"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Pats Fan1]

So I've been busier than normal lately at work and heading out door earlier in the morning. Last week flipping through the radio I stumble across this local radio show that tests men. It's called "war of the roses". A wife or gf that suspects a cheating partner calls in and gets the radio hosts to test the man. The female radio host calls the man's cell and says he won a free dozen long stem red roses and he can choose to have them sent to anyone in the continental US at zero charge. I listened on the radio (and then checked out the website) as almost all of these guys send the roses to their mistress. I'm pointing out this lesson so that if something free like this this comes along, use your Brain not your dick. Send the freebie to your wife and include a nice sappy message about how you love her and are sorry you've been so distracted with work lately!! Don't send the flowers to your ATF SB... Ie. Give the dick pounding to your SB and the flowers to your wife. I recommend pulling the website and listen to a few. Just search war of the roses radio...

Good Luck and stay safe,

PF

[FredMoore]

Met the POT #1 I alluded to earlier. Was 7/7/7/6 with a lot of drama. The CPO was $100 with her own FC but I did not go prepared because of time constraints. I just wanted to check her out. But she turned out to want to do the deed so we did. Only after did we discuss allowance since she was paranoid about LE entrapment. Well I offered $ for that experience to be paid later and the same going forward. The problem is she bugged the crap out of me to pay now, basically blew up my phone. I paid as I promised and now she is all happy wanting to meet regularly. I might keep her on tap as a booty call only. She is definitely not SB quality by my standards. On the plus side, perhaps she will settle down now that she knows I won't screw her, weeeell money wise. And I save $250/ pop compared to my ATF to deposit a load. There will not be an E connection here though.

[FredMoore]

BT,

Once again, you are out on the edge of the horizon when it comes to innovative approaches to the Bowl! What a great idea.

I would add that there is a website, airbnb.com, where you can rent a single bedroom in an apartment either by the day, week or month. They are usually in great neighborhoods, at least in the Chicago area, and it seems like no one gives a shit what you do, as long as you pay the fee. Once I am out from under the spotlight on the guard tower, I think I may check this angle out myself. Some are furnished, some are not, but the cost is far less than a hotel room on average, especially if you have more than one baby in rotation, or are meeting more than once a week. Plus you get to stock it with any of your personal requirements, and then leave them there instead of a hidey-hole somewhere on home grounds.

BTW, it's great to see so many newbies posting up. I truly believe this is the greatest thread on the site, bar none.

Keep those reports coming.

Scott.

Thanks for the tip Scotty! Hope your trip was successful for you.

I scanned my play zone and found that daily rates are higher than the * Notels that I use, but it is another option. Also, the cheapest option I clicked on had reviews that lauded the friendliness of the owners who live there and the wonderful nightcap they offered as well as the breakfast in the AM. Nice if you are with the SO, but too much involvement for our hobby. I wonder how they would like the screaming orgasms for 3 hours straight LOL.

[BuckDancer]

Guy, You are absolutely correct. I was nervous the whole time I would see someone I knew while in the restaurant. Outside of town has to be where it's safer.

She never responded back so I think she has swum off, and put a brand new ad up on CL exactly the same as the first ad I answered. I hope she becomes more careful for her own sake, If I was able to find out her true I'd than anyone will be able to. Time to go to the bait store and throw a line back in the water.

Happy Fishing!

[Member #5055]

Just a word of warning, if you are truly sugaring in tiny hooville, and hooville is really small, if you do get her to the FC and develop her as an SB, then there is a good chance she will learn your real I'd.- may or may not be an issue, but I am not sure I would want a mace carrying girl (even a hot 25 year old) knowing what I get up to in my small town. Let's pyt it this way.- I go to any local store and I will know at least 2-3 people.

I only sugar in the large towns that are minimu, 30-45 minutes away. Just my two cents. Stay safe GW.

