Thread: Utr

**Hobby407** · 10-01-14 17:57

"Fetishes are welcomed, actually the are encouraged!

This was in her ad all I can say is be prepared if you like things spiced up a bit. Thank you again Ashley and I sure hope things look up for you.

**Otwist** · 10-01-14 15:49

Originally Posted by PythagorasHP [View Original Post]

Money talks and everyone has a price.

-Pyth.

There are some things I won't do for any amount of money and I am not the only one. Many have a price, but not everyone.

**JustJenna** · 10-01-14 15:17

Originally Posted by FarFromJaded [View Original Post]

Thanks for pointing that out to me, but I have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe the up charge is excessive! I personally just don't really love to kiss. Don't get me wrong, I have been told that the DFK Was great. But I just typically prefer to the spend the time doing things we both are equally interested in. The excellent skills you previously experienced are as good in a non-GFE, and the kissing is the ONLY thing you have to pay for! My friendly attitude and general demeanor is always that sweet, playful, sexy and attentive girl you've met! I am always non rushed, and love to cuddle / talk etc in any session I'm in. And I don't charge my regulars extra for a GFE session if they'd like it, so I think it ends up being semi fair for everyone. I'm totally worth it!

Back in the first few years of "Internet Hobbying", upselling for GFE was the norm. And even then, rates were much higher. However, at that time, there were no where near the amount of providers posting, and to be honest, if you wanted BBBJ then, you had to find a SW. Internet providers rarely openly offered GFE. This business is all about keeping up with the new trends. Ladies find out about the boards, and think, "If she can do it, I can too. " There is a lot of info that I will not post on these boards because, I've helped out way too many here in Orlando, and they were still careless. Without posting any names, one of the faves on this board has been offering BBFS with little to no upsell for years. Personally, I don't have a problem with kissing some of you guys, but others. I cringe at the thought that you may have enjoyed DATY or DATO with one of these BB providers, and others really just need to brush your yuck mouths.

**ProMonger1998** · 10-01-14 12:30

Hope she kept on those boots or those other shoes during your dream.

Originally Posted by GTrac [View Original Post]

I hooked up with my friend Nikki from NYC who is a thick Dominican with a great accent and gives great service. I pounded her nicely and after I showered she let me take some pics since she had just moved in.

**TungstenHP** · 10-01-14 10:41

Originally Posted by Otwist [View Original Post]

A lady that upcharges is always a deal breaker. A flat rate for her time is what prefer. She can do what she wants, but I would avoid her myself. Why would she do something she really does not like, even for an upcharge?

Money talks and everyone has a price.

-Pyth.

**FLAdventurer** · 10-01-14 09:04

Originally Posted by Otwist [View Original Post]

A lady that upcharges is always a deal breaker. A flat rate for her time is what prefer. She can do what she wants, but I would avoid her myself. Why would she do something she really does not like, even for an upcharge?

Maybe another way of looking at it is that she quotes the higher price for GFE and, if no kissing, then the lower price.

At the end of the day, her success or failure will be determined by the market. And she controls her plan and performance so it is really up to her.

**Otwist** · 10-01-14 08:38

Originally Posted by CflMonger48 [View Original Post]

Gentlemen, I have seen this fine woman long before she appeared on here. She was always a good time with excellent skills and always GFE. Now I see her ads and my how her rates have increased, not sure is worth the extra coin but YMMV. I certainly think that $50 - $80 upcharge for GFE is excessive. Come on, yiu have to pay her to kiss and be nice to you, what otherwise she will be all business like?? We should boycott the providers that think it is okay to charge extra to be GFE. Either you are or you are not but not she is not unless you pay her more. Just saying that is not right. Anyone else's thoughts on this matter?

Be safe out there.

A lady that upcharges is always a deal breaker. A flat rate for her time is what prefer. She can do what she wants, but I would avoid her myself. Why would she do something she really does not like, even for an upcharge?

**OliverOil** · 10-01-14 07:05

Originally Posted by Quilino [View Original Post]

Her website states she's back in Orlando for keeps. Definitely a top notch provider.

Nice safe neighborhood off of 436. Same sexy MILF as before, met me at door in thigh highs and short black skirt like this image. Had a great time and would repeat.

http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ay-49/11117832

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**GTrac** · 10-01-14 00:31

I hooked up with my friend Nikki from NYC who is a thick Dominican with a great accent and gives great service. I pounded her nicely and after I showered she let me take some pics since she had just moved in.

**Sillyolman** · 09-30-14 17:50

Originally Posted by Camera3 [View Original Post]

Jade,

First, I want to thank you for your post. You impress me with your reply which is a good explanation of the way you feel without getting overly dramatic about it. Second, a disclaimer, I am a guy that loves good old fashioned making out. Call me old school. Third, I really hate upselling. I just hate it and really don't get it. All that said, your post has me rethinking a few things. Oh, I still hate upselling, but at least you put it out there on the front end. I think I can accept that. I am not sure I will ever call you but, for now, I am on the fence about it. And your polite post is what has swayed me. That is saying something.

Now I have to go back and re-read your ads and figure some shit out. Damn it.

I do wish you well.

C3.

