Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

I have been a provider off and on for years. I dropped off the scene when I graduated college and went into the corporate world to put my college degree to use. Only seeing people that I knew on the side. When I dropped off the scene no one that I knew was doing the BBBJ, CIM or "blow and go" specials and sure as hell not BBFS. Since showing back up on this scene, in the last year, I am finding that I am a dying breed. I'm practically being bullied (not by all) and turned away (by some) because by definition (to some) I'm not considered a true GFE because when it comes to BJ covered is as far as I will go. Which, I seriously could careless about a silly definition when it comes to my health and the health of others. However, you would be surprised at the amount of gentlemen out there who are fine with CBJ and who actually prefer it that way, with that being said when it comes to the reality of this site most of them aren't located here. I've accepted what has become the norm for others on this site as far as BBBJ, CIM, and other random acts but anyone who participates in BBFS is putting everyone at risk, everyone. I'm no saint but I do have the sense that god gave me and I tend to use it more times than not. To be clear, I have no business or opinion when it comes to the dealings of others and what they choose to do or not to do. This is my perspective and some insights from my own experiences.

CX.

Do you allow a man to DATY? If you do, do you use a dental dam? You have just as much chance of getting Chlamydia through unprotected vaginal oral sex as you do from a BBBJ. Just'askin..

[Admin2]

Is SHe code for a TV / TS or just a typo? Just wondering.

A2.

[HawaiianD]

Some people need that extra push. Some people are just IDIOTS!

Glad to see you here keepin it real!

As Samuel L Jackson said in Pulp Fiction; "Have you finished? Well allow me to retort."

As Kristi found out, if providers fuck up and double post by accident and send me a message before I mod the forum I just delete the extra one before it goes live. UTR did that because he forgot the pics, I thought I deleted it but I fucked up.

Why I changed your title to "Asshole?" You're not new, you're somebody that posts here on a regular basis and you didn't have the balls to do this with your regular name. Do you see that button on all the posts that says "Report Post?" Next time fucking use it and don't be such an asshole. I gotta pretty good idea who this is and if you don't knock it the fuck off I'm not gonna let you post about your ATF that got hit by this anymore.

Are you feeling me?

A2

[Admin2]

I know I don't have a rep here but I have seen the new rule for providers can only post 1 ad per day, if they post more than one they get banned for a week. I have seen it happen to a few already. I saw that utr in ohio posted 2 yesterday but no ban on them. Maybe it should be a 3 strike rule 1 offence a warning from A2, then a week ban, then deleted account. So how does utr get away with it and others have not? All should be treated equally.

As Samuel L Jackson said in Pulp Fiction; "Have you finished? Well allow me to retort."

As Kristi found out, if providers fuck up and double post by accident and send me a message before I mod the forum I just delete the extra one before it goes live. UTR did that because he forgot the pics, I thought I deleted it but I fucked up.

Why I changed your title to "Asshole?" You're not new, you're somebody that posts here on a regular basis and you didn't have the balls to do this with your regular name. Do you see that button on all the posts that says "Report Post?" Next time fucking use it and don't be such an asshole. I gotta pretty good idea who this is and if you don't knock it the fuck off I'm not gonna let you post about your ATF that got hit by this anymore.

Are you feeling me?

A2

[Xsuzme]

I know I don't have a rep here but I have seen the new rule for providers can only post 1 ad per day, if they post more than one they get banned for a week. I have seen it happen to a few already. I saw that utr in ohio posted 2 yesterday but no ban on them. Maybe it should be a 3 strike rule 1 offence a warning from A2, then a week ban, then deleted account. So how does utr get away with it and others have not? All should be treated equally.

[Cameron X]

I have been a provider off and on for years. I dropped off the scene when I graduated college and went into the corporate world to put my college degree to use. Only seeing people that I knew on the side. When I dropped off the scene no one that I knew was doing the BBBJ, CIM or "blow and go" specials and sure as hell not BBFS. Since showing back up on this scene, in the last year, I am finding that I am a dying breed. I'm practically being bullied (not by all) and turned away (by some) because by definition (to some) I'm not considered a true GFE because when it comes to BJ covered is as far as I will go. Which, I seriously could careless about a silly definition when it comes to my health and the health of others. However, you would be surprised at the amount of gentlemen out there who are fine with CBJ and who actually prefer it that way, with that being said when it comes to the reality of this site most of them aren't located here. I've accepted what has become the norm for others on this site as far as BBBJ, CIM, and other random acts but anyone who participates in BBFS is putting everyone at risk, everyone. I'm no saint but I do have the sense that god gave me and I tend to use it more times than not. To be clear, I have no business or opinion when it comes to the dealings of others and what they choose to do or not to do. This is my perspective and some insights from my own experiences.

