The Massholes

**Deb4512** · 10-31-14 18:27

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**Ho Hunter 328** · 10-31-14 17:33

Originally Posted by PwHerman [View Original Post]

Yes I did make the original post, as a contributor, to inform the board that Jackie was back. That was all.

I want to clarify my previous post, I do find some of Ho's contributions helpful and informative but only when he is acting as a contributor. The second new pics of one of the GG / RT girls are added he becomes an advertiser as clearly shown in Yards post. It is a fine line and my guess is he has his reasons for walking it but I stand by my duck analogy.

I've posted pics here for two reasons. First, to share with this community. Second, to advertise my photography to other girls. There are girls who read this forum but never post, who've seen my work here and contacted me about doing shoots. My primary intent was not to advertise, which is why I never included contact information for the girls.

**Ho Hunter 328** · 10-31-14 17:14

Originally Posted by TDevil [View Original Post]

I agree, Jack to me is nothing more than an opportunistic advertiser pitching for girls that benefit him either with photo shoots or favors. At the very least I'm guessing he is nothing more than a glorified pimp. Most of the girls he pitches for are avid not recreational drug addicts with some serious problems. Perfect example Cassidy from Brockton. He stated he sees her on the regular which I know for a fact is impossible. At the time wrote it she was just released from a state funded vacation. She got out contacted him an all of a sudden he was seeing her on the regular for weeks? Impossible. He just pitched for her again and surprise surprise she's on holiday again. If her drug problem is not that bad and under control as he states why are there videos of her nodding off in a door way in broad daylight? Why is she down to 80 lbs soaking wet and how in gods name was she sectioned by the courts again within a couple of weeks of her being released. Most of all how is it possible that Jack sees her on the regular? All of what I just wrote is fact. Unfortunately, nothing of what Jack writes about these girls should be taken seriously in fact I would be very weary of any girl that works with Jack. He only pitches girls he benefits from. Period.

You of course conveniently neglected to mention that the reason she took a little vacation (she was only gone for a weekend) was because you called Uncle LEO on her.

**Ho Hunter 328** · 10-31-14 17:10

Originally Posted by Yardape08 [View Original Post]

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

If I had been running things, don't you think I still would be doing so? Nyx offered to give me the agency when she retired, but I declined. It's just not my thing. Consider that your sources were girls that Nyx had decided to not work with for one reason or another, and that they'd therefore have an axe to grind. I helped Nyx with a few things, gave advice when asked, but ultimately she ran the show.

**Yardape08** · 10-31-14 15:25

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [View Original Post]

True, but he doesn't hurt anybody here as far as I know anyway, and Jack's comments are often useful. And-eh, I think I remember seeing him posting a review or two, especially in Brockton street section. Did I?

He is in fact a pimp who frequently intimidated and bullied his girls and has been perpetuating a fraud here for quite some time. There are legions of posts going back several years that back this up. Now one could make the argument that they were his employees although I'm sure there were no contracts signed nor 1099's issued. Because he had Nyx as his foil there was a lot of rumpswabbery going on here. I used to point things out from time to time and they would follow a pattern of laying low afterwards until the storm passed. Silence often always speaks volumes.

**Nrlmus** · 10-31-14 14:55

Originally Posted by PwHerman [View Original Post]

Yes I did make the original post, as a contributor, to inform the board that Jackie was back. That was all.

I want to clarify my previous post, I do find some of Ho's contributions helpful and informative but only when he is acting as a contributor. The second new pics of one of the GG / RT girls are added he becomes an advertiser as clearly shown in Yards post. It is a fine line and my guess is he has his reasons for walking it but I stand by my duck analogy.

True, but he doesn't hurt anybody here as far as I know anyway, and Jack's comments are often useful. And-eh, I think I remember seeing him posting a review or two, especially in Brockton street section. Did I?

**TDevil** · 10-31-14 13:38

I agree, Jack to me is nothing more than an opportunistic advertiser pitching for girls that benefit him either with photo shoots or favors. At the very least I'm guessing he is nothing more than a glorified pimp. Most of the girls he pitches for are avid not recreational drug addicts with some serious problems. Perfect example Cassidy from Brockton. He stated he sees her on the regular which I know for a fact is impossible. At the time wrote it she was just released from a state funded vacation. She got out contacted him an all of a sudden he was seeing her on the regular for weeks? Impossible. He just pitched for her again and surprise surprise she's on holiday again. If her drug problem is not that bad and under control as he states why are there videos of her nodding off in a door way in broad daylight? Why is she down to 80 lbs soaking wet and how in gods name was she sectioned by the courts again within a couple of weeks of her being released. Most of all how is it possible that Jack sees her on the regular? All of what I just wrote is fact. Unfortunately, nothing of what Jack writes about these girls should be taken seriously in fact I would be very weary of any girl that works with Jack. He only pitches girls he benefits from. Period.

