"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[SkinJr]

Seems like most of the girls that have been responding are pros or close to it. Most are immediately sending racy photos or quoting prices.

I was really disappointed when a 4'11" spinner 28 year old finally replied but after a few texts quoted 300 gold fish for a date and she would travel.

Last night a super hot little girl finally replied to my message. Her line was that she needed 1000 up front to meet so she could purchase nice clothes for us to go out.

I've seen the 22 year old massage therapist three times now. She is a freak. I can't determine if she is a full time pro or just on the side.

I've got several that I think are legit sbs texting me. Trying to schedule meets but they are not close.

This sd role is too much work to keep track of.

Skin.

[FotoGuy1970]

Had a 23 YO respond to my CL ad looking for a submissive girl. She was a bit thicker than I would like, but since she was offering a free and submissive bang, I wasn't going to complain. She was quite willing and very eager to learn and please. Total cost = .8 for hotel and .2 for some help with her gas since she drove an hour to see me. Will probably repeat with her as I slowly try and build other options.

[HollywoodGuy]

Went and did a M&G straight to her FC. She just graduated high school with all A's and was a track star, and in her infinite wisdom has chosen the SD life as her summer job until school starts again in trhe fall. I have just been appointed teacher to a nubile 5'7' 122 lb beauty, C cups. First date scores. 8/9/9/7. I told her I would teach her as she knows so little about sex. But good natural ability. More on her next weekend. She is 18 with the ID to prove it. Total damage $.3

[HollywoodGuy]

I decided to TOFTT and picked up a sketchy little southern gal that just breezed into town. She agreed to my $ but when I got her home it was obvious she was just hoping to get lucky playin off her looks.

Now 23 she must have been a real head turner at 17. We kissed a little and I got to feel that tight body of hers, but that was all she wrote. I took her back 4 hours later and .6 lighter.

Luckily I didn't have to miss work to do it. I bet she is a mean fuck, but I doubt I'll ever get to experience that. I was surprised she didn't try to upsell me as she was an admitted pro supposedly looking for a SD. The truth is, with a few hundred+ dollars invested into some hair, nails and clothes. Plus a little dieting (these pics hide the pooch) she wouldn't be bad. By the time she left she was pretty toasted, but that didn't make her wanna put out either.

I've been doing a lot of interviewing lately and not worrying about the dollars, just to be able to meet a slew of girls.

[JZLizard]

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLpr...rnia-SugarBaby

Hit her up just to get the feedback and because she is only 10 minutes away from me. I see she is on 24/7 so usually a bad sign.

"I do not like kissing. And you tryed to talk me before on my old profile before it got deleted. You seem like you wasn't serious & playing games. I do not have time to waste. So I'll make it simple 500 per meet. We will hang out for Hrs. & sex if that's what you want.".

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Overly ambitious suggested retail price aside, this is one thing I hate about the 18-19 year olds. Their curtness / sassy attitude, their tendency to accuse us immediately of "playing games", etc. Seems like once they hit the 20-22 range, they mature a little and have had some time for the realities of life to set in. At 18-19 they just escaped from mom and dad's overwatch and have not had time to figure much out yet.

[HollywoodGuy]

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLpr...rnia-SugarBaby

Hit her up just to get the feedback and because she is only 10 minutes away from me. I see she is on 24/7 so usually a bad sign.

"I do not like kissing. And you tryed to talk me before on my old profile before it got deleted. You seem like you wasn't serious & playing games. I do not have time to waste. So I'll make it simple 500 per meet. We will hang out for Hrs. & sex if that's what you want.".

Slightly edited for easier reading.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wed and Thurs. Met a real and super cute NP. She is an AA spinner type with curves 8.5/9/8/? , college student, retail shop girl that has no clue what she is doing. She lived right near the last girl, so I went to her apt and dropped off $25 so she could take the train to my house the next day. I promised her another $100 if she made it over the next day, meaning today. Well she did show up with the promise of some kissing and petting only. I was like no problem because she is the real deal. And she did offer to fuck me with a condom for $$ (which I declined). Well when she came over I told her "I am going to take a pass on everything" and just hang out and get to know you. I told her my whole story so if she decided to try to get on the A team she would know exactly what she was in for. Partly I did this to rest up a bit as I have dates every day for the next week if I want and partly is that she is a total first timer for sure. If I get her, no one else will.

That means all BB action from a sweet young girl that"s trying to act all independent, and has a good family to support her college plans. But like all young girls has fantasies she won't admit to but the seed is planted. The next date would minimally have to be her in the nude and I would hold back on the fucking if I had to, but not hold back on anything else. After 4 hours I took her home. So either she takes the bait or I am out $.25 for trying.

Something I never ever do is negotiate, but after reading about so many other brothers efforts I thought I would give it try, especially since I don't really care if I bag her or not. The take away mentality is so important and I don't want to lose that. So anyway by the next day (Friday) we had a lot of back and forth and I now have her down to $.5 for BBFS. But before we even do that, we agreed that date # 2 would be all nude play time minus only the intercourse. All other activities would be on the menu for $. This is not a done deal. Just where we ended after some sporadic txting over a few hours. Just left it at that.

[JZLizard]

Oh, I almost forgot, they must have a toy poodle as well.

I'd bet this is the kind of thing the US "sugar babies" fantasize about.

