"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**BigTime2** · 06-20-13 14:40

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

8. Now transfer them to a backup hard drive which you could hide anywhere or an online backup service which is password protected. Then delete the pics from your computer.

Flash Drive and I'd leave the ONLINE backup service alone, just saying.

**Dsprdo** · 06-20-13 14:29

Quick update:

Tattoo SB-I was worried about her when I started as she seemed to always have a new money problem and I thought she wasn't going to last. I gently coached her on that and the issue has all but disappeared. We are settled now on $.5 a visit, and she would usually rather come to my house and hit the pool or cuddle on the couch prior to FC duty than go out for drinks or dinner, so she isn't costing me much as far as expenses go. The sex has gotten better and better. The last time she was here when she got out of bed her legs were shaking so badly she had trouble getting her balance for a minute. She is now my primary SB, only problem is now she wants to come over all the time, restricting time and funding for other operations. Oh, well, there are worse problems to have.

Needy MILF Pot- This is a sweet white girl. 31, 7/6/9 (six on body because of baby pooch, otherwise a spinner with nice legs and booty). She has had some hard luck in her life and is needy both emotionally and financially. After an initial M&G over dinner, we had progressed to the point where the sugar discussion came up. She said that she wasn't even going to bring it up, but she did need some financial help. She said that she liked me so much that she'd be happy just to go out if I was uncomfortable with it. When I broached the subject of a physical relationship she said that a friend told her that there were guys on SA who were willing to help out just for company. She stressed that she was hoping our relationship would go there, but didn't want to feel like she was just doing it for money. I didn't commit to anything and we decided to have lunch the next day. At the last minute, she texted me that her sitter had fallen through, and could her son come along? I was already on the way, and didn't want to be a jerk about it, so I said okay, intending to bail early. We actually had a nice lunch, and then she talked me into going to the pool; At the end of the day, when I dropped them off, she pretty much begged me to come over after the kids were asleep. To which I had to say no. I know she's sizing me up to be replacement daddy and solve all her problems. That is not for me and I had to tell her so. She took it well, and asked if we could get together next week. I left that one open as at the time I could hardly hear myself think over the internal earful I was getting from little me, who had been discreetly petted a couple of times over the afternoon when we had a moment to ourselves. In the long run I could string her along for low sugar, but I think she has had enough bad luck in her life and I don't want a karma debt for making it worse for her.

Things have slowed down a little as far as new Pots. A week or two ago I had several nibbles from SA, but only one has moved along to a meet and greet. For the last week or so I've not had many responses and some of the girls that I was communicating with have gone silent. My subscription is up at the end of the month and I think I'm going to see what SD4M has to offer.

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-20-13 11:17

Originally Posted by John G Smith [View Original Post]

So the chain of custody of my Sugar Pics would go like this:

1). Naked SB 2). Pull out Sugar Cam 3). *Click* 4). Sugar Pics on Sugar Cam 5). After quick review, Sugar Cam Phone stays locked indefinitely 6). Transfer Sugar Pics to secure device / computer to password protected folders 7). Wipe Sugar Cam of Sugar Pics.

What do you guys think of that? Those of you who take pictures how do you transfer and store them securely?

8. Now transfer them to a backup hard drive which you could hide anywhere or an online backup service which is password protected. Then delete the pics from your computer.

**F Scott** · 06-20-13 11:08

My brothers,

I was communicating on SA this morning with a hot-looking baby, a little older than I like them, but still do-able, at least from her photos. I coaxed her over to my Sugar email account, where her message to me contained her real name in her email address. Things were going along nicely, and we were setting up an m&g for later today when I idly put her name into pipl. Not only did more recent, and skanky, pics come up, but an article about her boyfriend and father of her SIX children, who was sent to prison for burning her clothes and setting the house on fire in a drunken jealous rage over her cheating on him. Oh, and he also set her parents' house on fire, and attacked a police officer with a butcher knife. This was back in 2011, and he was sentenced to 2 1/2 years, meaning he is probably just getting out, if not free already! I can just see it now: "Hi honey, I'm home from prison! Who the FUCK is this?"

Needless to say, I am going to vanish on this one. Any bro in the Chicago area on SA, pm me and I'll give you her profile. Unless you live for danger, in which case, tall ho!

You can never be too careful in your initial screening process, I say, and any little bit of intel is helpful.

Peace,

Scott

**Hernando** · 06-20-13 10:24

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Anyone tried this Fling. Com that is being advertised on here?

I tried signing up for the free trial membership. But it does not let you do hardly anything.

Just curious if anyone has had any luck. You know the internet is always evolving.

Revvo

Fling is full of young girls looking for fun. I found a 40ish MILF who was a beautiful sex freak, a little chubby but could take incredible nipple biting and beg for more. But besides her I am too old to play in that pool. Most of the girls are 18-20's and they don't want an old man. If the girls are on a sugar site then they will do old men, but not here.

