"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Mattingly]

Hi guys. Been lurking here for a while and reading the volumes of info.

I dipped my toes into the pool a couple months ago with some success. One of my pet peeves is paying for access to any of the sugar baby sites. I have limited funds, and it just seems counter productive to use them to pay for access to one of the sites. I tried Craigslist with no success.

What I've settled on is sugardaddytoday. Seems like most of the women are real, I've had 5 M&G of which 2 led to FC dates on the next meet. Every once in a while I get a message from someone absurdly far away but other than that there's no spam, very limited fakes, and it's free with no CC required.

Was wondering why no one has ever referenced this site on these boards? Is it possible it's never been found by anyone here?

[HollywoodGuy]

My PuertoRican Tat Hottie (PRTH) , is very beautiful, 19 YO Latina, very small a bonifide spinner even in the Hollywood scale, 5'3" 103 lbs. She is tiny and so fucking cute! She is really put together well and perfectly quioffed, and very artistic looking. She is much more shy and reserved in bed. Yes I fucked her today and she has a ways to go. She genuinely seems to like me and she tells me how much she likes being with me and how safe and comfortable she feels with me. But she definitely has a ways to go in sexual part. But damn what a sweet pussy. So tight and a beautiful ass. She is officially now at a 10/9/8/6. Kinda looks like Vanessa Marcil. And I want to bring that 6 up to a 10. Does anyone of the brothers have any advice on how to improve that score? Training wise? She is too good to waste that pussy with skills at a 6. I can help her with the blowjob. But any other advice would be awesome.

When you first meet them you pray that they are gonna be little sluts, and they already are in their head. Now you just need to connect it to their body. It's called patience. You can't put a MILF in 19 year olds body (if she is a true princess), but you can enjoy the moments of being with an angel, and if you can wait, those moments will come more regularly over time. Does she just look hot or does she have raw talent? Can you wait weeks or months for improvements? Do you have enough backup while you are waiting?

[Copper Fool]

So, I have been playing in the bowl for about 4 months. I have been using CL ads to find POTs. It has been working fairly well as long as I keep the ads up. I have been contacted by well over a dozen women, probably more. Out of them, I have met with 5 POTs.

Out of them, 1 basically took me for 300, with no reward for me. That was me being stupid.

Meet one very cute 19 yo, but I could not close the deal with her. Not sure if it was the timing or she just didn't like me.

There is a 40's MILF, lots of fun, mainly in it for the sex, but was happy for the $. I still see her when I can.

Next is my ATF. She was also the first girl I met. 24 yo, latina mix, thick in the right places. She works out by pole dancing. Lots of fun. She is almost too much for me. I had to travel for work, and I was happy for the break, but I was so happy to get back to her. She is also my highest cost. At $.5, but totally worth it.

Last one is the newest, I'm calling her sweet honey. SH is a student, and working 2 or 3 jobs. So making time is a little tough, but we have done M&G and a trip to the FC. I got her on $ month allowance. Minimum 3 dates a month. I know she needs the money, and she is a lot of fun.

I have one POT in the works right now, the only problem is I have to go out of town for a few weeks. So, I will try to keep up communication while I'm gone, and hopefully close with her when I get back. She seems a little skidish, but she's still chatting with me. We will see.

Not bad for 4 months. Still need to work on getting the cost down, but I'm pretty happy for now.

[Revvo]

So I am doing this update with one of my comparisons. Very very different two women, in about every way these POTs are my Southern Sexy MILF and PuertoRican Tat Hottie. So first my Southern Sexy MILF (SSM) is older 40 YO White and kind of large but not fat I would guess around 145 lbs. Attractive, and very very sexual. She is a 7/6/8/? .

My PuertoRican Tat Hottie (PRTH) , is very beautiful, 19 YO Latina, very small a bonifide spinner even in the Hollywood scale, 5'3" 103 lbs. She is tiny and so fucking cute! She is really put together well and perfectly quioffed, and very artistic looking. She is much more shy and reserved in bed. Yes I fucked her today and she has a ways to go. She genuinely seems to like me and she tells me how much she likes being with me and how safe and comfortable she feels with me. But she definitely has a ways to go in sexual part. But damn what a sweet pussy. So tight and a beautiful ass. She is officially now at a 10/9/8/6. Kinda looks like Vanessa Marcil. And I want to bring that 6 up to a 10. Does anyone of the brothers have any advice on how to improve that score? Training wise? She is too good to waste that pussy with skills at a 6. I can help her with the blowjob. But any other advice would be awesome.

SSM is very confident in herself. Very expressive and horny minx. Knows her way around her own body and a mans cock. Not the least bit shy and quite assertive. Also kind of bossy. That last part I am not too fond of. So I am just kind of laughing at her but I may cut her loose. Don't need to deal with some woman trying to be in control of our relationship. Especially if I am paying her and she aint that good looking. LMFAO on that one. But I am giving her a chance. May not call her for a few days and see what she does.

