Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Todd Cincy]

Let me begin by saying that this wouldn't be for me. However, I think some perspective is in order:

- We both know this happens, both in the "real world" as well as in the hobby. Let's not pretend that the post-1985 scares have made everyone exercise safe procedures 100% of the time. We all know better.

- I think Buddha adopted a policy of openness and honesty by stating the availability of this outright, and letting hobbyists make their own decisions, versus keeping it underground.

- From what I have heard, providers regularly offered BBFS in the early 1980's and prior to that. I was in high school when the AIDS issue started, so I obviously wasn't hobbying then. But even prior to the mid-1980's, there were risks, and BBFS was widely available. (Some of the older guys here may have additional perspective on this.).

- I don't look for BBFS to become the "norm" in any way. Let's not forget that there are still providers who insist on everything (including BJ) being covered.

But again, Buddha was simply being honest about something that had previously occurred behind the scenes. Buddha did not invent the concept of BBFS.

[Karmyn Bankz]

I recently made the decision to get my tits done LOL. I am happy about it but I'm scared to death at the fact of my unique nipples being stretched to the point that they don't look like little hersheys kisses anymore LOL. I know it will be super great for business but, I still have reservations. Just wanted to know what everyone thought. Thanks.

[Operator Error]

I hate to complain but I'm aggravated about a few of things and I bet I'm not the only one.

Number one, it really bugs me when a provider blatantly lies to me and I know it or later find out the truth. That is a huge turn off for me. I don't bs a provider, I expect the same respect.

Second, don't give me your sad life story or whatever, its a mood killer and frankly I don't give a damn. Life is full of disappointments and let down. Shit happens to all of us, get over it!!

I'm not a psychologist, so don't tell me your problems and I won't tell you mine.

Third, what the hell is the issue with cell phones?

Providers loosing their phones, phones not working or whatever.

Lastly, if a provider is let's say 34 years old, don't put in your ad your 19. We aren't stupid, we all know what a 19 year old or a 30 year old woman looks like. Granted some age faster than others, but come on!! I understand some guys like the young ladies, but most of those guys are looking for the real youthful look, not just a fictitious number from a earlier time in your life. Then again there are some guys that like their ladies with some maturity in years. But if a guy is looking for a 18 yo provider and your actually 28, he is going to know your full of crap or most likely he is going to know anyway.

Own your real age ladies!

I could probably come up with more but these are my biggest complaints.

Thank you, I shall now step down from my soapbox.

On another note, you guys that are looking for BBFS, if that your thing then great. But in my opinion and I understand opinions are like assholes, your out your damn minds!

I'd say you need to think with the big head and not the horny little one. Yes, I'd rather bb myself too. But not so much that I'm willing to take a chance of catching something or even dieing. And if a provider is willing to go BBFS with me, I'm out. I'm just going to assume she already has something and I'm going to pass on FS.

This hobbies is or should be about safety first and I don't think bb is being safe at all. I'm not trying to judge you on your turn ons or try to tell you what you should or shouldn't do. That's for you to decide for yourself. I am just throwing a friendly safety reminder out there. I honestly do not want anything bad to happen to any of us, including anyone who happens to be reading this.

Stay safe my friends!

[TheDaytimer]

Who fucks a guy bback or coverered and busts a nut of her own would have the smarts to syringe it out or douche it out before her next customer. That to me should be common practice to prevent sucking someone elses sperm by a guy who goes down on her. JMO.

Should be. Keep thinking that!

[PillowTalk69]

For one I would rather he posted it as he did so IF I were to see this lady, I would know that the juices my tongue were about to lick werent necessarily hers and might have belonged to some other guy who did her BB earlier in the day.

Who fucks a guy bback or coverered and busts a nut of her own would have the smarts to syringe it out or douche it out before her next customer. That to me should be common practice to prevent sucking someone elses sperm by a guy who goes down on her. JMO.

[TheDaytimer]

Seems some are upset that I posted she looks slutty and does offer BBFS. The girls tell me their menu. Its not my choice but I think its only fair of me to warn those who wouldn'twant to see a girl who offers BBFS. And I know some DO want BBFS!. B of UTR Recent post on Escort Posts.

BBFS is disgusting unsafe and any woman who works for me and does it won't work for me. It is also unsafe for the community but he is now posting it as a menu item for one of his girls Why? You change stories like babies change diapers and lie like the man inWashington Safety has nothing to do with it be YOU NEED THE MONEY so whatever they want to do is okay as long as they get dates And saying a woman appears slutty SHE WORKS FOR YOU Nice touch.

For one I would rather he posted it as he did so IF I were to see this lady, I would know that the juices my tongue were about to lick werent necessarily hers and might have belonged to some other guy who did her BB earlier in the day.

[Member #4637]

Seems some are upset that I posted she looks slutty and does offer BBFS. The girls tell me their menu. Its not my choice but I think its only fair of me to warn those who wouldn'twant to see a girl who offers BBFS. And I know some DO want BBFS!. B of UTR Recent post on Escort Posts.

