"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-11-14 15:51

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Jeez, you are making it happen. Way to go brotha. I am impressed by the same day FCs. This is all about being bold without being a douche. Women not only admire that they are turned on by it. Which is what you found with your baby with the nasty attitude. Once you stepped in the drivers seat and took charge she really got turned on and then she really had some good orgasms.

This goes for most women. And what you said about her not even knowing how to take charge, so damn true. And when the man does not lead they try to lead and it comes out just like she did, mean and clueless.

Great info keep it coming. There is gold In here brothers. Brother Jeez is on the fast track to tons of quality pussy.

Revvo.

Same day FC's are actually easier than planning ahead. Many times girls agree to my $ and the first thing they want to know is can I see them today. At that moment they are in a state of financial desperation that could end in a day or 2 and many times does. Being in a state of constantly being overbooked and overworked its not easy for me to follow through on such short notice. I have even had 9+ quality girls agree to this. And even if I do rush over or have them come over. They many times decline a repeat visit. Being able to be as spontaneous as possible definitely increases your closing rate.

**Revvo** · 03-10-14 20:22

Originally Posted by JeezLizard [View Original Post]

Boy that last line really rings home with me right now. I recently had a college girl who turned into an all-nighter, thus multiple sessions and pops. But in-between sessions things started to go sideways, and I was able to defuse and recover despite her increasing bitchiness and anger. One of the reasons it started to go bad is I guess the alcohol was putting her in the mood to test the boundaries of her dominance, and it took me a while to figure out what it would take to get things back on track, as I was having a good night physically and wanted still more sex. So a bit of tact and charm to defuse the situation, then once the anger was gone I showed a more dominant attitude than she had seen before, literally instructing her on what she was going to do to please me. Bingo... That firm side of my personality struck all the right nerves with her, this final session was the best, she was the most orgasmic during this final and more epic session than the prior ones.

Moral of the story -- always be the boss. Don't for one second let her feel she is in charge of the situation, because whether she realizes it or not, she doesn't really want to be. She also is not qualified to be.

Also some have mentioned how great it is to be their first. Only happened to me once and yes it was the best. I think I have an opportunity to do same this weekend I'm looking forward to, although I'm stopping myself from assuming the date will end in sex. So far, I've had 100% success rate with that banging them within a few hours of initial M&G but I know I'm still new at this and have not seen everything.

Jeez, you are making it happen. Way to go brotha. I am impressed by the same day FCs. This is all about being bold without being a douche. Women not only admire that they are turned on by it. Which is what you found with your baby with the nasty attitude. Once you stepped in the drivers seat and took charge she really got turned on and then she really had some good orgasms.

This goes for most women. And what you said about her not even knowing how to take charge, so damn true. And when the man does not lead they try to lead and it comes out just like she did, mean and clueless.

Great info keep it coming. There is gold In here brothers. Brother Jeez is on the fast track to tons of quality pussy.

Revvo.

**JZLizard** · 03-10-14 16:36

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Great comments. Every once in a while I need to be reminded of this point. That it is better to ask for what I want or just do it. And I have found that women like that even if they don't want to do what you are asking they will admire your leadership and willingness to push the envelope a little.

Boy that last line really rings home with me right now. I recently had a college girl who turned into an all-nighter, thus multiple sessions and pops. But in-between sessions things started to go sideways, and I was able to defuse and recover despite her increasing bitchiness and anger. One of the reasons it started to go bad is I guess the alcohol was putting her in the mood to test the boundaries of her dominance, and it took me a while to figure out what it would take to get things back on track, as I was having a good night physically and wanted still more sex. So a bit of tact and charm to defuse the situation, then once the anger was gone I showed a more dominant attitude than she had seen before, literally instructing her on what she was going to do to please me. Bingo... That firm side of my personality struck all the right nerves with her, this final session was the best, she was the most orgasmic during this final and more epic session than the prior ones.

Moral of the story -- always be the boss. Don't for one second let her feel she is in charge of the situation, because whether she realizes it or not, she doesn't really want to be. She also is not qualified to be.

Also some have mentioned how great it is to be their first. Only happened to me once and yes it was the best. I think I have an opportunity to do same this weekend I'm looking forward to, although I'm stopping myself from assuming the date will end in sex. So far, I've had 100% success rate with that banging them within a few hours of initial M&G but I know I'm still new at this and have not seen everything.

