"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FredMoore** · 06-18-13 11:41

This sport is up or down. Just about the time I get discouraged about finding someone I get over subscribed.

ATF #3 dumped me then agreed to rethink and let me know soon. Well that was 2 days ago and not a word and she is nonstop on the SA website. I don't even know when she works, so I don't really get that one. So I'm letting her go emotionally

SB 1 is my only actively functioning SB is scheduled for the FC tonight. She is inexperienced and tubby but has a nice juicy pussy so I'm going to hit it.

Pot #1 18 yr old hottie white size 0 is corresponding regularly and on the schedule for a M&G tomorrow night. She has already agreed to spend the night in the FC if things go well. Prelim rating is 9/9?

Pot #2 M&G last PM is a 22 yr old size 4 8/8/8 and seems ready for the FC but wants one more M&G. I don't know why another meet but she probably doesn't want to give it up too easily.

Pot # 3 is an AM hit I have been chatting with this morning. She seems open to a M&G next week. I'm skeptical because of my dismal history there. She is 41, caucasian, size6 athletic looking "older " woman. But free is free.

**WoodSlinger** · 06-18-13 11:39

It seems that a lot of the guys in this thread are kissing afficionados. I try to avoid this with anyone but my SO. It is just too personal for me to be passionately kissing someone I am just casually fucking. Don't get me wrong I like the act, but only with someone I have an emotional connection with. With the SB and UTR girls, I avoid the emotional attachment like the plague.

Am I alone in this? Doubt that, but would love to hear some more opinions.

**Magic Rat** · 06-18-13 09:40

After a bit of a sabbatical, I have put on the full court press trying to find some new local Babies out there. It seems the Babies I am least interested in have the most interest in me and, of course, vice versa. The HYB's in the Bowl are sporadic at best with communications, and seemingly hesitant to meet while the high mileage MILF's want to meet ASAP and get the sugar rolling.

I had a request from one said MILF to set something up soon because she had a bill coming due in a couple of days. Just what I like. Someone I don't really want to pursue attempting to pressure me into an "arrangement", even before a M&G! Also a MILF I have met once whereby there was a POTF evening asked me if I could advance her funds for our next time. This Baby was in the "just ok" category and certainly not one on whom I'm anxious to waste some sugar.

I'm beginning to think I've lost my touch but as my friend Scott says maybe I need to stretch my Baby muscles to get back in the saddle.

Good for you guys who are successful with the young babies, especially the older guys like me. I've enjoyed reading your stories. The pool for the young minnows in my area seems to be small and somewhat barren, but the 'Rat keeps casting.

**BigTigger** · 06-18-13 08:57

Flyin hit me up at 5am and then again at 8am. As we were lounging around, I realized that though I have known her for a number of years, she does not fit my new profile for what I like. We are great friends, but as we walk through malks, etc, I find that if we did not already have the relationship, I would not be with her. I gave her 1day too many. She leaves tomorrow morning.

Last night I stepped out and met up with MsBackup. As I have Wed to Sat booked, she is technically the backup. But since I was already disenchanted with the flyin, I scheduled a late dinner with her. Since flyin was at the room, I was not planning on the Tiggabounce. She was nice and sweet, but she was significantly heavier than her pics. Come to find out, the pics were 3years old and she seemed to be oblivious to the fact that she gained weight and it was a little false advertising. The date went well, we sat and talked for iver 3hours. Since I did not press her to come back to my room, I got credit for being a gentleman, when in actuality I had flyin there anyway. So I am not super attractive to her, but she does have a few nice qualities (big boobs, nice smile, big butt. 21years old) to add her to my stl adventure. So we have a movie date tonight were I will get much more friendlier. After this, she will be ready for the Tiggabounce on date #3 after the flyin leaves. She will probably be my Sat night date or early Thursday date before MsBigBoobs and I meet.

Since I think MsBigBoobs will be holding out at least one date, I may hit MsBackup early, around 3pm, then have my other date start around 8pm. I could be wrong as she sent me 3 photos two in bras and one showing partial frontal nudity from a distance. If I am wrong, that will be two in the same day, so we shall see.

Had 3 sbs email or text me for money I said no to all of them. None had any emergencies. One asked $$$, we have only been together once. The second asked for $1. I have already invested too much into her with very little return. I even told her that. The third, asked for $, but I think she is a semi pro and she only texts when she wants money. I tried that once and she disappeared for a week.