Well I did a little sherlocking last night, In the meeting she told me her first name only and what she did for a living. Well hooville is a very small town. I took a stab that she actually told me her real first name. And lo and behold I found her and found out everything about her. I found her on Linkdin, facebook, twitter etc. She is who she says she is, so I'm not so worried about the LE angle anymore. I just think the awkwardness and both of us being new to the bowl threw up the flags. Good thing is I used junk email, google voice number, and fake name, paid in cash, so I've learned well from this thread. I don; t think she can figure me out at this point. But I know her. She is a hot 25 year old and I'd like to get her in FC, I did email her this AM asking how she thought it went. SO we'll see if no response I'll move on. Thanks for all the comments and advice. Rock on!

[BigTigger]

BT,

Once again, you are out on the edge of the horizon when it comes to innovative approaches to the Bowl! What a great idea.

I would add that there is a website, airbnb.com, where you can rent a single bedroom in an apartment either by the day, week or month. They are usually in great neighborhoods, at least in the Chicago area, and it seems like no one gives a shit what you do, as long as you pay the fee. Once I am out from under the spotlight on the guard tower, I think I may check this angle out myself. Some are furnished, some are not, but the cost is far less than a hotel room on average, especially if you have more than one baby in rotation, or are meeting more than once a week. Plus you get to stock it with any of your personal requirements, and then leave them there instead of a hidey-hole somewhere on home grounds.

BTW, it's great to see so many newbies posting up. I truly believe this is the greatest thread on the site, bar none.

Keep those reports coming.

Scott.

I tried airbnb but for Baltimore the price for one with private bath was running $100 or more plus deposits. In some cases that is more than a hotel. Plus you have to give / prove all your personal info. With CL, you can get someone that just wants their money.

BiggTigg.

[HollywoodGuy]

So a couple of days ago I get contacted by a very hot looking Russian POT. She says she is educated, speaks four languages and is wonderful. She said she had a SD when she lived in Russia. We started chatting and then she disappeared. Next day she texted me again and started chatting again. She seemed a little rushed and frantic. But well spoken freindly and easily a 9/9/ She almost immediately asked for a time to meet and asked me if 500 a week would be good with me. I did not answer just kept engaging her in conversation.

But she wanted to talk business. Then she asked me if 2000 per month is a good amount. At this time I really was not so sure in meeting with her. But what the hell. So I told her I could not do that amount but we could talk allowance after we know each other a while. Then I said we could do 150 per visit for now.

She said that was too low and don't be cheap Revvo. Not nasty just like she was trying to move me forward. So I then told her that the amount was too much but thanks and I wished her luck and I hope she gets what she wants.

A little while later she texts me 300 and then asks for a meeting that night. I tell her no thanks 150 and I do not negotiate and that I do not want this to be a negotiation. Because she will not be happy after it is over. And that does not lead to a good encounter. She then tells me how smart and sexy and wonderful she is and that the girls I am meeting are ugly. I say all I have been with are beautiful and educated and sexy and fun. I said that she is great. You should get what you want. Just not from me.

She then went to 250 then to 200. This was over couple hours. I told her that while we were chatting 50 more girls have signed up for that site.

Finally I agreed to 200 and am scheduled to meet on Friday. Not sure if I want to go. What do you think? Do you think this will be an quality engagement? Or do you think she is a UTR or pro? Tineye showed her picture on one of those Russian mail order bride sites. No where else.

I am a little leery. What are your thoughts?

Revvo.

Negotiating a lower price tends lower the quality of the service provided. I would never want to think there is any resentment in any girl I am with. There are exceptions. I may have one to write about this weekend.

[F Scott]

$600.

Furnished, but I will buy a bigger bed.

She based her comments on the ad I placed. I was clear in my ad that I would always have a guest.

She knows, but does not care. Just wants the money.

BT.

BT,

Once again, you are out on the edge of the horizon when it comes to innovative approaches to the Bowl! What a great idea.