BBFS is disgusting unsafe and any woman who works for me and does it won't work for me. It is also unsafe for the community but he is now posting it as a menu item for one of his girls Why? You change stories like babies change diapers and lie like the man inWashington Safety has nothing to do with it be YOU NEED THE MONEY so whatever they want to do is okay as long as they get dates And saying a woman appears slutty SHE WORKS FOR YOU Nice touch.

Consistency and honesty are a rare thing in this hobby for sure. If and when you find someone possessing these traits, please share with us! Of course, we all know one side of the equation is in it for the money and the other side is in it for the sex. That's what makes the hobby world go round.

[Utr In Ohio]

Seems some are upset that I posted she looks slutty and does offer BBFS. The girls tell me their menu. Its not my choice but I think its only fair of me to warn those who wouldn'twant to see a girl who offers BBFS. And I know some DO want BBFS!. B of UTR Recent post on Escort Posts.

BBFS is disgusting unsafe and any woman who works for me and does it won't work for me. It is also unsafe for the community but he is now posting it as a menu item for one of his girls Why? You change stories like babies change diapers and lie like the man inWashington Safety has nothing to do with it be YOU NEED THE MONEY so whatever they want to do is okay as long as they get dates And saying a woman appears slutty SHE WORKS FOR YOU Nice touch.

Thank you bro for all your help getting the word out. The extra attention is great.

Your pal + resident troll.

Buddah.

[PillowTalk69]

Seems some are upset that I posted she looks slutty and does offer BBFS. The girls tell me their menu. Its not my choice but I think its only fair of me to warn those who wouldn'twant to see a girl who offers BBFS. And I know some DO want BBFS!. B of UTR Recent post on Escort Posts.

BBFS is disgusting unsafe and any woman who works for me and does it won't work for me. It is also unsafe for the community but he is now posting it as a menu item for one of his girls Why? You change stories like babies change diapers and lie like the man inWashington Safety has nothing to do with it be YOU NEED THE MONEY so whatever they want to do is okay as long as they get dates And saying a woman appears slutty SHE WORKS FOR YOU Nice touch.

[MisforMaster]

It's been a while since I've been in town. No biggie, right?

My normal provider is out of service for a little bit. Looked on my usual suspects (BP / here / oThER) for something that would catch my eye. Found someone young, with the right look who caught my eye.

I mentioned to her in my initial text that I'm not a smoker and I'm really sensitive to the smell of cigarette smoke. Some providers are really good about this -- others, not so much.

What's normally a outcall to my hotel ended up:

12:00: Me texting her: "Let me know what time you're swinging by. ".

12:01: Her: "I'm leaving now. ".

Ok. I'll go and hop in the shower, so that I don't smell like day old nerd when she comes over.

12:30: Me: "Just hopped out of the shower, see you soon. ".

Shave, smell decent. And wait.

1:45: Her: "Call me. ".

1:46: I call her. No answer.

1:51: I call her. No answer.

1:56: I call her. No answer.

2:01: I call her. No answer.

2:01: Me: "I've tried calling. Call me whenever, I need to do some work. ".

Fast forward until 3:00. She finally calls me back, says that she's got some issue and can't make it to me. Asks if I can come out her way.

Generally speaking, incalls aren't really my thing. Between me being in a place with a high threat level, not having a decent exit strategy, or just the shit-ton of unknowns in the game, I'd rather roll the dice with someone heading my way (I've only really been stiffed once in the four or so years that I've been doing this) than me reversing the roles. I'm ok with grabbing them from their place and heading back down to my place. Anyway. I put this chick in my rental. And smoke. It's horrible.

Ultimately, I apologize for wasting her time, tell her that this just wasn't a good match for us, and return her to her place. As she's getting out, she has a bit of a spaz attack when she notices my eyes looking at her visible indications of heroin use. She's since dropped her BP ad and I didn't see her advertise on USASG. And now it's almost 4 and I'm still looking for something fun to get into.

My humble request to the ladies: If you smoke, and you have a guy who doesn't, please let him know so that he can make an informed decision as to partake. I'd joke about there being non-smoking providers (I think I only know of one who's around USASG), but, knowledge is power.

Finally, the heroin problem's gotten a fuck-ton worse since I've been in Cincinnati. I had an UTR girl who got hooked on it from CL and I refuse to see her. And while I'd love to joke around and say that I'll never see a chick who's on drugs, sometimes the coke turns a meh experience until a ball-draining cornucopia of fun (note: I didn't say meth experience). I just stay from the destruction drugs -- meth, heroin, crack -- because it generally seems like once those girls go down that road, they'll never come back unless they're in a box or behind bars (and yes, there's a funny story behind that as well; if you ever see me at a bar, ask me about the time I blew $5 K on getting a chick out of jail and how she got locked back up before the weekend was over.).

