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  1. #7253

    Capital on Church

    So paid a visit to Capital. Usually see Jenni, used to see Eva, and I get Coco, the new Coco. It's a CMP, and Coco is a little thick, hair is bleached, and she has no massage skills. Then she starts the coughing, and it's a deep gurgerly cough, blowing nose a couple times in the 90 minutes. I have to tell her how to massage. She goes right to my weak point, the backdoor, and I splooge right there. So we flip, she cleans up, but then starts trying to get me off again. That's not going to happen, I try to tell her but there seems to be a language barrier. Here's the kicker. While doing a little chest massage, she leans over and kisses me on the lips. I practically gag, and grab for the towel to wipe that disease off. WTF was she thinking, pass her crud to me? Totally grossed out. I hit the bathroom and luckily there's germ / alcohol bottle and I try to kill the bacteria. More good news, another monger comes into front area while I was still in room, I wait to come out ...and they lead him right into my room, and it isn't even cleaned yet!

    Scrap this dump from your list. They are giving CMPs a bad name. It's still .1 per minute (normal CMP pricing) and I tipped .4, and also told Jenni that Coco was horrible. I've been chewing Vitamin see all day.

  2. #7252

    Tatiana massage

    Went to visit this young lady off of curiosity. She is the girl in the pic, and gives massages out of her townhouse in Manassas. Massage was just ok, and ending was average. I would not repeat for her rates.

    http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/th...le-23/12652936

    Stay safe.

  3. #7251

    Swan

    The lady is Korean in 30's, so-so face but nice body. TS for 10 minutes, massage for 15 minutes and standard NOVA ending. Too greedy and expensive. Total damage is 1.5. With that money, I can have better treatment at somewhere else. Will not repeat.

  4. #7250

    Wisdom from a Senior

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    When you go to a legit massage parlor, most therapists I've talked to say they make a percentage of the massage fee + tips. At an AMP, the ladies rely mostly or entirely on tips. From her perspective, she lost at least $10 by taking care of a legit customer when she could have taken care of someone looking for HE massage. My guess is that she expects around $40 from each of her customers (although she may try to get more, as many do). From an exertion point of view, it's probably more difficult to give a longer legit massage than a shorter one with HE. Although it does happen occasionally, she's generally not expecting someone to come in for anything less than a "happy" massage. Of course, she could certainly have handled it better, but your expectations and hers were clearly out of sync.

    Personally, I never go into a place I know does HE massage unless that's what I'm looking for. That way there's no chance of having an incident such as you experienced. Besides, other than having the table shower experience (which I understand is a nice extra) most HE places don't give as good a massage as a legit therapist and they're more expensive. I have a list of regular legit therapists I visit when I just need a good massage.
    Everyone should bookmark JS's post and send it to newbies who ask questions about tipping. JS is spot-on. If you develop an ATF (someone whom you have gotten to know well over time) likely she will be happy to provide a legit massage with the TS and if she is an ATF, likely you'll meet her expectations for gratuity (and all will be happy). Your difficulty came from the disconnect between what you wanted and what she was expecting to provide. Regrettably I've found no "truly-legit" provider who also has a TS (shame because a good TS is worth the price of admission all on its own). So, like others I have an LMT when what I want is a massage (and if we believe the brother mongers, some LMTs also provide other relief, but I've not met any), and when I want a TS and massage I go to an AMP where my expectations are usually met.

    So it was for me last week when I had an appt with my LMT on Monday and an appt with a nearby AMP on Friday. And at both locations, I left happy because all our expectations were met. So it was for me.- but as in all things.

    YMMC Alot.

  5. #7249

    Legit massage

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    When you go to a legit massage parlor, most therapists I've talked to say they make a percentage of the massage fee + tips. At an AMP, the ladies rely mostly or entirely on tips. From her perspective, she lost at least $10 by taking care of a legit customer when she could have taken care of someone looking for HE massage. My guess is that she expects around $40 from each of her customers (although she may try to get more, as many do). From an exertion point of view, it's probably more difficult to give a longer legit massage than a shorter one with HE. Although it does happen occasionally, she's generally not expecting someone to come in for anything less than a "happy" massage. Of course, she could certainly have handled it better, but your expectations and hers were clearly out of sync.

    Personally, I never go into a place I know does HE massage unless that's what I'm looking for. That way there's no chance of having an incident such as you experienced. Besides, other than having the table shower experience (which I understand is a nice extra) most HE places don't give as good a massage as a legit therapist and they're more expensive. I have a list of regular legit therapists I visit when I just need a good massage.
    Following up on JS, take a look on Groupon. There are always lots of good deals for legit massage, and some of them are even Asian. Like he said, then you are not going to have an issue if you tip 20 (on top of the Groupon 40).. They'll be happy, and no "beetchiness".