Also I think a lot of the amazingly hot girls there are shills. See the strip of hotties above . I bet they are all fake .

Having said that give it a try and see for yourself. Let us know.

**Member #5570** · 06-20-13 10:05

I been taking pics and vids. I made sure my face or other identifiable body parts, besides my cock is in the pics.

I transfer them immediately over to the laptop and password protected the folder.

There are apps that secured the pics on your phone, but it's a pain to retrieve and transfer.

**John G Smith** · 06-20-13 07:10

We've talked about this topic a little bit in the past but I wanted to revisit it.

So far in my Sugar Bowl career I've never taken a single picture of one of my babies in the bedroom or otherwise. I've been tempted but I always felt it was just too big of a risk of exposure having hard evidence of my activities in my possession. With just about every action I do in the Sugar Bowl, I try to make sure it's always backed up by "Reasonable Doubt". Meaning if I'm careless and a piece of evidence of my activities finds its way into the Warden's hands, I can explain it and cloud it with enough reasonable doubt so a state of blissful ignorance can be maintained. I try to avoid creating "Smoking Guns" at all costs. I can explain an errant hotel charge on a credit card (ie. My buddy got in a huge fight with his girlfriend and needed a place to crash or the card number must have been stolen and I'll report it immediately, and etc). But if there is a pic found in my possession of a young 20 year-old deep-throating my cock in POV style then there's no explaining that away. That's a career-ending torn ACL injury, you're out of the Bowl immediately and if you somehow manage to return, you'll never be the same.

That said.

I've some really good bedroom experiences lately and man oh man, I'd like to have a few photos / vids to re-live those moments since in some cases they might be just once in-lifetime type experiences. So I'm really tempted to break my own rule. I also recently got a new phone, so I'm thinking of using my old phone, which has no service at all, as my Sugar Cam. Since it's a known device, I wouldn't have to hide it discretely and I can pretty much leave it lying around in the periphery in the house. And since it's a dead phone, it's highly unlikely the Warden will go thumbing through it (It has a screen lock anyway). And with the phone being off the grid from a wireless provider, the only way pics are getting downloaded / sent is through a manual USB transfer.

So the chain of custody of my Sugar Pics would go like this:

1). Naked SB 2). Pull out Sugar Cam 3). *Click* 4). Sugar Pics on Sugar Cam 5). After quick review, Sugar Cam Phone stays locked indefinitely 6). Transfer Sugar Pics to secure device / computer to password protected folders 7). Wipe Sugar Cam of Sugar Pics.

What do you guys think of that? Those of you who take pictures how do you transfer and store them securely?

**Revvo** · 06-19-13 23:12

Anyone tried this Fling. Com that is being advertised on here?

I tried signing up for the free trial membership. But it does not let you do hardly anything.

Just curious if anyone has had any luck. You know the internet is always evolving.

Revvo

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-19-13 16:39

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Hollywood,

Great list. Many thanks! I'm 8 out of 10, so I feel good. I might add:

1. Knowing their food preferences, ie, vegan, vegetarian or omnivore. I find many of my younger babies are at least non meat-eaters, and they notice favorably if I take them to a place that has a nice seafood selection.

Scott

Favorite baby foods.

1. Sushi (yuck)

2. Italian (I can work with that)

3. Chicken Wings

4. Asian (most are on a diet or don't eat much, especially spinners)

5. Tell them they can go to their favorite restaurant (it's probably half the price or less than your favorite)

**F Scott** · 06-19-13 14:48

Hollywood,

Great list. Many thanks! I'm 8 out of 10, so I feel good. I might add:

1. Knowing their food preferences, ie, vegan, vegetarian or omnivore. I find many of my younger babies are at least non meat-eaters, and they notice favorably if I take them to a place that has a nice seafood selection.

Scott

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-19-13 14:31

1. Knowing what day their time of the month is. (so they don't have to feel pressured for sex)

2. Knowing that you take care of your kids. (shows you really are a daddy)

3. Knowing you don"t hate your X. (shows compassion, something ALL SB's crave more than anything)

4. Always arriving freshly showered. (just sexy all around)

5. Knowing the name of the perfume they wear. (most guys don't)

6. Knowing their Bday. (I still can't remember my x wifes)

7. Getting them off first. (a no brainer)

8. Getting them a greendot even if they already have a CC or debit card. (good boyscout mentality)

9. Making sure they have enough makeup. (CVS, Riteaid or Walgreens is fine. Most young girls can stock up big-time for $50 to $100)

10. Txt them as soon as you wake up and before you go to sleep. (Don't worry about the daytime. You are a busy guy.)

Maybe you do all of these things already. If you do all of them you can't help but go to the top of their list.

