Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[BuyingSmiles]

Since you want to quote me and tell my humor and IQ suck, I'll bite:

Your report had ZERO intel.

So you determined that goons weren't attached to her. Cool, whether they were hers or not, you still should've said which provider has a potentially cruddy neighborhood. If the provider isn't going to tell us for obvious reasons, then the men who travel should. She lives in that and wants clients, it's still on her. That's why I don't see some of the boards providers or do incall in general.

Secondly, your "witty joke" menu and restaurant? I had zero idea it existed. That's cause it's region specific to you. Get better at scheduling women and maybe you won't have to search out obscure greasy spoons on a Sunday morning. I can quote Teak, PHC, Lin's menus if you'd like.

I would like to hear a review of the menus. Just in case I get stood up again on a Sunday morning. I hope they have Greek, I always enjoyed watching the girls in the back toss the salad.

Have a great day Mr. Gringo.

[MassageFreak]

Im sure i come across as a dickhead on here but any provider who has seen me sees how i really am. Nice, charming, respectful and never make a meeting about the obvious.I really am flattered when a provider shows jealousy. I think it's a huge ego boost. But when they show jealousy only regarding money and it's obvious that bugs me. We all want it to be more than just an arrangement. Thats what a GFE is there for and We all would like this with any of these beautiful women that post here. But it's rare that would happen on a truly normal basis. So therefore we must enter into a mutual agreement of consenting adults with boundaries. MF.

That you have to make this post. Ladies, the guys are here for variety.- if they want to see only you, then they would divorce their wives / gfs and ask for your hand in marriage...

But, I feel that the only way to stop this kind of behavior is a public shaming by naming the provider. It does let other men know that the provider gets 'clingy', gets jealous, etc.

This deals directly with the safety of our male members.- what if this provider decides to seek revenge, because you saw someone else? What if she decides to call your work, your wife, your family? What if she starts blackmailing you into only seeing her? What if she threatens to blacklist you because you saw someone else instead of her?

Unacceptable. Simply Unacceptable. Hopefully this isn't being done by a provider who claims she is elite, upscale, and highly reviewed...

[HelpMeRhonda]

That you have to make this post. Ladies, the guys are here for variety.- if they want to see only you, then they would divorce their wives / gfs and ask for your hand in marriage...

But, I feel that the only way to stop this kind of behavior is a public shaming by naming the provider. It does let other men know that the provider gets 'clingy', gets jealous, etc.

This deals directly with the safety of our male members.- what if this provider decides to seek revenge, because you saw someone else? What if she decides to call your work, your wife, your family? What if she starts blackmailing you into only seeing her? What if she threatens to blacklist you because you saw someone else instead of her?

Unacceptable. Simply Unacceptable. Hopefully this isn't being done by a provider who claims she is elite, upscale, and highly reviewed...

Took the words right out of my mouth Molly, I couldn't have said it better!

[Glockman]

Greetings from a member of the Honorary Cincinnati Mongers' Society, this is my favorite six footer Amanda. When she puts on her heels, she towers over me. Saw her about three hour ago and got her usual warm welcome. We are in for some cold weather (by our standards) so she checked me over and drained my radiator. Got every last drop! I am now winterized and ready for anything. Took lots of photos, here is one of the more tasteful ones. I say tasteful because one of the local providers wanted me to photograph her, but insisted that the photos be tasteful. Whatever that means.

[ClassASweetie]

I'm not looking for any favors. I'm telling a provider to calm down on the jealousy.

This is crazy shit here going on. This is a freakin business and a hobby not a dam dating service. Providers should have no problem giving a reference. These me make this happen for us and if a provider wants to be in this business, you can't get hooked just as the client shouldn't get hooked. It's very rare anything good comes from letting your heart into someone else's. Most of these men are married, why would any provider not give a reference exspecially because your jealous. Come on, these men don't belong to us. That is why there is such a variety because they want to see who they want. I have had problems in the past with getting refs from other providers because they don't want there client going elsewhere. Guess what? They ain't your man. My partner and I live together and there is no jealousy or problems with us and no problems with myself giving anyone a ref that I have seen. Other than my partner, silk and SD are the only other two providers that have been consistent with responding back with refs. I haven't of course asked every provider on here for refs so not speaking for all but let's be real ladies. All because they see you once twice or twenty doesn't mean they should see you and only you for now on. That's why there is variety. Just my two cents. Just tired of ladies not givin refs and hearing of it too when I rarely ask for refs anyway. Ok my rants over.

[SilkyWetness]

I'm not looking for any favors. I'm telling a provider to calm down on the jealousy.

I'm actually pretty sure I know who your talking about and you are absolutely right to have brought it here in this forum. Its not only bad for business but it makes you look desperate and not as succesful as you claim to be on every board within the USA. That kind of behavior is toxic and I believe if pushed far enough said provider would use what info she keeps in her records against anyone that didn't comply. Plus it gives the providers a bad name so much so that guys become jaded and think at some point that we all will become possessive. Guys don't call us because they see a potential relationship or future wife, they call us to itch an scratch they can't get relieved at home. Its the Baskin Robins of sex nobody is going to go into Baskin Robins 31 times and get the same flavor. Variety is the spice of life and while I'm partial to chocolate ice cream sometimes I just want cherrry cordial or strawberry cheesecake.

[SashaBlack]

And Whodeyman is back!

Wdm.

Welcome back.

[Smokey Gringo]

Since you want to quote me and tell my humor and IQ suck, I'll bite:

Your report had ZERO intel.

So you determined that goons weren't attached to her. Cool, whether they were hers or not, you still should've said which provider has a potentially cruddy neighborhood. If the provider isn't going to tell us for obvious reasons, then the men who travel should. She lives in that and wants clients, it's still on her. That's why I don't see some of the boards providers or do incall in general.

