"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Pats Fan1]

I have a medical condition which flares up once every couple of years (no it is not STD or penis related). It is painful and prevents me from having sex for about a week. I have a SB 2. I have written about her and posted a few pics in the last couple of weeks. I talk to her about every day. She is a totally hot young baby. But she is also a cool chick with a good sense of humor and always a positive attitude. Rare is today's world.

So we get along great. She lives about 2 hrs from me and I see her 1 x per week. So she is fully aware that I'm having a medical issue right now and next week I'm in FL. So she's getting no sugar for 2 weeks. I'm in her area on Thurs and have suggested I take her to lunch which she is excited about. Then it struck me maybe she's thinking I'll give her full sugar for just having lunch? I hope not. I made it clear up front that from my end I was looking for adult fun as her consideration. Obviously, I'm buying lunch and I'm excited about being at lunch with a hot babe half my age. I was thinking of getting a funny card and putting a gift card of a token amount in there. I usually give her 150 sugar. I was thinking more like 50 gift card to a tanning place she visits. What do you guys think?

So I met with SB2 for lunch. Thanks for the feedback from you guys. I opted to go forward and not talk to her about it first. I just brought the card and a $50 gift card inside. It was hard to tell beforehand how it was going to go over. She's a spoiled girl. About a week ago Daddy paid $10 k for her get veneers. They look great by the way. So we have lunch and I give her the card she loved it. She wasn't expecting anything at all which is cool. After lunch she spent 10 minutes in the car with me making out. She played with the stick shift a little bit but I had to get my business appt. She said she was really horny and couldn't wait until I got back form FL. I think she is just using me for the sex and who am I to complain?

[Revvo]

This is an amazing study of two totally different women and both are not keepers for different reasons. Lets compare and contrast.

REVVO_SB1: This was POT 1 and she came on like a cute sweet interesting spinner MILF with great promise. So we met again for a lunch and then on to the FC. I always wait and book the room right there in front of her after lunch. Making sure she is still ready for the FC. She was very ready. And was much more friendly and receptive than before. The good. We get to the hotel and start right away she was more than ready. She was so fucking horny. She came repeatedly before I even put my dick in her. She sucked me like a champion. She deep throated. Which is amazing considering she is such a small woman 4'11". Actually deep throat can hurt if they are not relaxed completely. But she was good and giving. We fucked and fucked and she never stopped playing with my cock the entire time. That is fucking awesome. She really knew how to worship my cock. When fucking her she was so little that I would literally hit bottom. I could feel her cervix with the head of my dick. She was soaking wet and there was pussy juice all over me. It went well. When we left I did not even give her any sugar. And she did not complain. I always send a text about 20 minutes after we split saying what a good time I had. And wait for their reply to feel them out to hear them complain if the sugar was not adequate. She seemed very happy.

Now the bad. She was not that great looking. I asked her about her job the so called liquor company promotional model. She did not talk about it much and when I asked her where her gig was the night before. She could not remember. Bullshit. I think she used to be one. But she is a little fat and older now and so it is not going so well. Her weight was more than I originally thought, and I can always tell now when they are trying to make the room dark and trying to jump into the covers before we start. Literally trying to hide themselves from me. Like that is possible? LOL I now give her a 6/6/7/10. Anyway then after fucking her she fused to me like a Ramora! I could feel her emotions clinging to me. Thank god she does not know my identity. I would consider her an absolute awesome fuck. But I am not sure about the lying and the weight, and the clinging. I don't think she could be a booty call baby because of this.

REVVO_SB4: This was my sexy POT4 from the other day. This one happened really fast. And fucked this one on the same day. SB1 in the afternoon, and this one that night. I don't like to do two in one day. But schedules were brutal and I am going out of town next week. So we met and went to a nice restaurant. She looks really good. Very very pretty tall and very assertive and strong. She looked in the face better than the photos. But the minute we met. And never got any better. I distinctly detected her disinterest in me. Just like SB1 above was enamoured with me and interested and fully focused on me. This one was aloof, bossy, polite but cold. She was a bit of a snob when looking at things like hotels, restaurants and liquor. She knew how to spend money and she wanted to spend some of mine. So needless to say the xpensive dinner did not include the best of company. Just imagine a conversation where you are working at being charming, laughing being funny, engaged, present. And the woman across the table is not making eye contact, polite but indifferent, body language is facing partially away. But she still is this gorgeous woman that is really sexual and is ready to fuck. Very weird.