CX.

[PillowTalk69]

Let me clear up a couple of things for you there bud.

#1, Sasha and the other ladies do NOT work for Buddah. It's more the other way around. The girls tell him when they can work, and what services they are open to do, and in your case, who they will not work. They pay Buddha to setup the dates according to the conditions the girls set. Buddha has his own rules as to who he is going to work with. His reputation of a quality connection has value and if he deals with girls who are less than professional, HIS reputation takes a hit.

#2, You may say, "I don't do BB on everybody.". But that is one of the craziest arguments you can have. It only takes one time to get VD. It only takes one time to get AIDS. It only takes ONE time to screw yourself up the rest of the time. If you see girls who want to take that risk, fine. You also had better prepare yourself to be marked as one with a higher risk factor. Because of that, Buddah and Sasha have pretty much made it clear that they will not deal with you.

VD or put your mouth on her pussy and get stds, ghonorrhea, etc. It only takes one time to fuck a woman the who has fucked someone you don't know to give you and STD or HIV Why knowing your provider is everything and even then you may not know the whole picture. What we do is a crap shoot for both sides and you know that so to play God and do judgement this is not the place for it. NOTHING IN this is safe and for women and men who say I am tested every? Number of days is good but health care workers will tell anyone who does this in civilian or monger life " A TEST IS ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR FIRST EXPERIENCE AFTER THE TEST" That is why clearing the playing field going in is so important but not the final answer. Women in this will say I only see two a day or that is my goal. K with that. But that is 10 to 14 a week if she is lucky. Multiple that times 52 or 50 and well you can do the math. Buddah has his rules and that is fine. His choice. But he also has had a number of ladies who have walked on him and one might see if you can find them and ask why they left. If it so good on one side of the fence he should have a boat load of ladies working for him with all he does for them. If he is straight arrow even better but in all the years in this I have never known ONE Manager who was totally clean of wrong doing. He may be the most honest I have talked to and known for over two decades but totally straight arrow NOPE. Have a good day the.

[PillowTalk69]

Pt,

Are you out of your god forbidden tiny little mind. If you think for one second that I actually Belong to somebody you're a bigger fucking idiot that I thought you were. If you don't recall correctly a while ago I went independent and absolutely hated it that's why I began to work with Buddha again. The phone calls and the PMs I got from gentlemen were absolutely ridiculous and I can't even imagine some of the things these ladies on here have to deal with. That's why "I "choose to not put my number on the board. Buddha has no say in who I give my number to and talk to outside of the hobby or within the hobby. Why the hell would I give my personal number out to people I don't even know? And I have no calls for burner phone since Buddha does all of my scheduling. He knows when I'm available And he knows who I like to see. After each New friend I make if there's a connection or not I let Budda know and based on what I tell him is whether I see my new friend again or not. I cannot honestly comprehend that you think I belong to somebody. Fucking dumb!

You're right I shouldn't assume things about you just like you shouldn't assume things about me. Buddha has never once logged on to my account and posted anything for me. Everything you read with my name next to it comes from me. You your self have said you have liked bareback, just because you don't get it from "some "providers doesn't mean you don't get it from others. You can ask any gentleman that I have ever seen, if you have the audacity to ask me for bareback I will kick you off me punch you in the fucking throat and then throw you out of my room. I will not be disrespected and a man asking me to stick their bare dick inside me is being disrespectful.

Sb.

When a lady sets her parameters they are respected always have always will be. What happens between us stays between us, the way it should be. I don't spread rumors about ladies and anyone who spreads them about me hears about it. What you choose to do is your choice and business and is as it should be. What I choose to do is mine and is as it should be. Some women can handle it on their own some can't their choice and business. I have never asked to see you or CC or Airella and won't my business and choice Mainly knowing what I know from 3 decades in this is why. He knows my likes and cuts me off his choice. Doesn't mean I would get it means his choice to deny access. Nothing wrong with that. In the time I have known a number of managers most don't care as long as the dollars keep flowing. Some do. Their choice. With all that goes on in the hobby and all the activity choices out there one activity no does not prevent men from exploring other venues with them. There is something out there for every man and women in this. Fact not fiction. I appreciate the fact you won't spread rumors nor will I.Not my style or my brothers style. We are honest and respectful always have been and will try to always be. Appreciate the response but knowing what I know from first hand conversations with certain people will stick with the independents which is my choice. Have a good day Ms Sasha and best wishes to you.