Ain't going to happen for the US girls...just can see the culture in the States going down that road.

Thankfully Louis Vuitton handbags are a hell of a lot easier to counterfeit than poodles, and there's a practical limit on the amount of dogs she's willing to own. LOL

[Applecart]

Face is slightly angular, but the hands are what matters in this case. Full on rent a babe take out for multiple days. So real you can't believe it. Beyond GFE. Full spectrum solution to all your needs with the best Thai massage training to go along with power fucking and passion. And not too expensive when buying little gifts in the mall.

http://www.thonglormassage.com/Coco.html

[Applecart]

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[Applecart]

She's the commander of the sport fucking team. Works out of Black Pagoda in Pat Pong. Average looks, but a boat load of fun. Follow lonk to Stickmans page and scroll down to the bottom where Barbie is featured as girl of the week. She has a routine in the shower that should be patented.

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Stick...estaurants.htm

[Applecart]

For those that did not grow up or spend significant time in the US -- their culture is such that the male in the relationship is always a bit of a sugar daddy anyway, so it may just be that some of them believe that to be his role without it needing to be said.

Absolutely true. The gift giving is embedded in the culture. Especially for guys dating girls. It's normal and expected, in fact it would be a loss of face not to give a few gifts.

In its extreme forms (again) you find the real high end stunners from the KTVs who have been spotted and picked out by the mamas an for some rich guy.

He needs not a fuck buddy so much as a accessory, just like his boat slip at the yacht club, and golf course membership, though he owns no clubs.

The girl is on display to make a statement to his friends -look what I've got". The girls compete for bespoke LVIV handbags from the forth floor of the Plaza 66 LV store (minimum 10 k USD per bag). Paying for this stuff is largely done in cash where the guy whips it out of his underarm oversized man bag. They found the inches of renminbi on those automated machines that whirl and furl the money.

Beyond that, it's the iced out Rolex Dayton's that are highly sought out. Unless, of course, the hangs out more around Hong Kong in the bungalow as her home base. In which case the iced out Rolex won't do. Nope. Now you need to get her a rose gold Patek Nautilus to hang around the IFC mall as she pops a few tags at the La Perla undies store.

This is the kind of stuff that the Chinese guys do for their Er Nai girls. Plus the month allowance for them which runs around USD 3 k equivalent.

And once again, they hardly ever, if ever fuck them. It's all about having the best accessory.

Oh, I almost forgot, they must have a toy poodle as well.

I'd bet this is the kind of thing the US "sugar babies" fantasize about.

Ain't going to happen for the US girls...just can see the culture in the States going down that road.

[JZLizard]

Applecart, thanks for the tutorial. I like the idea of language centers. My ATF ATF was Korean spinner and I love them all to pieces. Most of the girls I saw in japan were spinners with that glossy black hair and respectful demeanor. Size 0-2 bodies with A / be / or see CUP tits are my thing. And she screamed her brains out when she came, at least for 2 minutes. We couldn't do Hotels because security would come running.

Ahh, the memories!

One of my best long term relationships ever was a Korean girl. She was about as far from an SB or pro as any other female I've ever met. Devout church going type. The fact I was unwilling to go to church with her on Sundays was actually one reason the relationship didn't work. Consistently amazing sex, wonderfully pleasant person to be around. One of the few women I dated that I can say I was in love with, I don't regret the break up or wish I had married her, because we talked in depth about the reasons for splitting and while it was painful we both agreed it was the right thing to do and didn't look back. I still miss her and think about her often.

[Dsprdo]

Had a M&G with the newby from SD4 M yesterday. She had told me she wasn't comfortable with intimacy right away and never brought up the subject of sugar. She has only been on the site for a few days and we met for coffee. She is a tall, slim white girl with beautiful green eyes. She was very engaging and fun to talk to-the kicker is she is a dancer. They are typically GPS, but I did not get the hard stripper nando1 vibe from her at all. She really seems to be more interested in being wined and dined a little than in cash, as again the topic never came up. I have to go out of town for a couple more weeks for work but we agreed to dinner when I get back. After I left she texted me to say she really enjoyed it and is excited about going out when I get back (I usually send that text, but didn't have time before she did). I'm not sure how things are going to go with a two week break, or if she is going to turn out to be typical dancer, but so far I've only got the cost of coffee invested and I'm willing to buy her dinner and slow play just a bit.

A tactic that has been discussed on here is driving the german car and wearing a nice watch, to give the money vibe off. I have always gone the other way, playing it down a little to manage sugar expectations. Yesterday, not knowing she was a dancer, I decided to give it a try. Sure enough, she noticed both the car and the watch. So, we'll see how that plays out. If she is going to try and bleed me for cash without delivering, then I've probably heightened her expectations. If she is looking to experience some things she can't afford on her own, and is willing to be my SB to do it, then hopefully she knows I can deliver. Either way, it'll be fun finding out!

[FredMoore]

Applecart, thanks for the tutorial. I like the idea of language centers. My ATF ATF was Korean spinner and I love them all to pieces. Most of the girls I saw in japan were spinners with that glossy black hair and respectful demeanor. Size 0-2 bodies with A / be / or see CUP tits are my thing. And she screamed her brains out when she came, at least for 2 minutes. We couldn't do Hotels because security would come running.

Ahh, the memories!