We get in the car to go back to my room. And she pulls up her skirt to reveal her fully shaved pussy and rubs it and looks at me longingly. I reached down and she is already wet and ready to be stroked. I had not even gotten out of the parking lot and she was moaning and I was knuckles deep in her pussy. She hikes her knees up and puts her high heels on the dashboard of my car and I am playing with her pussy and trying to drive. You think texting and driving is had to do. LMFAO I tell her to grab my cock and she is on it like glue. I pull my dick out and she start sucking me so well right there. I was about to explode in her mouth while driving. So we finally make it to the hotel. And she asks for the sugar up front. I make a comment about it but don't really care since I see her as a very temporary thing. Now this is strange she starts to tell me how she has been fucked. Then she quickly changes it to her friends have been ripped off. Obviously caught her in a lie. Once again did not care. But interesting enough did not count the money. It was 150. So I do not think she is a full on UTR but most likely is on her way. Six months from now will have had many customers, and 2 years from now she will look 50.

So we get down to it. And yes this was an incredible fuck. She knew what she was doing and is willing to do anything. This is the kind you experiment with. She sucked my dick so well. In fact she deep throat-ed me also. And she likes it rough. I was literally fucking her mouth. And when I tried to pull my cock out she objected. So I fucked her even harder. Now this is amazing. I could not imagine someone doing that to me. It would make me throw up. And I bet it hurts. But she loved it. So for a sexual experience wow. For a person I want to spend time with aint no fucking way. Oh and she slipped and told me her age. 41 not 36. And her body showed it. She had that saggy skin on the belly that says she needs a tummy tuck. She also tried to keep her bra on to hide her old small titties. I give her a 8/7/5/10. And of course the final straw. She was dressing to leave almost immediately after the first nutt. Boy is this one not SB material. Just a really good fuck for 150 when I am breezing through town. She was asking me a lot to see her again when I am in town. And she seemed happy with the sugar on my follow up text. But I just don't know why I would waste the time and the money on her.

There it is. Could not be two more different women. And both not a good fit for a lot of different reasons. Both are lying to me. And both seem to be wrong for me.

It sure can surprise you.

REVVO.

[HollywoodGuy]

More to cum.

And never forget that.

[BigTigger]

Roommate got avoid eviction money, then missed date, radio silence.

MsTripleDs got weird on me. I moved on.

MsSlimCheerleader, recovered from first bad session.

Broke in my new suite.

MsHipsnThighs was removed from rotation, her decision.

MsThickness on pause, on her way out.

More to cum.

[Revvo]

I have always maintained that we learn as much from our mistakes as from our successes. Rev, you are one busy bee. My hat's off to you, my brother.

Keep up the good work.

Scott.

Yes I have. Work has been slow lately. I don't expect this to last.

But fun while it does. Hehe.

Revvo.

[F Scott]

Getting involved and doing it is how you learn. There is a lot of pussy out there. Go get it. I know everyone is always looking for some trick to this. Well there is none. When you go through this work, and it is work, you really learn what you have experienced. Learn from the brothers and learn from your own experiences. There is a hell of a lot to this.

Be careful out there.

REVVO.

I have always maintained that we learn as much from our mistakes as from our successes. Rev, you are one busy bee. My hat's off to you, my brother.

Keep up the good work.

Scott.

[F Scott]

Gentlemen,

My SO is out of town on business for the next few days, and I am making the most of my unexpected freedom! I was able to sneak in a couple of hours with my gorgeous but flighty baby yesterday, and we are on again for Friday. It seems she just can't get enough of Scottie, though I have to say he performed like a true champ, fortified by a dose of the blue vitamin! It seems I need to add this baby to my list of those who like it on the rough side. Ah well, all in a day's work!

Tonight I am having dinner, followed by a "night cap" at her apartment, with my reunited ATF. We have reservations at a gastro pub that specializes in local produce and meats, craft beers and a wide assortment of whiskeys. Plus there is a fireplace in the bar, and it will be a cold, rainy and windy evening. Will I be in heaven? Yes, yes I will! I'm so excited to see her again, I can barely concentrate! Apparently her SO is also out of town, so hooray for me! If I can file a credible report when I check in with the warden, I might be able to extend tonight into breakfast tomorrow morning. How fun would that be?