[HuntLadys29]

To quote the late great Rodney King, can't we all just get along.

[NKY747]

No one, NO ONE, is going to make me believe between BBBJ, DATY that CFS is covering all basis. It's not. I take risks like everyone else, depending on who I meet, what I know about them and through casual non-identifying info. Nobody knows who's rolling dirty.

Considering I was mongering years ago in downtown Cincinnati with nothing more than a cell phone and a city beat ad, no internet, the gamble and the stakes were extremely high to meet one on one with danger.

Had a provider in the past two months tried to offer BBBJ with a swelled up left side of her jaw. NFW that was happening. Get your face fixed, I'll stick to being hand job harry.

I have fun on both sides of the coin, mongering for specific likes / wants, plenty of fish for inbetween casual. If I was to 'trust' who's cleaner in the big picture when it comes to fun, nothing puts past me that the providers in this gamut do anything but being sloppy to the design of protecting themselves.

1 exception to bb; someone knowing their relationship to a monger knowing their history in regards to that topic. Not all of us are dipping in the dipping sauce.

[ClassASweetie]

Just wondering, not trying to make the board more complicated but what if a thread was started for this purpose only. It could be called "Been there done that" or anything else appropriate.

The purpose would not be for a review but to affirm someone is legit. Have it be two sentence max. "I saw Sydney Moore. Had a good time." Then Hopefully Sydney would reply "Thanks Fdx17. Hope to see you again.".

As long as each contributor put the other persons name in the post you could do a search on the name "Sydney Moore" and quickly come up with everyone who has seen her. Vise versa a provider could search "Fdx17" and see any provider who has acknowledged my visit.

A monger could do a search on Sydney Moore and find Fdx17 has seen her. If he is comfortable he could move on or he could then do a search on Fdx17 and find out what providers have confirmed him. Lets say he finds Natti GFE has seen him. The monger himself has seen Natti GFE thereby knowing that Sydney is probably a legit provider.

Just throwing it out there. If it makes sense it could be our version of a green dot that other Indypendant sites use. If it doesn't make sense disregard.

Fdx17.

But the problem is babe is that it's not always members that see us ladies. As then there are some that are members for yrs but have no post. And then others that are just long time readers. If someone is a member with post a simple pm with his num should be unuf for verification. I don't feel the need for refs for members with post but some ladies do. But when we get someone that we need to do a ref on because he isn't a member and the ladies won't give the ref, there are other verifications but it does become a hassle sometimes and the client or the woman may just give up and a good time may be lost. The escort reviews is really that place that you are saying we should have and that's what that thread is actually for. It's just become a little more than that. I think the whole point is with everything going on, everyone should put their differences aside to protect one another. This is a community and most of us women believe in protecting each other. I have learned who will and will not give a reference. I can say that Sinful, Summer, Silk, Sassy Sexy, Nattie, Melanie, and a few others are great for giving references. It shouldn't matter how they work or what they do, I wouldn't want anyone busted by LE. Even EC I would give a ref to even with what she said awhile ago. But that's just the way I am. I truley believe in karma and I do by best to help my fello sisters and the best I can do to make you gentlemen happy. No one is perfect and I never claim to be but I believe it's always best to help one another out.

[SashaBlack]

We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.

Pt,

Are you out of your god forbidden tiny little mind. If you think for one second that I actually Belong to somebody you're a bigger fucking idiot that I thought you were. If you don't recall correctly a while ago I went independent and absolutely hated it that's why I began to work with Buddha again. The phone calls and the PMs I got from gentlemen were absolutely ridiculous and I can't even imagine some of the things these ladies on here have to deal with. That's why "I "choose to not put my number on the board. Buddha has no say in who I give my number to and talk to outside of the hobby or within the hobby. Why the hell would I give my personal number out to people I don't even know? And I have no calls for burner phone since Buddha does all of my scheduling. He knows when I'm available And he knows who I like to see. After each New friend I make if there's a connection or not I let Budda know and based on what I tell him is whether I see my new friend again or not. I cannot honestly comprehend that you think I belong to somebody. Fucking dumb!

You're right I shouldn't assume things about you just like you shouldn't assume things about me. Buddha has never once logged on to my account and posted anything for me. Everything you read with my name next to it comes from me. You your self have said you have liked bareback, just because you don't get it from "some "providers doesn't mean you don't get it from others. You can ask any gentleman that I have ever seen, if you have the audacity to ask me for bareback I will kick you off me punch you in the fucking throat and then throw you out of my room. I will not be disrespected and a man asking me to stick their bare dick inside me is being disrespectful.

