"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Member #4727]

Is SA is being overrun by hookers, what the fuck. So I have been on SA for less than a month and these are the women I have chatted with.

Pot#1: A young AA who I chatted via text for a while. We agree to a M&G. The day before we are supposed to meet she asked me how much I was going to give her. I informed her that I don't pay just for showing up. After hearing that She wasn't interested. Thank god, I didn't waste my time.

Pot#2: I also got hit up by that 18 year old white girl, the one who is flaky. I won't give you the details but I also got the same lame ass story about how her former SD used to give her $500/ hr. Long story short I end up going to the FC with her about two weeks ago and no where near the $500. I guess she must have been desperate. Now she is texting me telling me how she needs money and asked for $500 again. I got her down to $$. 5. When I told her I would come pick her up she said she was with family and didn't want to make them mad by leaving. She agreed to fuck me in her car. I told her no thanks and told her this wasn't going to work. She begged but I didn't text for a day. We are on talking terms but this chick is total NANDo 1. However, after our last conversation I think she understands not to bull shit me. I'll keep her number in case the little guy needs some action but that is about as far as I'll go. She will be just an escort on my Rolodex. It's because of sites like this we won't let these dumb be*ches get away with insulting our intelligence.

Pot#3: Then I hear back from a 22 year old white girl. Very cute. She emailed me today at 9:20 PM. Says she wants to meet and says she can meet me tonight. I am always weary about anyone whose first email is "let's meet". I told her I could meet her at 10:00. She says she is already in the area and asks if I could meet her sooner. Are you fucking kidding me, you can't wait 30 min? Then she tells me she will bring her girlfriend along who also likes to please and asked for $600. At that point I said forget it. I told her she was just calling me because one of her JOhns was a no show and I wasn't interested.

What the hell! Why don't these bitches just stay on backpage and let those of us who want a real SB get on with our lives!

In the past week I've had a stripper and an escort hit me up off of SD4 me in RVA. So it's everywhere apparently.

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[FredMoore]

I have no trouble dating young girls. Its an endless stream. What about MILF's?. They don't seem to like me anywhere near as much. When I am face to face with them there is no problem. How do get in their face yet still pay $ ? The housewives types seem very GPS. But I am not attracted to anything less. Any advice from the brotherhood?

18-19 - 18 is a little harder but i have had plenty of 19 - they like me

20-22 - by far the easiest - they love me

23-28 - not a problem, they are just not as fresh - they love me

29-40 - total wipeout - they hate me

41+ - i want a super hot socal MILF - help - they laugh at me

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My take on it Hollywood is this age group is into the "clock ticking " mode and want to find either an IRL partner or a major SD. They need age appropriateness or Serious wealth, or both. 60 is too old to be a serious IRL partner for the younger 30 yr old and $100 is not enough to support the old girls in the style they want to get accustomed to.

The young girls are just out to get a few bucks and a few thrills, and you provide both. They are not seriously looking at you or any SD at this time of life as a permanent gig.

If you want to find a social MILF to squire around go on Zoosk or another dating site and get an IRL girl "friend" Who cares about sex anyway ? You've got this bevy of hotties to fuck all day long . Besides ,who wants to do a mercy fuck with a senior citizen ? LOL Bang your 20 yr old before picking up the 40 yr old . If you have a good time at the opera and don't get laid again who cares ?

[JZLizard]

I have no trouble dating young girls. Its an endless stream. What about MILF's?. They don't seem to like me anywhere near as much. When I am face to face with them there is no problem. How do get in their face yet still pay $ ? The housewives types seem very GPS. But I am not attracted to anything less. Any advice from the brotherhood?

My SB experience caps out around mid-late 20's, I could talk a lot about MILFs from my civy dating experience, but even they aren't the over-40 type, so I'm not sure it would help much if I did. To me a MILF is anyone over 30 who has given birth, and over 40 they are into cougar territory for me (even if they aren't necessarily seeking younger cubs, I still consider them cougars). Some of my best sexual experiences have been with single moms between 30-35. I think beyond 35, or certainly over 40, they are driven less by hormones and more by other motivating factors, which can make them more complicated targets than are worth dealing with. I would love nothing more than a romp with Kelly Ripa but I don't see a lot of over-40 women that give me a swelling in my zipper zone. I bet there are some hot ones there in L. A. , but the problem is that if they are still hot at 40+ it means they were super-stunners when they were 18-30, and this means that they have been spoiled into GPS perpetuity, and in my mind are mostly damaged goods.

