Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[TriOval]

This one has been bugging me since years ago, so I'll post / pose it:
What is meant by my Cross Contamination title is the fact that dudes chasing street walkers are also seeing regular working girls. It weirds me out when I notice a username and I check their history and see he's straddling both worlds. And they are worlds apart. Or at least so I think. I mean that down isn't taking tests, and is doing all kinds of nasty stuff on a nightly basis. Forget the humanity for a sec, and then you get a BBJ from her for next to nothing and then go see one of the regular girls. No thanks. And when I see that, that chick will never get a call from me. I can't tell if the quality on the board is getting low, because some the women are about close to street walker level and then come the experiences that sound what you would experience from that sector. Please stay away from the girls, and girls, refuse to see those dudes. But it's a two fold thing as I see it.
The debate will rage on about dudes beating down prices, I can't help but see the correlation. But there's always the argument of overpaying. I want quality, but we ain't getting it lately. Not you EE, you're good. I want chicks like Shelly Nineteen and a couple of the blondes that came and went. But we're never going to get it with people bitching about rates.
It's says Escort Ads, not Street Walker ads. But again, I'm having a hard time telling.

Does anyone else here think this is short sighted? This is where you feel unsafe? I'm sorry but I feel this is a close minded, and misguided belief. I am not trying to berate you here..but think about what you are saying. SW's and low priced SP's are the only women who have STD's? Really? I must have missed that day in health class. Here are some facts:

1) "regular working girls" (as you call them) see just as many different men as SW's (maybe more).

2) some "regular working girls" even offer BBFS so there is that.

3) economics has NOTHING to do with safe sex, or chances you will catch an STD.

4) unprotected sex of any kind with multiple partners is risky .5) what if I get a FREE BBBJ from a clerk I meet at sax 5th avenue..and then see a regular gal will you see her? (maybe you already have by proxy).

6) what if I have PROTECTED sex with a heroine addicted SW for a McChicken sandwich is IT OK by you that I participate in the "regular board"?

What about the guys who see SW's and don't post about it? How do you know who they see? Feel safe now? Know the risks of what you are doing here with ANYONE. We all have multiple sex partners...this is risky business...be safe...and get tested regularly.

Peace.

[Admin2]

I think your getting soft old boy! (bet you've heard THAT more than once!) .

Not since Pfizer released vitamin V. On the dinner thing. I got a steady down here that REFUSES any compensation unless we have sex. If she has time to kill and feels like hanging out she will give me a call and come over for tea. Tomorrow we are going to dinner and a movie, if we don't make the beast with two backs she's happy to just spend time with a nice guy. Most of the guys down here, while good looking, are nightmares.

[Loki Pk]

In general I agree with you Bird, but in this case it wasn't an issue of not being PC, it really was douchey.

A2.

Awwww, c'mon. Ma!!!! Tell us tell us! And just my 2 cents,.... BUT!! TOO DOUCHEY for the 'Octagon'? I think your getting soft old boy! (bet you've heard THAT more than once!) .

Peace.

PK.

[Loki Pk]

"We goin' Sizzler!! We goin' Sizzler!

WOO HOO- Big spenders! .

I would say if you have never met before, then you should expect to compensate her for 'all' of her time. If you have met and are 'comfortable' together then maybe dinner is just 'dinner' assuming you are, in fact, going 4-5 star- (I mean really guys, your spending money for 'adult fun'- you better be able to spring for more then 'Golden Corral' .

All in, the only real answer is YMMV. But you should not expect 'any' of her time to be free.

Peace.

PK.

[HuntLadys29]

I agree with Tri on this one. My time is my time, however if you booked two hours then I wouldn't have a problem throwing dinner in there with that two hours. Or fun first for two hoursand then go to dinner. Now if you had no references, that would be a different story. I will also do a dinner date which consists of about 3 hours depending on how long dinner takes and where we go. Good luck hun!

So if you go to Applebee's the dinner date is a get to know you date and you must be compensated for your time but if you go to Ruth's Chris or The Precient that changes things, I'm thinking if you take a lady to dinner she would appreciate a spoiler dinner before or after the booking. Did he suggest a nice restraunt or did he just suggest dinner? I'm sure she doesn't want to commit to a dinner date and it turns out to be TGIF or Applebee's she can go there on her own, suggest a 4-5 star restraunt and see what she says, don't just say dinner that can mean eating anywhere.

[Smokey Gringo]

This one has been bugging me since years ago, so I'll post / pose it:

What is meant by my Cross Contamination title is the fact that dudes chasing street walkers are also seeing regular working girls. It weirds me out when I notice a username and I check their history and see he's straddling both worlds. And they are worlds apart. Or at least so I think. I mean that down isn't taking tests, and is doing all kinds of nasty stuff on a nightly basis. Forget the humanity for a sec, and then you get a BBJ from her for next to nothing and then go see one of the regular girls. No thanks. And when I see that, that chick will never get a call from me. I can't tell if the quality on the board is getting low, because some the women are about close to street walker level and then come the experiences that sound what you would experience from that sector. Please stay away from the girls, and girls, refuse to see those dudes. But it's a two fold thing as I see it.

