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  1. #2298
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    Posts: 1982

    Here's the full article

    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn  [View Original Post]
    There have been posts a plenty about how the Washington DC market and NOVA is particular are high priced, particularly in terms of their services, however this week The Economist magazine, although they refer to themselves as a newspaper, did a tremendous cover story about the business of sex and how the Internet is an industry disrupt or making it easier and safer to work in the world's oldest profession.

    The first eye opener is that, adjusting for inflation, we should be paying $395 for full service.

    Although they did not mention it by name, I'm pretty sure the frequented The othER board for much of their research.

    They also calculated the premium paid / earned for thinks like two girls, spanking or anal.

    All told we may not have it so bad, but having mongered in Argentina, Singapore and Venezuela, I love getting at least a good half hour of more for under $100.

    What a great time for a British mongered to be caught by his wife only to tell her" But lovie, I'm doing research for The Economist!
    http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...bang-your-buck

    They make some interesting points but I'm always skeptical of analyses that say what prices "should" be when adjusted for inflation. The problem with those kinds of statements is they usually use an assumption that all prices go up in a linear fashion at the general rate of inflation. Since that obviously isn't true with the hobby, there must be other factors at play. If you read further in the article it's clear that one of those factors is that supply has gone up and in some cases demand has gone down. Countries which have had economic downturns have seen an increase in new providers who start in the hobby to make extra money or because they lost their regular job. Clients who have less disposable income have also either cut down on their hobbying or are seeking out lower cost options. And the existence of the internet just makes it easier for both provider and client to find what suits their needs.

    IMHO, the problem in the DMV region is that our government-centric economy is more resistant to the kinds of economic pressures that affect other areas. Providers have figured this out and they come here and charge higher prices than they would elsewhere. Horny mongers with more $ than sense fuel the problem by paying whatever is asked because they have the resources and don't have time (or inclination) to do proper homework.

    But, unless you move to another area or have the ability to take hobby-trips, that's the market we live in and we just have to suck it up and do the best we can.

  2. #2297

    The Economist reports on mongering and we come out looking OK

    There have been posts a plenty about how the Washington DC market and NOVA is particular are high priced, particularly in terms of their services, however this week The Economist magazine, although they refer to themselves as a newspaper, did a tremendous cover story about the business of sex and how the Internet is an industry disrupt or making it easier and safer to work in the world's oldest profession.

    The first eye opener is that, adjusting for inflation, we should be paying $395 for full service.

    Although they did not mention it by name, I'm pretty sure the frequented The othER board for much of their research.

    They also calculated the premium paid / earned for thinks like two girls, spanking or anal.

    All told we may not have it so bad, but having mongered in Argentina, Singapore and Venezuela, I love getting at least a good half hour of more for under $100.

    What a great time for a British mongered to be caught by his wife only to tell her" But lovie, I'm doing research for The Economist!

  3. #2296
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Point of clarification

    Quote Originally Posted by TaeKwonV  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the responses. I agree with everything you said. However, my options are very limited due to the fact that I'm unable to provide employment info and therefore get screened. The floodgates will remain locked unless a senior member is feeling generous and get me a reference somehow. Happy hunting guys and stay safe, I will stick to AMPs for now.
    Nothing I wrote was intended to steer you toward the higher priced agencies which require employment info for screening purposes. F*ck that! I refuse to provide that kind of personal info and I don't give any of those outfits my business.

    But that doesn't mean the gates are locked, quite the opposite. There are a ton of independent providers out there who have no (or minimal) screening requirements and many of them have been reviewed both in this forum and on the oThER site. That's the field in which you should be plowing. If you want to set your sights a little higher (and pricier) then look on Eros but again steer clear of the agency girls and stick with the independents. Many of the good ones proudly post links to their reviews or will tell you their review number if you ask. So use AMPs as your backup plan, but don't be afraid to do the homework and branch out.

    And I think we've said enough about outcall. I never have a provider come to me because it puts me at too much of a disadvantage. I always want to have the option of walking away from any transaction without any drama.

  4. #2295
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    You got taken to the cleaners, my friend! If you want to continue in this hobby you need to do a lot more homework. Just like a carpenter measures twice, cuts once, you need to RTFF a lot before you make any more moves.

    One of the things you would have found in the forum is how dicey a proposition an outcall (to your place) is. I've written time and again that an outcall gives all the advantage and power to the provider or agency. Had you visited the provider you would have been able to walk when you saw that she didn't look like her pics. And if she asked for a cancellation fee, you could have simply said no and walked away. When they come to you, they can cause a scene that makes things embarrasing for you so that puts the pressure on you.

    Also, don't try to run before you can walk. You're going to make some mistakes so don't make them with the highest priced girls out there. Look for recommendations made in the forum by members who post field reports. Take the time to write a review for the oThER site (PM me if you don't know what that is) and then search for well-reviewed providers in your area.

