"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Member #4103]

Obviously different areas have a different concentration on particular sites. Now I've made it a point to try to have success on each site that I actively work. The only one to really seem like too much work was tagged. For me, here are my rankings. I've gotten goodies through these sites in the following states (VA, DC, MD, NC, PA, DE, Stl (MO) , NJ, CO, OH)

1. SA.

2. CL (High success rate, but lower quality)

3. Sugar Daddie (I love the instant Messenger feature)

4. Arrangement Finders (Moving up the list, still needs a lot more members)

5. SD4Me

6. Ashley Madision (too much money + too much time)

My $.02, fwiw. I've only used SA and Ashley Madison. And SA is waaay better. Hotter chicks who want to serve you. I actually had an AM hookup once who got mad at me because she did not cum. WTF.

I'd agree AM is expensive, and it takes TONS of work. Having said that, its paid off big for me a few times with insatiable milfs wanting all the free sex I could give them. But it does take awhile. One note on AM, I'm pretty sure many of the profiles are fake, I wonder if the site puts them up to make it look like more women are on there. If you see profile with no photos and only a one-sentence "looking to break the monotony of everyday life" kind of thing, well, theres a ton of those on there and I'm guessing they are fake.

Would love to hear how those of you on CL do it, never really tried that.

Got to head out. Insatiable MILF waiting.

[Marcus Weiner]

Hey Tig is it #3 from the top or bottom. Top is the very sexy AA girl, bottom is the waifish looking Caucasian brunette. The one on the bottom I'm working on to cure her Syndrome and make her realize that her Pussy is not made of Gold. Here's 2 more pics of the AA girl. She is a complete waste of time with no sense of humor. A true Gold-digger and not worth my time. MW.

I can veirfy #3 is GPS. Way up there!

[Rainjam]

The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.

I am a CL man, looking to expand my grazing ground, excellent executive summary on where to look.

Safe and Happy grazing

[BigTigger]

. Anyway, if you play on WYP or even SA and live in the Baltimore DC area, do not waste your time with these GPS POT's or charlatans.

I can veirfy #3 is GPS. Way up there!

[BigTigger]

To good to be true, always is.

I will update more later, but in rapid fire.

She is bi and has a gf, who has a key. So I have to treat her like she is married.

She requires little money but lots of attention.

Bad oral hygiene

Ok, I have more time to go into details. We've now seen each other about 5 or 6 times. She absolutely loves sex and doesn't care if it's long or short. We had our second hotel date Thursday night. It was supposed to be a hotel-dinner-hotel date, but we never made it out of the hotel the first time. Never ate any food. I had just put $.4 in her account for the week, so she was happy so I only needed to give. 2 for the sitter.

As we were getting ready for one of our dates, I asked her about being "bi" as it was stated on her profile. Then she finally let's me know that she has a GF who does not approve. So her being with me is actually cheating and would destroy her 1 year old relationship. I thanked her for the information, promised to do my part and told her she really should have told me this sooner. Now with that news in hand, I was a little disappointed because she presented herself as totally free and available. Her GF has a key to her place and is not used to her not being home when she calls, etc.

So already we had some mini-drama when I texted and the GF was using the phone. She doesn't have my number saved so when the response was "who is this", I knew what was up and followed along and just said I had the wrong number. Then one of our dates was cancelled because the GF came over and did not leave. During the hotel date, she fell asleep hard and we went way past the time. The GF was blowing up her phone. So eventually once we decided to leave around 12am, we had to make a mad dash back to her place, she had to call the sitter and make sure the GF did not come by, we had to do the "sshhhhh be quiet while I call her" thing. It's just as if she's married.

Now, I'm not giving up on her. But with this type of relationship that she has, I'll never be able to do some of the more fantasy SD things. But it's cool. She has a great personality, great body, the sex is great, she's very submissive and pretty much does what I tell her to do (barring gf conflicts of course). I do have this Sat, Sun and next Fri / Sat overnights free and I had originally planned to use her. Now I don't think she's going to be able to be my #1. She claims she's moved me out of SD status into BF status.

I asked what that means.

1. She's not dealing with any other men.

2. I can have the goodies any time that I like

3. She just wants attention, so money is not an issue.

4. I can give any amount of money at any time. There isn't an arrangement.

5. I can take pictures, etc. She's adopted using the phrase "anything for you".

We'll see how this goes.

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My ATF has found a man she's going to be in regular relationship with.

I have a date with MsCoolSlim tomorrow night. Her situation has gotten worse, but she appreciates my persistence.

Saw MsNurseBooty briefly yesterday. I was trying to drop her, but she's not having it, LOL. She was sick, I stopped by for 30 mins, took her some breakfast and. 40 in cash. I've not seen her in over a month.

MsLatinaMILF has a BF. So we are on pause

[BigTigger]

The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.