PRTH is very quiet and almost serene. I like that. No drama. In fact I have asked her three times what she wants out of our relationship and she has been consistent. She wants fun but no drama or craziness, someone she can rely on trust and give her respect. She has never mentioned money. This was really cool. Not really trying at all to be a gold digger. But I really like her. There is a strong affinity between us already. And I know she needs the money. I like her attitude no bossiness and no bullshit. Everything she has said to me has been the truth. So I made her a decent offer she needs the money and it wasn't really high but it should keep her happy and not in a desperate state. I told her 200 per week. Visit her 1 to 2 times per week. Most likely I will not be able to see her more than once a week, just because of my schedule. And she loved it she readily agreed to it and was very happy. So off to the FC we went after lunch. And she had limited time for the first time. But that is ok. First times are usually not that great especially with 19 YO. She is the second youngest I have ever had. And it was a slow and arduous process.

She has a long way to go. I was able to get her to open up and be a little more affectionate and a better kisser by the end of the session. Blow job was pretty good. Goddamn her ass is so sweet. But it is only the beginning. And she seemed to be really happy afterwards. Told me so and how much she likes our arrangement and how much she likes me. Also she has agreed we can meet at her place after we get used to each other. So I will only have the 800 a month plus occasional eating out. And a few gifts. We are scheduled to meet again tomorrow. And I am looking forward to it. Since I am betting on her and my Italian Professional Baby as my other regular no dollar baby. I may be able to have two fine women for only 800 per month and at least two fucks a week. Which is about all I can handle. With my schedule.

You know you have to really be flexible to roll with two women as different as these two. What a contrast. I am really happy with her. Any advice to bring her out of her shell would be awesome? I heard of a game called hotspotting I am going to try with her. On a later date.

Be careful out there.

Revvo.

[Visual800]

[QUOTE=Ltnric;1969213]So I have just recently signed up to adult friend finder for one month and so far hasn't been very promising. I should mention that I tried adult friend finder a few years ago and that was also pretty disappointing but this current time around it's even more disappointing./QUOTE]


Hey Guys a hobbyist here from Down South. For the past 3 months I have been signing up for about 6 or more sites. 2 of them I dropped money on for 1 month and then deleted profile.

ashley madison
AFF
Sugardaddy4me
arrangment finders
cougar somn somn
and 1 more I forgot.

It is all bullshit. I completed all profiles honestly and thoroughly, uploaded sane pics, no nudes. On the 2 I paid for I was pounded every day with emails and this and that. once i signed up I went back to the emails and I couldnt even pull up the profiles that had messaged me and the ones I could would not reply. On all sites I could see chicks were "adding me" or "freinding me" and when I click on the who has viewed me it had none, lol. It is all bullshit and most websites belong to AFF company. I also noticed when i clicked "online" and then found a person I would go their profile and it would say not active since 2009, lol. I hate the internet

[Randytomcatt]

I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.

Been about 3 years since I tried AFF. Seemed like a lot of fake profiles mixed with some pros. Maybe different now but was not worth it to me at the time.

[Dog Rice]

Similar experience w / SS. Fortunately, I tried the 3-day trial period and I cancelled before they charge me for a full month.

SS is full of spam.

I saw your comment earlier that your were giving SS a try, so mostly out of boredom I got tricked into the signup. I used a throwaway debit card that will be depleted by the time they try to charge it again, so I'm not out much.

But there's a ton of obvious signs that there's no "there" there. I've only had "Friend" requests, which then go nowhere. I had a flurry of "friend" and "meet in person" requests before I even had a photo up, which are obvious teasers. There are a small collection of profiles with public nude photos, which really make no sense at all in the real world. Then there are the obvious professionally done photographs with too good to be true faces.

There are a bunch of somewhat legit. Looking profiles, except the geographic / demographic distribution is completely out of whack with the reality on the ground. They simply do not line up with the ratios you see on other sites. I think you have site operators who aren't doing their homework and stuffing the ballot boxes without knowing the area very well. There's one town in particular that I just assume are all fakes no matter how real they look.

Once you whittle away all that, there's very, very little left that are likely to be real.

So I may try one round of sending out messages, but mostly as an experiment with no expectations that anything will come of it.

Oh well, it's a diversion anyway.

[BigTigger]

I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.

I did AFF for years and had lots of success. I will say, it was before I was consistently banging hotties in their 20's. From what I remember, it was great. I loved chatting in the rooms and the ideas that with most you know upfront that sex is on the menu. Lots of great photos and videos. However it has been years, I say{TCS. Ellipses}give it a try.

BigTigg.

[Walruscl]

I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.

I saw your comment earlier that your were giving SS a try, so mostly out of boredom I got tricked into the signup. I used a throwaway debit card that will be depleted by the time they try to charge it again, so I'm not out much.