    This hobby isn't rocket science, it just takes some basic homework and a little chutzpah.
    Thanks for the responses. I agree with everything you said. However, my options are very limited due to the fact that I'm unable to provide employment info and therefore get screened. The floodgates will remain locked unless a senior member is feeling generous and get me a reference somehow. Happy hunting guys and stay safe, I will stick to AMPs for now.

  5. #2294

    My Condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by TaeKwonV  [View Original Post]
    I keep using poor judgement despite seeing red flags for escort services. I was intrigued by Julie on dreamescortdc so decided to make an appointment. Nina had some terrible mixed and fake reviews but Julie had positives and possibly fake. She looked smoking hot on her pics and while I expected a fair amount of airbrushing etc. I thought that due to their high prices the girls in the pictures were real.

    Boy was I wrong, she looked nothing like her picture. Caked on makeup revealed some bad skin, she looked to be at least 25 lbs heavier, and her face just didn't look right. An agency rep was with her and swiped my cc and even though I only wanted an hour for $3 I was told it was a 2 hr minimum for $5 Additionally Julie made up some bs that she works on tips and wanted an additional $3 I talked her down to $$ since she said I was "good looking and nice". I saw both of these come up in some oThER reviews but it was mostly for the other girl Nina. So basically I coughed up $7 for a really unattractive girl. In hindsight I should have just paid $$ and told her to leave and save myself some money. She was friendly at least but wanted to talk too much. When we got down to business I could not manage to stay erect because I was not attracted at all to her. To her credit she did give an effort but after awhile I told her its not going to happen tonight.

    I don't think I'm cut out for this hobby nor can I afford it and this rate. Anyway thanks for reading and stay away from dreamescortdc.
    I wasn't following your price point notes at first, so looked up this agency, and was shocked! $$$$$ and $$ tip for $$$$$$$ and you didn't like her. Ugh. You're playing outside of my league at those price points, but say I just won a big lottery payout and wanted to play with an advertised goddess for 2-hr at that price point, she had better be a goddess in person per my optic. Damn near perfect spinner and GFE++++ for me! Try some less expensive options and stretch your funds out a bit for more fun. And unless you are at a hotel checking out the next morning (could still be a problem given you likely registered and paid for your hotel under your real name vice your monger name. Another point. Don't use your real name, use a monger name. I am guessing none of these gals use their real name so its all good), I would not recommend out-call, but opinions vary on this and everyone has different considerations to factor what works best for them. Always learning .

    BTW their ad does show "$$$ for 1-hr out-call to your upscale hotel or residence" - so for them to say there is a 2-hr minimum was BS! Not that I ever plan to do business with them... but hope others do not as well after your experience.
    Last edited by Member #4911; 07-26-14 at 11:47. Reason: it messed up my $$$$$

  6. #2293
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Ouch

    Quote Originally Posted by TaeKwonV  [View Original Post]
    I keep using poor judgement despite seeing red flags for escort services. I was intrigued by Julie on dreamescortdc so decided to make an appointment. Nina had some terrible mixed and fake reviews but Julie had positives and possibly fake. She looked smoking hot on her pics and while I expected a fair amount of airbrushing etc. I thought that due to their high prices the girls in the pictures were real.

    Boy was I wrong, she looked nothing like her picture. Caked on makeup revealed some bad skin, she looked to be at least 25 lbs heavier, and her face just didn't look right. An agency rep was with her and swiped my cc and even though I only wanted an hour for $3 I was told it was a 2 hr minimum for $5 Additionally Julie made up some bs that she works on tips and wanted an additional $3 I talked her down to $$ since she said I was "good looking and nice". I saw both of these come up in some oThER reviews but it was mostly for the other girl Nina. So basically I coughed up $7 for a really unattractive girl. In hindsight I should have just paid $$ and told her to leave and save myself some money. She was friendly at least but wanted to talk too much. When we got down to business I could not manage to stay erect because I was not attracted at all to her. To her credit she did give an effort but after awhile I told her its not going to happen tonight.

    I don't think I'm cut out for this hobby nor can I afford it and this rate. Anyway thanks for reading and stay away from dreamescortdc.
    You got taken to the cleaners, my friend! If you want to continue in this hobby you need to do a lot more homework. Just like a carpenter measures twice, cuts once, you need to RTFF a lot before you make any more moves.

    One of the things you would have found in the forum is how dicey a proposition an outcall (to your place) is. I've written time and again that an outcall gives all the advantage and power to the provider or agency. Had you visited the provider you would have been able to walk when you saw that she didn't look like her pics. And if she asked for a cancellation fee, you could have simply said no and walked away. When they come to you, they can cause a scene that makes things embarrasing for you so that puts the pressure on you.