Secondly, your "witty joke" menu and restaurant? I had zero idea it existed. That's cause it's region specific to you. Get better at scheduling women and maybe you won't have to search out obscure greasy spoons on a Sunday morning. I can quote Teak, PHC, Lin's menus if you'd like.

[MassageFreak]

Bwahahahahaha 2 jokes in one! That's funny shit right there! MF.

I found it very helpful in that I now have a new restaurant to try. I think I will be starting a new thread soon.

[MollyDaniels]

That you have to make this post. Ladies, the guys are here for variety.- if they want to see only you, then they would divorce their wives / gfs and ask for your hand in marriage...

But, I feel that the only way to stop this kind of behavior is a public shaming by naming the provider. It does let other men know that the provider gets 'clingy', gets jealous, etc.

This deals directly with the safety of our male members.- what if this provider decides to seek revenge, because you saw someone else? What if she decides to call your work, your wife, your family? What if she starts blackmailing you into only seeing her? What if she threatens to blacklist you because you saw someone else instead of her?

Unacceptable. Simply Unacceptable. Hopefully this isn't being done by a provider who claims she is elite, upscale, and highly reviewed...

Please allow me to get something off of my chest. I will not name this provider, although she knows who she is. This is not said with anger, but you need to read this, and re-read it if necessary, because I suspect I am not alone in this happening, or feeling this way.

We are not dating. We are not even "friends with benefits." This is a business arrangement. I pay for a service that you are providing, just like I would for a plumber, a doctor, a mechanic or any number of other occupations. I can be friends with those people, too, and even enjoy their company. But the main attraction from them is the level of service they provide for me, and if I decide to take my car to a different mechanic, I don't expect the first one to watch my every move and call me on it when they find out. Nor do I expect them to call my friendship into question if I hire a different plumber for a certain job. That's business, and as the customer, it is my prerogative on what store I shop at.

If you'd still like to be friends, I am not the one who has closed that door. Otherwise, you have mistaken a business arrangement that has the added benefit of a friendship for something completely different and outside of the boundaries of what we do here. It's your call.

I trust we won't have to have this conversation again.

[Member #4570]

Or if it were me, I would look at it like I was such a stud that she couldn't stand being without me! .

In all seriousness, good luck with your situation.

-BigBird69.

I'm not looking for any favors. I'm telling a provider to calm down on the jealousy.

[Bearcatstyle]

I for one found Buying Smiles report to be very entertaining. He did offer some great intel, maybe not the particular info some were after but intel none the less. It shows how a well set up meeting could go wrong in a big hurry. Something we should all think about and be careful. It also shows how one should handle themselves when writing a report, careful not to burn a good provider without getting the rest of the story. It's never good to write a report until you've had a chance to process the whole situation. You wouldn't want someone trashing your reputation over a misunderstanding. I believe he did the right thing in not naming names and waiting for the dust to settle. Remember YMMV applies to intel also. Just my $.02.

I found it very helpful in that I now have a new restaurant to try. I think I will be starting a new thread soon.

[MainStreet]

I for one found Buying Smiles report to be very entertaining. He did offer some great intel, maybe not the particular info some were after but intel none the less. It shows how a well set up meeting could go wrong in a big hurry. Something we should all think about and be careful. It also shows how one should handle themselves when writing a report, careful not to burn a good provider without getting the rest of the story. It's never good to write a report until you've had a chance to process the whole situation. You wouldn't want someone trashing your reputation over a misunderstanding. I believe he did the right thing in not naming names and waiting for the dust to settle. Remember YMMV applies to intel also. Just my $.02.

So exactly what the fuck Is this? I echo responses that this post is useless. And who was the provider in question? The reason to be here is to share quality and accurate intel, not to withhold names to allow others to have the same fucked up experience. Even not so great intel is still useful intel to your fellow mongers. To save face you should divulge all info. MF.

[WordSmithFour]

One key one is that it's in Rants and Raves, so it's not taking up space in a review section. But it appears to be along the lines of SingleDad513 implying "if you don't give me what I want I'm going to tell on you." It's a perfectly reasonable stance, but one that's best made in a private conversation. It's a step above getting a new handle to trash a provider who's doing something you don't like.

While I was willing to cut BuyingSmiles some slack for being new, apparently, and because of the circumstances and also at this point because it seems kind of obvious who he was talking about because she raised her hand. But I think it was a mistake for me to encourage this sort of thing at all.

I'm not looking for any favors. I'm telling a provider to calm down on the jealousy.

[BigMack]

Men need to trust each other for good intell just as women do. We need to support one another to keep the boards safe. Most important, we need to clean out the time wasters, the druggies, the sleepers, those who don't keep appointments without a good reason and without giving forewarnings. Most of all we men need to quit seeing ladies with drug habits, failure to follow up, and those who turn on men and territorial in their treatment of other ladies and men. It is ludicrous when any client reads another clients review who states the lady he saw had tracks over her body, appeared out of it or under the influence, mechanical and not really into it, or gives a 15 minute appointment but charges for and hour, but these same men will go back to see her again because she was hot and gave a good blow job and was okay in bed. REALLY? Okay for a $ plus and hour When I first got into this one of the most respected men on the boards had a saying that holds true even today. Take out the trash and what you have left is the good that we all seek out and want to see. Post reviews and be honest but not compromisingly honest. We all know there are some things ladies will do that they don't want known so DISCRETION is the key. PM is also a good way to distribute information but get rid of the druggies, cash and dashers, ladies with thugs and pimps who come out no where to put on the pressure. Just my 02 cents worth.