"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Dsprdo]

But skip the 60 dollar steaks on a first date. Most girls would rather have the cash anyway unless it all about just wining and dining.

I think her suggesting this is a SB credit check. Just don't know if I want to pass.

[Dsprdo]

I love when they say they just want to hang out.

"Hook up" is pretty unambiguous, and I think "hang out" is pretty much the next step down on the euphemism scale for "these kids today!

[HollywoodGuy]

Been texting with a 29 yo latina part time underwear model. 9/9/9. She has been a good communicator and didn't seem GPS. We finally set up a meet, dinner on Saturday night. She lives about a half hour from me so I asked her to pick a place near her. This has worked out in the past, usually they pick someplace less expensive than I would have. She picked a very high end steak house (talking $60 entrees). I actually like hitting those places once in a while and wouldn't have a problem with taking an established SB but was taken back by that as a M&G. Does the combined wisdom say this a harbinger of her tastes and expectations for all things sugar? I am thinking about ditching her because I don't need the headache and don't plan to commit a major chunk of the sugar budget to one girl.

Helping to nudge me in that direction is the fact that I too seem to be in an "up" period for SB's. Met the girl who flaked on me Sunday night last night for dinner. We have confirmed a FC visit for Friday. Have a M&G tonight with a 29 yo blond 8/8, tattooed, harley riding MILF whose pics look like she should be on the cover of a bike magazine. She has had a SD before and appears ready to go if we agree on sugar. I'm canceling a previously scheduled meet with my regular SB tomorrow (she was just over yesterday) in order to have lunch with a 20 yo first timer, 7/8, white, long brown hair. She has agreed in principle to come back to my place to "hang out" after lunch if we connect. Then I have dinner tomorrow night with a 24 yo latina nursing student / MILF, 7/9, who also says she is new to this but is completely okay with the idea. If I close even 2 of the 4 (and one seems a done deal); then I won't have time, funds, or energy for the UW model. But she is sooo hot!

What say you?

I love when they say they just want to hang out. But skip the 60 dollar steaks on a first date. Most girls would rather have the cash anyway unless it all about just wining and dining. I always say lets just meet at starbucks.

[LandonR]

Been texting with a 29 yo latina part time underwear model. 9/9/9. She has been a good communicator and didn't seem GPS. We finally set up a meet, dinner on Saturday night. She lives about a half hour from me so I asked her to pick a place near her. This has worked out in the past, usually they pick someplace less expensive than I would have. She picked a very high end steak house (talking $60 entrees). I actually like hitting those places once in a while and wouldn't have a problem with taking an established SB but was taken back by that as a M&G. Does the combined wisdom say this a harbinger of her tastes and expectations for all things sugar? I am thinking about ditching her because I don't need the headache and don't plan to commit a major chunk of the sugar budget to one girl.

Helping to nudge me in that direction is the fact that I too seem to be in an "up" period for SB's. Met the girl who flaked on me Sunday night last night for dinner. We have confirmed a FC visit for Friday. Have a M&G tonight with a 29 yo blond 8/8, tattooed, harley riding MILF whose pics look like she should be on the cover of a bike magazine. She has had a SD before and appears ready to go if we agree on sugar. I'm canceling a previously scheduled meet with my regular SB tomorrow (she was just over yesterday) in order to have lunch with a 20 yo first timer, 7/8, white, long brown hair. She has agreed in principle to come back to my place to "hang out" after lunch if we connect. Then I have dinner tomorrow night with a 24 yo latina nursing student / MILF, 7/9, who also says she is new to this but is completely okay with the idea. If I close even 2 of the 4 (and one seems a done deal); then I won't have time, funds, or energy for the UW model. But she is sooo hot!

What say you?

I might be thinking with the small head for you, but the UW model sounds hot! I think I'd take her to the fancy steak house. Tell her you had a late lunch and aren't hungry so just order a small app or some drinks. Keep the bill under $100 and get down to bizness!

[Dsprdo]

Been texting with a 29 yo latina part time underwear model. 9/9/9. She has been a good communicator and didn't seem GPS. We finally set up a meet, dinner on Saturday night. She lives about a half hour from me so I asked her to pick a place near her. This has worked out in the past, usually they pick someplace less expensive than I would have. She picked a very high end steak house (talking $60 entrees). I actually like hitting those places once in a while and wouldn't have a problem with taking an established SB but was taken back by that as a M&G. Does the combined wisdom say this a harbinger of her tastes and expectations for all things sugar? I am thinking about ditching her because I don't need the headache and don't plan to commit a major chunk of the sugar budget to one girl.