I guess this did go kind of long.

MM.

[PillowTalk69]

There's obviously a niche for men looking for BBFS from a provider. Of the providers who have discussed menus with me, many indicate they get asked for it on a regular basis. To each his own; it' not my tastes in the least. But it's good that there are women willing to provide that service to men wanting the service. You are correct about going to a professional in order to attain things unavailable at home. As for the gentleman in question, I have no experience with him or his girls but the post looks like you don't much care for him.

Good luck to anyone involved with trying this service.

I have no issue with what he advertises It is his business. What I do have issues with is any one in this who rants one way then turns around and goes against what he rants against. Most things are available in this for the right price and depending on the activity as you pointed out picking out the right persons with quality backgrounds is critical. I have no use for him as I know too much about him so his about face and bragging how he allegedly is disgusted by anyone who does BBFS and how it endangers the community then turns around and advertises it's availability after stating previously that no woman who worked for him would do so long if they did it, makes me distrust him even more. We all come on here looking for what we are not getting at home and there are a plethora of things to chose from If all our SO's, GFs, wives etc provided what is available on here these ladies would be OOB. So nice to have professional women who KNOW what a man wants and those who are willing to step up and deliver it. Nice post DM.

[Daddymonger]

Most people know what I like and I am honest about it. If a woman wants to give it and has a fine rep and good reviews I am notopposed to taking the plunge. I NEVER thought I would see the day when a local agency owner offered openly one of his ladies for BBFS on the boards when he has said on here many times how DISGUSTING and DANGEROUS it was to even do it and NONE OF HIS GIRLS WOULD EVER DO IT OR THEY WOULDN"T WORK FOR HIM. Times must be hard but then we know he NEVER LIES about anything and is / was to be admired because he WANTS TO KEEP HIS GIRLS SAFE AND HIS CLIENTS also. Glad to see you came over to the DARK SIDE or at least were / are openly honest about it instead of the BS you were shoveling to the community. Most guys on here are looking for that special lady who will provide them what they are not getting at home. BJ's are a dime a dozen, an excellent one is priceless. Just like a hot enthusiastic give it to me hard baby POA, the kind you are NOT getting at home. My hats / both are off to you sir for finally being open and honest with the community you serve. BTW Toni is one fine lady who I believe you referred to as slutty looking in your most recent post. Lots of respect there for sure.

There's obviously a niche for men looking for BBFS from a provider. Of the providers who have discussed menus with me, many indicate they get asked for it on a regular basis. To each his own; it' not my tastes in the least. But it's good that there are women willing to provide that service to men wanting the service. You are correct about going to a professional in order to attain things unavailable at home. As for the gentleman in question, I have no experience with him or his girls but the post looks like you don't much care for him.

Good luck to anyone involved with trying this service.

[PillowTalk69]

Greetings. Sweet Sarah has been on my mind lately because she sent me a pm saying she needs some new photos. She is of Sicilian heritage and could walk down the streets of Palermo and easily pass for a native. I like to describe her as exotic, erotic, sultry and somewhat mysterious. You have seen her on The Octagon before, but here's one more shot. She is one of my favorite ladies to photograph. You can see why.

You have some of the finest pussy I have EVER laid eyes on in over two decades in the hobby. You must be one of the tiredest SOBs in Memphis with the stable you have. You and A2 should be dead by now with what you two are tapping. Aw the mind wonders LOL.

[PillowTalk69]

Most people know what I like and I am honest about it. If a woman wants to give it and has a fine rep and good reviews I am notopposed to taking the plunge. I NEVER thought I would see the day when a local agency owner offered openly one of his ladies for BBFS on the boards when he has said on here many times how DISGUSTING and DANGEROUS it was to even do it and NONE OF HIS GIRLS WOULD EVER DO IT OR THEY WOULDN"T WORK FOR HIM. Times must be hard but then we know he NEVER LIES about anything and is / was to be admired because he WANTS TO KEEP HIS GIRLS SAFE AND HIS CLIENTS also. Glad to see you came over to the DARK SIDE or at least were / are openly honest about it instead of the BS you were shoveling to the community. Most guys on here are looking for that special lady who will provide them what they are not getting at home. BJ's are a dime a dozen, an excellent one is priceless. Just like a hot enthusiastic give it to me hard baby POA, the kind you are NOT getting at home. My hats / both are off to you sir for finally being open and honest with the community you serve. BTW Toni is one fine lady who I believe you referred to as slutty looking in your most recent post. Lots of respect there for sure.

[Glockman]

Greetings. Sweet Sarah has been on my mind lately because she sent me a pm saying she needs some new photos. She is of Sicilian heritage and could walk down the streets of Palermo and easily pass for a native. I like to describe her as exotic, erotic, sultry and somewhat mysterious. You have seen her on The Octagon before, but here's one more shot. She is one of my favorite ladies to photograph. You can see why.