"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JoeBlowDC]

Ok fellas watch out for the kids / nigerians / whothe*uckever is doing an ewhoring campaign on SA. This last one got me with the *updates* to and pulling in the dead father angle. The second email was straight out of a porn movie.

Every vigilant boys, ever vigilant.

[DirtyDeeds38]

I mean its a trade off. A girl gets to potentially have insane sex, but nobody really wants to fuck them after they turn 40 (so there is a shelf life on how long they can fuck a hot guy). Except for those real housewife tv show girls and their lame husbands (and I don't know how they get it up for them, triple doses of V). A guy (myself as an example, or many guys on this site) can keep going and attracting top quality pussy at 60 and longer.

60 got here way too fast. So I,ll be grateful for the sex I do and will continue to get, as opposed to better(?) sex, but only untill I look older (and 40 isn't that old) and wrinkley. LOL.

Well I'm in my mid 40's and never had such an easy time bagging 20-somethings in all my life. And having some great sex. But I will say there is no way I can ever look at a 40 year old woman the same again. I don't care how hot she is. SB changed that forever. But women have their day in their 20's. So it's nature way of evening things out I suppose. And I intend to act on it. The best part? Many of these girls I've interacted with, actually desire me completely and want something more. I refuse to allow that to happen again, but it's refreshing knowing I'm not completely off limits due to my age, etc.

[HollywoodGuy]

This and Jez's post are sound advise. We think we will never tire of such intensity, but it will happen. And I think women who are made the orgasm this way, probably know it too, based on past experiences. This is why they end up with so many partners. For me, I guess I need to tap into my need for variety to get over this hump.

It has always fascinated me how some women can come from simply brushing their clit, some can come from three locations inside them, over and over, some can come from the clit and inside and others don't O at all. And how can it be fair that women can orgasm over and over, when we cum once and we have to recharge. Whoever said men need and want sex more then women do was a jokester on all of humanity. Women just hide it better.

I mean its a trade off. A girl gets to potentially have insane sex, but nobody really wants to fuck them after they turn 40 (so there is a shelf life on how long they can fuck a hot guy). Except for those real housewife tv show girls and their lame husbands (and I don't know how they get it up for them, triple doses of V). A guy (myself as an example, or many guys on this site) can keep going and attracting top quality pussy at 60 and longer.

60 got here way too fast. So I,ll be grateful for the sex I do and will continue to get, as opposed to better(?) sex, but only untill I look older (and 40 isn't that old) and wrinkley. LOL.

[DirtyDeeds38]

I have the best "fuck" from my MILF that usually comes 20 to 30 times in 45 minutes. I once had a civi girl that came every 5 minutes for as long as I fucked her. There is a girl on the cam site I watch that squirts every 5 to 10 strokes. But the best overall experience I have isn't necessarily tied to how many O's a girl has. My girl S is awesome and doesn't cum at all. And never has with anyone yet. But her hour long oral sessions have me smiling.

This and Jez's post are sound advise. We think we will never tire of such intensity, but it will happen. And I think women who are made the orgasm this way, probably know it too, based on past experiences. This is why they end up with so many partners. For me, I guess I need to tap into my need for variety to get over this hump.

It has always fascinated me how some women can come from simply brushing their clit, some can come from three locations inside them, over and over, some can come from the clit and inside and others don't O at all. And how can it be fair that women can orgasm over and over, when we cum once and we have to recharge. Whoever said men need and want sex more then women do was a jokester on all of humanity. Women just hide it better.

[HollywoodGuy]

I just don't get how some women can (very few but some) can literally have endless orgasms in such a powerful, sensual and sexual way and others you have to work your ass off just to get them to cum once. My last SB, was this slinky, submissive, sexual creature that must have come from another planet. The girl just permeates, "fuck me" in the most sexual way a woman could do. I have become addicted to this little hot thing and I don't want to be. And the only way I can think to break that addiction is to find another like her. But in my life having fucked about 150 different women, I've never found one even close. So what is a man to do? Just chalk it up to an experience, be thankful for it and ride on? Easier said then done.

I counted her orgasms during an all night sex escape and early morning too, she had 112 orgasms. She cums in seconds from any and all activity and she does it in a way that brings me back over and over. She drained me beyond anything I've had since I was probably 19 years old. I shot my load 7 times until the orgasms I was having actually became painful.

