"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[BigTigger]

MsOxymoron completely flaked on me. No response and missed our standing Friday date.

MsPartyGirl did not answer my calls or text after a brief convo that ended when my signal dropped.

MsIntelligentBeauty missed our date because she had medical issues.

MsCLHottie just stopped returning all calls and texts.

So down to MsWhataBody and MsMarriedHorny.
There is one more, but I can't remember her callsign right now.

Got another hit from SA. 24 year old AA nurse.

Followed up on a SD4Me lead. 31 year old cosmetologist who does "private dancing" on the side. AA, nice body, nice face. She is more of a semi-pro. Agreed to $$$$ per month, meeting once a week to start.

BigTigg

[Revvo]

Haha Fred that is certainly not my goal.

I want to get it down to about 1k per month. But I have been just in a whirlwind interview phase.

Agreed on the POT thing still getting organized.

I am culling them down quickly. And costs should go down with it.

Thanks for the comments.

Revvo

Revvo, you are becoming a most proliferative member of the bowl. Congratulations!

Keep in mind that your Pots are no longer Pots but "real" SBs after you bed them.

I calculate that your week cost you $ 800 plus expenses so that puts you into the $ 3 to 4K / month range. At those rates you can buy yourself a GPS girl.

[PartyTimeGuy]

I have been the victim of many flakes since pursuing this little adventure. And it has been a source of great frustration. I am certain that I am not the only one. So to help myself as well as my brothers out.

I thought I might put together a little cheat sheet to help with the flaking problem. This is not all inclusive but it has the gist of the issues. Simply look at the characteristics below and select which ones your potential baby has. If she has more than two of these you are looking at t potential flake. If more than three you may want to consider moving on.

1. White and over an 8 on the looks scale.

2. Under 25 YO.

3. Asian and over a 7 on the looks scale.

4. Talked only about herself on the profile, such as spoil me, support me, take care of me, but did not mention what she will do.

5. Only uses one word answers on her responses to you or very short answers.

6. Takes more than an hour to respond to a text.

7. Does not have a job, or is only going to school casually such as not really pursuing a degree or profession.

8. Keeps unusual hours, such as out partying all night.

9. Cannot contribute to conversation. You have to do everything to keep it going.

10. Does not seem to have any outside interests. No passion or goal.

11. Nando 1's.

12. Strippers.

13. There appears to be drama or crisis in her life, such as boyfriend is mean to her, children from more than one father, etc.

14. Only uses one form of communication eg: texting, but will not or cannot talk on phone, or does not use email.

This list is not exhaustive. You may want to add or subtract from this. Because we are talking about women here. And even worse Sugar Babies. They are not going to be easy to nail down. Keep in mind that young beautiful women are being pursued on an almost constant basis. They may get hit on in person 10 or 20 times per day in a busy city where they see a large amount of the public. Then they are being inundated with offers on the SD sites. She may be juggling many men right up until and even after she meets you. Wouldn't you do that if you could? Hell some of us do that already.

Flaking is a part of the game. Just a little list to help deal with it. Kind of. Haha.

Be careful out there.

Revvo

Flakes. WOW! There's a subject that could fill a book. I don't have a checklist but my antennae are attuned to the signs that a POT SB is not going to work out. Many of the things on your checklist are bad signs but not any or all of them are foolproof. My basic criteria include whether I am a priority with her. If that is true then I can make an effort to have her be a priority with me. Money aside, and regardless of looks or age or maturity (or lack thereof) or race or creed, this seems to be the most important thing to me that defines the basis for a good SB relationship.

[FredMoore]

I am burning the candle at both ends and in the middle. But I am getting so many hits now that I need to take advantage of it while I can. And these reports are the only way to keep it straight. As usual there is a lot of suprises. Just when you think you have one of these babies figured out something totally different happens. Thanks to Hollywood I am using some his techniques to help with qualifying and with changing my strategy to go from a scarcity mentality to an abundance mentality. F.

There you have it. My most expensive week to date.