The debate will rage on about dudes beating down prices, I can't help but see the correlation. But there's always the argument of overpaying. I want quality, but we ain't getting it lately. Not you EE, you're good. I want chicks like Shelly Nineteen and a couple of the blondes that came and went. But we're never going to get it with people bitching about rates.

It's says Escort Ads, not Street Walker ads. But again, I'm having a hard time telling.

[Admin2]

I have always as I think most providers offer a discounted rate for multiple hour appointments, so I can see the lady asking for a donation for her time with dinner, but at a discounted rate being that you also want 2 hour bcd time. If the lady you contacted is asking for her full donation, and not offering a discount, no I don't think you are being unreasonable expecting a discount. Just my two cents.

I also think that most providers would offer a TLN (todo la noche) price. I certainly wouldn't see one that expected to earn as much per hour eating dinner as they did blowing me. But I don't understand a lot of what is considered customary up there. I read a report the other day where some chick said she wouldn't do cowgirl. WTF? Not saying she doesn't have the right to say no to whatever, but still WTF?

[Member #4570]

I would expect that the provider was to be paid for all her time regardless of whether it is dinner or fun. However, I would also expect that a 3 hour date not cost the same as three separate 1 hour encounters. If you look at most providers rates, their 1 hour date is not double their 30 minute rate which indicates that there is a discount the longer you book. On the same note, if you look at an overnight rate, it is rarely the cost of 12 x 1 hours encounters.

-BigBird69.

I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks!

[HelpMeRhonda]

I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks!

I have always as I think most providers offer a discounted rate for multiple hour appointments, so I can see the lady asking for a donation for her time with dinner, but at a discounted rate being that you also want 2 hour bcd time. If the lady you contacted is asking for her full donation, and not offering a discount, no I don't think you are being unreasonable expecting a discount. Just my two cents.

[Cameron X]

If a particular provider is busy and turning away appointments to spend four hours with you but you only want to pay her for two discounted hours, she is losing money and probably will not be able to fulfill your request. However, perhaps you are booking with a provider who isn't as busy and she doesn't mind spending four hours with you at a two hour discounted rate because she doesn't have the business in the first place, so she isn't really losing anything. While some providers may go for this, most expect to be compensated. Unless the provider knows you and enjoys spending time with you, then there maybe some flexibility in the situation.

I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks!

[TriOval]

I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right?

Yes, it does seem right. While some gals offer dinner+ dates as an all inclusive, some do not. If you want her company for two hours...you pay for two hours...after all it is her time you are paying for eh?

Now I will say I find this rare, especially currently. Most (local) women are more than happy to have a nice meal, and will do so off the clock (provided there is a booked date following). Traveling women most likely will not include it...as an hour of their time is critical when they are only in town for a day. Though some will jump at the chance to get out of the hotel.

I would see her for two hours...then ask if she wants dinner after.

[MainStreet]

I know you are tired of discussing providers rates but I have a question that I'd like a little feedback on. I wasn't sure where to put this so I settled here. I'll be out of town for a couple of days in the near future. I have been researching their local talent. I contacted a lady and offered a nice dinner at my hotel with a two hour encounter to follow. She informed that she was to be paid while at dinner. Two hours are the same value as two one hour encounters. I had a similar response from my number two pick. Does this sound right? Now I understand that this makes me sound kinda cheap but a couple of years ago when I was traveling regularly this was my standard practice. I would invite the lady to dinner to break the ice and get comfortable then upstairs for a couple of hours. I was never asked to figure meal time into her compensation. The second hour has always been discounted in my experience. I am hoping for a little feedback in open forum especially from the ladies. What do you think? Are things different or am I just spoiled. Thanks!

[SilkyWetness]

I would give you a line up if you do. This new one is seriously rocking my world. I saw her again today.

I can do better.

[Admin2]

Well, we already knew you were a douche. I mean what kind of person would just flaunt all that hot tail right in our faces when they know that it is way out of reach for us!?

If my company ever gets a contract down in your neck of the woods, I'm volunteering to head down there and handle it. It would be one heck of a sacrifice for the good of my company.

-BigBird69.

I would give you a line up if you do. This new one is seriously rocking my world. I saw her again today.

[Member #4570]

Well, we already knew you were a douche. I mean what kind of person would just flaunt all that hot tail right in our faces when they know that it is way out of reach for us!?

If my company ever gets a contract down in your neck of the woods, I'm volunteering to head down there and handle it. It would be one heck of a sacrifice for the good of my company.

-BigBird69.

In general I agree with you Bird, but in this case it wasn't an issue of not being PC, it really was douchey.

A2.