In other news. Pat, I'd go with the $50 gift card. It's a small amount of money, and could easily earn you brownie points down the line. That said, do it with absolutely no expectation of anything, and you'll be fine. Let us know how it comes out.

Yoga baby update. It turns out that she offers private, one-on-one lessons! This could be the entryway I've been looking for!! It might be the ideal situation. "Honey, I'm meeting Jen for my next yoga session. I'll be back in a few hours." At best, it will truly be Nirvana, while at worst, I'll get in better shape than I am now, and get to look at her becoming all slick and sweaty. Win / win, right? Again, I think I'll have to proceed a little slowly, but maybe not. All of the sudden, I've gone from nothing on my plate to a bit too much. What a place the Bowl is!

Tally ho!

Scott.

[Revvo]

Oh yes. That was me and yes it is. Very fluid indeed. You know the basic story, some good and some bad. I have seen a lot and I am still seeing a lot. Another couple of weeks on SDforme and many interesting POTs and some new babies also. I also have some very bad news to report. So lets get started shall we?

REVVO_POT1: So this was my new Colombian Chiquita and she is officially a new SB3 below. So I am plugging a new one in here. This one is a very cute little American baby from New Jersey. Pics were hot and face was partially obscured so I was not sure if she would turn out to be a full on bullshitter and ugly like the previous blond that I reported on. We texted and chatted on the phone and no drama. No problem at all communicating. We set a date for a M&G Monday and she was there early. Nice. When I first walked up to her I did not know what to think. I put on the charm and she lit up. Just a tiny little thing. Real spinner 4'11" at the most, maybe 110 lbs and a very very sexy body. Fully see cup really soft nice breasts. Full plump ass, and a cute face maybe looks a little like Jennifer Lopez. Her hair was different in the pics and her teeth were a little off but you can't ask for perfection. I give her a 8/9/8/? . She had a sparkling personality and was very agreeable and ready to work with me. I had to carry the conversation a little. But not bad. She is a 33 YO White MILF, lives in a house with a roommate and kids part time. No drama no pain. Very likely could meet at her house. And to top it all off I find that she is a promotional model for liquor companies. These are the hot girls you see in the bars and at liquor stores standing there in a skimpy outfit trying to get you to buy a particular product. Needless to say I was very attracted to her and ready to visit the FC right there. Which she did agree to but her son was sick and she skyped him right there so I know it was no bullshit. We quickly set a date for tomorrow afternoon. Then I walked her to her car and we had a really hot make-out session right by her car in the parking lot. Great kisser and very passionate. I could literally feel her getting more and more aroused. Lots of little moans and sighs. What a great feeling. Wish me luck brothers I am going in tomorrow.

REVVO_POT2: If you remember this was the fake POT that looked like a 10 and when we met it was not good. She did contact me to meet again. But I told her I had met someone else. Not seeing her again. So I am plugging a new one in here. This one is very very beautiful. So I spotted her on the site and her profile looked like cute and interesting. Big boobs but not a knockout. She responded to me fairly quickly and was a good communicator right off the bat. We hit it off and she sent me some more pics and she looked better. Then she sends me some bikini pics and she looks even better. She lives over 2 hours away. But once again in a city that I travel to. So we set up a M&G for today. And keep talking up to this day. She sends me some are rated shots and they are even better. And we are getting closer and closer emotionally. She is kind of mellow, not too over the top. But her pics look kind of over the top. Then we meet today. We meet halfway and she is so fucking hot! The pics do not do her justice. Long black hair, dark piercing eyes french canadian decent, think Shania Twain type of look. And what a smoking body. 5'2" 104 lbs, another spinner, 29 YO White MILF, works out every day. Very large breasts implants and a beautiful ass. And she is really put together well. You know the type truly everyone is looking when you are with her. You know my opinion of hot women. So I worry she is a hot woman. But throughout the entire M&G she is very mellow receptive, polite, and really sweet and seemingly genuine. She has gone through some very very tough times which I will not go into here. She is in the middle of a very bad divorce from someone that is a millionaire. And so she is used to money. But now has nothing. I tell her up front that I am not rich. And she immediately tells me that she is not looking for someone that is rich. She said she prayed to live poor and happy while she was married to her ex. So she tells me that she is looking for something that is no drama, stable, and fun, and NSA. I may have hit the lottery here. A hot woman that is not looking for money or a boyfriend that looks like a model. So there is lots of long gazes and touching and I ask her to attend the FC with me. And she refuses. But assures me on the next date she will be good to go. I think she is looking for something stable and long term. I assured her it is not a problem. And I was not going anywhere. By the way she has a girlfriend that is wealthy and while we were on the date she shows me a text where the girlfriend just bought her a BMW! Yes things can get interesting in Florida. I take her back to her car and give her a long delicious hug and a very sexy kiss. She tells me she is so anxious to see me again. And I concur. I give her a 9/10/8/? . Who knows what will happen. But it has been fun so far.