    Also, don't try to run before you can walk. You're going to make some mistakes so don't make them with the highest priced girls out there. Look for recommendations made in the forum by members who post field reports. Take the time to write a review for the oThER site (PM me if you don't know what that is) and then search for well-reviewed providers in your area.

    This hobby isn't rocket science, it just takes some basic homework and a little chutzpah.

  7. #2292

    Dreamescortdc, big mistake

    I keep using poor judgement despite seeing red flags for escort services. I was intrigued by Julie on dreamescortdc so decided to make an appointment. Nina had some terrible mixed and fake reviews but Julie had positives and possibly fake. She looked smoking hot on her pics and while I expected a fair amount of airbrushing etc. I thought that due to their high prices the girls in the pictures were real.

    Boy was I wrong, she looked nothing like her picture. Caked on makeup revealed some bad skin, she looked to be at least 25 lbs heavier, and her face just didn't look right. An agency rep was with her and swiped my cc and even though I only wanted an hour for $3 I was told it was a 2 hr minimum for $5 Additionally Julie made up some bs that she works on tips and wanted an additional $3 I talked her down to $$ since she said I was "good looking and nice". I saw both of these come up in some oThER reviews but it was mostly for the other girl Nina. So basically I coughed up $7 for a really unattractive girl. In hindsight I should have just paid $$ and told her to leave and save myself some money. She was friendly at least but wanted to talk too much. When we got down to business I could not manage to stay erect because I was not attracted at all to her. To her credit she did give an effort but after awhile I told her its not going to happen tonight.

    I don't think I'm cut out for this hobby nor can I afford it and this rate. Anyway thanks for reading and stay away from dreamescortdc.

  8. #2291
    Quote Originally Posted by AJohn  [View Original Post]
    AJ,

    Thats one hot Chiquita mama. Can you pm me number and damages and menu please.

    PC out.

  9. #2290

    Wish I lived in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Capricaone  [View Original Post]
    I use to think of this girl as a sugar baby but it turns out she's more of a UTR because she's been seeing folks off of CL. Anyone interested in meeting her? Not the best but not bad either. If you don't have any history of posting here, don't bother PMing me.
    She is cute I wish I lived in your area. I lived in Little Creek for a few moths about 13 years ago.

  10. #2289

    My 2 cents

    "pretty much".

    Quote Originally Posted by Goheat  [View Original Post]
    BBBJCIMPM?

    What's CIMPM?

  11. #2288

    Dominican Brenda

    Well she coming back, she also has new phone PM for #

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  12. #2287
    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    Booked an hour with "Barbara" at a reliable K-agency. Pretty face, smashing body, but as great as her physical gifts are, her heart was equally cold. She made as little physical and eye contact as possible, seemed bored and mechanical. Responded to my conversational efforts by laughing. After a quick shower, I tried caressing her gently and slowly to see if I could warm her up, but it didn't work. Went to touch her face, she ducked away: "Makeup. " Brushed my lips gently against hers, no response.

    I fell back on the bed covering my face with my hands, realizing I would get zero affection from this provider. I said, "I can't do it," and bailed. Fortunately I had not handed the envelope to her at the start, it was still in my shirt pocket. As I left I dropped $ on the table in the entry, if for no other reason to show good faith towards the agency, which has rarely disappointed me this way in the past. I was there only about 15 minutes. We didn't say a word to each other as I left. I felt disturbed and upset.

    Back in my car I called the booker, with whom I have long had good relations, and explained why I left. She was sympathetic, said some girls just don't have warmth, indicated this provider has gotten mixed feedback. She thanked me genuinely for leaving $, and seemed to agree this was not my fault. It was a nice conversation and I'm glad I didn't burn any bridges with this agency.

    What next? It's been a couple of years since I tried a Chinese provider, but I had the number of a nearby Chinese condo, and I still had enough to cover the $. 6 tariff. So I made a quick call and off I went.

    "KeKe" met me cheerfully in the garage and we rode the elevator together up to the dingy apt. She said she was 28 but looked around 40, body a bit thick but decent. I well know that the service you get is usually commensurate with the price, so I went in with lowered expectations. It turned out just about how I expected. I asked her for water, she had no glass and gave it to me in a bowl! No DFK, nixed back door play and FIV, gave CBJ and covered missionary to completion. What made it tolerable was that she was affectionate and seemed to genuinely enjoy herself, which was such a relief that I accepted half a loaf gladly. She doesn't speak English and I don't speak Chinese, so we were reduced to using the translation program on her phone to communicate. She asked me to come back again. There was no pressure to leave but since we couldn't really talk there was no point in prolonging the visit. I was out of there in about forty minutes.

    You can't always hit a home run in this hobby. Today I barely eked out a single.
    You actually left a Benji cause of your relationship with the Agency? Ambi, WTF dude I woulda left 20 and said nothing. Your booker woulda not said a single word to you as well. I'm sure this was a $$$ K Agency or 260.

