Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**ClassASweetie** · 07-07-14 15:50

Originally Posted by CurvyChristina [View Original Post]

I've had to Come to DEPEND on provider replies, not only due to the lack of referral communication but also because in the past I "use to have" a client that was a retired detective, he told me so myna little tricks they use, and one very favorite trick they used was writing great reviews, he claimed that because a great review is " good advertising " that most providers see so many clients they don't remember their name, he said long as you never make up any fake details about conversation, or claim and positions etc. That you can get trusted by others to give personal info out thru PM, he said they use old reviews like if a girl got BAD reviews they would write a bad review or reply to that one agreeing to back the guy up, he said everyone likes being backed up so just that would get a guy talking to him, if writing a good review he said they read old good reviews and if it mentions a hair style Change or location change they will mention that info as it's already been said, he also said no provider is stupid enough to get on here and dispute a GOOD REVIEW so usually they just add to the member post count to get closer to being a Senior member. Because of that info, I always look to see if the girl actually replied, and I see if it sounds like a generic response or if she really remembered him. This is important IMO.

XOXOXO.

I never respond to a review unless I know for a fact I seen them and who they are. If a review goes up of me and I don't know who it is, I will pm and ask for specific detail.

**SilkyWetness** · 07-07-14 15:07

Originally Posted by LuvdaLadys14 [View Original Post]

When a provider responds to a positive post / review posted by a monger. For one thing it lets other ladies feel comfortable in knowing you are legitimate. Anyone can post a review of a lady, favorable or otherwise, but is it legit or LEO trolling looking for verification? When a lady puts her rubber stamp on it, if you will, it at the very least lets other ladies know you are legitimate and perhaps a gentleman if she's inclined to wax poetically.

Just my. 02 worth.

Luv.

That is exactly right and since when did being polite and thanking your partner of choice a wrong thing in my opinion manners are too few and too far maybe if people said thank you and your welcome more often people wouldn't be so worked up a thank you can go a long way.

**CurvyChristina** · 07-07-14 14:58

Originally Posted by LuvdaLadys14 [View Original Post]

When a provider responds to a positive post / review posted by a monger. For one thing it lets other ladies feel comfortable in knowing you are legitimate. Anyone can post a review of a lady, favorable or otherwise, but is it legit or LEO trolling looking for verification? When a lady puts her rubber stamp on it, if you will, it at the very least lets other ladies know you are legitimate and perhaps a gentleman if she's inclined to wax poetically.

Just my. 02 worth.

Luv.

I've had to Come to DEPEND on provider replies, not only due to the lack of referral communication but also because in the past I "use to have" a client that was a retired detective, he told me so myna little tricks they use, and one very favorite trick they used was writing great reviews, he claimed that because a great review is " good advertising " that most providers see so many clients they don't remember their name, he said long as you never make up any fake details about conversation, or claim and positions etc. That you can get trusted by others to give personal info out thru PM, he said they use old reviews like if a girl got BAD reviews they would write a bad review or reply to that one agreeing to back the guy up, he said everyone likes being backed up so just that would get a guy talking to him, if writing a good review he said they read old good reviews and if it mentions a hair style Change or location change they will mention that info as it's already been said, he also said no provider is stupid enough to get on here and dispute a GOOD REVIEW so usually they just add to the member post count to get closer to being a Senior member. Because of that info, I always look to see if the girl actually replied, and I see if it sounds like a generic response or if she really remembered him. This is important IMO.

XOXOXO.

**Stormyoneonly** · 07-07-14 14:16

Originally Posted by LuvdaLadys14 [View Original Post]

When a provider responds to a positive post / review posted by a monger. For one thing it lets other ladies feel comfortable in knowing you are legitimate. Anyone can post a review of a lady, favorable or otherwise, but is it legit or LEO trolling looking for verification? When a lady puts her rubber stamp on it, if you will, it at the very least lets other ladies know you are legitimate and perhaps a gentleman if she's inclined to wax poetically.