REVVO_POT3: Spoke too soon on this one. Should not have reported before the M&G. Gone dark. But not a problem. I have many more to talk about.

REVVO_POT4: This one I left behind after the M&G lied big time about her age and her looks. So plugging a new one in here. And breaking my rule about reporting before a M&G above. But there is so much to tell I have to. If I never meet her. I have had a really fun and sexy experience so far. Guys pay a lot of money for what I have gotten for free these past couple of days. She had a nice profile and a pic without her face. I started chatting her up and at first thought she may be some kind of UTR since she was kind of playing hard. Then she opened up and sent me pics and really wanted to chat. Then things went into high gear. She looks a lot like an older blond model. She is 36 lean, and very in shape, small natural titties, and a toned body. Cute face and wow what a sexy personality. We started the dirty texting and dirty photos and then the dirty talk. Jeez I thought I was going to walk around the whole day with a hardon. She works as a professional with a real job and house and car. And a life. And she just want a sexy fun good looking partner to play with. But she does want the sugar and did ask for it. We are set for a M&G / FC tomorrow, almost guaranteed. She loves hotel sex because she can get bent over facing the open window while looking at the city lights below. Her words but a fantasy of mine, that I have reenacted several times since being in the bowl. LOL I am going to give her 150 since she will most likely be hosting in the future. Very very fun and very very sexy. She is a 36 YO white MILF, I give her a 8/8/10/? . I am almost postitive the? Will be a 10. Once again we shall see. Nothing may happen. I told her she cannot masturbate or touch her pussy until I am with her tommorrw night. She agreed just like a nice little girl. And I rewarded her with nice compliments.

REVVO_SB3: This is where I am plugging in my new little Colombian Chiquita and she is very nice. She is a little heavy / thick. But she is so beautiful and so sexy, and normal and stable and reliable. I cannot go without. She fucked well and often. She came hard and often. She is very adventurous and likes lots of variety. She is very very sensuous and sexy, and affectionate. Awesome kisser. And we would just stand there and kiss for the longest time. And she is very fair skinned and her beautiful face would blush and get so red. And she would get that look. You know the one I am talking about. That deep lustful look right into my eyes like she is in pure ecxtasy. I swear that is the most beautiful look in the world. My little girl next door gets that. And her pussy what a beautiful pussy. I play with her clit until she just goes crazy. And she comes so hard and wet it leaves a juicy wet spot on the bed. Like a juicy luscious little peach. Wow what a fuck. We met again last week. Could not meet this week because of schedules. She is very very busy. So there really is no time for anything but fucking snuggling. Oh well if I have to. LOL She is definitely a keeper. I give her a 9/7/8/10 .

REVVO_SB2: No word so she is out. Don't expect to hear from her. Sad but true. She is the #1 best blowjob of my life.

REVVO_SB6: So my little girl next door baby has been absent since our FC visit last Wednesday. Good fuck not a lot of time. But it was good while it lasted. Then she went dark. I was ready to write her off. She got the allowance and disappeared. Until yesterday. She has been in the hospital, passed out and was rushed there for 5 days. She is very very sick. Not going into details. But it is real. I verified it. And it is very very sad. I am not sure what to do. I cannot visit her because we both are very discrete and both like each other. She does call and talk. If she wanted to vanish she could have. But she did not. Once again I have looked very carefully for a lie but cannot find one. I really do not know what to do with her. But because of her health it may be over. Sad.

