Massage Parlor Reports

[Satya]

i'm an attorney. police cannot stop and detain you, walking out of a building or while driving, unless there is a reasonable suspicion you have engaged in criminal activity (this is called a terry stop). like anyone else in public, they can ask you questions. in massachusetts, you are not required to identify yourself to police upon their request. if you are actually detained, the police can ask incriminating questions of you without mirandizing you (reading you your constitutional rights), though your answers and any information your answers lead to (fruit of the poisonous tree), can and will be excluded from evidence at trial. scotus has weakened miranda laws over the last few years.

if you are stopped by a police officer for any reason, remember this:

1. be polite. it will make the entire encounter easier for everyone.

2. ask if you are being detained. if you are not. if you reasonably feel you are free to walk away. wish the officer a nice day and walk away.

3. if you are being detained, see rule #1. don't fight. you're outnumbered and outgunned. you'll almost never win and your resistance will be used against you.

4. if you are detained and questioned, whether you are mirandized or not, invoke your fifth and sixth amendment rights to silence and to have an attorney present during questioning. do not think you can talk your way out of anything. these guys interrogate for a living. they know all the tricks. just keep your mouth shut.

5. do not think, no matter how nice they're being, that if you cooperate they will go easy on you. a police officer's job is to arrest people who violate the law, gather evidence against them, and assist in their prosecution. they do not have the power to make deals, though how you act towards police may be considered by the prosecutor. deals are the province of the district attorney's office. let your lawyer do all the talking and negotiating.

6. unless you're trafficking or pimping, someone's ****, or you've beat up a girl, crimes in this hobby are usually misdemeanors and difficult to prove. fines, probation, and embarrassment are what you're most likely facing.

my $.02.

thank you very much.

[HowardSprague]

i'm an attorney. police cannot stop and detain you, walking out of a building or while driving, unless there is a reasonable suspicion you have engaged in criminal activity (this is called a terry stop). like anyone else in public, they can ask you questions. in massachusetts, you are not required to identify yourself to police upon their request. if you are actually detained, the police can ask incriminating questions of you without mirandizing you (reading you your constitutional rights), though your answers and any information your answers lead to (fruit of the poisonous tree), can and will be excluded from evidence at trial. scotus has weakened miranda laws over the last few years.

if you are stopped by a police officer for any reason, remember this:

1. be polite. it will make the entire encounter easier for everyone.

2. ask if you are being detained. if you are not. if you reasonably feel you are free to walk away. wish the officer a nice day and walk away.

3. if you are being detained, see rule #1. don't fight. you're outnumbered and outgunned. you'll almost never win and your resistance will be used against you.

4. if you are detained and questioned, whether you are mirandized or not, invoke your fifth and sixth amendment rights to silence and to have an attorney present during questioning. do not think you can talk your way out of anything. these guys interrogate for a living. they know all the tricks. just keep your mouth shut.

5. do not think, no matter how nice they're being, that if you cooperate they will go easy on you. a police officer's job is to arrest people who violate the law, gather evidence against them, and assist in their prosecution. they do not have the power to make deals, though how you act towards police may be considered by the prosecutor. deals are the province of the district attorney's office. let your lawyer do all the talking and negotiating.

6. unless you're trafficking or pimping, someone's ****, or you've beat up a girl, crimes in this hobby are usually misdemeanors and difficult to prove. fines, probation, and embarrassment are what you're most likely facing.

my $.02.

[HappyDave]

Hate to burst your bubble but "YES" they need a reason for stopping you from coming out of this business or any other business. They need probable cause that you did or about to do something wrong. If you come out of Walmart can they stop and question you? The answer is "NO" unless they have probable cause. If it is a case that they are working on you do not have to answer.

