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  1. #11925

    Who Cares?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyGaGa1  [View Original Post]
    It's really hard to lump everyone in the same bucket. You do have the ones that Nite explains 40 yr divorced mom but also have the young single college aged girls like Cindy at T. To understand either one must understand their culture and thier language. As I stated before I speak fluent Chinese so I have had occasison to date several thearpists over the years and get to know many details the average monger might not. One thing I will say is that something like 80% of these ladies are from Shenyang pronounced (shenyoung) Its in Northern China (extremely cold). If you ever want to go to monger heaven this is where it is. LOL. On another note, I dated at gal who had her own (mostly) legit shop in Miami. She had about 3 gals working for her and did approx $10k a week in business, not bad with overhead only $50k. Its always a 50/50 split with the house and the girls keep 100% of the tips. Whats more, lets just say the phrase "reporting tips" to the govt doesn't translate well " LOL. Anyway, my main point is that while many of the girls can earn a good living $40. $50k a year on average (many are much less) , most are not getting rich but can do ok. Look, they live together, don't eat out much and only spend their money on luxury goods that can be seen. The expensive car, burberry purse, etc. They come here just like any other immigrant for a better life. No different than the Mexican, the African born Black or the korean. They all want people to see that they have made it and are different from the crowd. Somehting we all strive for I suppose.
    Don't take it personal, but is this a blog about the plight of the Asian Massage Therapist or the USA Sexguide? I am sure that you know more about the Chinese culture, however I know for a fact that your information about the split always being 50/50 is inaccurate. I draw the line at visiting any place where the girls may be abused or being held against their will, other than that who's business is it what they do with their money?

  2. #11924
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyGaGa1  [View Original Post]
    So I ventured to H and drew Vicky. Young maybe 28. A 6 in looks. No tease no he. Also was here the other day and drew Ala. With a long A sound. Maybe 25. Nice body. I give a 7. No tease no nothing. I have not been impressed with this place in awhile. I like younger girls and they don't seem very good here. If people know otherwise please let me know. I also went to a Foot place up the road same side. If anyone has intel can you please pm me. Thanks
    My experience with Ella at H was the same as you had. I doubt she'd loosen up on future visits.

  3. #11923
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyGaGa1  [View Original Post]
    So I ventured to H and drew Vicky. Young maybe 28. A 6 in looks. No tease no he.
    Sounds like the Vicky I saw at T maybe 5 months ago. I got the same thing, no tease or HE, even DIY. When she was done with the massage she just turned and walked out.

  4. #11922

    Some new stuff

    So I ventured to H and drew Vicky. Young maybe 28. A 6 in looks. No tease no he. Also was here the other day and drew Ala. With a long A sound. Maybe 25. Nice body. I give a 7. No tease no nothing. I have not been impressed with this place in awhile. I like younger girls and they don't seem very good here. If people know otherwise please let me know. I also went to a Foot place up the road same side. If anyone has intel can you please pm me. Thanks

  5. #11921
    Quote Originally Posted by Marco19  [View Original Post]
    Cindy is definitely a big tease. She's young, cute, and has a great body, and uses light touch around your upper legs to make you think something can happen. But in my experience it won't. She refuses to let me touch her at all and will only allow DIY while she continues the light touch on your legs. Then will say "it's only for you, no one else". If jerking off in front of a cute young thing does it for you, then she's good. Of course, YMMV.

    Marco
    I Agree but I have however gotten her to allow some very good roaming. You just need to keep trying and tip well. I throw at least a Jackson. Since she wears shorts I have even gotten utc a couple of times but no fiv, and still no HE, only an assisit (which was nice). She got pissed at me the other day so I am not sure I will go back. I told her she should try smiling with her mouth closed and that guys would like her more. I will say this, she is motivated by money.

  6. #11920
    Quote Originally Posted by Benargen  [View Original Post]
    Got Cindy again. She seems more familiar with me now but at this point I think she is a big tease. If anyone knows differently please let me know. There is another girl there who she said is her roommate. Name is Alice, might give that a go.
    Those college girls at T Massage are a tease and a joke. They are friendly but not professionall. They hang out with their guy friends outside if no one is there and flirt around. Watching their behavior is disheartening. Some of the guys sneak in there with them like its a game. They are all asian. Vietnamese I think. DIY is all you will get there.