Talked with my #1prospect last night MsCoolnFine, she is really cool and I am looking forward to meeting her. I am going to try and see her when I get iff the plane.

Talked with MsBored out of the blue. Conversation was good and shevis almost ready to start back up. She was very inexpensive, great body and adventurous, see previous post on car date :-)

Today is day three. 1 date and got to hook flyin up this morning.

BigTigg

**Walruscl** · 06-18-13 06:51

Originally Posted by Just757 [View Original Post]

How do you feel about the emotional attachment?

It was a requirement for me that there be a strong connection, and I passed on a number of situations because of a lack of it. I was getting to the point where I was getting close to just throwing in the towel and calling it a failed experiment when my current SB came out of nowhere. Well, she came out of SA, but she didn't rank highly at the time and I had what appeared to be more promising POTs.

But once we started texting, we hit it off instantly. Totally different dynamic than anyone else. The M&G went as well as could be expected since this was a first time for both of us, and I still had my share of reservations. But a few days later I was in her area and caught her on a work break just for a 2nd look, and to make sure the arrangement wasn't going to be a barrier.

Well, that, as they say, was that.

While I'm not kidding myself that she'd still see me without sugar involved, she genuinely seems to treat it as more of a perk than the main attraction. I'm "her crush", and she's a sweetheart with whom I can share multiple interests effortlessly.

So yeah, when it inevitably ends, it's going to be a major bummer. But for now I found exactly what I was looking for-her words as well.

**Walruscl** · 06-17-13 21:20

My hotel karma is off to a pretty bad start. The first one didn't even as for a license, so just a name with no address recorded, that was good. The 2nd one ended up requiring my license twice (since they screwed up and rented my room out to someone else shortly after I left). Then there was the attempted pilfering of my baby's gift card. Oy.

So this time I tried a Holiday Inn, which had lots of rooms according to hotels. Com, and did a walk-in. I had unexpected evening shore leave, and planned to take full advantage. Should be easy, right?

Well, they were cool with just a name, no license, no address. I handed my Visa gift card over, which had plenty of funds. Which kept getting denied. The front desk lady called the 800 number, and the short story is that Visa (not the hotel, not the gift card issuer) was putting a $500 hold in addition to the room charge. Which of course the card couldn't handle. Now, I had just used this same card at another chain, and the credit card authorization was one of the few things that went smoothly. So, WTF?

The credit card issuer's response was that "due to the type of establishment" where I was booking a room, Visa insists on the $500 hold. This was just a middle-of-the-road Holiday Inn! Again, WTF?

Fortunately I had the cash to cover it, with the only restriction that I wouldn't be able to charge things against the room (no biggie!). Still never asked for official I'd, even when I switched to cash.

Anyone else run into this? Snafus like this are bad for my nerves. Fortunately my SB made me forget all about it in record time.

**Just757** · 06-17-13 20:40

Hi guys, I first started as a hobbyist back when CL allowed erotic services. It was real easy back then, but when it got shut down and things moved to BP it was never the same, especially with the constant stings that go down.

One day when I was browsing CL, there was a young woman who was asking to be spoiled. Unbeknownst to me were females who were needing "assistance" who weren't actually pros. Ah yes, what a magnificent concept, and now the market seems to be booming for SD / SB relationships. She was my first sugarbaby, and I really skimped her. She was really hot. 18 and had a great body. After seeing her on and off for about a year, she went cold turkey on me. Let me tell you, getting cold turkey like that, I had bad withdrawals. She was my ATF and holds sentimental value to me when I look back. Sometimes I feel like I shouldn't have skimped her in the $ department. I was able to find another SB within a short amount of time, but there's nothing like your first. It's a learning experience I tell you.

I much prefer having a steady SB than picking up a random pro.

How do you feel about the emotional attachment?

**F Scott** · 06-17-13 16:44

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

MsFreakyLawStudent did not return my calls.

Had a quick lunch with MsParalegal, she is kinda distant, snobbish and stays on her phone when we are together. Texting, not talking.

My flyin hooked me up right before the game started.

TallnDeprived sent text and is ready to get it on when we meet.

The stl backup is primed and down for anything.

MsBigboobs has not contacted me, interesting.

MsCoolnFine the 9. 5 I mentioned is great. We tested and talked today. Very good chemistry, we will meet when I get back and will Skype this week.

I am thinking of sneaking out on my flyin to meet the backup. She sent a nice pic and it may be worth a lunch investment.

Tigg,

Any way we could do a little blood doping? I want to have what you're having!

