"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JZLizard]

I here you Jeez. However that only works if you do not LIVE in the area.

Fred does I think.

Yeah I see that in his request now, sorry. I would just try to get her to meet somewhere at least 30 minutes away. Playing close to home is too risky.

[JZLizard]

I am almost leaning toward cutting her loose.

That's what I would do, just a UTR Nando-1 case.

[Ltnric]

So after a 4 month break I am back on SA and I hit up this 19 year old. I sent her my standard message and she hit me back up. She was very eager to go to the FC. I initially emailed her saying that I was willing to take my time to get to know her and see if we had a connection and this is what she wrote back.

"Idk I don't see why we have to hang out a few times to see if there is a connection. I'm guessing your looking for sex and idk why there has to be a connection for that and I don't have time to waste to go on dates to determine that, I'm struggling and can't even afford to eat or anything and I have bills to pay not to be rude but it's true".

She says she doesn't have a car and lives with her mom.

When asked how much she said however much I could afford to give her.

So my question guys is, does this sound fishy? Is she just UTR. I am so paranoid with the recent LEO activity in RVA.

UPDATE#1: I offered her $100 and she wrote back saying "Ok $100 for what". This is sounding like a sting. HELP MY BROTHERS. I DON'T WANT TO THINK WITH THE LITTLE HEAD! NEED SOME COMMON SENSE

UPDATE#2: she wrote back and said something to affect that if I wanted to have sex for $100 than I can move on. So I wrote back "200?" and she said wrote back I guess so. Oh man I can't be thinking with my little head. Any help is appreciated. I am almost leaning toward cutting her loose.

[Member #5055]

I here you Jeez. However that only works if you do not LIVE in the area.

Fred does I think.

So -- here goes.

Basically, if in an area where you live. Uou have to go for somewhere your friends would NEVER go.

So look for hole in the wall ethnic places -- your date will like the idea of different.

I took a date to Havanna69 several years ago! Big mistake, an ex workmate (thank god drunk) came up to chat -- - I am 150% sure he knew what was going on!!

So -- play away from home.

However -- if you want to play close -- check out the Richmond fan student spots -- look at sustainable and out there.

Of course -- if the warden is into all this kind of thing-- ignore big time!

GW.

Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.

[Member #4727]

Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.

Depends on which end of town you are talking about, or more specifically trying to avoid?

Richmond is very much a small town to be a city. Another option might be to take her out someplace like the Roslyn Center off of Parham / Chippenham where you overlook the James. Very picturesque. Not exactly a meal venue, but it's unique nonetheless.

[JZLizard]

Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.

In cities I'm unfamiliar with, I usually ask the POT who is familiar with the area to make suggestions for a general area that works well for them, then I use Bing / Google whatever to find nearby hotel / restaurants.

[FredMoore]

Any of you guys know a hotel / restaurant that is for transients to be used for a M&G? I need a venue to meet and feed Pots that is decent enough but not a place Richmonders go for a night out, like the Jefferson, Hyatt, Omni, or marriott. Maybe Holiday Inn Airport, Something like that? Preferably Banquette seating, some privacy, a wine list, and privacy.

[HollywoodGuy]

I could not tell ANY difference at all in color or viscosity -- the two TINY scars under your scrotum I cannot find at all -- and could not even after a couple of years!! I only know this as a girl I was fucking was not on BC and she only let me creampie her as I had a vasectomy. One day she wanted to see the scars and could not find them!!

I had to practically get a microscope out and show her NO SWIMMMERS! LOL.

I have a letter from my Dr in case someone wants proof. LOL.

[Member #5055]

I could not tell ANY difference at all in color or viscosity -- the two TINY scars under your scrotum I cannot find at all -- and could not even after a couple of years!! I only know this as a girl I was fucking was not on BC and she only let me creampie her as I had a vasectomy. One day she wanted to see the scars and could not find them!!

I had to practically get a microscope out and show her NO SWIMMMERS! LOL.

Does it affect the color / viscosity of the load? I'm not too concerned about total fluid volume -- more distance can be achieved by squeezing the hose a little bit, for example if in missionary and striving to aim for her face and hair.

[HollywoodGuy]

Does it affect the color / viscosity of the load? I'm not too concerned about total fluid volume -- more distance can be achieved by squeezing the hose a little bit, for example if in missionary and striving to aim for her face and hair.