    Even if you persist, it still gets knocked down to DIY. But, I tell you. There us better to be had. Don't just fall for the experience because they are young.

    However I would like to know of a massage place with better looking women. Getting tired of the same ol run around.

    You were right to say they wouldn't be anything special in their country.

    BigK

  7. #11919

    T Massage

    Quote Originally Posted by Benargen  [View Original Post]
    Got Cindy again. She seems more familiar with me now but at this point I think she is a big tease. If anyone knows differently please let me know. There is another girl there who she said is her roommate. Name is Alice, might give that a go.
    Cindy is definitely a big tease. She's young, cute, and has a great body, and uses light touch around your upper legs to make you think something can happen. But in my experience it won't. She refuses to let me touch her at all and will only allow DIY while she continues the light touch on your legs. Then will say "it's only for you, no one else". If jerking off in front of a cute young thing does it for you, then she's good. Of course, YMMV.

    Marco

  8. #11918

    Imho

    It's really hard to lump everyone in the same bucket. You do have the ones that Nite explains 40 yr divorced mom but also have the young single college aged girls like Cindy at T. To understand either one must understand their culture and thier language. As I stated before I speak fluent Chinese so I have had occasison to date several thearpists over the years and get to know many details the average monger might not. One thing I will say is that something like 80% of these ladies are from Shenyang pronounced (shenyoung) Its in Northern China (extremely cold). If you ever want to go to monger heaven this is where it is. LOL. On another note, I dated at gal who had her own (mostly) legit shop in Miami. She had about 3 gals working for her and did approx $10k a week in business, not bad with overhead only $50k. Its always a 50/50 split with the house and the girls keep 100% of the tips. Whats more, lets just say the phrase "reporting tips" to the govt doesn't translate well " LOL. Anyway, my main point is that while many of the girls can earn a good living $40. $50k a year on average (many are much less) , most are not getting rich but can do ok. Look, they live together, don't eat out much and only spend their money on luxury goods that can be seen. The expensive car, burberry purse, etc. They come here just like any other immigrant for a better life. No different than the Mexican, the African born Black or the korean. They all want people to see that they have made it and are different from the crowd. Somehting we all strive for I suppose.

  9. #11917
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1  [View Original Post]
    It amazes me why some of these Chinese women come to America. Many of them are successful in China and they leave, what sounds like good jobs and family, to come here and struggle with language and culture and a work schedule most Americans wouldn't take. The work they do here is below their station in China. My assumption is that many of them are very frugal, with the exception of their autos, saving their $. Of course, just like most women I've met in my life, they are looking for a LTR. The ones I have built relationships with have been businesswomen / managers, nurses, pharmacists, etc. Working at massage stores. A few have had lower stations in China in their work, but not many.

    Some claim to have a great deal of investment and multiple homes.
    Well, you might know their personal lives better than I do, but I know a lot of them are single moms. Most single moms in China struggle, especially those 40-ish as no Chinese guy will ever want them again. I honestly can't believe that most of them had a better life in China.

  10. #11916
    Quote Originally Posted by Steak 404  [View Original Post]

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Vb  [View Original Post]
    I have no opinion about what did or didn't happen at the AMP. AMP's aren't my thing. What is clear to me as I've become more active in following the forum is that the threshold for becoming a SM is too low. It's doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whose contributions are good, iffy, or just plain BS. IMHO it's more about the content and less about level of membership.

    AV.

    Yeah the only thing Senior does mean is you didn't create your account last week. I'm not sure what the actual formula is for gaining Senior status is it has some quantity of post component and a time-based component. Meaning even if your went around doing a ton of post within a very short period of time it would not give you Senior status. Where that has some value, IMO, is in vetting for LE. Certainly not a perfect vetting mechanism (& don't blindly rely on it) , but MOST jurisdictions don't plan 3 months out and start building message board personas.

    All that said, Senior has absolutely nothing to do with quality.
    .
    I know that I wrote it, but good grief, I would appreciate if you gents would stop quoting the line I posted about my not having game. I was trying to be nice, not prophetic.

    Actually, this is follow up to my previous post about Hong. Went back since first time the massage was above average for me and I still can't figure out the name of who I saw. Besides, I was still just a little curious about the place. This time, I met Rosa, not Rose. Rosa was not the lady I saw the first time. Rosa acted like she was the manager as she said she had two, sometimes three other ladies working there. She also handled the phones, even during my massage which is a pet peeve. She either did not understand my question or was just ignoring, because she would not name any of the other ladies. Massage was way too rough for my tastes. Big difference between firm, hard and mauling. Guys looking for a very hard, legit massage, she is your gal.