REVVO_SB7: Have not fucked her for two weeks. She is standing by waiting for me to come over. But schedules and her period have kept us apart. My little venezualan baby wants my dick bad. So I will visit her on Friday morning to give it to her well. I will report on any fireworks.

That is it for this week. What an eventful two weeks. There is still a lot to learn. And getting involved and doing it is how you learn. There is a lot of pussy out there. Go get it. I am now reducing my sugar from 200 to 150 and even 100 for my babies now. A far cry from my first at 400+lunch+drinks+hotel and lots of drama. I am always looking for quality not just hot looks. See POT2. I was pursuing her for quality and the hot looks showed up at the M&G. What a bonus. One other thing I know there are a lot of lurkers out there that do not post. And I know everyone is always looking for some trick to this. Well there is none. There is a lot of learned skill to get the real first class good looking pussy for a small amount of money. That is many things and a set of experiences. But another thing. I will say writing these reports has been the most helpful exercise I have done. Why? Because when you go through this work. And it is work. You really learn what you have experienced. Not just a crazy sex fogged filled blur that you may recall and learn from later. But most likely you will forget the bad stuff and not remember the "learning experiences" so well. Write the reports lurkers. Learn from the brothers and learn from your own experiences. There is a hell of a lot to this.

Be careful out there.

REVVO.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have a medical condition which flares up once every couple of years (no it is not STD or penis related). It is painful and prevents me from having sex for about a week. I have a SB 2. I have written about her and posted a few pics in the last couple of weeks. I talk to her about every day. She is a totally hot young baby. But she is also a cool chick with a good sense of humor and always a positive attitude. Rare is today's world.

So we get along great. She lives about 2 hrs from me and I see her 1 x per week. So she is fully aware that I'm having a medical issue right now and next week I'm in FL. So she's getting no sugar for 2 weeks. I'm in her area on Thurs and have suggested I take her to lunch which she is excited about. Then it struck me maybe she's thinking I'll give her full sugar for just having lunch? I hope not. I made it clear up front that from my end I was looking for adult fun as her consideration. Obviously, I'm buying lunch and I'm excited about being at lunch with a hot babe half my age. I was thinking of getting a funny card and putting a gift card of a token amount in there. I usually give her 150 sugar. I was thinking more like 50 gift card to a tanning place she visits. What do you guys think?

If you have banged her more than 10 times give her some sugar. Less than 5 times, definitely not. If it was 6 to 10 times the 50 dollar card sounds fair.

[FredMoore]

I have a medical condition which flares up once every couple of years (no it is not STD or penis related). It is painful and prevents me from having sex for about a week. I have a SB 2. I have written about her and posted a few pics in the last couple of weeks. I talk to her about every day. She is a totally hot young baby. But she is also a cool chick with a good sense of humor and always a positive attitude. Rare is today's world.

So we get along great. She lives about 2 hrs from me and I see her 1 x per week. So she is fully aware that I'm having a medical issue right now and next week I'm in FL. So she's getting no sugar for 2 weeks. I'm in her area on Thurs and have suggested I take her to lunch which she is excited about. Then it struck me maybe she's thinking I'll give her full sugar for just having lunch? I hope not. I made it clear up front that from my end I was looking for adult fun as her consideration. Obviously, I'm buying lunch and I'm excited about being at lunch with a hot babe half my age. I was thinking of getting a funny card and putting a gift card of a token amount in there. I usually give her 150 sugar. I was thinking more like 50 gift card to a tanning place she visits. What do you guys think?

Hey Pat, This is a lovely opportunity to show her your generosity by gifting her the sugar and making her feel valued for more than sex. Having said that I know I do not have sugar to spare and would not do it myself. Actually my ATF is going to be out of town for a month so she already said that I can save up my sugar for when she gets back. We both care about each other but there is no mistaking what is important, and that is sex and sugar. I would talk to her about it so you won't be blindsided by her expectation. It sounds like she is not that way but you might ask her if she will be OK without the full sugar for 2 weeks.