When my SD profile was active, I used to get hit up a lot from these cougars, some reasonably close by and also some from NYC / LA / Miami areas that were looking to branch out. Some of them were quite hot, and most of them indicated looking for something much more than just money for sex in their initial mail (I. E. They want a rich boyfriend basically, complete with the tolerance for all their pre-menopausal mood swings).

I always wanted to write back and say "look you're not a bad looking broad at all, and in the civy world I'd probably give you a roll in the hay but do you know what the "be" in "SB" means? Hint -- it implies youth".

But that's just me. And no I never did that, as I am not a fan of stirring up shit or pissing people off needlessly.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have no trouble dating young girls. Its an endless stream. What about MILF's?. They don't seem to like me anywhere near as much. When I am face to face with them there is no problem. How do get in their face yet still pay $ ? The housewives types seem very GPS. But I am not attracted to anything less. Any advice from the brotherhood?

18-19 - 18 is a little harder but i have had plenty of 19 - they like me

20-22 - by far the easiest - they love me

23-28 - not a problem, they are just not as fresh - they love me

29-40 - total wipeout - they hate me

41+ - i want a super hot socal MILF - help - they laugh at me

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My current lineup - all regulars

20 - my special princess - over a year
21 - native american freak - new
23 - unnamed - 2 years
24 - jamaican princess - 7 dates so far
28 - my new SB - awesome
47 - PSE MILF - 3 years and going strong

[JZLizard]

Is SA is being overrun by hookers, what the fuck. So I have been on SA for less than a month and these are the women I have chatted with.
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What the hell! Why don't these bitches just stay on backpage and let those of us who want a real SB get on with our lives!

It's one of the perils of the hobby. Yes they are everywhere. It's one of my peeves as well.

Finding real SBs can be a lot of hard work, reminds me a lot of regular dating in that regard.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Just a follow up report to my question about the SB who wanted to bring a friend. I said no, and generously copied some of the great reasons posted here as to discretion and safety. Total silence from her ever since. Interestingly, she has told me that she was fed up with the search for a SD and I was her last hope, and that she was giving up after me. Of course, she is now on a new site and active. Glad I went with my instincts and the good advice from this board. It's been dry around here, so nothing else to report. My last 10 emails on sugardaddie have gone unopened!

Norm!

Norm: that is wise decision. Many of these SB who want to bring a friend are robbers. One is waiting outside or will try to figure out a way that she want to leave early. Take money and leave. You can see silence once you stayed no. Someone reported 1 SB with her friend in NC who was cheating SDs and got caught. I think it was reported a month or so back. Same story.

[Norm Gerd]

Just a follow up report to my question about the SB who wanted to bring a friend. I said no, and generously copied some of the great reasons posted here as to discretion and safety. Total silence from her ever since. Interestingly, she has told me that she was fed up with the search for a SD and I was her last hope, and that she was giving up after me. Of course, she is now on a new site and active. Glad I went with my instincts and the good advice from this board. It's been dry around here, so nothing else to report. My last 10 emails on sugardaddie have gone unopened!

Norm!

[Dandy Don]

"See who pays up". This is 2014 and we have DNA testing LOL. A test is way cheaper than "paying up" so that shouldn't even be an issue.

I get what you are saying, but you got to think like an 18-21 year old girl. Of course you can ultimately prove that the child isn't yours, but I would prefer to lessen my chances of getting to the point tests and or lawyers are involved.

[Ltnric]

Is SA is being overrun by hookers, what the fuck. So I have been on SA for less than a month and these are the women I have chatted with.

Pot#1: A young AA who I chatted via text for a while. We agree to a M&G. The day before we are supposed to meet she asked me how much I was going to give her. I informed her that I don't pay just for showing up. After hearing that She wasn't interested. Thank god, I didn't waste my time.

