Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**AboutTimeNow** · 12-15-13 11:12

Originally Posted by PhatDaty [View Original Post]

I quoted the wrong person. Duh!!!

Sorry DG, and thanks for correcting that SD.

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Anyway, Dawn has great advice she could teach a class on this if it were socially acceptable. Sadly, this most recent heart felt wisdom it comes from her recent encounter with one of our resident douchebags. In other words to all providers, don't fall for these tire kickers that are trying manipulate gals into cheap or extra service by blacklisting etc.

We are not supposed to make physical threats, but I swear some of these scumbags could use a soap party by the rest of us that actually enjoy this hobby minus the misogyny.

I know I can be given to Harlequin romance reviews when a lady rocks my world, and can also be brutally honest if let down, but generally just try to state my perspective and go to somebody else. This haggling for a better rate over bad reviews or harassment is bullshit.

If you didn't have a good time, be factual, but then move the fuck along. Also, stop trying to expect a Jaguar for the price of a Ford.

I started this fine hobby, a couple years ago and Dawn was one of the providers I saw first, when I had minimal references. Needless to say She rocked my world, I have been chasing that same connection since then and have missed her. Like the 70's and 80's, when I was chasing that next high, I am still looking and have not found many to compare to her. I saw her a couple of times and those are still in the top three experiences I have had. A class act, supporting her family and as I suspect am not alone, I would be proud to have her on my girlfriend, let alone as a provider. I think many of us forget that, even though this is a business, this is truly a gift, in my eyes, to share an experience like she delivers. If you've truly walked up those steps, holding her hand, enough said! I am in sales and anyone that is in sales will attest, there are always deadbeats, wanting something for nothing. I do enjoy immense pleasure, punishing them, when I land one and extract every cent I can, as a deadbeat tax, if you will. While Dawn is not in this position, because she is sharing a very personal gift, not selling you a time share, I would hope that we can weed out these mooches and let them post on the streetwalker thread. I travel extensively and do not have the time or pleasure of seeing her now, but after reading these posts, that as stated by many before me, I call bullshit on these clowns and the fact that she has to defend herself, pisses me off. I wish nothing but the best for these ladies, as I relax at night, reading this reports, planning my next encounter, I hope that the few gentleman that feel the need to muck it up for the rest of us, just fade away, drive down those streets. I only wish Dawn the best and hope she doesn't have to deal with too many of these losers. Happy Holidays.

**Varoom** · 12-13-13 17:21

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

Maybe I'll resume at some point later on when I'm older and really have no chance at a hot 23 year-old, LOL. But for now, I'm thinking it's over and out.

Stay safe, one and all.

UOnlyLiveOnce.

As I was reading your current tender of this [temporary] resignation I said to myself, "he is just too young to be mongering yet". Then I came across the line above and this confirmed same. LOL To: UOLO, Life is all about timing and you aren't quiting, the timing is merely not right for you at this point in time. Just wait, wait for the time when things wain in your home relationship, or you look in that mirror and don't recognize that old man staring back at you, and-or you need to have that time with that 23 yo then, or you name it ???; you'll be back. This hobby is not necessarily about hobbying because you can, it is about hobbying to fulfill a specific need or needs. You merely don't have a strong enough need at this time, but you may say the same as Ah-nold, who has said before: "I'll be baaaack". Good luck on your furlough and enjoy life to the fullest in the mean time.

**Upullandpay** · 12-13-13 15:37

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

I mentioned in Escort Reviews that I'm retiring from the hobby for a while, perhaps for good. Like I said there, please note it has nothing to do with either of the providers I just reviewed there. So don't hold anything I say against them.

I'm retiring because it's just gotten to be too much. It's too much money for my budget, and it's way too much mental energy as far as worrying about Uncle LEO, STDs, the wife finding out, a provider possibly going crazy, and so on.

This site has been a godsend as far as the great info that's posted here. Many, many thanks to the forum moderators and to all the mongers who provided info publicly and privately. If it hadn't been for this site, I'm sure I would have been ripped off or something by now. But it's still too much mental energy to remain in the hobby at this point.