Revvo

Revvo, you are becoming a most proliferative member of the bowl. Congratulations!

Keep in mind that your Pots are no longer Pots but "real" SBs after you bed them.

I calculate that your week cost you $ 800 plus expenses so that puts you into the $ 3 to 4K / month range. At those rates you can buy yourself a GPS girl.

[BigTigger]

#MsWhatABody: Had second date. Things went well. It was a breakfast meeting. By the time it was over, I could tell the chemistry was growing. If all goes well, she'll definitely end up in the #1 spot. I've included a pic. I'll never say someone has the perfect body, but this one sure is nice.



#MsIntelligentBeauty: We have a date tonight. This one will not turn into a incessant talk fest and I'm expecting to move the affection along as she seems to be coming around. She has sent me two erotic photos now. One was a teaser and 2nd was full frontal. Hiding the goodies but showing the beautiful breasts. Not bad for a beginning. I'm hoping the patience pays off.

#MsMarriedDeprived: She starts sexting two nights ago. And says she wants / needs me. Now we've only had one date and the 2nd one was scheduled for Wed night. So I was surprised by all of this. She was sending a few teaser pics, I asked what was she waiting on to send the rest. She say she wants me to say I want them and ask for them. This then clued me in that she likes to be told what to do. I asked for the photos and got a great breast shot. She's going on an on about being horny, etc. So I just tell her. I'll be up your way in a hour. I'm getting a room and meet me there. I just skipped all the "persuading" and "influencing". We'd never slept together, just told her to be there and what time and she was excited and game.

She shows up looking fantastic with a cute tight fitting mid-thigh cocktail (pun intended) dress, high heels and just dolled up. During the hug, my hands reveal she does not have panties on. To make this long story short. 1 hour. 4 orgasms later (for her). We were both exhausted. We met for dinner the next night as planned. 3 dates. 1 FC date and expenses only. I'm so not used to getting this type of response from CL.

#MsCosmetologist: I emailed her on SA. I got an email back from the person that found her phone. Saying that she left the phone and did not have locks on anything. This is a first. Whoever this is, offered to suck and swallow for cash. I played along hoping to get a pic and find out who this is. Now I have an interesting decision. Since I know it was not her fault for standing me up. I can stop by and get things started back up. Or let them go, since MsWhatABody is moving along just fine, is closer, has more curves and better availability for me to see and stay over. I do want to at least stop by and try get the goodies once or twice for my earlier effort. Seems a shame to let that go. Plus I'd get bonus points for telling her what's going on with her phone and making the effort to see her. I'll keep ya updated.

BigTigg

[BigTigger]

REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO MEETING A TRUE POT SB.

REQUIREMENTS FOR A 2ND or 3RD DATE FOR A TRUE POT SB.

REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON ALLOWANCE.

REQUIREMENTS FOR A BOOTY CALL GIRL.

I think this needs to be added to the mandatory SD setup. Each of us should explicitly outline each of these four categories for ourselves. Then jump into the sugar bowl. Then when you meet the POT SB, decide which category she fits in and treat her accordingly.

This really helped me to fine tune a few things.

Thanks Hollywood!!!

BigTigg

[BigTigger]

Same thing happened to me. I got about 4 weeks out of it. I also met my crazy extortionist on SD4Me. So I've left that one alone.

Gentlemen,

Just a quick post to relate an interesting situation I am having on SD4Me. On a lark, I signed up for a 3-day trial membership using a gift card with $10 left on it. I figured that I could hit it hard for three days, and hopefully add some emails to my list of local babies before they cut me off. This was almost two weeks ago, and my access is still wide open, even though my "status" says I need to update my billing info.

I have met about 10 or more babies so far, two of which I have fucked, and may need to rethink my strategy where this site is concerned. I post this not for my personal revelation-sharing, but to alert you all to a possible loophole in their billing. I'm sure they will catch me sooner or later, but until then, I'm sending out as many messages as I can!