  6. #7248
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Just a thought

    Quote Originally Posted by CourtesanLover  [View Original Post]
    I have been out the massage scene for a long time now, nearly a year. So I am curious to know if things have changed in NOVA or was this chick just a greedy, ungrateful beetch. The bad part is I can't remember her name for sure, but I think it was Susie. Now I went in knowing that I actually was only looking for a massage and not even a happy ending. The TS was decent even though she did not really pay attention to boys, but hey I only came for the massage. Anyway the massage was thorough and decent, followed by the feathery touching and flip. She asked if I wanted her to take care of me pointing at my boy, I said no I am good, so she proceeded to massage the front minus the boy. Feeling relaxed and refreshed I tipped 0.3 and this beetch had the audacity to ask "Is this it?" I was like yes you did not do anything extra, and then she escorted me out. Am I wrong to tip 0.3 for a massage without any release or attempted release? Is it that bad in Nova now that they expect 0.4 whether they earn it or not? Anyway won't be back there for NOVA or non-NOVA finish.

    "Stay thirsty my friends".
    When you go to a legit massage parlor, most therapists I've talked to say they make a percentage of the massage fee + tips. At an AMP, the ladies rely mostly or entirely on tips. From her perspective, she lost at least $10 by taking care of a legit customer when she could have taken care of someone looking for HE massage. My guess is that she expects around $40 from each of her customers (although she may try to get more, as many do). From an exertion point of view, it's probably more difficult to give a longer legit massage than a shorter one with HE. Although it does happen occasionally, she's generally not expecting someone to come in for anything less than a "happy" massage. Of course, she could certainly have handled it better, but your expectations and hers were clearly out of sync.

    Personally, I never go into a place I know does HE massage unless that's what I'm looking for. That way there's no chance of having an incident such as you experienced. Besides, other than having the table shower experience (which I understand is a nice extra) most HE places don't give as good a massage as a legit therapist and they're more expensive. I have a list of regular legit therapists I visit when I just need a good massage.

  7. #7247

    BKY therapy

    I have been out the massage scene for a long time now, nearly a year. So I am curious to know if things have changed in NOVA or was this chick just a greedy, ungrateful beetch. The bad part is I can't remember her name for sure, but I think it was Susie. Now I went in knowing that I actually was only looking for a massage and not even a happy ending. The TS was decent even though she did not really pay attention to boys, but hey I only came for the massage. Anyway the massage was thorough and decent, followed by the feathery touching and flip. She asked if I wanted her to take care of me pointing at my boy, I said no I am good, so she proceeded to massage the front minus the boy. Feeling relaxed and refreshed I tipped 0.3 and this beetch had the audacity to ask "Is this it?" I was like yes you did not do anything extra, and then she escorted me out. Am I wrong to tip 0.3 for a massage without any release or attempted release? Is it that bad in Nova now that they expect 0.4 whether they earn it or not? Anyway won't be back there for NOVA or non-NOVA finish.

    "Stay thirsty my friends".

  8. #7246

    Blue

    I stopped by blue today. There's not much for the renovations, and it's under new mgt. Standard rates, standard service, and I would rate this as average to barely above average service.

  9. #7245

    CAMPing at the Capital

    Needed to quench my sudden urge for Chinese food and headed to a local see-AMP spot in Loudoun, right off of 28, in a little strip mall. You can hear the hootin' and hollerin' going on next door in the barbershop, for those that know which spot I'm talking about. It's the new "capital" location. I drew "Mishelle". Good massage to get out the kinks and nice slow technique for the basic / standard menu around here. I was hoping to draw Ginny, with her big rack and rear but I think she arrived after I had started my session. Just a quick spot that I sometimes go to for a cheap quick bite to eat of Chinese. No drama compared to the K-AMP locations.

  10. #7244

    New Massage in F-Burg

    Quote Originally Posted by GolfMan57  [View Original Post]
    I see there is a new place in Fredericksburg, on Rt 3 in the shopping center with Gold's Gym. Has anyone tried it yet? If not, might have to TOFT and report back.

    Thanks.
    I have been eyeing the new place too. I decided to TOFTT and try it.

    As I walked towards the new spot, I have to admit that it felt weird being in a strip center. I felt like the other businesses just gave me that suspicious eye. Anyways, they were having work done in the place. I saw the guy working through the window. He was also right in front of the door. I rang the bell and nothing happened. As I walked away, the door opened quickly and out popped a decent (not model looks by any means) younger lady saying that they are open. I walked back and when I enter, I see her, another lady (typical AMP looking for the area), and 1 lady that looks like mamasan / we just stole her out of the old folks home and she is just hanging out. Oh yea, the Asian guy doing work in the joint. So I ask for the hour, and is taken back to a good sized room with curtains on the doorway. There are doors to close, but for my first visit it was curtains only. I ended up having the older typical looking provider and I got bummed but thought hey, it's my first time and I will lay the ground work. They do advertise a table shower and when I went to the bathroom, I walked right by it. There was stuff on the table and it looked out of service for the time. When I got back to the room, I realized the provider I have barely understood English or made it seem like she didn't understand. I asked for the table shower 3 times and each time she looked at me like I was speaking jibberish. STRIKE 1. She kept trying to lay me down on the table for the massage. So once again, even though I am annoyed, I remind myself that I am laying ground work. I then proceed to make some small talk and get her name, ask if they have good business and such and she just ignored me until I popped my head up and asked if she could hear me and of course the response "I no good at engrish" Okay, at least acknowledge me talking to you. STRIKE 2. And the she kept massaging me over a towel.