    I have no further intention of going back, especially since a couple of you gentlemen were kind enough to post or PM better alternatives for legit massages, ie, Jenny, Heather, Angela. Thanks for that.

  11. #11915
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy1  [View Original Post]
    It amazes me why some of these Chinese women come to America. Many of them are successful in China and they leave, what sounds like good jobs and family, to come here and struggle with language and culture and a work schedule most Americans wouldn't take. The work they do here is below their station in China. My assumption is that many of them are very frugal, with the exception of their autos, saving their $. Of course, just like most women I've met in my life, they are looking for a LTR. The ones I have built relationships with have been businesswomen / managers, nurses, pharmacists, etc. Working at massage stores. A few have had lower stations in China in their work, but not many.

    Some claim to have a great deal of investment and multiple homes.
    Take all that with a grain of salt.

    Most people that are insecure or ashamed about what they do, lie.

    Remember the bumper sticker on late model Ford Festivas or similar,"Buy other car is a Porsche"

  12. #11914
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    Posts: 189
    It amazes me why some of these Chinese women come to America. Many of them are successful in China and they leave, what sounds like good jobs and family, to come here and struggle with language and culture and a work schedule most Americans wouldn't take. The work they do here is below their station in China. My assumption is that many of them are very frugal, with the exception of their autos, saving their $. Of course, just like most women I've met in my life, they are looking for a LTR. The ones I have built relationships with have been businesswomen / managers, nurses, pharmacists, etc. Working at massage stores. A few have had lower stations in China in their work, but not many.

    Some claim to have a great deal of investment and multiple homes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    Anna at Healing Touch is a perfect example of that!

  13. #11913
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vette78Man  [View Original Post]
    You would be surprised how many of them actually more than they appear. It is very eye opening.
    Anna at Healing Touch is a perfect example of that!

  14. #11912
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    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by NotParticular  [View Original Post]
    Actually, Heather is the owner of Harmony, Mark lives in her house. She won't marry him because she has all the coin!

    She is more than she appears.

    NP
    First time I heard of the matrimony rejection issue, I was surprised. I mean, although Heather has a rather bubbly personality, she's no prize catch by any stretch. Mark seems like an OK guy, so why the hell would she refuse to marry him? If she's afraid he's not bringing enough into the relationship, such as money, why do they even live together? Perhaps Mark is happy drilling her pussy or maybe he hopes she'll marry him someday. Personally, I feel sorry for any guy who gets caught up in the drama of yearning for a long-term relationship with a provider, even a massage girl. If I were Mark, I'd get my ass over to the Philippines or Thailand and fuck some quality pussy, then return to the States and take a serious look at my female roomie.

    So many of these less-than-stellar Chinese women, who would have no life in China, come over here and get spoiled quick. I see so many massage girls driving luxury-brand vehicles and still complaining their vehicle isn't good enough. In China their ass would be eking out a meager living and they'd be riding the subway.

    Bottom line: Don't get emotionally involved with a provider. It's a recipe for disaster.

  15. #11911
    [QUOTE=Adam Vb; 1787510]I have no opinion about what did or didn't happen at the AMP. AMP's aren't my thing. What is clear to me as I've become more active in following the forum is that the threshold for becoming a SM is too low. It's doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine whose contributions are good, iffy, or just plain BS. IMHO it's more about the content and less about level of membership.

    AV.

    Quote Originally Posted by AMP Fme  [View Original Post]
    I would never say BS to a senior here, because my thinking is that IF someone is going to BS, they will get called on it well before they achieve senior status. But based on my visit this past weekend, I can only surmise that you sir, have much better game than I. Not that this is saying a whole bunch.
    Yeah the only thing Senior does mean is you didn't create your account last week. I'm not sure what the actual formula is for gaining Senior status is it has some quantity of post component and a time-based component. Meaning even if your went around doing a ton of post within a very short period of time it would not give you Senior status. Where that has some value, IMO, is in vetting for LE. Certainly not a perfect vetting mechanism (& don't blindly rely on it) , but MOST jurisdictions don't plan 3 months out and start building message board personas.

    All that said, Senior has absolutely nothing to do with quality.

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