I suppose it does get a little more clear. Not really an issue in any other way, except the relief you have, knowing you are not the father.

[JZLizard]

Statistically there is a 10% reduction in fluid.

Does it affect the color / viscosity of the load? I'm not too concerned about total fluid volume -- more distance can be achieved by squeezing the hose a little bit, for example if in missionary and striving to aim for her face and hair.

[JZLizard]

I dated a girl a few years ago who was LITERALLY trying to trap me through pregnancy. Before we had sex the first time, I brought up BC and she assured me without doubt she was on BC. But when we had sex, I noticed she always insisted I cum inside her. She would even grab on to me with a death grip when I tried to pull out and say, "baby cum inside me" So I got suspicious. I know most girls carry their BC with them, especially when overnighting. We went on a three day trip and I caught her off guard and asked her to see her BC and of course she had none and made up a bunch of BS excuses. So I walked over, pulled up my saved emails and texts with a very long conversation I saved between us, with her describing in detail how she was on BC. Then I leaned over and told her, if you come up pregnant, I will leave this game on the spot and then I will take our communications, get an attorney and sue your pretty little ass for setting me up. I told her, sure you'll get child support out of me, paid by the award I win against you for setting me up. I don't know if such actions are truly worthy of litigation, but it scared the heck out of her. I told her it would be a wash and I would come after her legally relentlessly for setting me up with something so disgusting.

I had a civy GF once (well I never actually called her my GF in front of her. Just someone I dated for a few weeks) that was similar -- she would not verbally tell me to cum inside, but she would always physically manipulate the situation to try to make that happen. She fell in love with me pretty quickly and she knew it wasn't mutual, but increasingly I felt like she was trying to lock me in to the relationship and I think she thought having a kid with me would be a good idea for her both financially and romantically. When we first started screwing, I would go unprotected in the vajay, but after a while put it in her mouth and let her finish me that way. I think she had an aversion to semen because she wasn't really enthusiastic about the money shot at the end. So after a while, she would try to switch back to vaginal from oral, claiming her mouth was tired, etc. Every now and then I would accommodate and just pull out, but after a while she was trying to grip on to keep me inside even during the paste event.

So, one time I just got fed up and pinned her legs up behind her head, jacked her up and went for the butthole, while she is squirming and saying "no! No! It was a calculated risk because I don't want to be accused of crimes later just because I was forceful and didn't accept resistance. But, I only put about a third of my total length in her ass and went kind of slow (no lube except spit), until I came in her ass. Then I explained from now on, its either going in her mouth or her ass. Surprisingly the anal event went really well, it was all she could talk about for about a day, how she enjoyed it even though her friends had scared her into never trying it. The night of the anal intrusion was the last time I ever banged her, because her sister saw me out with another girl about a week later, and instead of listening to a bunch of jealous bitching I just told her to get lost.

[HollywoodGuy]

Finally met up with this mid 20's 5'7" AA spinner. She was a 8/9/9/8 so far. I took the plunge and drove 50 plus miles last night to see her. We met in a strip mall parking lot where we talked for 2 hours in the car before she leaned in for a kiss.

Then for the next hour we pawed at each other like teenagers on lovers lane. We could have gotten a room but she declined. Although things didn't go as far as either of us would have liked it still warranted the payment of a $ for her time and set the stage for date number two.

I'm always worried when things get too chatty at first. I'd rather just get to the raw feelings and animal magnetism of the moment. I am a good hookup date but too much conversation can throw me off my game, but it all worked out well enough in the end, and did leave me wanting more. Maybe that was her plan.

I am sure that final 8 will be elevated to a 9 or 10 after a few more dates as we start to gain more insight into each others needs and desires. I would say that the voice mail she left this morning of her masturbating to orgasm is a good sign of things to come. She looked pretty innocent from afar, but she was far from innocent. Just my type.

[Rouleur]

You will never notice it -- the 10% are just the little swimmers!

I haven't had a single SB come up complaining of thirst!

[Member #5055]

You will never notice it -- the 10% are just the little swimmers!

Does the procedure reduce the amount of cum?

I already have reduced flow due to age things, and would hate to lose any more sensation or flow.

RE: a friend at the M&G. Do not do it. I did one with a sweet naive girl who I allowed to bring a "friend" The Pot was sweet, the friend was not and clearly influenced her negatively. Also, it is important to give the Pot your 100 watt smile and attention and you can't do that when working between the 2 .