If you walk out of a known or suspected drug den or had your head stuck in the window of the car of a known or suspected drug dealer. They have a reasonable suspition to stop you and talk to you. You must identify yourself if asked, you should not be asked any self incriminating questions without your rights read. You cannot be stopped out of the blue just walking around, you can be stopped just driving around that's a privilage. You can be talked to in a general way and see how your story matches up. Most likely there just turning the heat up on the place. If they want to bust the place they will just send in an under cover cop or two and that will be it. In short, if they have reasonable suspition you were in a house of prostitution they can stop you, you do not have to answer other than to identify yourself. You start talking about your experience inside and they ask three different ways and the story's don't match up. Then you have a problem.

[SlowMo]

You can console yourself in the knowledge that your tale is pretty high in entertainment value for the rest of us. Thanks for sharing.

I had the day of yesterday with nothing left to do and I'm always looking for a new spa. Saw an ad for Barefoot Bodyworks in Middleton. The ad sounded good so I took the 45 minute drive, only to fid out that this place is not new at all, it's Kangle and I've read nothing but mediocre to bad reports about it. I pulled in to the parking lot, and to be honest, it looked interesting, 3 cars in the lot. I was tempted but it was still early in the day so I headed out to Boston, remembering an ad for a place that I thought was worth checking out. Put what I thought was the address in my gps and ended up at a vacant lot. I should have put Tremont St in but instead put Temple St. At this point traffic was getting heavy so I figured I'll head back toward home and go to a spa on the way. Called Brook in Marlboro and was told to come in at 4 pm, perfect time, when I was 10 minutes away I got a call from Brook saying she was told to close at 4. She was very appologetic and said another time. As I was about to give up, I saw a sign for Creek, so turned in and they were stil open. An older unattractive woman of at least 50, probably older took my money and in I went, hoping she was the mamason. Nope, she was the one. She was cooking something that smelled so bad I had to breath lightly. She must have been eating when I came in because she burped loudly a few times. Actually gave a good massage but not at all what I had planned for the day. Even if it was offerred, a HE was not going to happen with her.

[Smoke Screen]

I had the day of yesterday with nothing left to do and I'm always looking for a new spa. Saw an ad for Barefoot Bodyworks in Middleton. The ad sounded good so I took the 45 minute drive, only to fid out that this place is not new at all, it's Kangle and I've read nothing but mediocre to bad reports about it. I pulled in to the parking lot, and to be honest, it looked interesting, 3 cars in the lot. I was tempted but it was still early in the day so I headed out to Boston, remembering an ad for a place that I thought was worth checking out. Put what I thought was the address in my gps and ended up at a vacant lot. I should have put Tremont St in but instead put Temple St. At this point traffic was getting heavy so I figured I'll head back toward home and go to a spa on the way. Called Brook in Marlboro and was told to come in at 4 pm, perfect time, when I was 10 minutes away I got a call from Brook saying she was told to close at 4. She was very appologetic and said another time. As I was about to give up, I saw a sign for Creek, so turned in and they were stil open. An older unattractive woman of at least 50, probably older took my money and in I went, hoping she was the mamason. Nope, she was the one. She was cooking something that smelled so bad I had to breath lightly. She must have been eating when I came in because she burped loudly a few times. Actually gave a good massage but not at all what I had planned for the day. Even if it was offerred, a HE was not going to happen with her.

[Amp Slave]

Hey Slave, clear you box. Reading your report my first impression was that this spot had some potential. But based on your PM to me this place is not good. We need to let the crowd know to avoid it.

Stay warm,

BH.

Boxed cleared now.

[Big Head]

In Quincy Friday afternoon for business and decided to stop by this place which is just off Newport / Brook. Seen ad on CL and made the apt for noon. Met Ann who is an older 45 plus woman. Good massage and at the end got a HE. .5 for massage and .4 for HE standard. YMMV on this place which is tucked in off street.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/thp/4255526878.html

Hey Slave, clear you box. Reading your report my first impression was that this spot had some potential. But based on your PM to me this place is not good. We need to let the crowd know to avoid it.

Stay warm,

BH.