Scott

[HollywoodGuy]

Gentlemen,

Just a quick post to relate an interesting situation I am having on SD4Me. On a lark, I signed up for a 3-day trial membership using a gift card with $10 left on it. I figured that I could hit it hard for three days, and hopefully add some emails to my list of local babies before they cut me off. This was almost two weeks ago, and my access is still wide open, even though my "status" says I need to update my billing info.

I have met about 10 or more babies so far, two of which I have fucked, and may need to rethink my strategy where this site is concerned. I post this not for my personal revelation-sharing, but to alert you all to a possible loophole in their billing. I'm sure they will catch me sooner or later, but until then, I'm sending out as many messages as I can!

Scott

It may just be a loss leader. The owners know of the guys successes on that site. Most likely you will continue your membership if they cut you off. So it may be more calculated than you think. The majority share holder has a long history and experience in the direct marketing and database management industries.

[Revvo]

I am burning the candle at both ends and in the middle. But I am getting so many hits now that I need to take advantage of it while I can. And these reports are the only way to keep it straight. As usual there is a lot of suprises. Just when you think you have one of these babies figured out something totally different happens. Thanks to Hollywood I am using some his techniques to help with qualifying and with changing my strategy to go from a scarcity mentality to an abundance mentality. Guys look at the last three or so pages there is some real gold in there from him. Anyway on to the report.

REVVOATF:Have not met with her in almost two weeks and boy do I miss her. She has been traveling for work and so have I but we are planning a full day on Friday. And man I am looking forward to it. I love the way she is so reliable, and tries to please. She says it is the Asian way and part of her culture. She gives the best enthusiastic dick sucking. She should offer a training class to the other babies. But I must say I have not had a bad blow job from any of the babies yet. I am going to tear that ass up come Monday, if I have any fluids left.

REVVOPOT1: Like I said I really like this one. Probably too much. She is my kind of woman. Beautiful, sexy, but classy, fun, funny, excellent personality. And loves sex. Remember she is a 10/9/10 so far. She is married and is planning on meeting me for an overnight; our first meeting this coming Thursday. She will drive to a place halfway between us. But then all of a sudden on Saturday, she disappears. I cannot get ahold of her for two days. Then she surfaces on text and tells me that her husband started beating her and she is crying and cannot talk. I do not hear from her for another half a day. Then she pops up again and texts and says she is trying to figure things out and husband left the house. I was thinking oh shit what is this? Some type of scam to get sympathy so she can get money from me. Another day goes by and she pops up again and she is alright. Embarrassed and worried I will think badly of her. She believes her husband started doing steroids and went into a roid rage. He claims he does not remember what happened. I did like recommended and did a complete compassion thing with her. Then we talked about meeting and she confirmed she could still do it. Just needs to arrange for mom to watch her kids. We had a nice long talk and she is all on board. So I am really really looking forward to this one. I have to get in shape for this. I am going to fuck her till she can't breath anymore. Haha.

REVVOPOT2:So this new POT started out pretty good. She was typical young white attractive with not much going on. She was very non-communicative and nice but I was having to do too much work. You know when you say to yourself. This is just too much work so I get the privileged of paying them for the pussy. So as I was turning over a new leaf on qualifying I figured she would be a good one to practice on. I have kept several POTs on literally just to practice certain techniques. She in particular. So now I told her that communication is important to me and if she wanted to continue this process she will need to respond in a decent amount of time. I treat her well she needs to treat me well. And that I required verbal as well as texting and email. She agreed but has fell down on the verbal phone. She says she does not like to talk on the phone. I believe is very important. And it is amazing to me that an adult woman would expect to have an adult sexual relationship with a man but will not talk to him on the phone. She is literally cutting herself off. Anyway I don't think it will go anywhere but I cannot keep them all anyway.