Maybe I'll resume at some point later on when I'm older and really have no chance at a hot 23 year-old, LOL. But for now, I'm thinking it's over and out.

Stay safe, one and all.

UOnlyLiveOnce.

I have quite several times myself for one reason or another! The hobby is not going anywhere!! It will be here when your ready!

**UOnlyLiveOnce** · 12-13-13 14:48

I mentioned in Escort Reviews that I'm retiring from the hobby for a while, perhaps for good. Like I said there, please note it has nothing to do with either of the providers I just reviewed there. So don't hold anything I say against them.

I'm retiring because it's just gotten to be too much. It's too much money for my budget, and it's way too much mental energy as far as worrying about Uncle LEO, STDs, the wife finding out, a provider possibly going crazy, and so on.

This site has been a godsend as far as the great info that's posted here. Many, many thanks to the forum moderators and to all the mongers who provided info publicly and privately. If it hadn't been for this site, I'm sure I would have been ripped off or something by now. But it's still too much mental energy to remain in the hobby at this point.

Maybe I'll resume at some point later on when I'm older and really have no chance at a hot 23 year-old, LOL. But for now, I'm thinking it's over and out.

Stay safe, one and all.

UOnlyLiveOnce.

**PhatDaty** · 12-13-13 10:36

I quoted the wrong person. Duh!!!

Sorry DG, and thanks for correcting that SD.

Originally Posted by SinfulDreams [View Original Post]

PD Daddysgirl is a Provider. Not a client. Dawn was offering some solid advice.

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Anyway, Dawn has great advice she could teach a class on this if it were socially acceptable. Sadly, this most recent heart felt wisdom it comes from her recent encounter with one of our resident douchebags. In other words to all providers, don't fall for these tire kickers that are trying manipulate gals into cheap or extra service by blacklisting etc.

We are not supposed to make physical threats, but I swear some of these scumbags could use a soap party by the rest of us that actually enjoy this hobby minus the misogyny.

I know I can be given to Harlequin romance reviews when a lady rocks my world, and can also be brutally honest if let down, but generally just try to state my perspective and go to somebody else. This haggling for a better rate over bad reviews or harassment is bullshit.

If you didn't have a good time, be factual, but then move the fuck along. Also, stop trying to expect a Jaguar for the price of a Ford.

**Jay Malibu** · 12-13-13 07:04

You can be sure that if a less-than-spectacular review of Dawn were to show up here or anywhere it would be viewed with great suspicion on the part of all of the experienced and long-time hobbyists that know Dawn. I have come to sincerely respect Dawn's worldly life perspective that belies a very sweet and caring sincerity that is rarely found anywhere. I used to visit Dawn regularly before my work took me where it is not as easy to see providers in the area. I have no other relationship with Dawn and don't care to gain anything by writing this. Just suffice it to say that Dawn is a stand-up, responsible person taking on incredible responsibilities with grace and caring that few could. She has my respect and admiration. I know for sure that I am not alone in this opinion so expect to hear more, of that I'm sure.

JM.

**Member #4637** · 12-13-13 06:01

I have only been a member for a relatively short time, but I have to say that some of the crap I hear from providers and see posted here on this site are just appauling. Membership should come with standards and expectations of honesty and fairness.

For any member to threaten a provider with false negative reviews in order to extort services at a discount or for free are scum bags and should be blacklisted by the providers.

Ladies, if I ever did anything that vile and disgusting, I would hope you all would put me on the "do not answer" list and cut me off. I hope you'll do the same for the douchbags out there who abuse their membership here and try to treat you as less than the people you are. You put up with a lot of crap day in and day out, and you sure don't need assholes threatening you or ruining your reputations.

Be safe. Be kind.