[Amp Slave]

Seriously, is there anything you guys can't argue about?

Can we pretty, pretty please get back to talking about pussy now?

A2

Sorry about that. Just having conversation. LOL Have a Merry Christmas and happy hunting. Stay safe everyone.

[Admin2]

Seriously, is there anything you guys can't argue about?

Can we pretty, pretty please get back to talking about pussy now?

A2

I am not going to go into a legal debate with you but it is the business of the police to know what is going on on their beat and to do so they ask questions. Perhaps they want to know who you are and if asked you must tell them. I don't know about your state but here the police can hold a person for 72 hours for questioning without pressing a charge. So for the last time they can ask you questions but you are not legally bound to answer them. Google it.

Hate to burst your bubble but "YES" they need a reason for stopping you from coming out of this business or any other business. They need probable cause that you did or about to do something wrong. If you come out of Walmart can they stop and question you? The answer is "NO" unless they have probable cause. If it is a case that they are working on you do not have to answer.

They don't need a strong reason nor is there ant reason we have to tell them anything other than our name. This is still America, at least for now.

Not sure what their justification in stopping anyone who exits these businesses are. Did they stop the mailman, FEDEX guy etc. The need a strong reason to stop anyone and then to question someone that has done nothing wrong is a violation I believe. Lawsuit maybe? Seriously what if you need a massage from medical reasons?

[Satya]

Hate to burst your bubble but "YES" they need a reason for stopping you from coming out of this business or any other business. They need probable cause that you did or about to do something wrong. If you come out of Walmart can they stop and question you? The answer is "NO" unless they have probable cause. If it is a case that they are working on you do not have to answer.

I am not going to go into a legal debate with you but it is the business of the police to know what is going on on their beat and to do so they ask questions. Perhaps they want to know who you are and if asked you must tell them. I don't know about your state but here the police can hold a person for 72 hours for questioning without pressing a charge. So for the last time they can ask you questions but you are not legally bound to answer them. Google it.

[Amp Slave]

They don't need a strong reason nor is there ant reason we have to tell them anything other than our name. This is still America, at least for now.

Hate to burst your bubble but "YES" they need a reason for stopping you from coming out of this business or any other business. They need probable cause that you did or about to do something wrong. If you come out of Walmart can they stop and question you? The answer is "NO" unless they have probable cause. If it is a case that they are working on you do not have to answer.

[Satya]

Not sure what their justification in stopping anyone who exits these businesses are. Did they stop the mailman, FEDEX guy etc. The need a strong reason to stop anyone and then to question someone that has done nothing wrong is a violation I believe. Lawsuit maybe? Seriously what if you need a massage from medical reasons?

They don't need a strong reason nor is there ant reason we have to tell them anything other than our name. This is still America, at least for now.

[Amp Slave]

In Quincy Friday afternoon for business and decided to stop by this place which is just off Newport / Brook. Seen ad on CL and made the apt for noon. Met Ann who is an older 45 plus woman. Good massage and at the end got a HE. .5 for massage and .4 for HE standard. YMMV on this place which is tucked in off street.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/thp/4255526878.html

[Spaz2580]

LEO can ask. And you can simply not answer or just say you had a massage and nothing else. Just a bodyrub, massage or therapy. They may try and scare you into answering questions, etc. But you don't have to answer.

Not sure what their justification in stopping anyone who exits these businesses are. Did they stop the mailman, FEDEX guy etc. The need a strong reason to stop anyone and then to question someone that has done nothing wrong is a violation I believe. Lawsuit maybe? Seriously what if you need a massage from medical reasons?

[Amp Slave]

I just confirmed this with a Framingham AMP. She said her customers were being questioned when leaving.

Not sure what their justification in stopping anyone who exits these businesses are. Did they stop the mailman, FEDEX guy etc. The need a strong reason to stop anyone and then to question someone that has done nothing wrong is a violation I believe. Lawsuit maybe? Seriously what if you need a massage from medical reasons?