Pot#2: I also got hit up by that 18 year old white girl, the one who is flaky. I won't give you the details but I also got the same lame ass story about how her former SD used to give her $500/ hr. Long story short I end up going to the FC with her about two weeks ago and no where near the $500. I guess she must have been desperate. Now she is texting me telling me how she needs money and asked for $500 again. I got her down to $$. 5. When I told her I would come pick her up she said she was with family and didn't want to make them mad by leaving. She agreed to fuck me in her car. I told her no thanks and told her this wasn't going to work. She begged but I didn't text for a day. We are on talking terms but this chick is total NANDo 1. However, after our last conversation I think she understands not to bull shit me. I'll keep her number in case the little guy needs some action but that is about as far as I'll go. She will be just an escort on my Rolodex. It's because of sites like this we won't let these dumb be*ches get away with insulting our intelligence.

Pot#3: Then I hear back from a 22 year old white girl. Very cute. She emailed me today at 9:20 PM. Says she wants to meet and says she can meet me tonight. I am always weary about anyone whose first email is "let's meet". I told her I could meet her at 10:00. She says she is already in the area and asks if I could meet her sooner. Are you fucking kidding me, you can't wait 30 min? Then she tells me she will bring her girlfriend along who also likes to please and asked for $600. At that point I said forget it. I told her she was just calling me because one of her JOhns was a no show and I wasn't interested.

What the hell! Why don't these bitches just stay on backpage and let those of us who want a real SB get on with our lives!

[FeelGoodMd]

So I am on SA and this chick just randomly reached out to me asking if I wanted to come over. She was a little too explicit but I told her that I don't so money for sex. She wants me to come over tonight. I don't think LEO is on SA and if they were they contacted me first and that's intrapment. Does anyone have any info on this chick. I googled her phone number with no results.

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Stay away! See my posts #6658 and 6718. After the second post we actually set up a time to meet on July 11. Story short, she was over an hour late to the hotel (after I had told her I had a very limited time to visit) and I left without meeting her. The days leading up to the meet she was constantly pestering me about how much the gift would be (remember, she said she expected $500 an hour, which her last daddy had allegedly given her, with more for extras). I reminded her through text that in our earlier conversation I had said my usual gift was $ - $$ depending on how our time went. She texted me repeatedly saying how badly she needed help, and some of the bills / expenses she needed help with.

After I left I texted her I was gone, and she said she was just arriving at the hotel and had driven all the way from the Tri-Cities (I have no idea whether this was true or not, but I suspect it was intended to generate sympathy and a change of heart either way). I pointed out that apparently we were both going to have a wasted evening, and she replied that "maybe we can try again soon. " I wrote back "maybe," and that was the last I heard from her.

Until about an hour ago, when she asked me whether I was free tomorrow! I told her this week was bad, which is true, but I would get back in touch with my schedule cleared up (on the "never burn bridges" principle). That is not going to happen, however.

This doctor's diagnosis is acute Nando 1 syndrome. I don't think she is LE, but it wouldn't surprise me if she is UTR. I think I got off cheap with a wasted $50 hotel room and a wasted hour.

[Bill Cullen]

Yes, I agree. We all gone through same emotions, experience. Mention your city. And you will see PMs. Good to share such profiles with others in that city.

I travel so I hobby in many areas. She's in the Western, VA area near Roanoke.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Let it go Bill other than to list your location State / City wise and offer to PM anyone who responds in your area. You could report her to the site Admins you are on. I'm not sure how effective the blacklisting is, but I doubt it works. Think about it? If any screwed up SB could get you off the site because she only had one orgasm they would not make much money.

Keep trying. There will be the good with the bad.

Yes, I agree. We all gone through same emotions, experience. Mention your city. And you will see PMs. Good to share such profiles with others in that city.

[FredMoore]

Hi all. Been in the hobby for almost a year now, and been reading this board for about a month. I've managed to go back about 25 pages and have learned much in the past month. I wish I knew of this board a few months ago before I met the Devil, who came to me in the form of a stunning tall redhead.


Anyway, I've run across some "bad sugar daddy" sites & blogs, but I have never run across a "bad sugar baby" site. Does anyone know of one where we can out these thieves and (hopefully) keep others from the same fate? Is this a good forum to give details? If so, are there guidelines? Do I post her name and / or other personal info? Pictures?

Her current venue of choice is SDFM, but she's been on all of them, and I know for a fact she scams country-wide. Any suggestions to keep others from getting hosed like I did?

Let it go Bill other than to list your location State / City wise and offer to PM anyone who responds in your area. You could report her to the site Admins you are on. I'm not sure how effective the blacklisting is, but I doubt it works. Think about it? If any screwed up SB could get you off the site because she only had one orgasm they would not make much money.

