"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[WoodSlinger]

Just curious how many of you swordsmen are using Craigslist and having success. I have a couple of ads that work pretty damn well, I don't get dozens of replies unless you count the spam, but I do get quality replies. Testing ad types and wording has taught me a few things.

Tips.

1. Use verbiage that says "I can help" in an ad title that says something along the lines of Bills Suck. By far my most responded to ad.

2. Mentioning that you are looking for a sugar baby will often get your ad flagged.

3. Think outside the box. Casual encounters are full of leeches and SPAM magnets, talent gigs is not.

[HollywoodGuy]

I usually don't update on POTS. Its like at work when an agency tells me they are going to have something awesome in a week or two. Great. Tell me then. I only care about the here and now. But I get it. So here goes.

Sad to say I am going to have to break up with my 19 year old little princess. It's been six months and the sex just isn't what I was hoping for. So instead of just telling her goodbye and leaving her clueless (my usual m. o.). I tried to talk to her about it. It wasn't a mistake but its not going to change anything. The spontaneity just isn't there. Or the skills.

Its sad because she is such a looker. There are very few non GPS girls in her league. A few amazing romps in 6 months just doesn't cut it. I"ll try to see her once or twice a month, but I doubt that will work after finding her replacement. At this point she is a 10/10/8/6

POT 1. An 18 year old latina beauty school student. Works part time doing hair. We are having lunch tomorrow just to lay eyes on each other. Maybe a 7/8/8/?. She dropped off the site after a week. Not dating anyone.

POT 2. A 27 year old AA beauty. Spinner body. Full time job and goes to school at night for her B. A. Maybe a 9/9/9/?. She dropped off the site after 3 days. No meeting set up. Just trying to warm her up. Not dating anyone,

POT 3. A 20 year old mixed AA / white bi spinner and her dark spinner AA GF that I did a M&G with a year ago. I went to see them ostensibly to hit the FC at their place. I got there and they said we had to get a room. I declined as the total damage would have been $$$ and set up a meeting for later in the week. A week later the mixed one calls me and says she wants to fuck me right now. I just came back home from doin my SB at the time and declined again. That failed as the mixed one suddenly moved back to N California for health reasons. I sent her a $ because I felt sorry for her and then lost touch with her. Suddenly she pops up today, says she moved back to L. A. And asks me over. I will probably see her Thursday to see if the chemistry is still there. Maybe a 8/8/8/?. She just went back on the site today. She is very adventurous in every way. This might work.

POT 4. A 23 year old petite latina. Been on the site for about 2 weeks. I originally thought she was a UTR girl, but after a lot of txting I see she is just a hopeful but discouraged wannabe SB. Full time job and lives not too close by. Maybe a 7/8/8/?. Not sure of her dating status.

POT 2 seems closest to my ideal in looks and probably skills. So I am slowly getting something going. Still got my 2 regulars. They love me and are not going anywhere except to the FC whenever I want.

[Revvo]

So in the never ending quest to control the significant costs of this wonderful hobby. I noticed that the cost of a three pack of condoms at the local CVS / Walgreens is an exhorbitant $7. 80. Never really paid much attention to this because it was a small amount. But I started to do the math and it was costing me around $60. 00 per month just for these convenient 3 packs of rubbers! Too much I say. Hell I could get a vasectomy for the cost of 9 months of condoms. So I noticed that at Walmart they are less than half the cost for the same item. But even better I was the large forty pack. It was only an astounding $10. 00 at Walmart! Hell it would take me about two months to go through that many. This really adds up.

Anyway it got me thinking of how much money I am saving vs when I first started. It is significant. And I am getting at least three times as much pussy as before. Check out this comparison between my first SB and today. 10 months later.

First SB:

Sugar: 400.

Hotel: 95. 00 (she liked expensive restaurants and she drank a lot)

Meal / Drinks: 85.

Condoms: 7. 70.

Total: 587. 70.

Major hassle always something coming up or drama or hitting me up for more money which I never gave her. She was gorgeous but not ATF material.

Current SB's:

Sugar: 150.

Hotel: 0.

Meal / Drinks: Sometimes 25 (sometimes nothing)

Condoms: 1. 20.

Total: 176. 20.

Freedom from hassle: Priceless!

Damn that is a big difference. I would have never imagined this at the beginning. Pays to really understand what your expenses are.

Revvo

[Hornytoad1]

I had a score a few weeks ago. Do not know if you guys have Crime Times in your city but here is what I accomplished. I would pick up the mag on occasion. It's only $1. And look through. Would see folks at times that I have met or known on one manner or another. I noticed that there was usually some cutie on the DUI page. You know. Likely a party girl who got tagged driving late on a party night. So my natural predatory / hunting instincts kicked in. FYI. I do not care how good we are to our SB's. We are ALL predators. I have a fake FB profile so would search them on FB. As their real name is provided in the mag. Sent some friend requests out. Knowing they are young and lets face it. A DUI is not cheap. Message out that I am looking for a lady benefactor and if they would have an interest. Voilla. I hit one! Have met FC twice. She has a BF. Not sure how long it will last but it is fun for now. And this may be a fertile hunting ground. What do you guys think?

