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  3. #3786

    The Police?

    Quote Originally Posted by kman1  [View Original Post]
    Had a horrible experience at Toychest last weekend when I visited Detroit. The first girl I had was a gem, great BBBJCIM for 1 bill. Got carried away and overlooked all the warning signs of a scamstress on the next one. My plan was to repeat with the first one but against my better judgement went with this Ukranian (she claimed to be but looked a little Persian) , stage name Sylvania. She is older, short and stout. She agreed to do the same as I got with the first one for same price. I needed some time so I had couple of drinks with her and paid for her drinks. Once we go in after paying for VIP, she wants me to pay first saying there have been some recent issues (another warning sign. Never pay first). I paid the 1 bill we agreed on and she does little bit of a teaser dance for a song and while I am waiting for her to start, she says that she cannot do anything but dance in the club and she meant to do other services outside the club. I was pissed, not a whole lot I could do, I was trying to at least get my 5 dances. At the end of the second song she says the dances are up and walks away. What a fucking *

    I complained to the bouncers and they went got her and did some drama and twisted the story saying they only found 60 on her purse (yeah right) and she went halfway into the 3rd song and I asked for illegal services and she walked out (really?). She says the most she can return is $10. She had this crooked laugh like I am not going to get anywhere.

    Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else!
    WoW I'm not even from Detroit and I have to comment on this one The Police man what a wuss you better or need to get out of the game if you're running to Leo when you get scammed, buddy you aren't the only one to ever get taken in this game and you won't be the last, you better be glad you didn't go back to that club they probably really had something for you a knuckle sandwich. Grow up guy or get out the game, I'd be real surprised if anybody on the Detroit board ever give you any info, if you we're on the Cincinnati board I wouldn't.

  4. #3785
    Quote Originally Posted by kman1  [View Original Post]
    Had a horrible experience at Toychest last weekend when I visited Detroit. The first girl I had was a gem, great BBBJCIM for 1 bill. Got carried away and overlooked all the warning signs of a scamstress on the next one. My plan was to repeat with the first one but against my better judgement went with this Ukranian (she claimed to be but looked a little Persian) , stage name Sylvania. She is older, short and stout. She agreed to do the same as I got with the first one for same price. I needed some time so I had couple of drinks with her and paid for her drinks. Once we go in after paying for VIP, she wants me to pay first saying there have been some recent issues (another warning sign. Never pay first). I paid the 1 bill we agreed on and she does little bit of a teaser dance for a song and while I am waiting for her to start, she says that she cannot do anything but dance in the club and she meant to do other services outside the club. I was pissed, not a whole lot I could do, I was trying to at least get my 5 dances. At the end of the second song she says the dances are up and walks away. What a fucking *

    I complained to the bouncers and they went got her and did some drama and twisted the story saying they only found 60 on her purse (yeah right) and she went halfway into the 3rd song and I asked for illegal services and she walked out (really?). She says the most she can return is $10. She had this crooked laugh like I am not going to get anywhere.

    Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else!
    This is a joke, right?

  5. #3784
    Quote Originally Posted by kman1  [View Original Post]
    Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else!
    You went to the police? I don't know if you broke a major forum rule or not, but take that incident as a learning experience! But don't ever talk to law enforcement about anything!

  6. #3783

    Sylvania Toychest

    Had a horrible experience at Toychest last weekend when I visited Detroit. The first girl I had was a gem, great BBBJCIM for 1 bill. Got carried away and overlooked all the warning signs of a scamstress on the next one. My plan was to repeat with the first one but against my better judgement went with this Ukranian (she claimed to be but looked a little Persian) , stage name Sylvania. She is older, short and stout. She agreed to do the same as I got with the first one for same price. I needed some time so I had couple of drinks with her and paid for her drinks. Once we go in after paying for VIP, she wants me to pay first saying there have been some recent issues (another warning sign. Never pay first). I paid the 1 bill we agreed on and she does little bit of a teaser dance for a song and while I am waiting for her to start, she says that she cannot do anything but dance in the club and she meant to do other services outside the club. I was pissed, not a whole lot I could do, I was trying to at least get my 5 dances. At the end of the second song she says the dances are up and walks away. What a fucking *****!

    I complained to the bouncers and they went got her and did some drama and twisted the story saying they only found 60 on her purse (yeah right) and she went halfway into the 3rd song and I asked for illegal services and she walked out (really?). She says the most she can return is $10. She had this crooked laugh like I am not going to get anywhere.

    Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else!

  7. #3782

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by RogerC  [View Original Post]
    That's a solid report. And (from my perspective) a pretty good deal (especially since she was cool with the audible DATY and RJ.)

    Frankly, if you're happy with the price / performance ratio, don't sweat what other people think. What's the point of squeezing an extra 10 bucks out of the deal if it kills the buzz.
    I agree that it is a very solid report, especially this early in the game. I have to commend you on your reading retention skills. You are correct in not being too upset about the finish. CIM should be part of the negotiation if that is what you want. Negotiating more into the session for a reasonable rate (reasonable being what you are willing to pay) was also a veteran move. If in the middle of a session you see a way to enhance it for a few more bucks, go for it every time. As for FS in a club, you are doing very well to get it for under $. It can be done, especially at the end of dayshift when the girls have had a rough day, but it is tough, especially with the better looking girls.

    As for worrying about paying too much, etc, RogerC is right. Don't worry about what other people think. You are mongering for you, not for anyone else. All we ask is that you post your experiences. Because of the forum you are mongering with more information and therefore more skill, but it is still for you. I get some flack every once in a while because I am willing to pay street girls for pictures. A lot of guys don't want to pay for pictures and say I spoil it for them. One of my hobbies outside of this hobby is photography, so it is worth it to me to pay for nude pics. If that makes people upset, too bad. This forum is supposed to be an exchange of information. It is not supposed to be a bunch of mongers banding together to hold prices down like a bunch of soccer moms. Welcome to the board, Elwood.

    Stay safe out there
    Last edited by TwoWheeler21; 10-02-13 at 21:47. Reason: Add text

  8. #3781

    Solid Report.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood88  [View Original Post]
    I offered an additional. 2, and down the panties came. She offered me her front which I gladly accepted for a bit, but let's be honest here: when I get a couple of beers in me, I really just want to put my tongue up her ass. I spun her around and had my way with her buttcunt for another half song or so. Back to BBBJ, and it didn't take too much longer. I started to CIM but she quickly went to some sort or baby wipe catching thing. She never stopped with the hand, and considering we never discussed the finishing details, I can't complain too much. The deal was. 50 (+ the audible of. 20 for the DATY and RJ). I gave her. 2 tip for a total of. 9. Too much? Should she have swallowed? Should I have got FS for that price? Am I missing any details? Is this post too fucking long! I really have no idea. I'll let you experienced types break it down.
    That's a solid report. And (from my perspective) a pretty good deal (especially since she was cool with the audible DATY and RJ.)

    Frankly, if you're happy with the price / performance ratio, don't sweat what other people think. What's the point of squeezing an extra 10 bucks out of the deal if it kills the buzz.

  9. #3780

    Christina at Bogart's

    At exactly 1:53 last night, as I am walking out of Bogart's after having had a very memorably hot time with Miami, I see a girl who stops me dead in my tracks. I actually make a U-turn after walking half way to my car, thinking that although I am spent, I must see this hottie again.

    They're about to close so Christina cannot give me a dance. Being 10 minutes removed from one that drained my balls, it's astonishing I even asked. But that is how mesmerized I was.

    I am leaving town on Thursday and would love to start an evening with her rather than end one. I would even postpone my departure to see her, if. She has game in the VIP area.

    Does anyone know who I'm talking about? She's got these incredibly large almond shaped eyes and ta-tas that are, as they say, bodacious, with enormous areolas. She has straight light brown hair that drops to her shoulders (maybe farther) and is parted off-center. She has a bit of a cool demeanor I would say, but that might just be because it was closing time. Certainly friendly enough but not over-the-top congenial.

    Please post quickly if you recognize who I'm talking about. Don't want to leave without her. Or at least playing with her!

  10. #3779

    3 hole peelers

    Drew: Check your personal messages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew93  [View Original Post]
    Ask away I am more then willing to give said info out.

  11. #3778

    Inkster Oddessey

    Ok, you can tell by my report count that I am about as much of a noob as is gets in the game. I've been R (ing) TFF for the past 6 months or so in all sections, but nevertheless, I'm expecting (and looking forward to) at least some criticism from you seniors out there. That being said here's how the night played out:

    I work at a rather popular restaurant Downtown. Due to a new way of scheduling the staff, the bar I work now gets off early instead of having to close the place down. The girlfriend does not know this yet. That gave me about 3-4 extra hours that I would have otherwise not had.