Obviously different areas have a different concentration on particular sites. Now I've made it a point to try to have success on each site that I actively work. The only one to really seem like too much work was tagged. For me, here are my rankings. I've gotten goodies through these sites in the following states (VA, DC, MD, NC, PA, DE, Stl (MO) , NJ, CO, OH)

1. SA.

2. CL (High success rate, but lower quality)

3. Sugar Daddie (I love the instant Messenger feature)

4. Arrangement Finders (Moving up the list, still needs a lot more members)

5. SD4Me

6. Ashley Madision (too much money + too much time)

[Expresso Jim]

Sorry for being so thick, but what is WYP? .

[HappyHunter44]

If they balk at gas money, then you know it really is a waste of time. You can also say,"if we decide to do more than meet and greet, of course I will give more. I just don't want the giving to be unbalanced with were we are in our SD / SB relationship."

BT

Got it. Thanks. That is a good line to have when in that situation.

[HollywoodGuy]

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...=280968889&ob=

$100 hahahaha my time is worth a million Dollars!

I get these all the time. Or "hey you"re cool, but I need $$"

[HollywoodGuy]

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...e&pmid=3960326

http://www.hogtied.com/site/shoot/32...-Name.html?c=1

ME. Whats the daily sponsorship rate. I only ask since you put it out there.

HER. $1000 is my minimum.

[HollywoodGuy]

The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.

I don't like SA. I like SD4M. I used to get hits off CL, but no more. AM and WYP seem like a ripoff from what I have read.

[Member #5570]

The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.

[TravelinSD]

I know there was some talk a bit ago about AM. I've also tried them out. Again they fall under the sites that are credits-based rather than a monthly charge.

I've bought credits twice on there. I'm 57, in good shape, not super handsome, but not ugly either, well-educated and can write fairly well. I've sent out 132 messages to women who were in their 20s to 40s. In all of that I have received two responses. One from a fairly hot 30 year old who I've had an on-going email relationship. I don't think she ever wants to really meet, she just wants to feel naughty by communicating with me. The other was a 30 year old, recently divorced, fugly. She seemed hot to trot, but I just couldn't bring myself to go through with it I found her so unattractive.

My opinion is that unless you are under 45, good looking, in great shape, and have lots of game, you're wasting your money. The ladies are pretty much in control there. The attractive ones get literally hundreds of responses and pretty much have their pick. And they are VERY picky. The majority of them are married which means to take the risk of having an affair they want it to be with their "perfect" man. The single ones are mostly looking for a sugar daddy or are UTR escorts. I have seen a few on there that had SA profiles as well. Even the 40s ones are cougars mostly looking for younger boy-toys. And I'll bet they're finding them.

I also feel that they also in some way compensate women to lure you into chat where you really burn the credits. I did receive a couple of offers to chat, and I always replied with my email and yahoo messenger info. I never heard from them there, LOL.

Anyway, that's my experience.

Travelin

[F Scott]

Check out Anderson Cooper 's show segment on WYP 12/10/2012. One woman was laughing about ripping off the guys who pay big bucks for wining and dining her. You could luck out and hit it off with your expensive date but this model is a loser as far as I can see. At least with SA sex is on the table unless otherwise stated. Saw a few profiles in my area sex was explicitly not an option. Really?

I think the WYP site puts an erroneous idea in their heads that sex does not have to be involved, and that guys will pay just for the pleasure of taking them out for drinks and dinner. It starts things out at an imbalance of power and I can't see how it can easily be surmounted. You've already demonstrated that you will pay for nothing, so why wouldn't they keep on offering you more of the same?

Now in all honesty, I've paid for dozens of coffees or white wines at m&gs and then things just never develop from there, but that is my choice to not pursue a relationship. I've also had a few babies from SA and SD4Me ask for compensation for their time to come to the m&g, but that doesn't even leave the starting gate. Only one time did I offer to give a baby money for gas, since she had driven an hour to meet me for lunch, and she totally freaked out and went postal on me! To this day I can't quite figure out why that made her so mad, but needless to say, her panties did not even come close to the floor!

I firmly believe that the kind of site like SA or SD, where the underlying implication is that if the two of you hit it off, have "chemistry", and agree on the sugar, the FC is the logical next stop, sets the same expectations in the minds of the SB and the SD. In all my years, I have never been tricked or ripped off by any baby, no matter how crazy they turn out to be.

Peace,

Scott

[TravelinSD]

Back when I was just getting into using SA and SDFM I did buy the minimum number of credits on there. I was pretty much trying all of the sites out. I went on 3 dates. All busts. Two were with women who ended up with profiles on SA. I'm not a fan of the credit-based sites anyway. They are definite boarder-edge rip offs. I do believe they either pay or give something to some women just to entice you into spending credits. I have an AM report that I'll post soon. They're also credit-based. I know someone on here was mentioning AF. They're credit-based also, right?

Travelin.

Any brother tried that website?

I made a few 100 per date offers and half of them got accepted, but I couldn't communicate with the girls.

You need to buy 100 credits ($50) to start unlocking their accepted offers for 20 credit each.

So if you don't cough up the $, you can't talk to any girl. At least SD4M and SA got some free monthly trial so you could give it a try.

This site looks a gold digger to me.