Sb.

[D Nut]

We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.

Let me clear up a couple of things for you there bud.

#1, Sasha and the other ladies do NOT work for Buddah. It's more the other way around. The girls tell him when they can work, and what services they are open to do, and in your case, who they will not work. They pay Buddha to setup the dates according to the conditions the girls set. Buddha has his own rules as to who he is going to work with. His reputation of a quality connection has value and if he deals with girls who are less than professional, HIS reputation takes a hit.

#2, You may say, "I don't do BB on everybody.". But that is one of the craziest arguments you can have. It only takes one time to get VD. It only takes one time to get AIDS. It only takes ONE time to screw yourself up the rest of the time. If you see girls who want to take that risk, fine. You also had better prepare yourself to be marked as one with a higher risk factor. Because of that, Buddah and Sasha have pretty much made it clear that they will not deal with you.

[ClassASweetie]

OK let me ad to my list I won't help disease spreading skanks who do bare back!

My choice!

First of all I don't do bareback and I am clean as a whistle and I get checked every three months. And I have papers to prove it. I am an independent provider and would never pay a dirtbag like yourself who mistreat woman if they don't bare down to him. I have no problems with your ladies but I only hope you don't treat them like this. But since so many ladies have left you lately now I can see why. Saftey is my priority and has always been my num 1 priority. You assumed that all because I associate with PT and BM that I do bareback when in fact I have never been with them sexually. I talk to them because they are true gentlemen unlike ureself. You got mad because I wouldn't take your side when it came to you and PT. Neither one of those men would ever call a lady on here a dog nor a skank. You have to think very low of women to even say that to a lady. You were the one that said if any provider needed refs or had questions to call you. You lied. You don't give references. You also said you don't get paid, that's another lie. Another thing how in the fuck do you know who does bareback unless you are fucking them yourself? So you have made assumptions and / or believing rumors. Not one of my reviews have said I do bareback and all say were CFS. So since you want to say I am drama, well no it ain't drama these are facts. My safety goes has far as no cim. Yep diseases are spread that way to. And before you can say everything you do is %100 safe, that's unrealistic. Oral uncovered, kissing, cim, things like that can spread diseases.

Every girl that works here is different and beautiful inside and out and work the way they want and the gentlemen who see us are respectful. You just showed your true colors. If anyone read all the posts going back between you and PT there are countless lies from your own mouth. You can think what you want of me but I will never let some "adviser or financial counselor" LOL get me down. I am a strong, confident, beautiful woman. And I am all about respect. God has blessed me with a great life that I am so grateful for because I am having the time of my life. I will pray that god will come into your life and help you with your needs.

[Fdx17]

Instead of complaining which provider is or isn't returning phone calls, why don't providers just acknowledge a review when one is posted, specially by a newbie? Good review or bad review, a simple, "Thank you. I had a good time too.", or a "I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. I will work on the issues you brought up." will get you more repeat business that back channeling each other.

Also, if an established provider "taps" a newbie on the shoulder, anointing him, so to speak, it alerts other people that he is a legitimate, his reviews will carry more weight with other clients.

It's the same for senior members, mentioning that they have spent time with a new girl. When a senior verifies a provider with a public review, there is less jockeying and pushing as to who will risk taking one for the team.

Arguing a review is not permitted, but a simple "thank you" is always a welcome addition. When I see a provider do that, and even acknowledge some of the problems that might have been mentioned in the review, my respect for them goes up. Natti GFE did that when people complained about the neatness of her incall; she apologized, cleaned up, and things were better.

Just wondering, not trying to make the board more complicated but what if a thread was started for this purpose only. It could be called "Been there done that" or anything else appropriate.

The purpose would not be for a review but to affirm someone is legit. Have it be two sentence max. "I saw Sydney Moore. Had a good time." Then Hopefully Sydney would reply "Thanks Fdx17. Hope to see you again.".

As long as each contributor put the other persons name in the post you could do a search on the name "Sydney Moore" and quickly come up with everyone who has seen her. Vise versa a provider could search "Fdx17" and see any provider who has acknowledged my visit.

A monger could do a search on Sydney Moore and find Fdx17 has seen her. If he is comfortable he could move on or he could then do a search on Fdx17 and find out what providers have confirmed him. Lets say he finds Natti GFE has seen him. The monger himself has seen Natti GFE thereby knowing that Sydney is probably a legit provider.

Just throwing it out there. If it makes sense it could be our version of a green dot that other Indypendant sites use. If it doesn't make sense disregard.

Fdx17.