REVVOPOT3: This new POT has come on really strong one of the many surprises in this report. She has the makings of a real good long term SB. She is beautiful. 9/9/8 so far. She is sharp has a good head on her shoulders. 25yo hot latina, beautiful dark eyes and a smile that could kill, oh and that ass OMG. She has a small child and has had one of those stupid overpaying SD's in the past. Who put her on an allowance and gave her a car. But that is all over with and she is now being hit with the real world. Still a potential for GPS here. As I was told and I tell all of the babies now. There are a lot of want to be SD's or bad SD's but there are only a few good SD's. We have emailed and talked on the phone. I got her blood up and she is anxious to meet so we are meeting on Friday at Starbucks. We are already talked some logistics but not price. She brought up the allowance thing. And I just told her we will stick with a pay per visit for now and see if we hit it off. I am going to try for my standard 200. I only have one at 150 and none at 100. If we do we get along we can talk allowance. At the least I can get a couple of months of first class pussy out of this before I have to commit. More to come on this one. This is what I consider high class SB with a real job and real life.

REVVOPOT4: I am plugging a new one in here. This is one I found that had only been on the site for one hour. Thanks again to Hollywood on this. Dude you are a fucking grand master in my book. She is a 29yo cute latina kindergarten school teacher. She is a real spinner. 4'11", and has a nice face and a rockin body. I will give her a 7/8/9 for now. Very good on the communication. I am qualifying more and more. And the amazing thing is. The babies they respond positively to this. I also went over some of my rules with her and she lapped it up. They want the structure the want the qualification, they want the rules. It is so much better than a guy who is deceitful and lying and hiding stuff from them. Anyway she is very responsive has a life and we are scheduled to meet for lunch tomorrow. I only met online with her yesterday. What a nice surprise. Once again this is a much easier one. Not trying to push so much.

REVVOPOT5: This new pot was off of the new members also. Very very sexual. And ready to go. Has a boyfriend who is good with this and loves the kinky stuff, spankings, bondage, blindfolds. And needs to fuck every day. We did a chat last night and she started sending me pics. Really wild stuff. But she is really rough looking, and heavy with stretch marks. I am going to give her a 4/5/8. I know I know some guys would rather fuck a lower one several times. And she did agree to my rock bottom 150 with no questions asked. But guys I just cannot do it. I just refuse to pay to fuck a woman that I am not attracted to. I know all pussy is pink on the inside and she would probably fuck my brains out. But I am looking for both qualities. Look at my ATF or POT1. Or my old ATF, that is what I am looking for. Anyway I am not going to meet her. Just have to tell her. So this field will be blank next week. I literally do not have the time or the money.

REVVOPOT6: This was another one of the surprises of the week. Twice. We were all set to go to the FC for Tuesday we had a great M&G last Friday, and she was very excited telling me all of those good things. Like how good looking I am and how much she likes me and wants to see me. And then just like a light switch she vanishes goes totally dark not a word. She was one of those that is really into honesty and I thought maybe she caught me in a lie or something. But no she is gone. So it was not fun because I saw her has a good LT POT. It was a big disappointment. Then after I write her off she texts me today before my 1:30 lunch M&G with another POT and tells me how sorry she is and about a string of bad things that have happened to her since Saturday. Drama around her. I respond back sympathetic but cool. She slowly starts to respond. But she is still being kind of quite. Communication is still a problem. I am not getting my hopes up. But I do want to wax that ass and play with those big titties of hers.

REVVOPOT7: This one went very well on Monday. Met her for lunch she dressed nice and fixed herself up for me nice. We had a nice conversation and then went to the FC. She was very shy about her body even though she is very cute and has a nice little spinner body. She is blond and thin. I am going to hold her rating at a 7/8/9. Great girl. 29yo white MILF. She is in very bad financial straights and has two kids. She is holding it together and uses the bus since she does not have a car. We really had a good time but I just feel bad for her. So cute and nice, and making it in the world with a good attitude. Sad. But the fucking was great, and another great blowjob. Very enthusiastic and she really like it too. At least that is what she told me. I gave her 150 and 20 for the babysitter. I may literally keep fucking her as a mercy fuck. Because she is just going to get fucked over by one of these asshole SD's out there. But also I am going to have to trim some from the herd. She may be a victim. I know is sounds crazy but I really only want about two good ones and maybe one fly-in for variety. I will consider this one a success.