I would add that there is a website, airbnb.com, where you can rent a single bedroom in an apartment either by the day, week or month. They are usually in great neighborhoods, at least in the Chicago area, and it seems like no one gives a shit what you do, as long as you pay the fee. Once I am out from under the spotlight on the guard tower, I think I may check this angle out myself. Some are furnished, some are not, but the cost is far less than a hotel room on average, especially if you have more than one baby in rotation, or are meeting more than once a week. Plus you get to stock it with any of your personal requirements, and then leave them there instead of a hidey-hole somewhere on home grounds.

BTW, it's great to see so many newbies posting up. I truly believe this is the greatest thread on the site, bar none.

Keep those reports coming.

Scott.

[F Scott]

Knife and Mace, squirrely emails and conversation. This just sounds like trouble. Might work out fine, at first, but some how some where you have Michael Douglas and Glenn Close doing a Fatal Attraction scene playing in the back of your head. Some pussy is better off if you just say "next".

Buck,

I know lots of young girls who carry mace or pepper spray in their purses, my daughters included. Sadly, it is a fact of modern life. But a knife? That would freak me out a little.

I see you have verified that she is a legitimate civvy, but if it were me I would still proceed with a little caution, although having said that, I do confess to liking the edgy ones myself. What's the harm in a second m&g, with the understanding that the FC will be close by if needed? If she is new to the Bowl, she may be figuring it out the same way you are.

Welcome to the club, good luck, and of course.

Don't forget to write!

Scott.

[BigTigger]

I think I may have a replacement for MsThickness. I found someone with much of the same physically, who communicates regularly and better. She also has her own job and car. She lives 15 minutes from my new Tiggapad and is extremely sexual. I'll be meeting her right before I see the new space. I then have a date with MsThickness, she's on her period, so I'll get sucked pretty dry before the night is over. I may save it and hit the new girl up again. She's hot and horny and might just break me off some in the backseat...lol...we'll see.

MsHipsnThighs got a new job with regular day hours. Not sure how much I'll be seeing her.

Still working on the short spinner. She's communicated daily and ready to get Tiggabounced, she's practically begging for it. Interesting turn of events. I think she was doing good until I started kissing on her neck and put her hand on the TiggaStick. She then got all extra hot and ready to go. I don't think she's even worried about the money at this point. But I'll hold her off a little longer. I have to get a room to take advantage of that and right now I'm only spending hotel money on MsThickness.

I think I got a winner in the new Thick one.

I think I'm going to hurt the spinner...she's so small...but I got to do it at least once or twice.

I think MsThickness will be sad about me moving on. But I'll string her along for a few more weeks. She's great in bed.

I think that CL is more profitable lately than I ever imagined.

I think I need to settle in on 1 or 2 before I lose my job!

BigTigg...out!

[BigTigger]

BT, can you bang the landlady? LOL Or is she a 60 yr old beast?

I've not met the owner of the condo yet, but my guess is she's probably in her 60's. She's semi-retired and helps with her grandbabies. I'd think that banging her could cause problems when a hot young SB is brought over later. Now if it will get me a reduction in the rent. We may be able to negotiate...LOL.

[FredMoore]

$600.

Furnished, but I will buy a bigger bed.

She based her comments on the ad I placed. I was clear in my ad that I would always have a guest.

She knows, but does not care. Just wants the money.

BT.

BT, can you bang the landlady? LOL Or is she a 60 yr old beast?

Buck, this girl Red has cop written all over her. Backup car in the parking lot, table right at the front door, weird communications. Run, don't walk. It's better to miss a good POT than get into a mess.

Cops will not go somewhere private since they have to have backup nearby. If a girl will meet you in the FC of your choice (last minute) then she is unlikely to be LE. Escorts tell me that setup stings are highly orchestrated with adjacent hotel rooms already rented and populated with the team.

[BuckDancer]

Well I did a little sherlocking last night, In the meeting she told me her first name only and what she did for a living. Well hooville is a very small town. I took a stab that she actually told me her real first name. And lo and behold I found her and found out everything about her. I found her on Linkdin, facebook, twitter etc. She is who she says she is, so I'm not so worried about the LE angle anymore. I just think the awkwardness and both of us being new to the bowl threw up the flags. Good thing is I used junk email, google voice number, and fake name, paid in cash, so I've learned well from this thread. I don; t think she can figure me out at this point. But I know her. She is a hot 25 year old and I'd like to get her in FC, I did email her this AM asking how she thought it went. SO we'll see if no response I'll move on. Thanks for all the comments and advice. Rock on!