**Hernando** · 06-19-13 11:03

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

There is so much going on that I need to report on a more frequent basis at least for the time being. Or until I carry this too far. I guess when you have lived your life as a normal person with average access to pussy and then one day a door opens up to a candy shop of what seems like limitless quality pussy. There may be a slight tendency to overdo it. Either that or I am just out of control.

Lets be careful out there.

REVVO

You are out of control brother Revvo, but it hurts so good. Your experience is reminiscent of mine with my ATF HCB. I was seriously E Involved and still 1 year later am mourning her loss. Like Scotty and his ATF we must soldier on and get back on that horse when tossed off.

You should have THE discussion with Old_ATF about her intentions, because if you continue on as things are at the moment you will just torment yourself. If she doesn't come around be strong and say goodbye. She will keep coming and going and tear you up.

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-19-13 01:34

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

REVVO_SB5: So this young MILF is from eastern Europe and is sweet as can be. And she is truly as armature as can be. If you are in this game to fuck armatures this one really qualifies. Met today and had lunch and then to the fuck chamber. Sweet as candy. Huge blue eyes, slender size 0/2 body with small cute breasts. Had to really take it slow but I was able to calm her nerves and get her to get into it. Got a good orgasm out of the way and from then on she was much more responsive and affectionate. Very flexible. Twisted her up like a pretzel. I am holding my rating of her at 8/8/9. Great girl. Another one that it would be hard to see her go. It was a really great fuck. I must say I came harder and better with her than most. She was up there with my ATF in getting better and more nuts out of me. I think it has a lot to do with them being into me also. You just feel it. Their bodies literally communicate it to you.

REVVO_SB6: This is probably the most beautiful one on the list other than REVVO_OLD_ATF. She is also from eastern Europe and was a lot easier to get her to the FC than I thought. She is very young. My youngest baby ever. 21 YO White single, sexy little body with small breasts and an awesome face. She looks right through you with these incredible green eyes. Not a lot of friendliness and fun at first but I got her talking and laughing. And she loosened up. She had not problem going to the FC. Drinks and then on to get some real fucking done. Did her last night. And she wanted it quickly. Not nearly as nervous as SB5 above. But much more distant. She is in my other report about not wanting to kiss. I fully believe she will come around and warm up and get into the kissing. Either that or she will be gone. Too much quality pussy to keep her around and not have her completely. She has to have the prettiest pussy I have ever seen. It was like a work of art. And smelled great. And she was so juicy and wet, before I even did anything. The fuck was very good and she liked the sugar 200. I must say I don't know how you can beat that for a woman that can pass for a model like looks, and she is just fucking only you. She is easily a 10/9/7. And I expect to get her to raise that 7 up a bit. She dresses great very feminine and sexy, and she is very adventurous. We are scheduled to revisit the FC this Saturday.

Got any PIC's?

**BigTigger** · 06-18-13 22:38

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Math,

Let me join my brothers in welcoming you to the most sublime, frustrating, rewarding and irritating pursuits that exists. Whatever the path that brought you here, you will find a wealth of helpful information and approaches. Read and study the entire thread, as there is a treasure trove of knowledge, all gained through personal experiences, and hard won. You will find the brethren more than willing to share, either publicly or via PM, but there is nothing that can replace real world experience. You will make mistakes, you will be scammed, you will fuck up, but I predict that once you have landed your first little fish, you will never go back to whatever you were doing before. It is an addiction not without its downsides, as you will discover, but when it is good, it is beyond compare.

Tally ho,

Scott

Hi Give brother, well said.

**Revvo** · 06-18-13 22:35

There is so much going on that I need to report on a more frequent basis at least for the time being. Or until I carry this too far. I guess when you have lived your life as a normal person with average access to pussy and then one day a door opens up to a candy shop of what seems like limitless quality pussy. There may be a slight tendency to overdo it. Either that or I am just out of control. Anyway the week is young and I have much to report.

REVVO_ATF: Almost no movement here. She is still traveling and will not be back until next week. And then she will most likely be on her period according to pmsbuddy. Com. So It may be another week until I see her. I do have a little concern since she is very hard to get a response from on text or phone. But you never know with any of these. On the other hand she has always expressed great fondness for me and desire for me. But this break has given me good opportunity to explore quite a few other POTs and find what could be some real gems.