Just my. 02 worth.

Luv.

Plus I don't know this is true for other ladies but, I have been told several times that is why someone has seen me! The way I interact with my clients by responding shows that I remember the dream we shared together! As sometimes people I have seen wait for a week or so before they post! As Luv said it makes the reference checks a lot less painful in the long run! A lot of girls don't do reference checks or take a week or longer to get back to you! So the answer back is a great way to get references in the end! Thank you to all the ladies that have given reference checks to me in the past week I really do appreciate you more then you know! We are a family in a way and should stick together!

Stormy.

**Admin2** · 07-07-14 13:05

Originally Posted by JSmith90 [View Original Post]

Gone T M already covered much of the little things that I noticed as well.

I will say that there is one item that literally scares the hell out of me and that's the Facebook recommend button at the bottom of the ads. I use Facebook as I'm sure others here do as well and the last thing I want to do is accidentally click that recommend button and post a recommended link on my Facebook page for all my unbeknownst friends to see. I seen that button and I ran pretty fast. Maybe it doesn't do as I think it does but just thinking it does was enough to make me leave and write this message. I don't think any of the hobbyist want this near their Facebook account in any shape or form.

I'm gonna call the Russians, that's a setting, we just need to turn it off. I wasn't supposed to be on and I forgot to ask them. I agree 100% FB and this is a bad idea.

Thanks,

A2

**JSmith90** · 07-07-14 12:40

Gone T M already covered much of the little things that I noticed as well.

I will say that there is one item that literally scares the hell out of me and that's the Facebook recommend button at the bottom of the ads. I use Facebook as I'm sure others here do as well and the last thing I want to do is accidentally click that recommend button and post a recommended link on my Facebook page for all my unbeknownst friends to see. I seen that button and I ran pretty fast. Maybe it doesn't do as I think it does but just thinking it does was enough to make me leave and write this message. I don't think any of the hobbyist want this near their Facebook account in any shape or form.

**Admin2** · 07-07-14 12:35

Originally Posted by GoneTM [View Original Post]

A few thoughts on the new classified site:

Pix:

Yes, the "force to fit" preview is annoying and downright unflattering to some of our fair providers. This will be remedied by the more tech savvvy providers by making sure their pics fit the new format, and if they don't, they'll add "bling" to the pictures to make it proportion correctly.

Clicking on each picture opens a new tab rather than a floating box. This is cumbersome and should have a previous / next function. Plus, the pictures themselves are a bit small (I shouldn't need to constantly zoom in and out, it's annoying).

This is on the list of stuff to develop. I agree, we need a pop up box. What we are going to do until we have that is screw around with the divs and set the photos to display full size on the left. 100% agreed that it's cumbersome right now.

I no longer need to log in to see the pictures. Not sure how I feel on this one as I come here 3-6 times a week, but only log in to see pics from time to time.

Policies:

I understand the "Prices or Acts" policy from a CYA basis, but it does somewhat hamper both the providers as well as members. "Greek is $X extra" theoretically can't be stated as it's both an act and money. What about providers who offer massage at one rate and GFE at another? BnG now has to have a new euphemism of "Short Stay," so is that a BJ, BBBJ, BBBJCIM or a quickie? For the amount of money spent, can I expect the whole alphabet of services? Some girls don't allow MPOPS, etc and that factors into a member's decision. Contacting each one is a waste of my time and theirs.

Sorry there's no way around this. Their reviews will still be here so you will have a way to check, but you're correct, it won't be in the ad unless something drastic changes up there.

Contact:

I like the ability to contact them quickly via form, but I should have to be logged in to do so. This will waste much more time for the girls I think from phony email addresses, but I could be wrong. PMs work similarly already for certain verification. EMail is one of the worst ways to communicate with a provider as it "feels" more permanent / traceable and is far easier to subpoena, and so on.