    With the Chinese gals, its all work for the most part for them. They have bills to pay and LV bags to buy so in most cases YMMV. Of course in Socal, they all become my gfs for the hour or 2. No where in NOVA can you get 2 hours and MSOG with a decent looking MILF for 100 dolla. Yes that's my rate 100 dolla inc house fee.

    PC out.

  13. #2286

    Update

    I'm having my friend (who's much better in Korean than I) try calling and emailing the K-agencies. I'm hoping he'll get the special ethnocentric treatment since most Koreans are racist bastards LOL. I doubt he'll be successful but its worth a shot. On another note I think I just got past screening on paradise hotties. I'm thinking about booking Nina. Have any of you guys had any experiences with this place. And will I be able to use this as a reference for future places. Thanks.

  14. #2285

    First Time Poster

    Hi everyone, first time poster. I'm Korean and 31 yrs old atm. My friend recently introduced me to the world of AMP's. I must have lucked out the first few times as I managed to get cute, younger looking girls (23 ish). I was only half expecting a HE offer at the time but got FS instead. It blew my mind and I've been hooked ever since. This was in NY and I've quickly realized that I'm not going to be able to duplicate the experience here in NoVA where the majority of providers resemble my aunts and mom, gahhh! The one time I gave in and tried a more mature looking lady, didn't seem into it and did not take me seriously at all. Maybe I reminded her of her dickhead son? I don't know.

    I want to take the next step and visit an escort but as some of you have described, there seems to be a huge barrier to get in one of the K agencies. I've tried contacting TopLuminous, but haven't gotten a response nor do I expect one. If it weren't too risky, I'd give my employment info in a heart beat but my only option is to try and get references where I can and become a respected member on this board. I know it will take time but I wanted to just ask if any of you senior members are feeling generous and would be willing to put me on the fast track. If anyone shoots me a PM to get a private number of a bookie, I will be eternally grateful and repay the debt 3 x. I'll contribute to the forums whenever I can. In some of your guys' reviews you mention the language barrier and how you have nothing to talk about, maybe I can help there? At the very least I can give you guys some insight on Korean culture and latest trends. Kgirls do nothing but watch dramas and variety shows on their free time, you'll be sure to get some laughs and a smile if you mention some of them! Or you could always just shout out random phrases like Daebak ("Day-bach" awesome) to feel a little more comfortable.

    Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope to hear from you guys soon. I understand if I get flamed for asking for help on my first post but its worth a shot.

  15. #2284

    An Off Day

    Booked an hour with "Barbara" at a reliable K-agency. Pretty face, smashing body, but as great as her physical gifts are, her heart was equally cold. She made as little physical and eye contact as possible, seemed bored and mechanical. Responded to my conversational efforts by laughing. After a quick shower, I tried caressing her gently and slowly to see if I could warm her up, but it didn't work. Went to touch her face, she ducked away: "Makeup. " Brushed my lips gently against hers, no response.

    I fell back on the bed covering my face with my hands, realizing I would get zero affection from this provider. I said, "I can't do it," and bailed. Fortunately I had not handed the envelope to her at the start, it was still in my shirt pocket. As I left I dropped $ on the table in the entry, if for no other reason to show good faith towards the agency, which has rarely disappointed me this way in the past. I was there only about 15 minutes. We didn't say a word to each other as I left. I felt disturbed and upset.

    Back in my car I called the booker, with whom I have long had good relations, and explained why I left. She was sympathetic, said some girls just don't have warmth, indicated this provider has gotten mixed feedback. She thanked me genuinely for leaving $, and seemed to agree this was not my fault. It was a nice conversation and I'm glad I didn't burn any bridges with this agency.

    What next? It's been a couple of years since I tried a Chinese provider, but I had the number of a nearby Chinese condo, and I still had enough to cover the $. 6 tariff. So I made a quick call and off I went.

    "KeKe" met me cheerfully in the garage and we rode the elevator together up to the dingy apt. She said she was 28 but looked around 40, body a bit thick but decent. I well know that the service you get is usually commensurate with the price, so I went in with lowered expectations. It turned out just about how I expected. I asked her for water, she had no glass and gave it to me in a bowl! No DFK, nixed back door play and FIV, gave CBJ and covered missionary to completion. What made it tolerable was that she was affectionate and seemed to genuinely enjoy herself, which was such a relief that I accepted half a loaf gladly. She doesn't speak English and I don't speak Chinese, so we were reduced to using the translation program on her phone to communicate. She asked me to come back again. There was no pressure to leave but since we couldn't really talk there was no point in prolonging the visit. I was out of there in about forty minutes.

    You can't always hit a home run in this hobby. Today I barely eked out a single.

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