[Pats Fan1]

I have a medical condition which flares up once every couple of years (no it is not STD or penis related). It is painful and prevents me from having sex for about a week. I have a SB 2. I have written about her and posted a few pics in the last couple of weeks. I talk to her about every day. She is a totally hot young baby. But she is also a cool chick with a good sense of humor and always a positive attitude. Rare is today's world.

So we get along great. She lives about 2 hrs from me and I see her 1 x per week. So she is fully aware that I'm having a medical issue right now and next week I'm in FL. So she's getting no sugar for 2 weeks. I'm in her area on Thurs and have suggested I take her to lunch which she is excited about. Then it struck me maybe she's thinking I'll give her full sugar for just having lunch? I hope not. I made it clear up front that from my end I was looking for adult fun as her consideration. Obviously, I'm buying lunch and I'm excited about being at lunch with a hot babe half my age. I was thinking of getting a funny card and putting a gift card of a token amount in there. I usually give her 150 sugar. I was thinking more like 50 gift card to a tanning place she visits. What do you guys think?

[Pats Fan1]

I'm a long time monger and ten plus years in the bowl. I've met some wonderful friends as well as some flakes and ripoffs. I used to entertain at my home regularly for all the positive reasons we have talked about.

That all changed a couple of years ago, one incident I had an escort's driver banging on the door of my very quiet Fl. Condo at 2 am, demanding more money, another who had checked me out online and mentioned my SO's name when things weren't going exactly as she had planned.

Here at home in Charlottesville I have had two recent SB's (one was actually only a POT when she did a cash and dash) whom I had come very close to inviting to my home. It got ugly after the cash and dash and the other, whom I had enjoyed good times with at her place turned into a total flake. It stayed cordial but I was glad that in neither case did I have to worry about them driving up my driveway one day.

Even after those incidents I am still tempted since I am a little paranoid about checking into a local hotel and just like the comforts of home, but I have to constantly remind myself of the potential downside, whether just mental or actual.

So, my brothers, to make a could have been longer story short, think it through to a possibly ugly end and consider how much damage an angry or offended young lady can do with the right info. I like the 18-25 year old range, eager and open to experiment, BUT no grasp yet on the potential consequences of their spite.

To me I would never bring a SB or escort to my house. Once she's been there. She has your address. With your address she can find out just about everything about you. One internet search if you have a mortgage or one trip to the local tax office (or internet search) if you don't have a mortgage and she knows who you are and if there is anyone else on the property. With your name she can search to find out what you do / where you work / who you deal with. With a small fee she can get more thorough personal data. For me ...No Thank You. I understand that most girls wouldn't take those actions but it just takes one or a jealous pimp / bf / spouse and you have problems. To make the income most of us make to be able to do this, you probably deal with the public or clients and have a reputation to be concerned with. Just my 2 cents. I'm sure others have a different opinion.

[Copper Fool]

Ok brothers, I need advice. My ATF has gotten flaky, sometimes she is sweet and sometimes she ignores my texts and skips dates without letting me know. This girl is great in the FC and fun all around. I don't want to cut her loose, but I can't keep putting up with this. Anyone have any good advice?

Thanks guys, I think I will have some time. I got to go out of town, for real, any way, at the end of the month. I got a m&g setup for tomorrow. She is a hot little thing, really eager to go. We'll see.

[HollywoodGuy]

Ok brothers, I need advice. My ATF has gotten flaky, sometimes she is sweet and sometimes she ignores my texts and skips dates without letting me know. This girl is great in the FC and fun all around. I don't want to cut her loose, but I can't keep putting up with this. Anyone have any good advice?

Ignore her, and then see if she runs to you.

[FredMoore]

Ok brothers, I need advice. My ATF has gotten flaky, sometimes she is sweet and sometimes she ignores my texts and skips dates without letting me know. This girl is great in the FC and fun all around. I don't want to cut her loose, but I can't keep putting up with this. Anyone have any good advice?

CF, this girl is disrespecting you. She wants you conditionally when she doesn't have a better deal going on. Been there and done that.

Give her one chance to fly straight with you. Tell her how you want her to behave and ask her if she can do it. If the answer is "yes" then nicely tell her that you are counting on her. One slip without advance notice and a good excuse and be strong and cut her loose. She already has something (s) else going on anyway.

Many of these girls are constantly shopping a better deal and all you can do is enjoy the ride while their motor is running.