Thunderdome

[Member #4868]

reason I'm defending Larry, MikeWilliams88, or the spa is because they can't defend themselves due to Admin2 shutting them off from the site.

Can you explain why they are shut off from the site?

[Smoke Screen]

As for Larry aside from 1021 I've never seen a spa where the customers mention the manager so much. They're really the ones who keep the story going. I can't say the Larry saga is over. Especially now that there is a commercial stake involved with the new T-shirt lines.

I thought I was done responding to your nonsense but it looks like I'll go on forever. You say the customers are the ones who keep the story going? Seems to me most of your recent posts are about Larry, MikeWilliams88, or NMS. I'm not going to go through all the threads here to prove my point, but if you think about it, you'll see that I'm right, as hard as it will be for you to accept it.

Oh, and the main reason I'm defending Larry, MikeWilliams88, or the spa is because they can't defend themselves due to Admin2 shutting them off from the site. You may like to kick someone when they are down, but I don't agree with those tactics, and would defend most anyone in unfair circumstances.

[Fly Dangler]

from your below post you seem to know something your not saying or sharing

Duh! Isn't that exactly what I said in the post you cite? And if you read that, and the post it was in response to you'd know exactly what it was I'm not sharing, and the context of the two will tell you why.

Everything else in your post I've also covered in the past. It would seem you've researched my posts, therefore you should have seen everything you brought up already covered. I don't see any reason to repeat any of it, do you?

How many more will YA / YF bring in from the Boston forum in support of their mindless tirade? Should there be an expectation of more really dumb questions?

[Yellowfever023]

Yet from your below post you seem to know something your not saying or sharing.

What is it that you know that your not telling or saying about Larry & MikeWilliams?

Or is it as BigStar1 asked about Larry's real forum name that you don't want to divulge.

I know you won't answer that directly but I had to ask, so I don't believe your no vote a 100%.

A lot of times it's what we infer in the comments we make that says they know something but won't say, are FOS, or mentioned something they shouldn't have in the first place, which is it here?

As for YF & Yard being one in the same person, it seems that you already have your mind made up on that, & no matter what proof or evidence that would be put before you I don't think you would change your mind (hope I'm wrong).

I have met YF & we've talked here & there over the last 5 yrs or so & I can say he's a stand up guy & the same for Yard, Yard & i haven't met in person or talked on the phone but we've shared info, pms, & emails so I can attest to the fact that they are two different men.

I also find it curious or interesting that you omitted the part of PW's post referring to YF & Yard as separate individuals, it's as if you did not want to acknowledge PW's statement.

If you look at Yards & YF old posts you would see a very distinct difference in their writing styles, Yard was long winded back then (no offense Yard) YF not so much.

Believe what you want Fly but about YF & Yard being the same person you are wrong, dead wrong.

I don't have a dog in this debate as MP's are not my thing in any way shape or form so I'm not choosing anyones side here.

However I've been reading & following this since it started & would like to see if Larry & MikeWilliams are in fact one in the same as to me that affects individuals credibility.

The circumstantial evidence is telling me yes, yet I am not 100% convinced, & should it never be resolved, it's ok I'll live.

As for NMS or any other place or provider I try & look at it as I am only responsible for my own good or bad experiences not others good or bad experiences.

Thanks for having our back!

[Yellowfever023]

Due to heavy requests via PM two new shirts have been added. 1 and 4 go together, 2 and 3 go togther.

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[Skatar018]

My vote is no

Yet from your below post you seem to know something your not saying or sharing.

What is it that you know that your not telling or saying about Larry & MikeWilliams?

Or is it as BigStar1 asked about Larry's real forum name that you don't want to divulge.

I know you won't answer that directly but I had to ask, so I don't believe your no vote a 100%.

A lot of times it's what we infer in the comments we make that says they know something but won't say, are FOS, or mentioned something they shouldn't have in the first place, which is it here?

Sorry, but I hesitate to do so after the actions I've seen Yardape08 and one other formerly trusted senior as well as A2 take concerning this matter. IMHO he can break his silence himself if he so desires, but he may well have what he considers good reason not to post here anymore and so I refuse to out him to anyone here, even if done privately. Since we know he still reads this forum it's possible he might try contacting you after reading your note.