But there's a ton of obvious signs that there's no "there" there. I've only had "Friend" requests, which then go nowhere. I had a flurry of "friend" and "meet in person" requests before I even had a photo up, which are obvious teasers. There are a small collection of profiles with public nude photos, which really make no sense at all in the real world. Then there are the obvious professionally done photographs with too good to be true faces.

There are a bunch of somewhat legit. Looking profiles, except the geographic / demographic distribution is completely out of whack with the reality on the ground. They simply do not line up with the ratios you see on other sites. I think you have site operators who aren't doing their homework and stuffing the ballot boxes without knowing the area very well. There's one town in particular that I just assume are all fakes no matter how real they look.

Once you whittle away all that, there's very, very little left that are likely to be real.

So I may try one round of sending out messages, but mostly as an experiment with no expectations that anything will come of it.

Oh well, it's a diversion anyway.

[Spitfire]

I noticed that when I use my google voice. That it shows my local calling area to the recipient on their caller I'the.

Now this is a bit unnerving since I live in a very specific community in my large metro area. And somehow Googlevoice is now sending that out with my call. This is not the caller I'the info on my real phone. But it is when calling through google voice.

Has anyone else encountered this? You may want to check.

Also is there anyway to change what your googlevoice sends out on its caller I'the?

Thanks,

Revvo.

When you signed up for Google Voice, did you select an area code and number that is local to you? When I signed up I selected an area code far away from me. That geographical area has always shown up on Caller Identification.

[Ltnric]

I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.

So I have just recently signed up to adult friend finder for one month and so far hasn't been very promising. I should mention that I tried adult friend finder a few years ago and that was also pretty disappointing but this current time around it's even more disappointing.

The biggest problem that I see is that there are a lot of old profiles that are on there. In other words profiles where user has not logged on in over three months. Also there doesn't seem to be a lot of good looking women, they tend to be a lot older in other words over 45 and fat. I live in Richmond so I can only speak to my area.

[Revvo]

I noticed that when I use my google voice. That it shows my local calling area to the recipient on their caller I'the.

Now this is a bit unnerving since I live in a very specific community in my large metro area. And somehow Googlevoice is now sending that out with my call. This is not the caller I'the info on my real phone. But it is when calling through google voice.

Has anyone else encountered this? You may want to check.

Also is there anyway to change what your googlevoice sends out on its caller I'the?

Thanks,

Revvo.

[Revvo]

I haven't pulled the trigger on Socialsex but I did create an account and even though I have no pictres nor written anything I am getting tons of emails. I think this site is 100% bullshit. I mean even the pictures look fake. IMHO I would stay away but that is just me.

I would not recommend it. I bought the membership and I have gotten some legitimate emails from real people. Verified by talking with them and from one chick that I actually did a M&G from SDforme. So I know she is real. However there is a lot of bullshit and what I have heard them call catfish? Do not spend the money.

I got engaged into an email exchange with a totally fake person and will not do that again. What a waste of my time. Do not send them money. You have been warned. There are real people but too much bullshit to wade through. And I do not have the time.

I am now thinking of trying AdultFriendFinder. I have been told it is by far the best hookup site. I have a free do nothing membership and may pull the trigger on a one month membership. Anyone out there try AFF? If so please give us your reports.

I am sharing the results of my money and my very valuable time. To tell you what I am getting. I would sure like to hear from some other brave souls out there.

Remember our failures are just or more important than our successes.

Revvo.

[ICantGetNo]

Hey guys,

A "dumb" question if I might. I see according to the dictionary that " is $100, as in Ben Franklin. Ok so what is $.4 and similar notations? If that's a decimal point in there, then it should equal $40, or is it $400? Depending on how you look at it either some of use are getting a great bargain, or the SB's are getting away with the loot. Please explain.

On a Happy New Year note, I spent part of the evening with my ATF SB and rang in the new year with a smile on my face. Neither of us are young'ins, and as a geezer. Bowl-er, I can't keep up with some of our wilder members with the 20 year olds, but it's all good to me. My MILF POT flaked on me over the holidays but were still texting and hope to meet soon. It's a bit of a drive so logistics play into it also.

Wishing everyone success in 2014.

K. dawg.

At least in my part of town, the $ represents $100. Your example would be $.40 = 140.
$$ = 200. $$$.5 = 350.

[KrustyDawg7]

Hey guys,

A "dumb" question if I might. I see according to the dictionary that " is $100, as in Ben Franklin. Ok so what is $.4 and similar notations? If that's a decimal point in there, then it should equal $40, or is it $400? Depending on how you look at it either some of use are getting a great bargain, or the SB's are getting away with the loot. Please explain.

On a Happy New Year note, I spent part of the evening with my ATF SB and rang in the new year with a smile on my face. Neither of us are young'ins, and as a geezer. Bowl-er, I can't keep up with some of our wilder members with the 20 year olds, but it's all good to me. My MILF POT flaked on me over the holidays but were still texting and hope to meet soon. It's a bit of a drive so logistics play into it also.

Wishing everyone success in 2014.

K. dawg.