"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**HollywoodGuy** · 10-19-13 03:27

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

You have got to see this one. I saw this really hot former SB on SDforme. So I thought lets give it a shot. I sent her a nice polite email. With lots of details and asked for some info and a M&G. Now let me tell you her pic was an easy 10/10 and I do not say this lightly.

So she relies back and says and I quote "can you send me gas money".

I replied back "when and where would you like to meet. And I cannot send gas money but I can pay for your gas when we meet".

Her reply, "mmm its ok you seem cheap have a nice dayyyyyyyy you don't need to write back don't waist your time or mine".

LOL.

Can you believe this? She has been on the site for some time. She put in her profile that she needs her car fixed. I think I am going to reply that "wouldn't it be cheap if I did not want to pay for the gas? I will pay for her gas, but just not up front.

Dodged a bullet on that one. Could you imagine the poor sucker that is going to fall for this?

Revvo.

That has happened to me numerous times.

**Revvo** · 10-18-13 16:25

You have got to see this one. I saw this really hot former SB on SDforme. So I thought lets give it a shot. I sent her a nice polite email. With lots of details and asked for some info and a M&G. Now let me tell you her pic was an easy 10/10 and I do not say this lightly.

So she relies back and says and I quote "can you send me gas money".

I replied back "when and where would you like to meet. And I cannot send gas money but I can pay for your gas when we meet".

Her reply, "mmm its ok you seem cheap have a nice dayyyyyyyy you don't need to write back don't waist your time or mine".

LOL.

Can you believe this? She has been on the site for some time. She put in her profile that she needs her car fixed. I think I am going to reply that "wouldn't it be cheap if I did not want to pay for the gas? I will pay for her gas, but just not up front.

Dodged a bullet on that one. Could you imagine the poor sucker that is going to fall for this?

Revvo.

**LuckyLou** · 10-18-13 10:11

Originally Posted by JMartinez [View Original Post]

She wouldn't be where unless she needed money. Pay the $ let us know.

Whatever you do, come back on here and let us know. I am sure we are all curious as to our sugar bowl acumen and it's accuracy.

**BigTigger** · 10-18-13 09:20

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

In the spirit of the bowl, one of the last HYBs I talked to prior to my sabbatical has come back pushing for a meeting. Her pics show her to be my type, a pretty cute spinner 27 yr old looking to be a 7 /8.5/7/? She seems persistent and has a FC that we might be able to play in. She is open to an initial FC meeting sight unseen, no contact requested or mentioned but implied, and the $$ left up to me to be "fair ".

Hoo Boy! I know it sounds too good to be true but if I take the plunge what do you guys think I should donate after the deed? My funds are monitored so it is all I can do to keep my ATF in Chanel. $100 is the most I could go and it would be nice to score some lower rates like some of you studs have been doing.

I don't care if this works but it would be nice to have a cheap fuck buddy on tap in my area. Having said that I don't want to come across as being too cheap. I actually care what they think which is possibly my problem.

Go with the $100. It's better to not get caught and run the risk of being seen as cheap. But if you give her a few orgasms and the sex is great the $100 might be perfect. Either way, you can say, "We didn't talk money and this is my normal gift amount". After the sex, then find out what the real desired amount is and you can make a decision the next time if you want to go there.

BigTigg.

**BigTigger** · 10-18-13 09:17

Originally Posted by FScott [View Original Post]

First, let me welcome you to the Bowl. You say you have read about half the journal, so you know it is unbelievably rewarding, and unbelievably frustrating, in equal measures.
I'm afraid I must disagree with my friend Brother Fred on this one. To my eye, this looks like an example of the latter, and if I were you, I'd cast my fly elsewhere. Most likely, you will never land this little fish, and if by some miracle you do, it will not be a prime experience. Touching your penis is a cornerstone, I'm afraid, and it's clear she is not committed to the realities of the SB / SD lifestyle. Some of these women, especially the young ones, imagine that they can get the sugar without taking their panties off. Part of that erroneous thinking is created by sheer fantasy, and part by the increasing press the Bowl seems to be getting.