Originally Posted by Yardape08 [View Original Post]

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

**Member #4868** · 10-31-14 13:04

Originally Posted by SouthsideMike [View Original Post]

Not to offer a defense but if you recall you were the one who posted the inital find. I picked it up and threw the question out to him. Jack responded and elaborated about it. But at no time did he embellish about the topic. (And seeing Jacki WAS a mistake but I'm not going to begrudge Jack for that.) And when he did discuss it he was responding to inquires. As far as GG or RT I never use an agency. As Yardie indicated most of their employee's were a common sight on North Main after working their regular job. I think an intresting point about Jack's post's has been made though. For a Monger that gets out as much as he indicates you'd think he'd post more than best time to "cruise a location". Forum advertiser? Hmmm. Freya does come to mind. Since GG and RT have shut down I think he's become more a lurker than a contributer.

Yes I did make the original post, as a contributor, to inform the board that Jackie was back. That was all.

I want to clarify my previous post, I do find some of Ho's contributions helpful and informative but only when he is acting as a contributor. The second new pics of one of the GG / RT girls are added he becomes an advertiser as clearly shown in Yards post. It is a fine line and my guess is he has his reasons for walking it but I stand by my duck analogy.

**Member #5013** · 10-31-14 08:43

Originally Posted by Yardape08 [View Original Post]

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

It's nice to hear an honest opinion and not some bullshit whining of a monger sticking up for a provider he has goo goo eyes for because she was "disrespected".

I always enjoyed Ho's commentary but took it as biased opinions.

Thank you Yard. Your opinion and reviews are appreciated.

BB.

**Member #5037** · 10-31-14 08:34

Originally Posted by PwHerman [View Original Post]

Recent case in point would be Jackie. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

Not to offer a defense but if you recall you were the one who posted the inital find. I picked it up and threw the question out to him. Jack responded and elaborated about it. But at no time did he embellish about the topic. (And seeing Jacki WAS a mistake but I'm not going to begrudge Jack for that.) And when he did discuss it he was responding to inquires. As far as GG or RT I never use an agency. As Yardie indicated most of their employee's were a common sight on North Main after working their regular job. I think an intresting point about Jack's post's has been made though. For a Monger that gets out as much as he indicates you'd think he'd post more than best time to "cruise a location". Forum advertiser? Hmmm. Freya does come to mind. Since GG and RT have shut down I think he's become more a lurker than a contributer.

**Member #4868** · 10-30-14 22:59

Originally Posted by Yardape08 [View Original Post]

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

I have no comment on Yards assertions other than he is one of the most honest guys I know. I would like to say that I agree with him 100% in the fact that HH should not be considered a member but an advertiser. It really is simple math, he posts no reviews but readily posts girls pics who happen to be looking for dates. Recent case in point would be Jackie. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

**Yardape08** · 10-30-14 20:46

Originally Posted by HoHunter328 [View Original Post]

Not one of my employees, one of Nyx's, I just helped her out with a few things. Freya has been independent for at least a year now, we've always had a lot in common so we talk regularly.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

Originally Posted by Yellowfever023 [View Original Post]

HH, I thought Freya was on of your employees at Goddess GF's. Remember what Tony Montana said "don't get high on your own supply".

Originally Posted by HoHunter328 [View Original Post]

Primarily I have a handful of regulars that I rotate through depending on my mood, and their availability. Some I have posted about before, so there's really no sense in me reporting every time I see them (eg Shari, Julie, Cassidy, etc). A couple are well known and well reviewed already on the other site (eg Freya), and a couple are pretty much SB's and aren't interested in meeting anyone else. Once in a while I'll venture out to see what's new, or I'll stumble upon someone new in other ways. If it's someone I haven't seen mentioned, or my experience was different than what others have reported, then I'll mention it.

Other than that, there's the occasions where other activities may occur during a photoshoot, but I've already given my reasons for not reporting on those.

Maybe this is just my version of settling down in my old age.

Stay safe, and happy hunting.

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

**MeatMan** · 10-29-14 18:55

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [View Original Post]

Cool article. Can't relate to being Google executive or have my girlfriend dying on me in what seemingly younger age but where some things that did evoke an affirmative hum from me too.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/20/why_...t_prostitutes/

Great article.

**Yardape08** · 10-29-14 14:13

Originally Posted by PoppaBear77 [View Original Post]

I might agree with that statement, saying goodbye to fellow mongers who (hopefully) don't know you from Adam is lame in my book. Just give the heads up and be gone. I'm sure he's sorry he didn't give you the degree of detail you require but not everyone knows Q is the Dunks of AMP world, many may not know what Q is at all and if they do why not just call it Quincy so his post serves them even less. All I'm saying is its not cool to rag the guy cause he spooked out, at least he "try'd" to give a heads up. Thats more than a lot do! Or I might be wrong, rag the guy and all like him who think they are helping fellow mongers out. That makes a lot of sence in a place like this.

What's wrong with constructive criticism? It may enlighten others to be more forthcoming in their own future posts. The more opinions the better. Dialogue is what the forum is all about. You can't survive on this forum if you can't take a little criticism. So in my opinion it makes lots of "sense" to critique this guy notwithstanding that he could have just said nothing.