We are going to add (hopefully in the next day or so) an option on the form to send via email or PM here

Misc Improvements:

If this is the route you're going to take, then Provider Profiles seem to be a natural progression. This would be like the ECCIE Showcase (delete the name before if you don't want a reference to a competing site, though it doesn't exist in Cincy) showing services, "standard (non-special, not inflated)" rates, part of town, in / out call, etc.

More on this later

Other Thoughts:

It looks to me like you made Cincy your beta before it should have been. This could have been more thought out and by bifurcating your client base into two sites, I'm not sure if the gamble will pay off or divide your clientele too much. We now have to bounce back and forth to see reviews, chat among each other and see ads, and so forth. I personally don't like it.

You are correct, we needed to beta test it and I choose Sincy because I talk to a lot of both the girls and guys here. I'm not going to apologize for that one, we had to do it somewhere, I chose you guys because I knew you would do stuff like this. Sorry for the pain in the ass, seriously I am, but considering how long and how free this site has been I figured we had the right for a big ask. I'm not trying to be a dick, I mean that.

There should be provider names / handles at the top or in a corner or something. It's a bit too jumbled. I'm looking at providers I know I'm not interested in while looking for ones I want to see if they're running specials, etc.

Great minds think alike, the Russians are working on this as we speak.

Oh yeah, and when you first go to the site, the title in the HTML (shows in the tab on browsers) is still "USA Sex Guide" - FYI

Okay, I think I'm done (but likely not) for now. YMMV, Just my 0. 02, Ya get what'cha pay for, blah blah blah.

I really do appreciate you taking the time to write this. Most of this stuff are things we have already seen and agree about. The no log in thing isn't directed at guys like you, but rather new guys we hope to attract. I'll fix the USA Sex Guide in the tab. I hadn't seen that, thanks.

A2

**Admin2** · 07-07-14 12:25

Originally Posted by Josh88 [View Original Post]

This is the "Rant & Rave" section isn't it? Why should Admin be commenting on the content of my posts if I am not breaking any rules? I wasn't calling out any specific post or person, or provider. IMO, if a monger & provider are going to exchange romantic chatter, maybe they should just PM each other, or maybe there should be a whole new topic created called "Sappy Exchanges Between Monger & Provider"?

Because that was me, the guy. Not me; the godlike presence on the forum answering. The difference has always been that when I post in black you can flame me back. As an Admin it would be inappropriate for me to call you a whiny little girl that isn't happy unless you're peeing in somebodies cornflakes, but as me, the monger, in black ink, on a fight thread, in my adopted and beloved home town of Sincy, fuck yeah, it's fine.

And me, the guy, still doesn't understand why you don't just use the ignore function to get rid of the problem. Unless you just like coming here and pissing on people who are enjoying themselves.

**LuvdaLadys14** · 07-07-14 11:52

Originally Posted by Josh88 [View Original Post]

Am I the only one who finds the back and forth love chatter posts between monger & provider after a session a little sappy, mushy, gooey, maudlin, cheesy, etc? Do we really need to read that? I hope you guys are getting a discount? You all know what I mean.

When a provider responds to a positive post / review posted by a monger. For one thing it lets other ladies feel comfortable in knowing you are legitimate. Anyone can post a review of a lady, favorable or otherwise, but is it legit or LEO trolling looking for verification? When a lady puts her rubber stamp on it, if you will, it at the very least lets other ladies know you are legitimate and perhaps a gentleman if she's inclined to wax poetically.

Just my. 02 worth.

Luv.

**Gone T M** · 07-07-14 08:19

A few thoughts on the new classified site:

Pix:

Yes, the "force to fit" preview is annoying and downright unflattering to some of our fair providers. This will be remedied by the more tech savvvy providers by making sure their pics fit the new format, and if they don't, they'll add "bling" to the pictures to make it proportion correctly.

Clicking on each picture opens a new tab rather than a floating box. This is cumbersome and should have a previous / next function. Plus, the pictures themselves are a bit small (I shouldn't need to constantly zoom in and out, it's annoying).