I guess I need one of you ole SD's with more experience to assure me, there will be another like her. Otherwise, I'm fucked, cause I won't drop her and will end up in another relationship.

I have the best "fuck" from my MILF that usually comes 20 to 30 times in 45 minutes. I once had a civi girl that came every 5 minutes for as long as I fucked her. There is a girl on the cam site I watch that squirts every 5 to 10 strokes. But the best overall experience I have isn't necessarily tied to how many O's a girl has. My girl S is awesome and doesn't cum at all. And never has with anyone yet. But her hour long oral sessions have me smiling.

[FredMoore]

I guess I need one of you ole SD's with more experience to assure me, there will be another like her. Otherwise, I'm fucked, cause I won't drop her and will end up in another relationship.

You WILL tire of her eventually, or at least desire variety. Just enjoy the ride and let nature take it's course. These unicorns only cum infrequently. Just don't over use her or you will tire of these all nighters. Maybe it is age but after I shoot my load and spend a few hours doing it I am ready to watch TV and grab some shut eye. Then again in the AM it is OK to hop on my woody and ride again.

[RedBaron69]

I just don't get how some women can (very few but some) can literally have endless orgasms in such a powerful, sensual and sexual way and others you have to work your ass off just to get them to cum once. My last SB, was this slinky, submissive, sexual creature that must have come from another planet. The girl just permeates, "fuck me" in the most sexual way a woman could do. I have become addicted to this little hot thing and I don't want to be. And the only way I can think to break that addiction is to find another like her. But in my life having fucked about 150 different women, I've never found one even close. So what is a man to do? Just chalk it up to an experience, be thankful for it and ride on? Easier said then done.

I counted her orgasms during an all night sex escape and early morning too, she had 112 orgasms. She cums in seconds from any and all activity and she does it in a way that brings me back over and over. She drained me beyond anything I've had since I was probably 19 years old. I shot my load 7 times until the orgasms I was having actually became painful.

I guess I need one of you ole SD's with more experience to assure me, there will be another like her. Otherwise, I'm fucked, cause I won't drop her and will end up in another relationship.

Brother, been there, It is an addiction at this point, the brain is producing dopamine in large quantities and has become addicted to it. Same addiction as with LSD or crack cocaine. I did some research on why I couldn't walk away and was doing stupid shit to stay with her. Thought I was going crazy but found out it was a chemical addiction. Going to be hard to give up even if you find another or want too. Been there. If you do get rid of her, I'll take a whack at her. Good luck.

[DirtyDeeds38]

I just don't get how some women can (very few but some) can literally have endless orgasms in such a powerful, sensual and sexual way and others you have to work your ass off just to get them to cum once. My last SB, was this slinky, submissive, sexual creature that must have come from another planet. The girl just permeates, "fuck me" in the most sexual way a woman could do. I have become addicted to this little hot thing and I don't want to be. And the only way I can think to break that addiction is to find another like her. But in my life having fucked about 150 different women, I've never found one even close. So what is a man to do? Just chalk it up to an experience, be thankful for it and ride on? Easier said then done.

I counted her orgasms during an all night sex escape and early morning too, she had 112 orgasms. She cums in seconds from any and all activity and she does it in a way that brings me back over and over. She drained me beyond anything I've had since I was probably 19 years old. I shot my load 7 times until the orgasms I was having actually became painful.

I guess I need one of you ole SD's with more experience to assure me, there will be another like her. Otherwise, I'm fucked, cause I won't drop her and will end up in another relationship.

[JZLizard]

For example here in Florida an example a prosecutor friend used to explain what could get you arrested was if you offered to buy a woman dinner in exchange for a BJ, you have just attempted to procure. It is the offer to exchange anything of value in exchange for sex.

Interesting. Well, at least it has the advantage of less traceability. You can do bitcoin transactions without ever exchanging real names. Also gives a way to hide actual transactions from SO for those that need to.

What made me think of this is I went to book a hotel online and were surprised to see that some of these places accept bitcoin now.

[HollywoodGuy]

So I got my princess down to about $$$ for this month and hopefully to more like $$ a month going forward. I have now been through the The 5 Stages of Loss and Grief. It has taken about 10 weeks. Not too bad after 18 months.

1. Denial and Isolation. At times I was just blissfully passing on the fact that our sex life was below average. Infatuation stage.