Helping to nudge me in that direction is the fact that I too seem to be in an "up" period for SB's. Met the girl who flaked on me Sunday night last night for dinner. We have confirmed a FC visit for Friday. Have a M&G tonight with a 29 yo blond 8/8, tattooed, harley riding MILF whose pics look like she should be on the cover of a bike magazine. She has had a SD before and appears ready to go if we agree on sugar. I'm canceling a previously scheduled meet with my regular SB tomorrow (she was just over yesterday) in order to have lunch with a 20 yo first timer, 7/8, white, long brown hair. She has agreed in principle to come back to my place to "hang out" after lunch if we connect. Then I have dinner tomorrow night with a 24 yo latina nursing student / MILF, 7/9, who also says she is new to this but is completely okay with the idea. If I close even 2 of the 4 (and one seems a done deal); then I won't have time, funds, or energy for the UW model. But she is sooo hot!

What say you?

[Member #5055]

We await with baited breath!! Welcome back my friend.

Hello my brothers!

I am glad to be once again among the land of the living. A quick scan of the clubhouse journal shows me many, many new names, a few old familiars, and plenty of exploits to catch up on. I will file a full report in the next few days or so, but suffice it to say that I have been dealing with health, marital and financial stresses, any one of which would have been enough to knock me out for good, but it is a testament to the power of the Bowl that I rallied, got my shit together, and am feeling optimistic about hearing the soft yet unmistakable sound of panties hitting the floor again soon!

For those of you new Brothers who don't know me, welcome and glad to meet you. Hopefully you have learned from the considerable collective wisdom that is contained in these pages, and are enjoying this most woderful and elevated of hobbies. Please keep in mind the injunction of our founder, Literal2, which is "do no harm. " These little fish are gentle creatures, if your are casting to the right ones, and should be treated as such. Banging a battle-weary war horse, no matter how much lipstick she has on, is nothing to brag about, in my opinion. For all my old friends, I hope you have saved me a spot at the table, and want to assure you that I am back from the dead, (almost literally), and am eager to read of your exploits. I have a few interesting anecdotes, but not much in the way of new exploits, except I'm pretty sure I'm a baby-daddy (how's that for a tease? More later).

Peace to you all.

Scott.

[HollywoodGuy]

Nice tight body! Looks like a sleep over FB. A good trade is a place to crash in return for unlimited sex.

It is virtually raining pussy in my area. Every time I get bummed out when the new applicant pool is low the response before long is overwhelming. So much pussy so little time and money. I wish I were rich again! 5 nights / week is not unrealistic. Girls with low paying jobs are in need of a cash infusion.

Definitely off the charts here. I am turning down pussy left and right. Mostly pros and UTR's. Trying to just get with the real SB's. And there are a lot of those. L. A. Gets a large influx of out of towners during the summer as well.

[FredMoore]

I have written previously about this POT. Answered a CL ad, 22 year old And very skittish back in October. But kept engaged through her various drama events. Tried several different approaches to close the deal but other than a quick BJ in May nothing worked. Well at least I was getting somewhere but otherwise no in person contact. She has been broken up with boyfriend and been staying "with friends". So last night get a "I need a place to stay tonight" and some back and forth "what do you expect" Of course I expect you to be appreciative. Well her stunning personality is not her best trait, but it's the tight and wettest puntang I have ever experienced.

Drove her to work this am and now headed out of town. Have no idea if there will be a repeat but at least there was a first time. Keep the faith Attachment 330764Attachment 330764.

Nice tight body! Looks like a sleep over FB. A good trade is a place to crash in return for unlimited sex.

It is virtually raining pussy in my area. Every time I get bummed out when the new applicant pool is low the response before long is overwhelming. So much pussy so little time and money. I wish I were rich again! 5 nights / week is not unrealistic. Girls with low paying jobs are in need of a cash infusion.

[FeelGoodMd]

I just had this text conversation with an 18 year old, tall, white, sultry Pot I met through SA. She's curvy but still a flatbelly (absolutely the type I love), and seems intelligent. We met about 3 weeks ago for coffee (kinda surreal, because her 16 year old sister drove her there). We have pretty good chemistry, though there is something reserved about her. I gave her. 2 for gas, and we agreed to meet in the FC today. The delay was caused by my schedule, and her going out of town with her family to visit a sick grandmother.

I texted her periodically every few days, rarely getting a reply or getting a very terse response when she did answer. That was somewhat off-putting, because I do like the interaction with an SB beyond the FC. However, I figured she was busy with family stuff, so I wrote it off. 2 days ago I texted her to confirm that we were still on for today, and when I didn't hear back for 24 hours (now 10+ days without a word from her) I was assuming we weren't getting together because I hadn't heard from her.

This morning, she texts back to say that her grandmother had died and she was in no shape to talk for a while, but that she still wanted to get together today. We agree on a meeting place. Then the convo goes off the rails:

Pot: How much should I expect in return?

Me: I don't want to discuss that in advance. It seems so. Transactional.

Me: It's safe to assume I'll give you more after spending a couple hours together in private than I did after having coffee.