**SilkyWetness** · 12-13-13 00:04

Originally Posted by Bucks97 [View Original Post]

Really folks, beating up Dawn and trying to extract a lower rate with a threat of a negative review or comment on here is pretty low, in addition to being stupid. I don't see her because she requires references and I don't do that, but I have no doubt that she's a great provider. No one is going to believe whatever review this guy would post anyway.

I also see no reason to believe Daddysgirl69 was posting fake reviews on her behalf in this particular case. Just not seeing it. I do see HuntLadys29 with what seems to be a massive chip on his shoulder trying to pick a fight and BigBird69 being gracious enough to try to diffuse it.

There are plenty of questionable reviews on here, and the motivations of guys scrounging for discounts or references or trashing providers who didn't give them deals they want has caused me to dismiss a growing amount of reviews and intel on here. I'll do whatever I can to call BS on these when I know better, and hope others will too.

Exactly and its just not cool at all some guys believe because they are a senior member and threaten a bad review that they can bully us however they want now I'm not saying all senior members are that way in fact 97 percent of the seniors on this board are very sweet and generous for the other 3 percent they abuse their title and just act like very unpleasant guys bullying is never cool especially when as providers were nice enough to deal with half the crap were dealt and do it with a smile on our faces I personally know dawn and she's always been a sweetheart to me she has in fact like most providers given me advice and tips which have gotten me where I am today and I thank each and everyone of you ladies for that to the guys please don't take our kindness for a weakness if you don't agree with our service or donation go look elsewhere theirs plenty of other providers you can haggle I personally and I'm sure other girls will agree don't have time for it treat us girls with kindness and you will receive the same in return its also Christmas and sometimes we just need help that's no reason to pm or put up reviews that are bogus because you didn't get your way stay sweet dawn we could use more ladies like you in this world big kisses Silk.

**Bucks97** · 12-12-13 23:05

Really folks, beating up Dawn and trying to extract a lower rate with a threat of a negative review or comment on here is pretty low, in addition to being stupid. I don't see her because she requires references and I don't do that, but I have no doubt that she's a great provider. No one is going to believe whatever review this guy would post anyway.

I also see no reason to believe Daddysgirl69 was posting fake reviews on her behalf in this particular case. Just not seeing it. I do see HuntLadys29 with what seems to be a massive chip on his shoulder trying to pick a fight and BigBird69 being gracious enough to try to diffuse it.

There are plenty of questionable reviews on here, and the motivations of guys scrounging for discounts or references or trashing providers who didn't give them deals they want has caused me to dismiss a growing amount of reviews and intel on here. I'll do whatever I can to call BS on these when I know better, and hope others will too.

**PhatDaty** · 12-12-13 20:35

Originally Posted by DeliciousDawn [View Original Post]

Honey,

If you haven't realized yet, you soon will, this is a cut throat business. Some, providers and hobbyists, are out for themselves and will say, do anything to get more clients, or a lower rate, even stoop to hurting other people in the process. They do not care about your feelings, how sweet you are, how nice you are, etc. Do not trust many. Believe nothing. Smile about everything. .

Most of the time, you will learn, that it is best to not even reply. Time will make it go away, and the ones who know you, know how you are and they will keep coming back to see you, as long as you are good to them.

Do not gossip, believe no one is your friend. Take the negativity and grow from it, learn from it. Everyday, we all learn something new. Just be the best that you can be and be you. That's all that you can do.

When people kick you, say nasty remarks to you, call you names, it's just their way of dealing with how they really feel about themselves. Smile, because they're really dissatisfied with their home, their wife, their own being. Not you. When some douche says silly remarks to me, trying his / her best to get a rise out of me, I laugh. LOL. I do, because they cannot get to me. Why? Because they're no one to me and so their opinion is of no concern to me. I have too many people to care about instead of them. I merely hope that they realize how nasty they are when someone talks to their mother, daughter, wife or niece the way they speak to us. Maybe then they will realize how nasty of a person they are inside and change their ways. Maybe they never will. Either way, I could care less. I worry about me, my children and my family. That's it. Nothing else matters. Just believe that and smile, no one will get to you when you do that. Let them rant, rave and storm about their home cursing you out and steam flowing out of their ears while you're smiling, making money and living your life, not giving them a thought, because they don't deserve it. That pisses them off the most, trust me. They want you to remember them, be memorable, don't give them that.