As for YF & Yard being one in the same person, it seems that you already have your mind made up on that, & no matter what proof or evidence that would be put before you I don't think you would change your mind (hope I'm wrong).

I have met YF & we've talked here & there over the last 5 yrs or so & I can say he's a stand up guy & the same for Yard, Yard & i haven't met in person or talked on the phone but we've shared info, pms, & emails so I can attest to the fact that they are two different men.

I also find it curious or interesting that you omitted the part of PW's post referring to YF & Yard as separate individuals, it's as if you did not want to acknowledge PW's statement.

If you look at Yards & YF old posts you would see a very distinct difference in their writing styles, Yard was long winded back then (no offense Yard) YF not so much.

Believe what you want Fly but about YF & Yard being the same person you are wrong, dead wrong.

Since it seems (please notice I didn't say I know) you and YF MAY be the same person then both visiting NMS at the same time should have been easy. Since no "facts" have yet come to light to prove your both the same person I guess, for the time being, we'll just leave it at that.

I don't have a dog in this debate as MP's are not my thing in any way shape or form so I'm not choosing anyones side here.

However I've been reading & following this since it started & would like to see if Larry & MikeWilliams are in fact one in the same as to me that affects individuals credibility.

The circumstantial evidence is telling me yes, yet I am not 100% convinced, & should it never be resolved, it's ok I'll live.

As for NMS or any other place or provider I try & look at it as I am only responsible for my own good or bad experiences not others good or bad experiences.

[Fly Dangler]

Take a poll here and based on everything written how many members believe MikeWilliams88 is Larry

Okay. Yardape08 wants to know how many of us think "Mikewilliams88" is really Larry, the Papasan at North Main Street Spa in Providence?

My vote is no based on posting history, language (Larry is Chinese, also speaks Korean and English is his third language), style used in his notes, and the fact he's recommended other places too (Admiral, Far East, One Spa and others). See http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/se...earchid=603001.

[Member #4868]

So me, you, Yellow and a few others are getting blowjobs and FS at some AMP's known as HJ only. Other guys are getting HJ's and complaining that the girl will not do more than OTC roaming. Stay focused on the end game; you are getting way more for way less (we need to talk!) so take solace in that incredibly important fact!

My advice for tonight is have a couple beers, bang a hot Asian chick and relish in the fact that you did the legwork and reaped the rewards.

[Yardape08]

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Bigstar I read this post in the Massage Parlors thread before it was deleted. Please be so kind as to repost it here so I can properly tell you to go fuck yourself. It just isn't the same without the proper context. Thanks in advance.

Maybe instead of bitching about larry and you had reported about these other places, people would have gone there, But you wanted to keep it secret. This forum is for sharing. When we have a good time at NMS we share the information. If you don't like that we are having a good time then too bad and shut the fuck up.

Bigstar1.

So Yellowfever already moved it here I see. First of all I have posted tons of reviews on this site and I am really not interested in keeping secrets except when it comes to UTR girls who really don't want to expand their customer base. To be honest I forgot about Nadia. And PW Herman is probably right now that I said something the floodgates will probably open on here. I don't need to be lectured by you BigShit on what this site is for. I have shared reams of intelligence with others here both publically and privately. That's great that you have a good time at NMS. I still feel it's important to hear the other side and keep things in perspective. I made the mistake of reading embellished reviews of a girl and went down there and was shocked when I saw her. At first I thought there had been some sort of mistake but it was in the fact the girl that had glowing reviews here. I want others who haven't been there to hear both sides of the story. So now I can say it Go Fuck Yourself BigShit

[Yardape08]

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Bigstar I read this post in the Massage Parlors thread before it was deleted. Please be so kind as to repost it here so I can properly tell you to go fuck yourself. It just isn't the same without the proper context. Thanks in advance.

[Yardape08]

Well congrats for going back to work, and for not calling in sick. Did you get a gold star on your forehead for doing what you were suppose to do?