Pot: Well, my last arrangement we would do whatever we were both comfortable with for 500/ h. Anything more that he wants he pays significantly more for.

Me: That's not going to work for me. I'm sorry. My gift is typically (depending on how well the visit goes.

Pot: Those are literal hooker rates.

Me: (name). Sugar babies don't have "rates. " A sugar baby accept gifts from their Daddy.

Me: For me an SD / SB arrangement is about more than just how much money is involved. There is some sort of connection beyond the physical and the finances. It's about emotional support, guidance, advice, chemistry, and a slew of other factors beyond sex and money. No Baby I've been with has even "set a fee" or complained about the gift I gave her. We were with each other for the companionship as well as the sex.

Pot: I've come to expect gifts as very very generous. If that's too much for you I understand.

Me: I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother. I hope you are able to grieve her in whatever way you need to.

Me: I also hope you will take a serious look at whether you want to be a Sugar Baby or an escort. What you're doing right now sounds a lot more like the latter.

That was that. No reply from her after that (shockingly). One of the problems I had (other than what I laid out in the texts): she is full of it to say that her last SD gave her $$hr in this market (or he was a complete idiot / sucker). It insults my intelligence that she thought I would believe that. Another was her lack of communication. Not even a "I'm sorry, but granny died and I don't feel like texting. ".

Fortunately, I started seeing a new SB last week (on her 20th birthday) who is almost a carbon copy of that Pot (a little shorter, a couple years older, and light-skinned AA), and I texted her after that exchange and said I had a cancellation in my schedule and I am available this afternoon. She immediately replied with "when and where. " Last week she never asked about money in advance, was genuinely enthusiastic about the sex, seemed disappointed when she had to leave after 3 hours to get to a birthday party her sorority was throwing for her, and texted me multiple thank you's when she discovered how much I had given her ($ in an outside pocket of her purse, and. 5 in a be'day card so she knew they were "separate" gifts). Her only complaint, if you could call it that, was that I was too gentle and she wanted me to leave "marks" next time. Later that night she texted a picture of my card sitting in a prominent place on her dorm room desk (thankfully I have generic handwriting and I didn't sign it. Even with the fake name I gave her).

I have a feeling I am going to enjoy today much better with my new SB than I would have with that Pot.

[Graham111]

I have written previously about this POT. Answered a CL ad, 22 year old And very skittish back in October. But kept engaged through her various drama events. Tried several different approaches to close the deal but other than a quick BJ in May nothing worked. Well at least I was getting somewhere but otherwise no in person contact. She has been broken up with boyfriend and been staying "with friends". So last night get a "I need a place to stay tonight" and some back and forth "what do you expect" Of course I expect you to be appreciative. Well her stunning personality is not her best trait, but it's the tight and wettest puntang I have ever experienced.

Drove her to work this am and now headed out of town. Have no idea if there will be a repeat but at least there was a first time. Keep the faith .

[GeorgeRichmond]

Welcome back scott. This board was missing you. ! One of the pro is back. !

[John G Smith]

Welcome back! I also returned about two months ago after about an 8 month absence. The force is indeed strong in the Bowl that it always seems to pull one back into its gravitational pull.

I look forward to hearing your update. Glad to have one of the original knights back at the round table.

[FredMoore]

Scottie, you're back!! Welcome to the land of the living, or, er,the Loving!

[Dsprdo]

Hello my brothers!

Welcome back! More than one has asked what became of you so I'm sure we all will look forward to your tale. You were among the band that encouraged me to take the plunge, and its good to hear that all is (more or less) well.

[F Scott]

Hello my brothers!

I am glad to be once again among the land of the living. A quick scan of the clubhouse journal shows me many, many new names, a few old familiars, and plenty of exploits to catch up on. I will file a full report in the next few days or so, but suffice it to say that I have been dealing with health, marital and financial stresses, any one of which would have been enough to knock me out for good, but it is a testament to the power of the Bowl that I rallied, got my shit together, and am feeling optimistic about hearing the soft yet unmistakable sound of panties hitting the floor again soon!

For those of you new Brothers who don't know me, welcome and glad to meet you. Hopefully you have learned from the considerable collective wisdom that is contained in these pages, and are enjoying this most woderful and elevated of hobbies. Please keep in mind the injunction of our founder, Literal2, which is "do no harm. " These little fish are gentle creatures, if your are casting to the right ones, and should be treated as such. Banging a battle-weary war horse, no matter how much lipstick she has on, is nothing to brag about, in my opinion. For all my old friends, I hope you have saved me a spot at the table, and want to assure you that I am back from the dead, (almost literally), and am eager to read of your exploits. I have a few interesting anecdotes, but not much in the way of new exploits, except I'm pretty sure I'm a baby-daddy (how's that for a tease? More later).

Peace to you all.

Scott.