A little P.S.ychology 101.

Happy Holidays,

Daddy's Girl.

Originally Posted by DaddysGirl69 [View Original Post]

Wow...all of these posts have me so confused, and not quite sure why people are saying what they are, its confusing and pretty hurtful to say the most. I AM a REAL down to earth laid back chick that hates drama. I don't have any other accounts and definitely don't need to write fake reviews about myself. I just don't get Why all of this is being said about me I'm a very sweet, loving woman an I just don't understand why there things are being said about me.

DG69,

If you book a session with Delicious Dawn and she does not rock your world leave half her fee and I will pay her double the next time she fucks my brains out.

**Delicious Dawn** · 12-12-13 00:12

Honey,

If you haven't realized yet, you soon will, this is a cut throat business. Some, providers and hobbyists, are out for themselves and will say, do anything to get more clients, or a lower rate, even stoop to hurting other people in the process. They do not care about your feelings, how sweet you are, how nice you are, etc. Do not trust many. Believe nothing. Smile about everything. .

Most of the time, you will learn, that it is best to not even reply. Time will make it go away, and the ones who know you, know how you are and they will keep coming back to see you, as long as you are good to them.

Do not gossip, believe no one is your friend. Take the negativity and grow from it, learn from it. Everyday, we all learn something new. Just be the best that you can be and be you. That's all that you can do.

When people kick you, say nasty remarks to you, call you names, it's just their way of dealing with how they really feel about themselves. Smile, because they're really dissatisfied with their home, their wife, their own being. Not you. When some douche says silly remarks to me, trying his / her best to get a rise out of me, I laugh. LOL. I do, because they cannot get to me. Why? Because they're no one to me and so their opinion is of no concern to me. I have too many people to care about instead of them. I merely hope that they realize how nasty they are when someone talks to their mother, daughter, wife or niece the way they speak to us. Maybe then they will realize how nasty of a person they are inside and change their ways. Maybe they never will. Either way, I could care less. I worry about me, my children and my family. That's it. Nothing else matters. Just believe that and smile, no one will get to you when you do that. Let them rant, rave and storm about their home cursing you out and steam flowing out of their ears while you're smiling, making money and living your life, not giving them a thought, because they don't deserve it. That pisses them off the most, trust me. They want you to remember them, be memorable, don't give them that.

A little P.S.ychology 101.

Happy Holidays,

Daddy's Girl.

Originally Posted by DaddysGirl69 [View Original Post]

Wow...all of these posts have me so confused, and not quite sure why people are saying what they are, its confusing and pretty hurtful to say the most. I AM a REAL down to earth laid back chick that hates drama. I don't have any other accounts and definitely don't need to write fake reviews about myself. I just don't get Why all of this is being said about me I'm a very sweet, loving woman an I just don't understand why there things are being said about me.

**HuntLadys29** · 12-11-13 16:37

Originally Posted by BigBird69 [View Original Post]

I'll invite you only IF you bring a cool gift. No tacky ass kitchen appliance!

So DaddysGirl69, are we eloping or waiting for a nice spring wedding? She'll probably say never because I'm old enough to be her daddy ;-)

-BigBird69

I'm a cheap SOB I'D probably buy a sheet set or some wine glasses from the Family Dollar. Glad to see you have a sense of humor Bigbird. Be safe dude I'm out.

**Member #4570** · 12-11-13 13:55

I'll invite you only IF you bring a cool gift. No tacky ass kitchen appliance!

So DaddysGirl69, are we eloping or waiting for a nice spring wedding? She'll probably say never because I'm old enough to be her daddy ;-)

-BigBird69

Originally Posted by HuntLadys29 [View Original Post]

... I promise I won't bring her self promoting ass up again if you invite me to the wedding, seriously man I promise. So are you guys having a winter wedding or are you waiting till the spring? ....