Good luck, and don't forget to write,

Scott

**FotoGuy1970** · 06-17-13 16:04

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Don't buy the virgin line just yet. A lot of young girls say that just to keep you backed off till they make a decision about you one way or the other. But good luck.

Oh, I am well aware that she's possibly just yanking my chain and her claim of virginity is just a ploy to keep things at a pace that she's comfortable with. Either way she's a nice girl and one of the very few whom it would be worth it to throw a small amount of sugar her way just to have a small amount of physical affection, even if there was no fucking.

**F Scott** · 06-17-13 11:26

Gentlemen,

Well, it was a year ago today, the day after Father's Day, that my ATF and I split up. I am over it, mostly, but there are moments when I remember some little thing about her as if she were right in front of me.

There have been many babies since then, and some really outstanding times, but no one yet has truly taken her place. Yet.

Be careful about emotional involvement. It makes the experience so much more intense, but the heartache is real too.

In other news, I'm actively casting to several little fish from SA at the moment, too many actually, but when they are rising all around you, it's hard not to toss a fly their way.

Lunch today with a serious front-runner. This will be our third meeting, and I'm guessing we will be discussing the "arrangement", which will hopefully lead to POTF in the near future.

Wish me luck,

Scott

**HollywoodGuy** · 06-17-13 03:07

Originally Posted by FotoGuy1970 [View Original Post]

Just came back from a M&G with a POT who answered a CL ad. Recently turned 18 (verified) , into older men, comes from a family of money who've decided to cut her off. She wants money, wants the arrangement. Here comes the catch: She is a virgin and so far we have not decided how intimate we'll be. She is stunningly attractive! Beautiful thick dark hair and Italian face, fantastic body, great breasts. I've told her that I will not give her sugar until I get sugar, and she is cool with that.

My brothers, even if I don't actually get to fuck her, it was fun just hanging out with her (beauty, brains AND a personality!) and it would be worth at least *some* sugar just to have any degree of physical affection / intimacy with her. I have no illusion that it is highly improbable that we'll actually get to fuck, but I'm hoping that most anything else will be on the table! It may not be a full sugar arrangement, but it sure would be a fun one!

Don't buy the virgin line just yet. A lot of young girls say that just to keep you backed off till they make a decision about you one way or the other. But good luck.

**BigTigger** · 06-17-13 00:42

MsFreakyLawStudent did not return my calls.

Had a quick lunch with MsParalegal, she is kinda distant, snobbish and stays on her phone when we are together. Texting, not talking.

My flyin hooked me up right before the game started.

TallnDeprived sent text and is ready to get it on when we meet.

The stl backup is primed and down for anything.

MsBigboobs has not contacted me, interesting.

MsCoolnFine the 9. 5 I mentioned is great. We tested and talked today. Very good chemistry, we will meet when I get back and will Skype this week.

I am thinking of sneaking out on my flyin to meet the backup. She sent a nice pic and it may be worth a lunch investment.

**FotoGuy1970** · 06-16-13 12:19

Just came back from a M&G with a POT who answered a CL ad. Recently turned 18 (verified) , into older men, comes from a family of money who've decided to cut her off. She wants money, wants the arrangement. Here comes the catch: She is a virgin and so far we have not decided how intimate we'll be. She is stunningly attractive! Beautiful thick dark hair and Italian face, fantastic body, great breasts. I've told her that I will not give her sugar until I get sugar, and she is cool with that.

My brothers, even if I don't actually get to fuck her, it was fun just hanging out with her (beauty, brains AND a personality!) and it would be worth at least *some* sugar just to have any degree of physical affection / intimacy with her. I have no illusion that it is highly improbable that we'll actually get to fuck, but I'm hoping that most anything else will be on the table! It may not be a full sugar arrangement, but it sure would be a fun one!

**BigTigger** · 06-15-13 16:23

Any fellow SDs in that area want to get a drink, swap some stories, brag a little, let me know. PM me actually. I'm meeting most of my dates around 7pm or later. I do have someone scheduled every night that I'm there, so it would definitely be a quick SD bonding moment before 7pm, LOL.

BT

**BigTigger** · 06-15-13 16:04

Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO [View Original Post]

In my experience, AA girls just don't seem to enjoy having cocks in their mouths. My best BJs came from white girls. T

This has not been my experience, but I do have an interesting trend. Most of my first date dick in mouth women were white. They were not necessarily better, but they were much more willing to give me a extended sample on the first date. Most CIM and swallow. Pretty amazing trend, LOL.