    My ambition started out pretty modest. I'd heard about a couple of bars called The Mustang Inn and Bronco's Saloon. Seeing as I had so much extra time I opted to check one of them out and grab a beer.

    Wow. The uniform consists of a fishnet body suit and panties underneath. Tits just hanging out. Awesome.

    One beer led to another, and I ended up at the other one which is just a few minutes away. Same deal. Now, I'm by no means a Toby Keith fan, but. I love these bars.

    Seeing as I'd been staring at some spinner's tits for the past couple of rounds, and I'd accumulated 45 or so ounces of beer in my system, my little brain led me over to a place I'd never been before: Bogarts. There seemed to be 7 or 8 dancers there. Now I only had a about. 65 to my name, so after the. 05 admission and. 075 for a beer with tip, I really didn't have a lot to offer the ladies. A few approached me at the bar chatted a bit, then went off to explore greener pastures after I gave them the bad news about how much I had available. A buxom blonde offered me a couple dances, but my days of going to the strip club without some satisfaction died when the last of my good friends got married.

    After one or two more quick chats, I realized that it was either get more money, or go home to bed.

    After a quick visit to the ATM, I entered H8N at about 1:15. About the same amount of dancers, but a little less busy due to the fact that Bogie's had their 1/2 off dance night and H8's was the night prior. As far as the attraction scale goes, for a guy who had not had a BJ in over three years, everyone was a 10 (dangerous, I know) Armed with a better bankroll, I paid the. 05 to get in, popped a squat at the bar and ordered another beer (same price). Before I could even take a sip, the girl who was eyeballing me as I walked in (Heather) was sitting to my left. We chatted a bit about how slow our jobs were that night (I work for tips too, just not in the same way) and how her daughter scored 9 goals in her soccer game recently.

    The conversation then abruptly turned to VIP. Though I had not been in a SC for several years, I was filled with the knowledge and confidence of several months of reading this forum, so I asked what that entailed. She seemed up for anything. Quoted a few prices, though I don't remember the details. I told her I had a slow night and didn't have much to work with, and she offered a BJ for. 5 plus. 1 for VIP tax. I countered with BBBJ and "how long?" She responded by inquiring about my cleanliness and saying that it usually takes about 3 songs.

    Off we went. We got to the back, I handed the guy. 1, he slapped a wristband on me and we hit the last room on the left. I unbuttoned, and she took it from there. Went right into BBBJ. I'm not going to lie, she could have chewed on me like a piece of beef jerky, I would have been ecstatic about being in a woman's mouth after so long. She kept a nice rhythm, pausing briefly once or twice to catch her breath. No DT, but some nice hand accompaniment to go along the the slurping noise. About two songs in, the beer started to have it's Mr. Hyde effect on me, and I knew I had to taste her as well. I put the offer to her when she paused for breath, but she seemed worried about the time she was spending with me and what she would be expected to collect.

    I offered an additional. 2, and down the panties came. She offered me her front which I gladly accepted for a bit, but let's be honest here: when I get a couple of beers in me, I really just want to put my tongue up her ass. I spun her around and had my way with her buttcunt for another half song or so. Back to BBBJ, and it didn't take too much longer. I started to CIM but she quickly went to some sort or baby wipe catching thing. She never stopped with the hand, and considering we never discussed the finishing details, I can't complain too much. The deal was. 50 (+ the audible of. 20 for the DATY and RJ). I gave her. 2 tip for a total of. 9. Too much? Should she have swallowed? Should I have got FS for that price? Am I missing any details? Is this post too fucking long! I really have no idea. I'll let you experienced types break it down.

    Any questions, just let me know. I'll do my best to recall the events.

    'night.

    -Elwood

  12. #3777

    Everyman

    Thanks for posting the details of your experience as you did, as it shows the importance of reading the forum.

    More important, you describe yourself as an "introvert" yet covered all the "basics" while conversing with the dancers and reported "how open and casual the discussion of service was in the club". This will help other "newbies".