**PhatDaty** · 12-11-13 11:26

Dawn sweetie, don't waste any more emotional energy on such an asshole. He is nothing but a tire kicker. Don't worry. Most of the rest of us know that not only are you one of the best providers in this region, but given my travels across multiple states, one the best damn hot little ladies I have ever encountered.

Period.

Keep your chin up, and have a great holiday.

I will be out to see you soon, as I am sure the other gents in the know will be too. Your rates are more than fair, and the service has been well documented.

The next time this douche tries to haggle with you, if you even take his calls, tell him to go find some street walker and a dark alley and he can get a toothless blow job in the front seat of his car for twenty bucks and a sack of White Castles. If he needs multiple pops, I hear Armor All now makes a small pack of wipes that comes in a pack you can put in your glove box. That way he can wipe his dash and steering wheel off, of course given the behavior you describe, he is probably one of those dirty bastards that likes sitting in his own crust for days.

--PD.

Originally Posted by DeliciousDawn [View Original Post]

Do you go to Walmart and complain to the manger that milk isn't a $1.25 anymore?

I used to be very active here, until a few months ago. I became tired of the people contacting me wanting to see me for $60 a half, $100 an hour, etc. I became tired of the girls fighting to have the lowest rates and the men sitting back laughing at them. I became tired of the haggling, the disrespect, etc.

I am a real sweetheart, I am... I am a big believer in you treat people how you want to be treated. I have grown up within the last few years and I have matured a lot. I have become better at being more patient, I have learned to not get so upset and to definitely not reply to a boy while mad. It never does either party any good.

I grew up being picked on, bullied and have sense learned to stand up for myself, defend myself. Never do I allow someone to walk all over me, bully me or threaten me. I have zero tolerance for it.

Last evening I received a pm from someone who described his appointment with me months ago as less than satisfactory. That's fine. We all won't have the same experience, we won't all be pleased. However, When he began to fabricate and lie and try to bully me, is when I decided to post this.

When someone shows up with a bad attitude, I try my best to deal with it, get past it and do my job. Not everyone is nice to me and obviously I expect to run into a few that quickly get added to my DNS list. I also realize that maybe, just maybe, they had a bad day and they sometimes deserve a second chance. When I am at fault, I admit to it and try to learn from it. I may have a perfect ass, but I am far from perfect myself.

I have not had an hour appt when I have continuously left the room for 25-30 minutes at a time, as this person claims. Never. He wouldn't have stayed to put up with it and he would've been complaining on the board the next day. Just like your review of me years ago, stating that I told you I do not allow multiple pops during a half hour, was fabricated. You claim that my attitude is horrible and you haven't been happy. You claim that I was only charging $160/ hr and have now raised my rate to $180/ hr. No, this time last year, I was 200/ hr. I sometimes run a special, but that's all that was. My rates have stayed around the 200 mark for a long time.

The holidays are supposed to be happy! Why, why are there certain people content on dragging a provider through the mud when she won't give in to his request of " see me for 40 minutes, allow multiple pops, charge me $120 " or else I put a fabricated review up on the board?! That behavior is SO childish, and definitely not the behavior of a gentleman! I won't see you, especially after receiving those pm's that you sent to me. Heck no! You have officially been added to my DNS list. Yesterday you talked smack about another provider, today me. Why? Do you feel better? Do you feel more like a man? Let me tell you something, I would never see you, much less ever take anything you say with seriousness! You have shown to me that when you do not get your way, you lie, you threaten to put your " negative experience " on the board for all to see, knowing we cannot rebute.

I am not replying to anyone who disrespects me, who doesn't treat me like a lady, who haggles, who can't be nice. Simple as that. If I am out of your price range, move on. There are plenty within your range. Bullying me is not the way to go. Saying negative things about me is not the way to go. I pity you. I truly do. I hope that whatever is causing you such unhappiness inside is addressed soon and gets better.

