"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FredMoore** · 06-16-14 17:11

Sb #1.

Has become very unreliable but she is into me for $$ so want to at least get service for what has been prepaid. I do like her and enjoy the FS for a fair dime. So I'd like to keep her if she can get her shit together.

Pot #1.

Hispanic 20+ yr old. 7/6/? Face and attitude are attractive, but a little heavy for my liking. Will try a M&G and see how values herself. If the price is right then I will give her a try.

Pot #2.

8/8/? WF 23 student. Got a cute face and ass kicking body. I have a M&G for next week. She will be in the $$+ range for a tryout. I think she might be a GPS but looks hotter than ones I have hit on lately.

Pot #3.

Is really Pot #1 in my wish list. She is mid 20's WF and is a 7. 5/8. 5/8 so far. We had to reschedule two M&Gs, one hers and one mine. She comes across as a truly nice, educated girl trying to make her way in life. And she doesn't sound like a GPS. I really hope she works out. Our date is tomorrow night. If she turns out I will drop the other 2 Pots and concentrate on her.

**Graham111** · 06-16-14 17:02

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

" So now I may have stepped in the big dodo shit pile rancid sugar bowl. She sends me a long email proclaiming her love for me and how she has never felt such passion" Deeds

2 days and 2 nights with her didn't help. This girl got an advanced course in sex therapy 101. She has a classic case of transference with that intense therapy. Since she is a good performer it is too bad that you can't manage her needs and keep her on the hook.

RE: referrals.

We know all of these babies are out for support of some kind and will evaluate each Pot SD just as we do. Therefore they are escorts in a way. They might not have the escort mentality yet, but they are selling themselves for lucre. So recognize it for what it is.

Well we know how this goes. I have the third date with SB15 tonite and getting the vibe she may be a little too enamored with me. Suspended her SD4 M account and tells me "just stay the way you are, you are wonderful). 30 YO so not her first rodeo but a very good fuck and pretty good personality. So we play with fire!. Not sure she picked up on the "Married" description in my profile. What's a guy to do?

**FredMoore** · 06-16-14 16:55

" So now I may have stepped in the big dodo shit pile rancid sugar bowl. She sends me a long email proclaiming her love for me and how she has never felt such passion" Deeds

2 days and 2 nights with her didn't help. This girl got an advanced course in sex therapy 101. She has a classic case of transference with that intense therapy. Since she is a good performer it is too bad that you can't manage her needs and keep her on the hook.

RE: referrals.

We know all of these babies are out for support of some kind and will evaluate each Pot SD just as we do. Therefore they are escorts in a way. They might not have the escort mentality yet, but they are selling themselves for lucre. So recognize it for what it is.

**DirtyDeeds38** · 06-16-14 16:11

After much convincing of SB#1 20 year old, sweet girl next door type, I went out with her again. We spent two days and nights together. The sex went from "so-so" to almost great. This is the girl who proclaimed feelings for me. The sex was a bit on the kinky side, with a night of cuddling, waking up for more sex and morning sex. We went out to breakfast and dinner the following night and had a few quickies in between. During the night, I would describe the feeling between us as one of a nice connection and closeness, but far from "love" as she later described.

So now I may have stepped in the big dodo shit pile rancid sugar bowl. She sends me a long email proclaiming her love for me and how she has never felt such passion, ecstasy, warmth and kindness from any man. She wants a certifiable relationship, one with no direct sugar involved. The email was much more indepth, but you get the idea. She told her family about me and they want to meet me. Holly hell, I think I'm in trouble. I really did nothing other then treat the girl like I would a true girlfriend. I do not want to meet the family, and I do not want a girlfriend. That aside, if your a human man, it's impossible not to care in some capacity for this girl. But we all know better.

The major blowout letdown email is being typed right now to her. I hope she goes away peacefully. Something tells me she won't.

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-16-14 15:40

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

In online dating over the last 15 years or so I've realized I can learn a lot about a girl from her profile. If they are snarky in their profile, they are almost certainly going to be a pain in the ass to deal with in person. The younger ones are more prone to this I think, because they feel that the snarkier you are on the Internet, the more clever you will be perceived as by others -- they don't realize it's only flagging them as a "disposable date" to people like me, who will tolerate it just long enough to paste them once then go dark.

There's another category of girls who may or may not be snarky in their actual profile, but will describe their own personality with words like "sassy" or "sarcastic". Again in every case I've seen this, their self assessment was revealing far more about them than they realized, and they are full-on PITAs. Maybe a good candidate for a one-time hate fuck but I'm inclined to generate a 30 day phone number on hushed then let it expire so they can't bother me afterward.

As far as referral SBs, I think it's an oxymoron. If they are willing to swap off to a new SD just because they were referred they are at best a UTR escort and not an SB in my book.

I agree, you can't refer an SB. Only utr's and pros.

**JZLizard** · 06-16-14 11:25

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

When we brothers refer girls to each other, do not tell them about the USAG blog. They can find it themselves perhaps but we don't want girls identifying us by our stories, etc. This might seem intuitive but you never know.

A common item in girls' SA profiles mentions that they are sarcastic. Am I the only guy who thinks sarcasm is a negative and a strike against the SB?

