Escort Reports

[B Beall]

A few thoughts, offered as always as my opinion, not legal advice. And, as always, if you get in any trouble following them you can have your money back.

My suspicion, just a suspicion at this point, is that "Kandi" was never real. That forum over there is full of stories of her trying to find a mentor, or agent, or something; I don't quite remember how it was described. But it brings up a point: there may be an effort underway to make felony solicitation charges through requesting doubles, looking for agents, or whatever. If so it certainly skates on entrapment, but then the point might be to bring the charges and see what develops. I have recommended to friends that providers refrain from booking doubles at all, and suggest to trusted clients that they should make all the arrangements themselves. Refrain from anything that even suggests helping two other people break the law, or arranging for two others to meet.

The Fourth amendment protects against excessive search and seizure. Police making an arrest have a right to seize incidental items (that is, items on your person or in your control). That did not use to grant the right to use the contents of such a search without obtaining a warrant, but the combination of the ubiquitous and maddening cellphone with the last thirty years of "Throw them all in prison" mentality has changed the equation. The question of whether police can use information found on your phone is now moot. The Court, God love and preserve them, has punted the issue for now. In Ohio it is illegal for police to use your phone without a warrant. In California (thanks to a court decision and a Jerry Brown veto) it's permissible. There's been no decision in Indiana, none that I've located, anyway, so it's probably safe to assume that if you're arrested the police will help themselves to your information. Do you really need to carry your regular phone to dates? Or any phone? If you need an emergency phone get one, and keep it free of incriminating information.

Likewise it's becoming obvious that IMPD has greatly increased its efforts to get arrestees to volunteer access to phones and other accounts. You are not required to do so, on Fourth amendment grounds, and you cannot incur any penalty for failing to do so. These two tools have greatly increased police power.

If you are planning to do anything for which you might be arrested you should change your mind unless you are prepared to be arrested. You have the right to remain silent. Invoke it. It's absolutely in your best interests to do so. Understand your rights. Understand what facing a Class A misdemeanor with automatic diversion means. Don't just be safe, or careful. Be smart.

[HandfulOfWheel]

I want to run and start a new profile in a situation like this. However I will just practice more diligence and discretion. FF has set of steel to stick his neck out. Kudos buddy. I am reminded as to why you can never get complacent. We all need to watch new profiles of new hobbyist or provider. If a woman screens you poorly, then she screens all poorly. While trusting established ladies is a good start that doesn't guarantee safety. I can only wish that LE would devote more time to the streets, truck stops, or legitimate child trafficking. My feeling is that there is little to no real child trafficking in the Midwest. It sounds good in the news articles as a stated purpose for the use of resources.

We all know that there is real drug trafficking in our wonderful city that never seems to result in reports. It is also clear that the hobby has many different levels based on price point. In this case the high end is under attack. I can only assume that is because some prominent names may come to light and big stories could result from this approach. The Gov or his kind may temporarily damage the hobby locally, but what damage will be done to convention business. We all see the increase in ads when an event comes to town. Since Indy is working on more convention business I can't help but wonder if organizers are realistic about the attendees desires to enjoy their visits. If Indy has a bad reputation with visiting ladies it will trickle up to those who make decisions about booking events here. Good luck getting another Super Bowl.

Good points my friend. With a couple or more of my other friends down now from LE actions, it makes me wonder how much risk management I want or need to partake. Now it seems like I'll just go back to getting take-out from strip clubs. Fortunately, I get to travel to other areas that are more open, but locally it's getting too difficult.

[Aramis De V]

Yea, no shit! I obviously can't comment there due to them deleting my fucking account. LOL. And if I start up a new one, of course no one would believe it was me. I left a review for a nice girl I've seen a couple times, simple as that. Obviously, she got popped by the hit squad sometime between the last time I saw her and yesterday. If you want more info, PM me.

The rumors are inaccurate, to say the least. My reputation and helping many other mongers speaks for itself.

They did that because your IP address is oddly the same as that Kandi that you reviewed, just saying.

[Lion7170]

I want to run and start a new profile in a situation like this. However I will just practice more diligence and discretion. FF has set of steel to stick his neck out. Kudos buddy. I am reminded as to why you can never get complacent. We all need to watch new profiles of new hobbyist or provider. If a woman screens you poorly, then she screens all poorly. While trusting established ladies is a good start that doesn't guarantee safety. I can only wish that LE would devote more time to the streets, truck stops, or legitimate child trafficking. My feeling is that there is little to no real child trafficking in the Midwest. It sounds good in the news articles as a stated purpose for the use of resources.

We all know that there is real drug trafficking in our wonderful city that never seems to result in reports. It is also clear that the hobby has many different levels based on price point. In this case the high end is under attack. I can only assume that is because some prominent names may come to light and big stories could result from this approach. The Gov or his kind may temporarily damage the hobby locally, but what damage will be done to convention business. We all see the increase in ads when an event comes to town. Since Indy is working on more convention business I can't help but wonder if organizers are realistic about the attendees desires to enjoy their visits. If Indy has a bad reputation with visiting ladies it will trickle up to those who make decisions about booking events here. Good luck getting another Super Bowl.

[Low Down]

Due to them deleting my fucking account.

Who deleted your account and why?

[Member #6963]

Yea, no shit! I obviously can't comment there due to them deleting my fucking account. LOL. And if I start up a new one, of course no one would believe it was me. I left a review for a nice girl I've seen a couple times, simple as that. Obviously, she got popped by the hit squad sometime between the last time I saw her and yesterday. If you want more info, PM me.