Keep trying. There will be the good with the bad.

[HollywoodGuy]

As I am planning to reenter the Sugar bowl, but hadn't yet done so, out of the blue I get a text from a girl I had communicated for sometime with from SA. We both went silent for over two months and then bam, last night she texts me. She tells me I was one of the guys she was really hoping to meet. Girl is 27,5'7" blonde with a light reddish tint, cover girl, model face and a solid 8/9 body. Her car is broke down and her cell is ready to be turned off. Jackpot! We agree to meet and originally planned on a night out for getting to know each other. She brought up allowance through text and I explained to her, that I am willing to pay for date expenses, but no allowances until we visit the FC. I explained how this shows me she is genuine and not a girl who just hits a date, get paid and runs. She said she is looking for $$ per visit. I agree. From here, she suggests just getting a room, having dinner there and seeing how things go.

So swing into Winston and pick her up. She is wearing a black dress and every guy in her parking lot is staring her down as I drive up. Legs for centuries, petite, heels, and looking like she just stepped off a runway!

We make it to the hotel and have dinner and drinks. Lots of very good conversation! This girl has some great life experience and can hold her own with a meaningful conversation. By her body language and smiles, I knew we would be back to the room in no time.

Up the room, I was planning on more talk, but she sits down next to me, and begins some amazing DFK. She starts rubbing my leg etc. I pull her up and push her back onto the bed and take off all her clothes. We DFK as I work my way down to an amazing, tight little pink box, fresh, not even a scent it was so fresh and went to work. Brought her to two big O's, then she jumps up and says, "my turn to have some fun" and she rips off my pants and goes right into a BBBJ, with so many techniques. It would rank right up there in a top ten BBBJ of all time. She brought me right to the edge several times and then backed off. My cock was seriously throbbing. I finally asked her to fuck and she climbed on top. She worked it in slow, closed her eyes and rotated and grinded her hips slowly in a way that felt like she was still sucking me. I could feel her pussy get wet and wetter and wetter until her juices were running down my cock onto my thighs. She was still quiet, but then her moth opened and she starts quivering and lets out a big moan and she came again. Very nice! I push her off me onto her back and began finger fucking her pussy and she arches her back and starts cumming. She came twice more from serious hard Gspot finger rubbing, but then before she reached a third, she grabbed my cock and said, I want us to cum together, this last time. She had me finger her gspot as she stroked me until just before she was ready to cum again, then she put my cock inside her. I fucker her fast and furious and she bucked those hips and we both came at the same time.

VERY NICE!

I'll be seeing her again. My gut, she is q quite UTR, very selective who she sees. And for me that was fine.

Dinner $ Hotel $ allowance for her $ $ $ Total $ $ $ $ $ for the night. For me it was worth it.

A selective UTR. I like those. You really can't expect to go NP first timer every time. I would call my new SB a selective UTR if I want to be totally honest. And at $ a date why would I care. Let some other guy foot the bills. Not knockin yr $$$ date. And I get rooms sometimes. I just have to realize the L. A. Scene is totally different. It is the girl capital of the USA.

[Bill Cullen]

Hi all. Been in the hobby for almost a year now, and been reading this board for about a month. I've managed to go back about 25 pages and have learned much in the past month. I wish I knew of this board a few months ago before I met the Devil, who came to me in the form of a stunning tall redhead.

Without going into great detail (I'm sure you guys have heard it all or lived it) she took me for a month's allowance and split. The way she did it was pure evil, right down to her one-text excuse to end it which I just can't fathom that anyone would tempt their own fate with.

I fell hook, line, & sinker for her and I'm a very dangerous combination of pissed, embarrassed & hurt. Right now I've got revenge on my mind, but am a rational thinker and don't doubt that being rational will win out. I confided in a good friend who very succinctly said "You've met the devil, lived to tell about it, it only cost you $400, and now you want to go back and poke him?

Anyway, I've run across some "bad sugar daddy" sites & blogs, but I have never run across a "bad sugar baby" site. Does anyone know of one where we can out these thieves and (hopefully) keep others from the same fate? Is this a good forum to give details? If so, are there guidelines? Do I post her name and / or other personal info? Pictures?

Her current venue of choice is SDFM, but she's been on all of them, and I know for a fact she scams country-wide. Any suggestions to keep others from getting hosed like I did?