In online dating over the last 15 years or so I've realized I can learn a lot about a girl from her profile. If they are snarky in their profile, they are almost certainly going to be a pain in the ass to deal with in person. The younger ones are more prone to this I think, because they feel that the snarkier you are on the Internet, the more clever you will be perceived as by others -- they don't realize it's only flagging them as a "disposable date" to people like me, who will tolerate it just long enough to paste them once then go dark.

There's another category of girls who may or may not be snarky in their actual profile, but will describe their own personality with words like "sassy" or "sarcastic". Again in every case I've seen this, their self assessment was revealing far more about them than they realized, and they are full-on PITAs. Maybe a good candidate for a one-time hate fuck but I'm inclined to generate a 30 day phone number on hushed then let it expire so they can't bother me afterward.

As far as referral SBs, I think it's an oxymoron. If they are willing to swap off to a new SD just because they were referred they are at best a UTR escort and not an SB in my book.

**Beachesnole02** · 06-16-14 11:21

First, yes pre-paids work with the sites and you would be foolish NOT to use a pre-paid card for membership. Some of them are notorious for billing you forever.

As for the M&G I would suggest you make it a regular practice to have business lunches, even if it is just "networking" and have a certain percentage of them with the opposite sex. I know some jobs don't lend themselves to this but how do you explain your presence in a park if seen there by a neighbor taking her grandkids out to a soccer game of Fido for a walk? If you are there with a pretty young thing it is unexplainable to your SO. If you are alone and waiting, well you are a perv waiting on another guy or checking out the kiddies, again a no win.

I too live in a "small community" in a metro area, and I am recognized throughout the whole area. I do my meet and greets at nice restaurants, just like business lunches, and I tell the young lady that if someone comes up I will introduce her as. With a cover story. I have been interrupted during the meetings without issue. Just be ready act normal and don't panic.

Of course it becomes a different story if you run into a babe in the evening when you are with family / friends. I was sitting at happy hour with my buddies when the model I posted a picture of a few months ago came in with a date her own age. She waived and winked at me when he went to the restroom and that became THE topic of conversation amongst the old guys for a couple weeks. Luckily my wife never gets off work early enough to get to happy hour with the gang so she never heard the story.

Ah life in a small town.

**CaneBay** · 06-16-14 10:49

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

Any ideas about a place to M&G in a hostile home environment that is not sketchy? My home town is awfully small when it comes to meeting people out in public.

Have you looked for state or city parks. Are public, but usually quite and fun can happen. Before you try to go further then just a m / g in a park, make sure you look up police activity for that park. Some parks attract the wrong kind of attention.

**FredMoore** · 06-16-14 10:09

When we brothers refer girls to each other, do not tell them about the USAG blog. They can find it themselves perhaps but we don't want girls identifying us by our stories, etc. This might seem intuitive but you never know.

A common item in girls' SA profiles mentions that they are sarcastic. Am I the only guy who thinks sarcasm is a negative and a strike against the SB?

**FredMoore** · 06-15-14 17:39

Any ideas about a place to M&G in a hostile home environment that is not sketchy? My home town is awfully small when it comes to meeting people out in public.

**Norm Gerd** · 06-15-14 17:21

Will a pre-paid visa or mastercard work for SA or SD4 ME? The site I currently use SD (ie). Com has dried up in my area. I need a new hunting ground. Uh, er website.

Norm!

**JZLizard** · 06-15-14 15:12

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

"Are you a Naughty Princess looking for her Daddy? If so, get back to me. " something I ask most young girls in my intro letter. Maybe this shifts the focus to the more important aspects of being a princess?

My GF said she wanted me to treat her like a princess once.

I asked her which type? The ones that exist only in kids cartoons or the real life ones that are sentenced to a lifetime of charity work and community service only to die in a fiery car wreck trying to get away from gossip column photographers? She just kind of grimaced; she doesn't always appreciate my sense of humor.

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-15-14 12:39

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

Tell her she stumbled on the wrong website and send her a link to cougarlife.com. These middle aged women that don't understand the "baby" aspect of "sugar baby" crack me up.

"Are you a Naughty Princess looking for her Daddy? If so, get back to me. " something I ask most young girls in my intro letter. Maybe this shifts the focus to the more important aspects of being a princess?

**JZLizard** · 06-15-14 10:26

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think "TMLAP" should automatically mean "do not contact"?

This from an attractive 35 yo (who had those words in her profile, but I ignored it):

"I am looking to meet a nice, fun, respectful man that can treat me like a princess. I have been treating my daughter like one for the past 18 years and now I deserve the treatment. Shopping, hair and nails done, nice dinners, fun trips, money. Let me know if your still interested. ".

I wanted to ask if her daughter had a profile number yet, since she already IS a princess, but like someone said, no sense stirring up the crazies.

Tell her she stumbled on the wrong website and send her a link to cougarlife.com. These middle aged women that don't understand the "baby" aspect of "sugar baby" crack me up.

**Dsprdo** · 06-15-14 08:55

Is it just me, or does anyone else think "TMLAP" should automatically mean "do not contact"?

This from an attractive 35 yo (who had those words in her profile, but I ignored it):

"I am looking to meet a nice, fun, respectful man that can treat me like a princess. I have been treating my daughter like one for the past 18 years and now I deserve the treatment. Shopping, hair and nails done, nice dinners, fun trips, money. Let me know if your still interested. ".

I wanted to ask if her daughter had a profile number yet, since she already IS a princess, but like someone said, no sense stirring up the crazies.