    Let me explain that I try my hardest to let them know that I am here for a reason. I am not a cop and if I talk to you I am not trying to grill you. I make sure I stand naked when she walks in the room, during the table shower I flirt. I try to show that am playful and I always intiate the moves.

    At this point I just lay there waiting for the massage to be over when I noticed that the towel slowly gets moved aside without it being replaced. Now I feel like there might be more to this massage. I spread my legs more, and let mr. Happy poke out say Hello,. I get the brush by here and there. This is the only time I feel like we are on the same page. After a couple minutes of playful strokes I flip over and she smiles and proceeds to milk me. I am able to roam OTC and I slid my hand between the legs OTC. At first she was tight and didn't really move her legs, she didn't move my hand away, she just kept her legs together. I did my magic dialing 3 knuckle shuffle and next thing I know she spreads and is grinding the hell out of my hand. Her breaths are getting heavy and that makes me getting stiffer. She didn't climax, although I think she might have but she stopped after I popped and went to get a towel.

    Overall, YMMV. I wish I got the younger girl but the outcome was the same. Standard NoVa ending, no upsell, playful when in the moment. 70 hr, I dropped 40 for tip because I was torn with the 2 strikes (ruins the experience) and being able to rub on the kitty (OTC). I might be back when the table shower actually works. Overall I would recommend.

  11. #7243

    New Place in Fredericksburg

    I see there is a new place in Fredericksburg, on Rt 3 in the shopping center with Gold's Gym. Has anyone tried it yet? If not, might have to TOFT and report back.

    Thanks.

  12. #7242
    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    I don't blame your actions a bit, Nub. My only complaint is that you over-tipped the therapist.

    I ran into a similar situation many moons ago. The tip was on the table, under my wallet. But the service was so crappy, and the attitude was so bad, that I stopped her, got off the table, and began to dress. The therapist tried to convince me to get back onto the table, but the mood was already squelched. By then, I had my trousers on, reached over to the table and retrieved my wallet and the entire tip. I left absolutely no tip. Zero. She realized that she should have grabbed the tip when I was getting dressed, but it was too late. I put my shirt and shoes on, and then walked out. On the way out, she shouted an obscenity at me, and I flipped her off in return and vowed NEVER to come back. I gave a brief explanation to the MMS and then left.

    Are: are.
    I contemplated leaving no tip, but I decided against it and left the 0.2 to avoid the kind of scenario you described at the end; her making a scene. I thought it best to just leave quietly but I did plan on telling Mamasan I was not happy with the service on my way out, unfortunately I did not run into her on my way out. But you all know to avoid Yumi now, so I think my job was done.

  13. #7241
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNub  [View Original Post]
    If you visit City, and you draw Yumi, I'd recommend you ask for another therapist. She's lazy and has bad work ethic, I doubt this has anything to do with YMMV, it's just a matter of you being able to put up (and pop) with that lousy service in under a few minutes like she seems to expect.
    I don't blame your actions a bit, Nub. My only complaint is that you over-tipped the therapist.

    I ran into a similar situation many moons ago. The tip was on the table, under my wallet. But the service was so crappy, and the attitude was so bad, that I stopped her, got off the table, and began to dress. The therapist tried to convince me to get back onto the table, but the mood was already squelched. By then, I had my trousers on, reached over to the table and retrieved my wallet and the entire tip. I left absolutely no tip. Zero. She realized that she should have grabbed the tip when I was getting dressed, but it was too late. I put my shirt and shoes on, and then walked out. On the way out, she shouted an obscenity at me, and I flipped her off in return and vowed NEVER to come back. I gave a brief explanation to the MMS and then left.

    Are: are.

  14. #7240

    Top--Not

    I promised a review of Top Therapy, and it's a doozey. The place has new owners and new staff. They've gone to the no-mamasan model, which means your therapist probably will have to leave the room a few times to answer the bell.

    I was greeted by T (or Tee or whatever). T is short, chubby, and piggy-faced, but hey, she has personality. She seems to fancy herself a comedian. Limited english doesn't stop her from telling jokes and goofing around. "You all clean now. You no stink (Ha Ha)". "You have small nipples--oh! You a man. (chortle, chortle snort, slaps knees)". The clincher was when I was getting up, she assumed a boxer's stance--dukes up, feet apart, staring into the middle distance like she was posing for a sculpture. I really had no idea what to do with that. I tipped .4, as she did her job, but I hurried out of there.

    Top that!

  15. #7239
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNub  [View Original Post]
    I lost my patience at this point, politely asked her to stop, got dressed, left 0.2 and walked out.

    If you visit City, and you draw Yumi, I'd recommend you ask for another therapist. She's lazy and has bad work ethic, I doubt this has anything to do with YMMV, it's just a matter of you being able to put up (and pop) with that lousy service in under a few minutes like she seems to expect.
    Nub, you did a right thing. I met a few with bad attitudes like her. Why giving a tip for that kind of treatment!

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