For some guys, kissing is part of the package. Part of the entire experience. Can I understand a woman wouldn't be enthused about passionately kissing a stranger? Of course. But, it is part of the intimacy that is having sex. Some people can separate and others want the whole experience. I applaud her for knowing and going after what she wants. However, if someone charges extra for something I feel is important then I tend to think our levels of importance aren't equal. Which means, the probability of me not fully enjoying the encounter goes up. I am finding it interesting that all the respondents who don't want kissing see no problem with the up charge. But then, why would they care. It doesn't effect them.

**MadisonGuy69** · 09-30-14 12:59

Originally Posted by CflMonger48 [View Original Post]

Gentlemen, I have seen this fine woman long before she appeared on here. She was always a good time with excellent skills and always GFE. Now I see her ads and my how her rates have increased, not sure is worth the extra coin but YMMV. I certainly think that $50 - $80 upcharge for GFE is excessive. Come on, yiu have to pay her to kiss and be nice to you, what otherwise she will be all business like?? We should boycott the providers that think it is okay to charge extra to be GFE. Either you are or you are not but not she is not unless you pay her more. Just saying that is not right. Anyone else's thoughts on this matter?

Be safe out there.

You must be really happy when you go to a car lot and they charge extra for navigation. It's a business I think they can do whatever they want. GFE is a mindset, true GFE would probably entail not kissing because if she was your girlfriend you'd probably be sick of her. Fortunately for me kissing is a turn off with a girl who was probably sucking some other dudes cock 15 min ago. I personally just want to get mine and get out, so paying for an all included would not work well for me. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, for a provider to automatically include everything at a set rate would never make much sense. I think it would make more sense to find one that is your cup of tea than try to have someone boycotted.

**Member #4697** · 09-30-14 11:56

Originally Posted by WhyMe50 [View Original Post]

I am posting this on behalf of DirtyToy. She has totally retired from the hobby and there is zero chance she will return. She is trying to make a life for herself but keeps getting calls and texts wanting to meet her. Please respect her privacy and if you do have her contact info please do not contact her. All of her contact info and past posts have been deleted so thanks for understanding. I know she will be missed but please respect her decision.

Why doesn't she just change her number? Obviously she is using the same number that's been plastered all over the internet in ads for her escort services. If she is trying to build a life she want want to desperate from that number. What happens when she goes for a job or is dating some guy or her kids or kids friends google her number and BOOM look at what they will see. And it will solve her problem as well.

KC.

**WhyMe50** · 09-30-14 10:42

I am posting this on behalf of DirtyToy. She has totally retired from the hobby and there is zero chance she will return. She is trying to make a life for herself but keeps getting calls and texts wanting to meet her. Please respect her privacy and if you do have her contact info please do not contact her. All of her contact info and past posts have been deleted so thanks for understanding. I know she will be missed but please respect her decision.

**RoccoJeremmy** · 09-29-14 12:24

Originally Posted by FarFromJaded [View Original Post]

Thanks for pointing that out to me, but I have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe the up charge is excessive! I personally just don't really love to kiss. Don't get me wrong, I have been told that the DFK Was great. But I just typically prefer to the spend the time doing things we both are equally interested in. The excellent skills you previously experienced are as good in a non-GFE, and the kissing is the ONLY thing you have to pay for! My friendly attitude and general demeanor is always that sweet, playful, sexy and attentive girl you've met! I am always non rushed, and love to cuddle / talk etc in any session I'm in. And I don't charge my regulars extra for a GFE session if they'd like it, so I think it ends up being semi fair for everyone. I'm totally worth it!

My personal opinion about DFK and extra coin, first I am very picky on that and most of the time I do prefer to pass on DFK but the ugly truth is that the provider does not go that far most of the time because that means that you are not her type or you have snow white and the 7 dwarfs dead in your mouth. Horny women love to kiss and no doubt about. I have DFK multiple times at the club with girls that I just met while dancing and even girl to girl at the club or music festivals and they are complete strangers. If a provider prefer to spend more time in BBBJ than a DFK, then no doubt that she is not into the pleasure, why?, there is higher risk to get a STD from BBBJCIM than good DFK. I good sweet kiss is the meaning that like each other and ask extra for that, no doubt that going to turn me off. My recommendation to you girl is that avoid mention that in your menu and keep it as your own preference. That is going to work against you and not in your favor. I do suggest to ask some extra for a Greek tour, golden shower or modeling. Make more sense to me.

**Member #4697** · 09-28-14 22:15

Originally Posted by FarFromJaded [View Original Post]

Thanks for pointing that out to me, but I have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe the up charge is excessive! I personally just don't really love to kiss. Don't get me wrong, I have been told that the DFK Was great. But I just typically prefer to the spend the time doing things we both are equally interested in. The excellent skills you previously experienced are as good in a non-GFE, and the kissing is the ONLY thing you have to pay for! My friendly attitude and general demeanor is always that sweet, playful, sexy and attentive girl you've met! I am always non rushed, and love to cuddle / talk etc in any session I'm in. And I don't charge my regulars extra for a GFE session if they'd like it, so I think it ends up being semi fair for everyone. I'm totally worth it!

I agree with you 100%. I don't mind kissing but it's not really my thing. If someone is adamant about wanting to kiss then an additional charge is fine by me if it's not a surprise. But I'm far more interested in other things mor than kissing.

KC.