    To each his own, but, if you find the right black dancer, you will thank me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Osyluth  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone. Longtime lurker, first time poster. After reading the forums for a long time, and having the day off and feeling a little randy, I decided to treat myself to a visit to BTs. I got there around 2:00 in the afternoon. My first thoughts was that it was a decent club, seemed clean, and way, WAY nicer than the clubs in Jackson (where I'm from). Anyway, there were about 10 girls working. None of them really "Wowed" me initially, a lot of 6's and 7s (all way nicer than any tail I'd normally get, I'll admit). I came prepared with some rubbers, and my peeler cash in my pocket, away from my wallet and real cash. A couple girls stopped by my table, not too pushy, all quite friendly in the typical fake stripper way. I'm not into black girls, and that was all that was stopping by initially, so that was unfortunate. One girl caught my eye, even though she was the thickest girl in the club (which is ok, I prefer skinny girls, but she was cute, and I'm a big guy, so whatever). Her name was Tabby, a long haired brunette, and she was easy to converse with, and quite likeable. She asked me for a dance, I asked her what her prices were, and what was on the menu. She said full service, anything butat$$play, for $150. I negotiated her down to $130 (should've done less, but it was my first time). Was pretty amazed (and grateful) how open and casual the discussion of service was in the club. So, we made our way to the VIP booth, and had our full service fun. Like I said, likeable girl, everything covered, fully shaved, natural B's (a little floppy) , provided BJ, HJ, a few different positions in FS. Lots of FIV and kissing was allowed, so I had a good time, and she pretended she did too. A little rushed, but nothing too crazy.

    I went back to my table, and had a few more drinks, catching up on ESPN on my phone and enjoying the ladies on the stage. When "Izzy" came off the stage, she came over to my table and started chatting (I liked her name was Izzy, be / see I'm a GnR fan, and she was a very cute blonde). She said she was bummed that she had seen me get a dance already, (my 1st dance was about an hour before this) , be / see she said I could've got one with her. I said "I still can, if the price is right." We went through a menu discussion, where she said FS but no at $$play, it was $200, but she'd take $150. Now, she's a cute blonde with a ROCKING body (all natural, tight stomach, very perky B's). I told her I only had $140 in my pocket, and I'd need $20 for VIP and some cash for valet, so I'd be willing to do $110. She said "alright, but don't tell anyone", which, I'm obviously telling no one. So back we went. This chick is quite hot, and VERY enthusiastic. Great body, tight shaved kitty, BJ was offered covered or not. FS was obviously covered. Absolutely no rush from her, and again, lots of FIV and DFK. Lots of moaning, and seemed to really enjoy her time with me (I know I did). DEFINITELY would repeat. All in all, it cost me $8 on the valet, $4 in bathroom tips, $40 for VIP fees, $110 and $130 for some FS fun and $30 in drinks. $322 total. I left there financially and fluidly drained.

    I just want to take a second and say thanks to everyone who's posted lessons on how to frequent the clubs, especially the senior members. I've never got any service from a club before, and this was a way better experience than my normal trips to the strip clubs. From reading this site for several months, I felt I had read the "instruction manual" on attending clubs, so even an introverted guy like myself could go in to the club and not be taken complete advantage of (one girl tried to tell me $25 per song, and extras on top of that, when I told her it was my first time there). I had my cash ready in my pocket. I negotiated AT the table. I paid AFTER services were rendered. I FULLY defined the conditions of our FS agreements at the table, including song times, rushing, etc. I even waited until they were done on stage, and not grabbing them walking around, so that they wouldn't interrupt our session by getting called up to the stage. The only real mistake I felt I made was I could've negotiated the 1st one cheaper. Anyway, thanks again to everyone who has posted tips and do's and don'ts. It really does help newbs like myself.

    Osy

  13. #3776
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1019
    Quote Originally Posted by BillCarman1  [View Original Post]
    Any Asians in the area dancing?
    There one at Players day shift.

  14. #3775

    Henry viii

    Went to sample the 10$ Monday night.

    Sampled couple of talents. One with a tall black girl, she was nice to talk to and another booby tall black chic.

    Then took Diana a bbw type of young girl. Thought of trying it once (I am not a bbw guy).

    She said its her first month in the club and said she is doing her bachelors. Went to VIP booth and after two songs she asked me whether I would like to go for FS. She said. 8, once agreed, she cover my little head gave BJ and took k9 to finish. She took pounding. I gave her $.

    I may not try bbw in future in sc (that's why I go there).

    ENT. 05, drinks. 2, VIP tax. 1, fun1. 3, pizza. 05.

    Overall OK trip with lack of talents. I was there at seven so not sure its timing.

  15. #3774

    Asians

    Quote Originally Posted by BillCarman1  [View Original Post]
    Any Asians in the area dancing?
    There are a couple of cute Asians working at the Coliseum. I usually see them on the weekend nights.

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