Whatever the reason, she's got a bad attitude, and no matter how hot she is, it will not be fun. My advice would be to turn her aside politely, let her eyes be opened by a few other experiences, and contact her in a month or so, just touching base. She may be more realistic by then, and grateful that you were such a gentleman compared to the douchebags she's met in the interim, and will be more willing to play the game.

Or not. Either way, in my opinion this is a losing situation, and your time is better spent looking for other catches.

Good luck, and keep us abreast of the situation.

Scott.

I agree with Scott on this one. When it comes to these types of women. I simply say " I don't like for the allowance / funds to get ahead of the relationship". You could add and "if we can't move both along at the same time, I'm going to have to move along because maybe we are not the best fit". Then if she takes the bait and asks how to keep them in balance, you can then let her know how the panties and money are related and include amounts. I don't see any money upfront in this case as an investment. She's trying to get the most and give the least.

BT.

**F Scott** · 10-17-13 22:07

My brothers,

After a long, long journey, I am finally in New Orleans, and have made contact with my Obsession. I am bringing breakfast to her apartment tomorrow morning, and she has promised to still be in her pj's when I arrive. Scottie and I are delirious with anticipation, and frankly I am hoping that I will strain something.

Sadly, my SO will arrive tomorrow afternoon, so I need to get all my playtime in before noon. Has anyone died from too many orgasms?

I'll be doing my best to find out.

Adios perhaps or hopefully.

Scott.

**Member #5570** · 10-17-13 20:12

Originally Posted by FScott [View Original Post]

First, let me welcome you to the Bowl. You say you have read about half the journal, so you know it is unbelievably rewarding, and unbelievably frustrating, in equal measures.
I'm afraid I must disagree with my friend Brother Fred on this one. To my eye, this looks like an example of the latter, and if I were you, I'd cast my fly elsewhere.

Scott.

I have to agree with Scottie here.

Even if you pay her 500 to suck your dick, her attitude alone would tell you the experience would be garbage. You be better off paying a SW 20 bucks to clean your pipe. I guarantee you will get a better blow job.

There are way too many pussies out there waiting to be seduced and entertained by our magical cocks that it's not worth another minute wasted on this girl. Move on and find better cookies, they're out there.

Smoke,

**FredMoore** · 10-17-13 18:48

In the spirit of the bowl, one of the last HYBs I talked to prior to my sabbatical has come back pushing for a meeting. Her pics show her to be my type, a pretty cute spinner 27 yr old looking to be a 7 /8.5/7/? She seems persistent and has a FC that we might be able to play in. She is open to an initial FC meeting sight unseen, no contact requested or mentioned but implied, and the $$ left up to me to be "fair ".

Hoo Boy! I know it sounds too good to be true but if I take the plunge what do you guys think I should donate after the deed? My funds are monitored so it is all I can do to keep my ATF in Chanel. $100 is the most I could go and it would be nice to score some lower rates like some of you studs have been doing.

I don't care if this works but it would be nice to have a cheap fuck buddy on tap in my area. Having said that I don't want to come across as being too cheap. I actually care what they think which is possibly my problem.

**F Scott** · 10-17-13 18:29

Originally Posted by LandonR [View Original Post]

Met a 19 year old HCB this week for a M&G which turned into a lunch date.

Went on a second date the following day proceeded to some making out, a little tittie action and her giving me a lame HJ and then her watching me finish it.

Today I get some messages asking for $300 for an expense she has. I decline and say that I'm prepared to pay her a $100 a date once our relationship progresses to the next level. She comes back asking for at least some money for the time we hung out and is put off with the notion of only being paid if we hook up. And I quote;

"so my company on our dates wasn't pleasant? Are you only going to pay me when I touch your penis like I'm some kind of prostitute?"

How to proceed? It seems as if she's agreeable to $100 a visit and she's smoking hot 19 year old.