If it's none of my business that you got laid off, then maybe you shouldn't post it for everyone to see.

I never said anything about being an elder statesman, nor about having lots of experience.

I've said numerous times, NMS is not one of my favorite spas.

As far as anger issues, sounds like you're the one with anger issues, not me.

Looks like everything in your post is wrong, you should think things through before spouting off.

Don't you think you've worn out your rant about NMS and Larry?

Well you are a true dick for making assumptions and calling me a "lazy prick" and you're right that one did get me angry so congratulations. Couching it by saying I opened myself up as if I'm to blame for you insulting me is lame. You're certainly entitled to say anything you want regardless after all this is Thunderdome. As for Larry aside from 1021 I've never seen a spa where the customers mention the manager so much. They're really the ones who keep the story going. I can't say the Larry saga is over. Especially now that there is a commercial stake involved with the new T-shirt lines.

[Yardape08]

Hey PW, welcome back! Been a while since we've seen you around these parts.

Actually this started long before YardApe's post about a couple HJ places in Mass offering exemplary services at bargain basement prices. If you were informed otherwise before getting involved here I'm afraid you were sorely misinformed.

I too was on CLR for many years, but only remember one screen name anyone (meaning probably most participating there) thought was Larry. They were IMHO pretty obvious, comical, yet informative as to who was working, who worked well together, changes in the providers' clothing and such. What I don't recall is ever seeing the screen name "MikeWilliams" or any variant on it there, or anywhere until here. The differences in language and writing style between the two are like night and day, and if you ever had a conversation with Larry I doubt you'd ever think him capable of composing the "MikeWilliams" missives we saw here.

So you're definitely confirming Nadia provides a real GFE with DFK, FIV, BBBJCIM, prolonged DATY, really sensual massage, enjoys herself and let's you know it at bargain basement rates, eh? Strange that no one on the Boston AMP forum would confirm this, and that you chose to do so here. I'd think there'd be oodles of confirmations of that, and probably a line out her door, but most all her reviews over there give no clue anything like this is available. In fact there was so little of any consequence written that you wrote a note there October 29th of last year looking for intel on her.

IAC don't be a stranger. Pop in anytime!

Since it seems (please notice I didn't say I know) you and YF MAY be the same person then both visiting NMS at the same time should have been easy. Since no "facts" have yet come to light to prove your both the same person I guess, for the time being, we'll just leave it at that.

So you still claim you "know" MW88 and Larry are sharing identities here? You've yet to say how you actually "know" this or provided any real facts or even anything raising reasonable suspicion on which you base this allegation, although I've asked a few times. Even Admin2 in his note about it (see http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...681&viewfull=1#post2051681) admitted it was only a hunch and so couldn't take it any further than he did. At least he was honest about it.

Take a poll here and based on everything written how many members believe Mikewilliams88 is Larry. We don't need a lawyer to tell us there is irrefutable proof. Sometimes in life are just plain obvious. And you admit you used to see Larry posting as someone else on the old site but surmise that since you talk to Larry you can't believe he would be writing as Mikewilliams does. Well I'm sure since Larry already has a history of deception he's sneaky enough to write in a way that throws people off. Maybe it really is the kitchen mama and Larry has plausible deniability. Of course this is all quite ridiculous but you can go on believing whatever you want. I'm sure many here that suck up to Larry have knowledge that he is in fact Mikewilliams but are afraid to admit it really doesn't matter to me cause I already have my opinion.

So even with PW claiming he stands by my review 110% you still have doubts. I was asked a simple question whether I knew of better HJ spas than NMS and provided the examples. So just like Mikewilliams I guess we'll never be able to prove this either. I really don't give a fuck what you believe. As far as saying I got her cheap I respectfully disagree. The session I noted was $120.00 and I get far better service for that from a group of girls I've been seeing the past couple of years for roughly the same amount of $ albeit not from a HJ spa. And many of them sleep over for that same rate.