To all of the ladies, do NOT put up with this type of behavior. When you do, they will just do it again and again.

Just because they have a senior status next to their handle, doesn't make them a nice man. Some use it to their advantage, as power.

To everyone else, happy holidays!

Don't forget the kids who are going without this season. I adopted a kid for Christmas, I hope others can too. It makes one feel SOO good inside. Giving trees are located at Walmart, etc.

Everyone stay warm.

Delicious Dawn.

**Delicious Dawn** · 12-11-13 10:25

Sin,

Thank you.

I have learned a lot, both from providers and hobbyists, some good, some bad, some I used to have respect for that now I wouldn't throw a bone to. I know who does and says stuff. I know who the brown nosers are and who pretends to be my " friend ". Please. I don't have time for them. Unlike some, my life is different than what it was 6 months ago. Why? Because I wanted to be a better person and feel better inside. I am almost there! LOL. I have never, and will never, be an ass kisser, a brown noser nor someone to take crap when I feel it is unwarranted.

I am still around, I just decided to not mess with some people here anymore. Not that all are bad seeds, because all are not, but most are. I am one who thinks like this. If they don't like me, well they can kiss my ass because I can guarantee them that I am not losing any sleep over their opinion of me. I am me, that's all I can be.

Once upon a time, I was in the group who spoke out against you, my fault for listening to people who I thought were on my side. Seems they like talking about me and spreading nonsense regarding me as well, and they have a hard time being honest. I am truly sorry, as I told you. I will text you after I go replace my phone. I had it shut off due to it being unlocatable. Again.

Just ignore the losers, they will eventually grow bored, find someone else to pick on or snort another pill / shoot up heroine and their limbs will fall off from krokidile. You wouldn't believe how many texts I get asking to trade services for dope! Shame on them. I start lecturing them at that point! LOL.

You are smart. The SMARTEST business provider in this area. I will admit that. They could learn a thing or two from you. That's why they are threatened. Jealousy is evil. Desperation is pathetic.

Yes, let's get together for Christmas.

I may be donating half of my liver to my mom, as long as I am a match, she is very ill but it will not be until after the beginning of the year.

In a few months, I will have a surprise for all. I am being honest too! They will then have plenty to talk about.

Take care,

Dawn

Originally Posted by SinfulDreams [View Original Post]

Dawn honey I have always been so fond of you. Yes we have had our differences, but glad we are able to work those out, as I have learned quite a lot from you. I hope in turn I have helped you out some as well. I have haters of course, but to be it's just more publicity, and obviously I am doing something right, or my name wouldn't keep coming out of their mouth. To the one that thinks I don't know what they are up to, I am very aware of it, and it will get you nowhere, so I suggest keeping your opinions and things that you call facts to yourself. Nobody is perfect on this board or anywhere, and never will be. I am sure everyone has skeletons in their closet. Yes I have made mistakes, and I am a much better person because of it.

I do consider myself a more upscale provider, and of course I put Dawn into that category as well. There is another one that posts on this board that I have been conversing with back and forth that is getting right up there as well. But what do you know some of the other ones told her I am not reference friendly, and I don't play well with others. Hmmm I guess more haters. I don't have a problem with giving references as long as I know who you are, and I have actually seen you. Yes there are guys who make up things to try to get an appt, go figure. I have been told by clients that providers will tell them my photos are photo shopped, ummm that I will try to make you exclusive?? WTF Honey I want you to get as much variety as possible, because if not you would have a wife or girlfriend that you would see all the time. The purpose of the provider is to "provide" a way out, or another means of excitement, for just that moment, or however long it lasts. I have regulars since I have started and I am very thankful for that.

I would like to have a Christmas get together for the girls, bury all the hatchets, and be what we are supposed to be...grown adult women, and stop all this hatred. We are supposed to help each other, not hurt each other. So a restaurant in the area, and enjoy each others company. Is that too much to ask?

Oh and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!! I love each and every one of you all.