I no longer need to log in to see the pictures. Not sure how I feel on this one as I come here 3-6 times a week, but only log in to see pics from time to time.

Policies:

I understand the "Prices or Acts" policy from a CYA basis, but it does somewhat hamper both the providers as well as members. "Greek is $X extra" theoretically can't be stated as it's both an act and money. What about providers who offer massage at one rate and GFE at another? BnG now has to have a new euphemism of "Short Stay," so is that a BJ, BBBJ, BBBJCIM or a quickie? For the amount of money spent, can I expect the whole alphabet of services? Some girls don't allow MPOPS, etc and that factors into a member's decision. Contacting each one is a waste of my time and theirs.

Contact:

I like the ability to contact them quickly via form, but I should have to be logged in to do so. This will waste much more time for the girls I think from phony email addresses, but I could be wrong. PMs work similarly already for certain verification. EMail is one of the worst ways to communicate with a provider as it "feels" more permanent / traceable and is far easier to subpoena, and so on.

Misc Improvements:

If this is the route you're going to take, then Provider Profiles seem to be a natural progression. This would be like the ECCIE Showcase (delete the name before if you don't want a reference to a competing site, though it doesn't exist in Cincy) showing services, "standard (non-special, not inflated)" rates, part of town, in / out call, etc.

Other Thoughts:

It looks to me like you made Cincy your beta before it should have been. This could have been more thought out and by bifurcating your client base into two sites, I'm not sure if the gamble will pay off or divide your clientele too much. We now have to bounce back and forth to see reviews, chat among each other and see ads, and so forth. I personally don't like it.

There should be provider names / handles at the top or in a corner or something. It's a bit too jumbled. I'm looking at providers I know I'm not interested in while looking for ones I want to see if they're running specials, etc.

Oh yeah, and when you first go to the site, the title in the HTML (shows in the tab on browsers) is still "USA Sex Guide" - FYI

Okay, I think I'm done (but likely not) for now. YMMV, Just my 0. 02, Ya get what'cha pay for, blah blah blah.

**Member #5083** · 07-07-14 08:06

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

Dude, if you don't like what somebody posts then just fucking ignore them. Why is it that the guys that like to complain always find something new to complain about and just fucking HATE it when people are having a good time.

Click their names, click "Add to Ignore List" problem fucking solved.

This is the "Rant & Rave" section isn't it? Why should Admin be commenting on the content of my posts if I am not breaking any rules? I wasn't calling out any specific post or person, or provider. IMO, if a monger & provider are going to exchange romantic chatter, maybe they should just PM each other, or maybe there should be a whole new topic created called "Sappy Exchanges Between Monger & Provider"?

**Member #4637** · 07-07-14 05:21

Ladies, when posting an ad on th new site, please put your working names in the headline so we know who you are. The pictures are difficult to recognize and if we don't see your name, we may not open your ad. Just a suggestion!

**Admin2** · 07-07-14 03:38

Sending me a note that says "The new site sux" isn't helpful. If you can't tell me what's wrong I can't fix it. I keep a file of everything guys tell me.

A2.

**Admin2** · 07-06-14 21:01

Originally Posted by Josh88 [View Original Post]

Am I the only one who finds the back and forth love chatter posts between monger & provider after a session a little sappy, mushy, gooey, maudlin, cheesy, etc? Do we really need to read that? I hope you guys are getting a discount? You all know what I mean.

Dude, if you don't like what somebody posts then just fucking ignore them. Why is it that the guys that like to complain always find something new to complain about and just fucking HATE it when people are having a good time.

Click their names, click "Add to Ignore List" problem fucking solved.

**Member #5083** · 07-06-14 16:57

Am I the only one who finds the back and forth love chatter posts between monger & provider after a session a little sappy, mushy, gooey, maudlin, cheesy, etc? Do we really need to read that? I hope you guys are getting a discount? You all know what I mean.