I have nothing against guys who like to frequent HJ spas but my hobbying has evolved to try and get the best bang for my buck and that doesn't mean I'm settling for less attractive women but rather to the contrary their bodies and looks keep getting better and the price keeps dropping. This is simply because I know I am the customer and always in charge. Again I stand by what I have repeated many times over. Tipping $40-$60 for a fully clothed HJ at NMS is overpaying for an average experience. And the worst part of it is the perceived acceptance by the masses here and the downright indignation when anyone suggests Larry could treat the customers better. That's the part that dismays me because I've always had different give in take with mamasans and they are usually very agreeable to listen and step things up. For full disclosure I've never dealt with a papas an and frankly don't think I'd want to.

[Member #4868]

So you're definitely confirming Nadia provides a real GFE with DFK, FIV, BBBJCIM, prolonged DATY, really sensual massage, enjoys herself and let's you know it at bargain basement rates, eh? Strange that no one on the Boston AMP forum would confirm this, and that you chose to do so here. I'd think there'd be oodles of confirmations of that, and probably a line out her door, but most all her reviews over there give no clue anything like this is available. In fact there was so little of any consequence written that you wrote a note there October 29th of last year looking for intel on her.

Fly, I will reply in greater length at some other time but wanted to get this out of the way.

My time with Nadia was very similar to YA's but I tipped more. Could I have tipped less? Seems to be a possibility. Why did I inquire about her in October? Well, I had heard a rumor that she was no longer offering her GFE type service. If you read my inquiry the key word is "recent". As for why nobody is chiming in, well that's pretty simple. You find a AMP girl that is thin and cute giving BBBJ's its best to share with caution. I will venture there are a handful of Nadia regulars none to happy with Yard right now.

[Fly Dangler]

I will further add that this started with Yards post about a couple places in mass offering better than average and better than NMS service. While I can not comment on one I can say that his report on Nadia is 110% accurate. I would see her far more often if I were closer. My only issue is that he tipped less than I did, the prick!

As for NMS I have never been and will never go. That place has had so many shills thru the years that I lost track. Mikewilliams goes all the way back to the days of CLR where he was outed on numerous occasions and bagged with multiple personalities and handles.

Hey PW, welcome back! Been a while since we've seen you around these parts.

Actually this started long before YardApe's post about a couple HJ places in Mass offering exemplary services at bargain basement prices. If you were informed otherwise before getting involved here I'm afraid you were sorely misinformed.

I too was on CLR for many years, but only remember one screen name anyone (meaning probably most participating there) thought was Larry. They were IMHO pretty obvious, comical, yet informative as to who was working, who worked well together, changes in the providers' clothing and such. What I don't recall is ever seeing the screen name "MikeWilliams" or any variant on it there, or anywhere until here. The differences in language and writing style between the two are like night and day, and if you ever had a conversation with Larry I doubt you'd ever think him capable of composing the "MikeWilliams" missives we saw here.

So you're definitely confirming Nadia provides a real GFE with DFK, FIV, BBBJCIM, prolonged DATY, really sensual massage, enjoys herself and let's you know it at bargain basement rates, eh? Strange that no one on the Boston AMP forum would confirm this, and that you chose to do so here. I'd think there'd be oodles of confirmations of that, and probably a line out her door, but most all her reviews over there give no clue anything like this is available. In fact there was so little of any consequence written that you wrote a note there October 29th of last year looking for intel on her.

IAC don't be a stranger. Pop in anytime!

Allegations about Mikewilliams88? Try facts about him and his alterego fraud Larry. They're the only two sharing their identities here that I know of. YF and I actually paid a visit to NMS at the same time after visiting a Providence strip club.

Since it seems (please notice I didn't say I know) you and YF MAY be the same person then both visiting NMS at the same time should have been easy. Since no "facts" have yet come to light to prove your both the same person I guess, for the time being, we'll just leave it at that.

So you still claim you "know" MW88 and Larry are sharing identities here? You've yet to say how you actually "know" this or provided any real facts or even anything raising reasonable suspicion on which you base this allegation, although I've asked a few times. Even Admin2 in his note about it (see http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...681&viewfull=1#post2051681) admitted it was only a hunch and so couldn't take it any further than he did. At least he was honest about it.

[Deb4512]

It's more lively than Massholes ever was LOL.