The rumors are inaccurate, to say the least. My reputation and helping many other mongers speaks for itself.

Thanks I appreciate your input. Here are my thoughts. A hobbyist that cares about the providers and other hobbyists would not fight this because they understand that protecting others is more important than a handle. A well known hobbyist can easily be re-verified under a new handle.

There is only one way I can think of to verify and clear your name. See a very well known provider that you know. Sign onto your accounts, boards and e-mails, in front of them. Prove to them you have not been compromised. If you know other mongers they can verify you also because they can contact and even meet with you if you have met them before. Right now safety is number one and your god given right to your handle is way down on the list. Sorry for your luck but I don't trust your handle on any board.

I also don't trust Michaelr62 on aNotherReview site, Kandi, Jenny on the southside or ZippyZoey. That's life so be it!

[B Beall]

I have twice now by PM asked you to provide a physical detail about a long-retired provider you suggested you've seen. I report now to the board that the first time I did so-almost twenty-four hours ago now-was the last time I heard from you.

As I explained then, the first step towards rehabilitating your reputation would be to prove that you are currently in control of your account here. I was willing to listen.

However, such offers have to be time sensitive, and mine is now withdrawn. I suppose that RL may intrude, even on the effort to restore your good name. You should be able to offer a similar proof to someone else here.

[Osirusss]

Yea, no shit! I obviously can't comment there due to them deleting my fucking account. LOL. And if I start up a new one, of course no one would believe it was me. I left a review for a nice girl I've seen a couple times, simple as that. Obviously, she got popped by the hit squad sometime between the last time I saw her and yesterday. If you want more info, PM me.

The rumors are inaccurate, to say the least. My reputation and helping many other mongers speaks for itself.

Broiler was a Sr member here. Why do you have 6 post as of 5-12-2013? Something is fishey here!

[Indypleasures]

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[Grboiler]

Yea, no shit! I obviously can't comment there due to them deleting my fucking account. LOL. And if I start up a new one, of course no one would believe it was me. I left a review for a nice girl I've seen a couple times, simple as that. Obviously, she got popped by the hit squad sometime between the last time I saw her and yesterday. If you want more info, PM me.

The rumors are inaccurate, to say the least. My reputation and helping many other mongers speaks for itself.

You bear a resemblance to a similarly named, previously highly respected user on aNotheR site that has suddenly disappeared amongst all the latest developments. Any chance you can comment on some of the rumors / stories surrounding your namesake?

[TryinAgain2]

Thanks, FF. Your reports were responsible, and the Raven thing was an understandable (and brief) miscommunication.

Let's just note the damage done by the flip side of paranoia: if you're a hobbyist, you do have someone following you. Not you, personally, but you as a class. And as such if you don't know the law, don't know what you're facing, and aren't prepared to face it you've got no business in the hobby. You've committed a Class A misdemeanor. In Marion county it's an automatic diversion program for first offenders. The only thing you accomplish by surrendering accounts is putting six more people in the same situation for the same "crime".

I trust the info given the source. Use caution!

You bear a resemblance to a similarly named, previously highly respected user on aNotheR site that has suddenly disappeared amongst all the latest developments. Any chance you can comment on some of the rumors / stories surrounding your namesake?

[Whatdafuq]

Several hobbyists busted by Kandi when contacting her on aNotherReview site. The hobbyists that gave her reviews are suspect to have given their I'd to LE. Be careful. Also ZippyZoey profile on the same site is now with LE. Do not see her from that profile.

At this time still not sure about Sexy by Raven escort site. Will advise when more is known.

FF

I do research myself but always check for an approval from FF and a few others on here, YOU the MAN!

[Grboiler]

I trust the info given the source. Use caution!

Thanks, FF. Your reports were responsible, and the Raven thing was an understandable (and brief) miscommunication.

Let's just note the damage done by the flip side of paranoia: if you're a hobbyist, you do have someone following you. Not you, personally, but you as a class. And as such if you don't know the law, don't know what you're facing, and aren't prepared to face it you've got no business in the hobby. You've committed a Class A misdemeanor. In Marion county it's an automatic diversion program for first offenders. The only thing you accomplish by surrendering accounts is putting six more people in the same situation for the same "crime".

[B Beall]

Sexy by Raven is ok. They were not involved. Sorry for the confusion but I felt it was important to warn everyone until it was known for sure. Kandi is LE and they set up the sting. Her two reviewers are now in LE hands so providers beware.

FF

Thanks, FF. Your reports were responsible, and the Raven thing was an understandable (and brief) miscommunication.

Let's just note the damage done by the flip side of paranoia: if you're a hobbyist, you do have someone following you. Not you, personally, but you as a class. And as such if you don't know the law, don't know what you're facing, and aren't prepared to face it you've got no business in the hobby. You've committed a Class A misdemeanor. In Marion county it's an automatic diversion program for first offenders. The only thing you accomplish by surrendering accounts is putting six more people in the same situation for the same "crime".

[Member #6963]

Warning to all. A sting today with a provider from this service (name unknown) has several hobbyists now in the custody of Marion County. It is possible she flipped alone and the service is ok but not worth the chance. Be careful with this service they have several ladies visiting in town. See the Sexy by Raven website.

http://sexybyraven.com/user/login

FF

Sexy by Raven is ok. They were not involved. Sorry for the confusion but I felt it was important to warn everyone until it was known for sure. Kandi is LE and they set up the sting. Her two reviewers are now in LE hands so providers beware.

FF