I love it, met a girl paying some fines at the police dept, I told her I could help her if she could help me, explained my wife was a little sick and wasn't up to some tasks at home and I didn't want to go looking on BP. I didn't even have to finish and she said thank you, you are so nice. Lasted 4 times her bill was paid after 2 times. She was 24 iwas 55.

[LikeMike1963]

I usually stay away from under 21. I also approach as a semi dating benefactor relationship. If they ask what that is then I will go into more detail. But emphasize it is a semi dating situation. I usually try to work with girls that may not of been an SB before. But do approach delicately.

Very clever idea Mike, but I do see one snag. Be careful propositioning random girls for money. What we do is a fine line anyway but if a DUI victim is not of the SB persuasion she might tell somebody like a parent. At least on the SB sites or CL girls are already in that mindset and willing to take the plunge to the dark side.

I was text-ing an 18 yr old from SA about a M&G and got a text back later from her mother telling me that she will call the cops if I ever contacted her again. The girl contacted me a month or two later asking for a M&G. I did not remember the number since I erased it but when she sent me a picture I said that I heard from her Mother. She said don't worry about it since she hides her phone. Yikes! I said thanks but no thanks. We don't think about 3rd parties who might get involved.

[WoodSlinger]

I had a score a few weeks ago. Do not know if you guys have Crime Times in your city but here is what I accomplished. I would pick up the mag on occasion. It's only $1. And look through. Would see folks at times that I have met or known on one manner or another. I noticed that there was usually some cutie on the DUI page. You know. Likely a party girl who got tagged driving late on a party night. So my natural predatory / hunting instincts kicked in. FYI. I do not care how good we are to our SB's. We are ALL predators. I have a fake FB profile so would search them on FB. As their real name is provided in the mag. Sent some friend requests out. Knowing they are young and lets face it. A DUI is not cheap. Message out that I am looking for a lady benefactor and if they would have an interest. Voilla. I hit one! Have met FC twice. She has a BF. Not sure how long it will last but it is fun for now. And this may be a fertile hunting ground. What do you guys think?

Not the traditional approach, but who cares. Keep your Modus Operandi as stealthy as possible (seems we all tend to lean that way anyway) and have some fun with it.

Kudos!

[FredMoore]

I had a score a few weeks ago. Do not know if you guys have Crime Times in your city but here is what I accomplished. I would pick up the mag on occasion. It's only $1. And look through. Would see folks at times that I have met or known on one manner or another. I noticed that there was usually some cutie on the DUI page. You know. Likely a party girl who got tagged driving late on a party night. So my natural predatory / hunting instincts kicked in. FYI. I do not care how good we are to our SB's. We are ALL predators. I have a fake FB profile so would search them on FB. As their real name is provided in the mag. Sent some friend requests out. Knowing they are young and lets face it. A DUI is not cheap. Message out that I am looking for a lady benefactor and if they would have an interest. Voilla. I hit one! Have met FC twice. She has a BF. Not sure how long it will last but it is fun for now. And this may be a fertile hunting ground. What do you guys think?

Very clever idea Mike, but I do see one snag. Be careful propositioning random girls for money. What we do is a fine line anyway but if a DUI victim is not of the SB persuasion she might tell somebody like a parent. At least on the SB sites or CL girls are already in that mindset and willing to take the plunge to the dark side.

I was text-ing an 18 yr old from SA about a M&G and got a text back later from her mother telling me that she will call the cops if I ever contacted her again. The girl contacted me a month or two later asking for a M&G. I did not remember the number since I erased it but when she sent me a picture I said that I heard from her Mother. She said don't worry about it since she hides her phone. Yikes! I said thanks but no thanks. We don't think about 3rd parties who might get involved.

[LikeMike1963]

I had a score a few weeks ago. Do not know if you guys have Crime Times in your city but here is what I accomplished. I would pick up the mag on occasion. It's only $1. And look through. Would see folks at times that I have met or known on one manner or another. I noticed that there was usually some cutie on the DUI page. You know. Likely a party girl who got tagged driving late on a party night. So my natural predatory / hunting instincts kicked in. FYI. I do not care how good we are to our SB's. We are ALL predators. I have a fake FB profile so would search them on FB. As their real name is provided in the mag. Sent some friend requests out. Knowing they are young and lets face it. A DUI is not cheap. Message out that I am looking for a lady benefactor and if they would have an interest. Voilla. I hit one! Have met FC twice. She has a BF. Not sure how long it will last but it is fun for now. And this may be a fertile hunting ground. What do you guys think?