First, let me welcome you to the Bowl. You say you have read about half the journal, so you know it is unbelievably rewarding, and unbelievably frustrating, in equal measures.
I'm afraid I must disagree with my friend Brother Fred on this one. To my eye, this looks like an example of the latter, and if I were you, I'd cast my fly elsewhere. Most likely, you will never land this little fish, and if by some miracle you do, it will not be a prime experience. Touching your penis is a cornerstone, I'm afraid, and it's clear she is not committed to the realities of the SB / SD lifestyle. Some of these women, especially the young ones, imagine that they can get the sugar without taking their panties off. Part of that erroneous thinking is created by sheer fantasy, and part by the increasing press the Bowl seems to be getting.

Whatever the reason, she's got a bad attitude, and no matter how hot she is, it will not be fun. My advice would be to turn her aside politely, let her eyes be opened by a few other experiences, and contact her in a month or so, just touching base. She may be more realistic by then, and grateful that you were such a gentleman compared to the douchebags she's met in the interim, and will be more willing to play the game.

Or not. Either way, in my opinion this is a losing situation, and your time is better spent looking for other catches.

Good luck, and keep us abreast of the situation.

Scott.

**LandonR** · 10-17-13 16:53

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

We all try to control our expenses and make our deals solid. But these are women we are talking about and a little risk is part of the game. Just remember it needs to be an amount that you are willing to walk away from. And do not be mad or hurt if she bolts with your money.

A lot of this game is your attitude.

Revvo.

Thanks for the advice guys. She sent another message today asking if I was coming by to drop something off for her. Decided that I'm going to mail her a $50 gift card in the mail. Wasn't the $300 she was looking for but a bit of good faith and well see if I can get the $100 date in the future. She's played this game before. I haven't.

**Revvo** · 10-17-13 13:57

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

I assume that you want to give this girl a chance.

Tell her that you did not give her money for touching your penis last date because you did not want to demean her and think of her as a prostitute.

Going to the next level means that you will agree on a meaningful relationship which will of course include sex and an allowance.

Consider floating her $50 to 100 as advance money but be prepared to lose it and have her go dark. Depends on your feel for the situation so to speak.

None of us think advance money is advisable but we all do it from time to time and sometimes it works out.

We all try to control our expenses and make our deals solid. But these are women we are talking about and a little risk is part of the game. Just remember it needs to be an amount that you are willing to walk away from. And do not be mad or hurt if she bolts with your money.

A lot of this game is your attitude.

Revvo.

**FredMoore** · 10-17-13 09:48

Originally Posted by LandonR [View Original Post]

Brand new to the game but have read through the majority of the thread.

Met a 19 year old HCB this week for a M&G which turned into a lunch date.

Went on a second date the following day proceeded to some making out, a little tittie action and her giving me a lame HJ and then her watching me finish it. Terms of the arrangement haven't been discussed thus far and no sugar exchanged as I didn't see any services rendered.

Today I get some messages asking for $300 for an expense she has. I decline and say that I'm prepared to pay her a $100 a date once our relationship progresses to the next level. She comes back asking for at least some money for the time we hung out and is put off with the notion of only being paid if we hook up. And I quote;

"so my company on our dates wasn't pleasant? Are you only going to pay me when I touch your penis like I'm some kind of prostitute?"

How to proceed? It seems as if she's agreeable to $100 a visit and she's smoking hot 19 year old.

I assume that you want to give this girl a chance.

Tell her that you did not give her money for touching your penis last date because you did not want to demean her and think of her as a prostitute.

Going to the next level means that you will agree on a meaningful relationship which will of course include sex and an allowance.

Consider floating her $50 to 100 as advance money but be prepared to lose it and have her go dark. Depends on your feel for the situation so to speak.

None of us think advance money is advisable but we all do it from time to time and sometimes it works out.

**Golfcart** · 10-17-13 04:10

Way to go! For those who may not know, Literal2 is the father of this thread.

**Dsprdo** · 10-17-13 01:31

Originally Posted by JMartinez [View Original Post]

She wouldn't be where unless she needed money. Pay the $ let us know.

Just because she needs the money doesn't mean she will hold up her end. If you pay her up front you are betting on the come, as they say in Vegas (doesn't mean YOU are going to come).