[Revvo]

My Brothers, Tonight I had my first meet and greet with a potential SB. I found her on Craigslist and wasn't expecting much. We conversed for a while via email. And when I asked for picture she said your crazy! Not right off the bat! So ok, we communicated for a while over the next week. I told her I could not host, she also said she could not as roomates were involved. Ok, hotel it is. Well we decided to meet at a local chain restaurant on the other side of town from me. I was excited and nervous the whole time. She has a email that suggests dissonance reduction, during the entire exchange I'm trying to find info about her. I am obviously using a junk email. So anyway to the meeting day today, we agree on the time and place and I am nervous. We email right up to the meeting and meet outside, then go into the restaurant. Now I have told her I'm married and need discretion. She's fine with that. I ask if she would like a table or sit at the bar, she picks a half table right at the entrance. I'm thinking WTF? Sitting duck. Any way we sit and she goes to the restroom and comes back and we order drinks, By the way she has long red hair and is hot, I'm thinking this I'd too good to be true. No boobs but that's ok, her body is hot. I'll call her red for the red hair. We make conversation and it's ok, but I'm still nervous. She seems nonchalant and detached. I told her I was nervous and she said she wasn't due to her job as a social worker and she deals with difficult situations all the time. I was good but maybe a little too curious as to why she picked me out of the hundreds of emails she got, and wasn't she concerned at all for her safety. I'm a softy like that. I inquired as to why she was interested in doing this and she said I'm young and still hot so why not! (she's 25). She then opened a little and said her parents are dirt poor, and they exhausted their savings to send a brother to dive school. IThere was never any mention of $ and I asked what she thought of what she wanted as an arrangement, she indicated she would prefer to discuss that via email later. I was fine with that. Waiter asked if we wanted to order she said no here for a drink only. We finished drinks and I told her I would lokk forward to hearing from her. I offered to walk her to her car, but said no I'll walk myself I have a knife and mace. So we left together and went our separate ways. Funny thing, I saw an unmarked cop car turn it's lights on and leave a parking space 5-6 down from me when I was walking towards my vehicle. Question Am I paranoid? There has never been a discussion on $ and I know I'm clean right now, and wouldn't she try to entrap me? Other question If that's nothing it seems she is just not interested? If that's the case I'll move on, no worries, but she was hot, well kept and very smart. Suggestions, comments, observations welcome!

Craigslist for some reason attracts lots of cops. Don not in any way discuss money over email this to me is a big red flag. Or via phone. I only discuss in person if I have to. Usually I wait until after FC is over then give it to them.

Her not showing pics is also very suspicious. A female cop is not going to send you pics either. Women sending pics is standard. She should not have a problem with this.

Finally meet her personally and escalate physically quickly. Start touching her on the arm. Then touch on the upper arm and hand. Then the back. Hold hands with her. You pick the table. And place make it intimate. Look for her reaction she should be happy to see you and welcome your escalation. If she is a cop she will not let you do any of these things. Finally go for a kiss when you are getting closer and closer to her physically. She what she does.

I am afraid you have a problem here.

Be careful out there.

Revvo.

[Beachesnole02]

Maybe, but I'ld be too. One one hand it sounds like she's interested, on the other hand walking to car with 'mace and a knife', she sounds very suspicious. Likely, she's had bad experiences in the past and being extra careful. But you need to be the same. I would suggest another m&g. Get a little intimate in the car & talk about what'll happen at the fc later before committing to any $ amount.

Knife and Mace, squirrely emails and conversation. This just sounds like trouble. Might work out fine, at first, but some how some where you have Michael Douglas and Glenn Close doing a Fatal Attraction scene playing in the back of your head. Some pussy is better off if you just say "next".