**Revvo** · 03-09-14 22:09

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

I grew up reading playboy. And I always used to think that HH was such a lucky guy. Not because he had so many girls, but because he has stated in many interviews that when it comes to sex he is strictly a plain vanilla type of guy. Just stick a pair of D's and some blond hair on an admittedly hot body and the guy is home free. And I was just gonna have to suffer because that just wasn't gonna do it for me. Even something as common today as inter racial dating was unthinkable in high school. A major factor in my moving to los angeles, where it's basically anything goes.

My tastes are far more eclectic. At 18 to about 25 I was happy to just get whatever girl fell into my lap. Even after I met my 2nd wife who was a whole lot better in bed than most of the girls I had known I still had to put away some of my fantasies and desires. At 55 I decided I was just going to get what I wanted one way or another. Now. OMG. Either the girls of today are way more experimental, freaky and what they like to call sex positive or my ability to bring it out of them has increased to the point of where I really am going to get just about anything I want out there.

And if money wasn't a factor, I would get anything and everything, anytime I wanted.

Never be afraid to ask or just go for it (as many submissive and very young girls can be shy). If one won't do it the next one will. I find a major factor in younger girls (or any girl) dating an older guy is to get freaky. They are ho hum bored with most younger guys. I,m sure I wasn't all that exciting myself back then. When they call me an animal, a perv, a sex addict or a freak, its always with a smile on their face.

And of course the real joy is knowing you are the first guy they ever did it with.

Great comments. Every once in a while I need to be reminded of this point. That it is better to ask for what I want or just do it. And I have found that women like that even if they don't want to do what you are asking they will admire your leadership and willingness to push the envelope a little.

And of course being their first is always a treat too.

Agreed.

Revvo.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-09-14 19:39

I grew up reading playboy. And I always used to think that HH was such a lucky guy. Not because he had so many girls, but because he has stated in many interviews that when it comes to sex he is strictly a plain vanilla type of guy. Just stick a pair of D's and some blond hair on an admittedly hot body and the guy is home free. And I was just gonna have to suffer because that just wasn't gonna do it for me. Even something as common today as inter racial dating was unthinkable in high school. A major factor in my moving to los angeles, where it's basically anything goes.

My tastes are far more eclectic. At 18 to about 25 I was happy to just get whatever girl fell into my lap. Even after I met my 2nd wife who was a whole lot better in bed than most of the girls I had known I still had to put away some of my fantasies and desires. At 55 I decided I was just going to get what I wanted one way or another. Now. OMG. Either the girls of today are way more experimental, freaky and what they like to call sex positive or my ability to bring it out of them has increased to the point of where I really am going to get just about anything I want out there.

And if money wasn't a factor, I would get anything and everything, anytime I wanted.

Never be afraid to ask or just go for it (as many submissive and very young girls can be shy). If one won't do it the next one will. I find a major factor in younger girls (or any girl) dating an older guy is to get freaky. They are ho hum bored with most younger guys. I,m sure I wasn't all that exciting myself back then. When they call me an animal, a perv, a sex addict or a freak, its always with a smile on their face.

And of course the real joy is knowing you are the first guy they ever did it with.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-09-14 19:22

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

My experience with jail birds, and I've had a few, is that they are always Nando 1 s. Living in hotels is another tip off and frequently they were incarcerated for prostitution or drugs. These girls are desperately poor, in great life trouble, and you would be best off avoiding them. It's easy to feel sorry for them and want to be the white knight. BTW, These residential hotels in my area charge $250 / week and do not require credit checks. Paying these girls $250 + is over the top. They will suck you dry and spit you out.

One of these I was enamored of, and put her up rent free in a rental house I have. It took me 6 mos to get her and her druggie BF out and still worried about Black Mail.

One of the reasons I have a roommate (aside from loving her. LOL) is to keep the desperate ones from thinking they are moving in. And even with her here they still try. And I will never move one into a place where my name is attached to the lease. Been there, done that, gotten burned.

**FredMoore** · 03-09-14 17:51

My experience with jail birds, and I've had a few, is that they are always Nando 1 s. Living in hotels is another tip off and frequently they were incarcerated for prostitution or drugs. These girls are desperately poor, in great life trouble, and you would be best off avoiding them. It's easy to feel sorry for them and want to be the white knight. BTW, These residential hotels in my area charge $250 / week and do not require credit checks. Paying these girls $250 + is over the top. They will suck you dry and spit you out.

One of these I was enamored of, and put her up rent free in a rental house I have. It took me 6 mos to get her and her druggie BF out and still worried about Black Mail.