[WoodSlinger]

I bought a money order today at post office and mailed it. No I'd, paid cash. Does take 2 days but totally anonymous. Their fee was $1. 20.

That is old school!

[HollywoodGuy]

Amazing enough brother Rat I just received a surprise text from my first SB who happened to be a stripper I met in a local / famous strip club a couple of years ago. Before I even knew about these sites. She was a the most beautiful one in the club 9/8/7/8 and she managed to get me in a dark corner of the club and proceeded to fuck me for two nuts / orgasms uncovered and she was not on birth control! This started a crazy tempestuous frustrating and expensive SD arrangement that ended when Magic Rat introduced me to this site.

So anyway she wants me to come visit. But I put her off. I am too damn busy with all the other babies to deal with her shit. I literally can fuck three of my current babies for what I paid for one visit with her. And no drama or craziness.

I have learned a lot from this site.

What a ride my brothers. Hold on tight and keep your eyes wide open you don't want to miss a second of it! This has truly been a unique experience.

Be careful out there.

Revvo

Tell her you can't wait to see her. Let her know you upped your game and now the going rate is (whatever you say). You got nothing to lose. If she was ever into you at all, now you"ll know for sure.

[Revvo]

Lastly, I have to give props to Revvo, who is an old online buddy from a stripper site. We both used to fancy the stripper world and the possibilities there. It appears Revvo has been converted to the Sugar world and seems to be doing quite well. Good for you my man! Obviously I haven't been able to wean myself from that dark place, but I keep trying! Could it have something to do with the local GPS Baby world?

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Amazing enough brother Rat I just received a surprise text from my first SB who happened to be a stripper I met in a local / famous strip club a couple of years ago. Before I even knew about these sites. She was a the most beautiful one in the club 9/8/7/8 and she managed to get me in a dark corner of the club and proceeded to fuck me for two nuts / orgasms uncovered and she was not on birth control! This started a crazy tempestuous frustrating and expensive SD arrangement that ended when Magic Rat introduced me to this site.

So anyway she wants me to come visit. But I put her off. I am too damn busy with all the other babies to deal with her shit. I literally can fuck three of my current babies for what I paid for one visit with her. And no drama or craziness.

I have learned a lot from this site.

What a ride my brothers. Hold on tight and keep your eyes wide open you don't want to miss a second of it! This has truly been a unique experience.

Be careful out there.

Revvo

[Graham1]

I couldn't function without my girls having a greendot card. For regulars only

I bought a money order today at post office and mailed it. No I'd, paid cash. Does take 2 days but totally anonymous. Their fee was $1. 20.

[Vasail]

So I did the loan / gift. And made sure she understood that she knew I wanted to help her and was happy to do so. That I never do this. But also that this would not be a common thing. She emphatically agreed. I Wanted to do it in person. But just could not get away. She lives about 45 minutes away.

She has continued to stay in touch with me and shows no indication of bolting. If anything she seems to be getting closer to me.

I used the Western Union through a local supermarket to send the money. And she was extremely grateful and appreciative and promised to show her appreciation on Wednesday when we get together.)

Here is the downside. The Western Union Folks wanted my full contact info, and real name. I never give my real name to my SB until very late in the game. I faked my address but my real name she needed to pick up the money.

Is there a way to send money anonymously? I know about Green Dot but they already have to have a card for that. She did not.

Oh the risks we take.

Revvo

Last time I went to MB I texted my pro and she was in RIC, of all places. Once I got back home she wanted to meet but my schedule didn't allow. A few days later she texted me asking for .25. Just that, no more. She said she got busted in RIC and didn't have enough to go home. I looked up he mugshot and sure enough, there she was. I went ahead and sent her the money from Walmart with a fake name. I gave her the fake name and security question. Since she didn't have an I'd. She got the money and texted me that she is again home and safe in MB and when can I visit. Well brothers, this weekend sail is heading to MB. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.

[HollywoodGuy]

Just did both

1) the thief I sent $200 to via Western Union. It cost $12 and I made up the name. You can provide whatever info you want, just give her the name you used. Mickey Mouse worked fine.

2) Green dot cost me $2. 95 plus the money sent. On her end she had to buy a card for $4. 95 and put $10 on the card. When you want to send money and she already has a card it's just $2. 95 for you.

I couldn't function without my girls having a greendot card. For regulars only

[FredMoore]

Just did both

1) the thief I sent $200 to via Western Union. It cost $12 and I made up the name. You can provide whatever info you want, just give her the name you used. Mickey Mouse worked fine.

2) Green dot cost me $2.95 plus the money sent. On her end she had to buy a card for $4.95 and put $10 on the card. When you want to send money and she already has a card it's just $2. 95 for you.