2. Anger. That girl is takin my money and not giving up the goods. We had a few mini breakups along the way.

3. Bargaining. Mostly with myself. "well my other girls more than make up for her". Which was true but not justifiable as far as accepting the fact that I was paying 1k a month allowance.

4. Depression. She is so perfect from afar, yet far from perfect. Oh what could have been. I thought she was my fantasy come true. My perfect little dream girl. I'll never find another.

5. Acceptance. No problem. At $$ a month I don't really care about the money, and I will still see her 2 - 3 times a month. Well worth it.

I still love being in her arms, I am just not unrealistic about our future. And I am actually happy we still talk everyday. She is exclusive to me and that does have a value. (just turned 21, beautiful face and 5'5' - 102) I never really get bored of touching her. I just wasn't getting to touch her enough. So its all about being balanced. And now it is.

[Beachesnole02]

I know this is a longshot, but anyone tried dealing with girls (SBs, pros whatever) in bitcoin? Also, since its not legal currency, trading bitcoin for "favors" would still be legal I assume?

For example here in Florida an example a prosecutor friend used to explain what could get you arrested was if you offered to buy a woman dinner in exchange for a BJ, you have just attempted to procure. It is the offer to exchange anything of value in exchange for sex.

[JZLizard]

I know this is a longshot, but anyone tried dealing with girls (SBs, pros whatever) in bitcoin? Also, since its not legal currency, trading bitcoin for "favors" would still be legal I assume?

[HollywoodGuy]

Many years ago I got involved with a company that did direct mail marketing (long before the internet). One of the things they did was to send various low volume mailings (2-3 thousand pieces ea.) with different messages to test for response percentage. They would decide on the mass mailing (100,000 to 1 M pieces) based on the test resuts. Sounds like you are employing the same techniques. A good example of sound scientific SB mining!

Actually it's what I have been doing for a living for the last 10 years. So yeah, it's the same process, different audience.

[VaSD1]

I have been sending my emotional intro letter to a targeted group that I feel might be offended by my direct P4P letter. After a positive response from a tiny MILF.

"I guess I'm not every girl, because I'm only looking for two things
Someone who's
1 - going to valet park every time and,
2 - really good at fucking me"

I sent my P4P letter next. Here is a response I got from that one.

"And just to be clear. I don't accept money for sex or anything like that. I have a job, friends, and a therapist, so I don't need your emotional support. If you email me I'll tell you all about the things my I like to do. ".

We"ll see where it goes from here.

Many years ago I got involved with a company that did direct mail marketing (long before the internet). One of the things they did was to send various low volume mailings (2-3 thousand pieces ea.) with different messages to test for response percentage. They would decide on the mass mailing (100,000 to 1 M pieces) based on the test resuts. Sounds like you are employing the same techniques. A good example of sound scientific SB mining!

[Dandy Don]

Ok, just finished up a month of SA. Handful of POTs but no dates yet.

But want to reinforce some things so others go forward with caution down this SB road.

1) First, on sending pics. I have only sent real pics to 3 women. I have sent fake pics and so some women and so far have never been question on it. But if you do send pics, make sure your location services on your phone is turned off. I had a SB send me a pic and google told me exactly where she lived.

2) Keep as much personal info to yourself. Reveal as little as possible. I recently emailed a POT who had only talked to a couple of times about a month ago. I get a message back saying this is her husband, don't contact her again. Spooked me a little but I never sent any identifying info.

3) No matter if she has a hot body, if she seems a little psycho, cut it off. I had set up a date with this SA girl. She was sexy, seemed normal at first, very nice body, willing to host. Promised an amazing experience. But then she would get a little snippy if I ddin't return her texts right away. So I explained to her if I didn't respond it was because I was at work, with family, or driving but I certainly wasn't ignoring her. I asked her politely to chill out and respect my limitations. She seemed a little apologetic and understanding and we scheduled a date. So on the day of the date we chat a little and I tell her I would be occupied up until 4 pm but I would contact when I got free. So, literally at 4:02 she is sending texts to me asking where the hell am I, that I must not be serious, and too forget it, and so on. I texted hey, I didn't mean 4 pm on the dot just around 4 pm but since she clearly doesn't get it and has already declared the date off, good luck to you. She continues to text me for the 2 hours, ranting.