Originally Posted by ChipandPutt [View Original Post]

I offered 240 but she asked for 260. But I really need to work on getting my CPO down. In retrospect, my initial offer should have been much less. I'm trying to learn from the senior members here.

Back to the Craiglist ad, most replies are going to be losers or bots. But there is an occasional gem out there. I am single and it is mentioned in my ad so that helps some too I guess. I still have dreams about the college co-ed that almost agreed to meet last summer. Not necessarily a knock-out but the cute girl next door type. I'm pretty sure that she had never had a SD and may never, but she came close. You never know.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-09-14 15:46

Originally Posted by ChipandPutt [View Original Post]

I offered 240 but she asked for 260. But I really need to work on getting my CPO down. In retrospect, my initial offer should have been much less. I'm trying to learn from the senior members here.

Back to the Craiglist ad, most replies are going to be losers or bots. But there is an occasional gem out there. I am single and it is mentioned in my ad so that helps some too I guess. I still have dreams about the college co-ed that almost agreed to meet last summer. Not necessarily a knock-out but the cute girl next door type. I'm pretty sure that she had never had a SD and may never, but she came close. You never know.

Cast a wide net. Make tons of offers at $. Get tons of rejections. But then when they agree at least you feel like you got some value.

**ChipandPutt** · 03-09-14 08:41

Originally Posted by LoudThunder [View Original Post]

Chipandputt. I am thinking of trying the Craig's list thing again. The last time I tried it just got a bunch of losers.

What was the damage for strawberry girl?

I offered 240 but she asked for 260. But I really need to work on getting my CPO down. In retrospect, my initial offer should have been much less. I'm trying to learn from the senior members here.

Back to the Craiglist ad, most replies are going to be losers or bots. But there is an occasional gem out there. I am single and it is mentioned in my ad so that helps some too I guess. I still have dreams about the college co-ed that almost agreed to meet last summer. Not necessarily a knock-out but the cute girl next door type. I'm pretty sure that she had never had a SD and may never, but she came close. You never know.

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-09-14 07:49

They don't all work out. Claims she (first pic) found a more generous SD. Probably true. My date tonite (second pic) turned down triple the $ I paid her from another guy, cuz she likes me. So never get too hung up on one girl. There is always a better one out there.

Break up girl - 7/8/7/7

Date tonite girl - 8/8/9/8

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-09-14 07:38

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

I am primarily on SA, and occasionally I get the random wink or email from a girl who is not even close to me. Demographics tend to AA, but not always. I've gotten a couple from ABQ (I live in PHX) which is close on the map but not in real time, including one today from a stunner. I generally send a polite reply, 'cause who knows?; but don't really take it seriously. I assume GPS or someone phishing for a sucker. My question is, anyone ever scooped an out of state girl at random that wasn't prohibitively expensive? If so, how did you mange the logistics?

For me I never do this. But I see many members have jobs that require travel. Girls that like to travel or a need for some anonymity that can only be achieved through a little distance... I,m sure many past posts touch on this subject.

**Dsprdo** · 03-09-14 03:09

I am primarily on SA, and occasionally I get the random wink or email from a girl who is not even close to me. Demographics tend to AA, but not always. I've gotten a couple from ABQ (I live in PHX) which is close on the map but not in real time, including one today from a stunner. I generally send a polite reply, 'cause who knows?; but don't really take it seriously. I assume GPS or someone phishing for a sucker. My question is, anyone ever scooped an out of state girl at random that wasn't prohibitively expensive? If so, how did you mange the logistics?

**HollywoodGuy** · 03-08-14 13:18

After a couple more emails. This girl pointed out to me that she is not emotionally needy in any way. For me, this is why I go the SB route. I need the emotional connection to get what I am looking for. Some good sport fucking with a random girl is all good and well, but for an ongoing relationship there has to be a real connection, even if it is more one sided. But without it I am going to lose interest eventually (usually in under 10 dates), and especially if there are any items missing from the menu.

**LoudThunder** · 03-08-14 11:12

Chipandputt. I am thinking of trying the Craig's list thing again. The last time I tried it just got a bunch of losers.

What was the damage for strawberry girl?

**LoudThunder** · 03-08-14 10:56

Revco. Sounds like you got a keeper. I just recommend you keep one or two on the line. If for some reason this one leaves you high and dry you might make get a in a hurry and make a mistake on the next one. I know. That's happened to me.