REVVO_OLD_ATF: This one appears to be a problem. Again. This baby probably should have never been on the site. She is extremely independent and hard to pin down. She was my favorite and left me and then came back. Since then there has only been a few visits. Both of us traveling a lot. But the problem is deeper. I think she has a real problem with what she is doing and with her own future. In addition she is a person that is never still. She is always socializing, visiting, going on adventures. Problem is we had a great time when we are together but she does not make time for me. This tells me two things. She is either going to leave again or she found another man. I know she is not on the site and I am pretty sure she is not having sex with anyone else. But she may be dating someone else. Either way I am having problems with this. It may be that I just like her too much. There is quite a bit of talk on this site lately about E. Involvment, and I have to plead guilty to this one. I have met a lot of women and had a lot of first class pussy but this one is different. And this troubles me. It troubles me when I have her. And it troubles me when I don't. Someone asked me if I am having fun. And I have to say. Not so much with this one. I have bright shining moments of incredible fun and then long periods of discontent. I am probably going to have to cut her loose. She cancelled on me this week and the excuse was not acceptable. And I am concerned about further issues. May be better to just start moving away now. Not what I wanted and certainly does not make me happy. Now what I do about this? I am proud to say that within 1 hour of making my decision. I had two FC sessions set up with two eastern European babies for that night and the next afternoon. Their reports are below. It is good to have options. But I must say this helps but does not erase my feelings for this really awesome woman.

REVVO_POT1: Nothing happening here. I just don't have the time. I would love to fuck her but I am concerned she is too mercenary and that she may be a UTR, or a semi pro. I have her on the back burner. But she will probably be in the wind if I don't do anything within another week.

REVVO_POT2: She is now REVVO_SB5.

REVVO_POT5: She is now REVVO_SB6.

REVVO_SB1: So finally going to see my little cute blond on Friday. I was worried it had been too long since she got some dick from me. But she was ready to go. I Like this one. She is a sweetie and very orgasmic. These MILFS in the upper 20s and into their 30's are the sweet spot for me. They know how to fuck and know how to please. Much easier to play with than the really young babies. But I do have a report on one of those also below.

REVVO_SB2: Well I fear that this one is gone. I gave her too little sugar 150 and it appears she has gotten insulted. She is cute and nice thick body. In the good way. First class pussy all the way around. But she is not returning my calls or texts. And she really liked the FC session we had she told me several times. And she came several times. But someone is going to have to go. I did learn something from this. Don't give a high quality woman 150 for a fuck.

REVVO_SB3: Moved away, off the list.

REVVO_SB4: Not going to do her any more. It was an experience.

REVVO_SB5: So this young MILF is from eastern Europe and is sweet as can be. And she is truly as armature as can be. If you are in this game to fuck armatures this one really qualifies. Met today and had lunch and then to the fuck chamber. Sweet as candy. Huge blue eyes, slender size 0/2 body with small cute breasts. Had to really take it slow but I was able to calm her nerves and get her to get into it. Got a good orgasm out of the way and from then on she was much more responsive and affectionate. Very flexible. Twisted her up like a pretzel. I am holding my rating of her at 8/8/9. Great girl. Another one that it would be hard to see her go. It was a really great fuck. I must say I came harder and better with her than most. She was up there with my ATF in getting better and more nuts out of me. I think it has a lot to do with them being into me also. You just feel it. Their bodies literally communicate it to you.

REVVO_SB6: This is probably the most beautiful one on the list other than REVVO_OLD_ATF. She is also from eastern Europe and was a lot easier to get her to the FC than I thought. She is very young. My youngest baby ever. 21 YO White single, sexy little body with small breasts and an awesome face. She looks right through you with these incredible green eyes. Not a lot of friendliness and fun at first but I got her talking and laughing. And she loosened up. She had not problem going to the FC. Drinks and then on to get some real fucking done. Did her last night. And she wanted it quickly. Not nearly as nervous as SB5 above. But much more distant. She is in my other report about not wanting to kiss. I fully believe she will come around and warm up and get into the kissing. Either that or she will be gone. Too much quality pussy to keep her around and not have her completely. She has to have the prettiest pussy I have ever seen. It was like a work of art. And smelled great. And she was so juicy and wet, before I even did anything. The fuck was very good and she liked the sugar 200. I must say I don't know how you can beat that for a woman that can pass for a model like looks, and she is just fucking only you. She is easily a 10/9/7. And I expect to get her to raise that 7 up a bit. She dresses great very feminine and sexy, and she is very adventurous. We are scheduled to revisit the FC this Saturday.

So that is my supplemental report. Much going on. Once again a little too much. But I am getting as much sex as I can handle and spending way too much money. Someone will be going next week. And it is getting harder and harder to reduce the staff. But it will have to be done. I don't even go on the SDFORME site anymore, just too busy. Just while I have been writing this report. I have been contacted by a new POT, from a previous email I sent out, and if she looks anything like her pics. She is absolutely gorgeous. We are scheduled for a M&G Thursday afternoon. She looks very promising. And she may be adding to my dilemma. There may be even a genuine ATF replacement in this lineup. We shall see. Keep on writing boys. This is the real thing going on. I have to pinch myself sometimes.

Lets be careful out there.

REVVO