REVVOPOT8: This spot was a flake from last week and I have plugged in a new POT. Found her early on also. She is very nice a suprise and we texted and chatted and agreed to a M&G today Wednesday. Her pics were good. She seemed to have a good attitude and was pretty cool. Liked my rules and was good with communication. We met and she was cute. Not great but cute. Exotic mixed race. Rating went down when I saw her naked though. She is 18yo latina / asian give her a 7/6/6. We had lunch and then we were getting along good asked her to go to the FC she agreed so I set it up. Very young so I needed to go slow. By the way I checked her I'd and she is 18 will be 19 soon. The FC visit went slow and tedious. There was just not a lot of passion. I could tell she really liked me. But she was not coming out of her shell any time soon. We did a lot of massaging and then she blew me. Both were good. But it was like she wanted to take charge but she really did not know what she was doing other than the blow job. I think I could spend 6 months of hard work rehabilitating her and get into being a really good little sugar baby, at 200 per visit. But I am not going to spend the money or the time. She is a very sweet girl and she really likes me. But there is just too much baggage. Not NANDO1 but could be really easily. Oh and she is a stripper, and she asked for the money up front. And she tried to avoid kissing. Very bad sign. Too much like an escort. Those really broke my rules. I would classify this as a 4 fuck on as scale of 1 to 10. Will not be doing her again. Now I just have to end it. Yuk.

REVVOPOT9: This one is scheduled to meet on Thursday after work. So I will be getting the hotel room ordered tomorrow. But she is not a flake. I can tell already she is smart sexy, alternative type. With cute red hair, and gorgeous skin. Just a little on the heavy side. She is kinky and fun. So I am looking forward to some crazy sex. She just may wear me out. I think my standard 200 will work for her. Lets see what happens. Will have more on the next report.

There you have it. My most expensive week to date.

Monday, FC.

Tuesday, Flake on FC.

Wednesday, M&G led to the FC.

Thurdsay, M&G lunch, and FC dinner.

Friday, M&G early, then spend the day with my ATF.

I am going to be so tired that I am going to make my ATF do all of the work.

There you go. Comments suggestions. I am all ears.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

[F Scott]

Gentlemen,

Just a quick post to relate an interesting situation I am having on SD4Me. On a lark, I signed up for a 3-day trial membership using a gift card with $10 left on it. I figured that I could hit it hard for three days, and hopefully add some emails to my list of local babies before they cut me off. This was almost two weeks ago, and my access is still wide open, even though my "status" says I need to update my billing info.

I have met about 10 or more babies so far, two of which I have fucked, and may need to rethink my strategy where this site is concerned. I post this not for my personal revelation-sharing, but to alert you all to a possible loophole in their billing. I'm sure they will catch me sooner or later, but until then, I'm sending out as many messages as I can!

Scott

[HollywoodGuy]

Awesome organization Hollywood!

Your approach is one to emulate and envy. I am going to work on the $ rule. Since I prefer white, non Nando 1 types, GPS runs amok in my part of the country, so I'm not sure I will find one.

I was chatting up a cute teeny age 19 yesterday who is a 7/7? And she quoted $2000 / month that her previous Daddy gave her. Riiiight! I seriously doubt it but they can shoot for the moon if they want to stay at home on the computer instead of banging a real Daddy for $/pop.

Another Pot I am seriously infatuated with (pictures, vulnerability) wants (needs) $2000 / month as well. What the hell? She is verging on Nando 1 territory I am afraid, but I will try the $ rule. She can see me more often if she wants more.

I continue to have my CATF (current ATF) I am seeing weekly for 250 all night. She is almost perfect but doesn't exhibit some components of the HR (Hollywood Rule) that I need. She is white, size 0, C cup tits, long lustrous hair. 10/10/9, highly orgasmic and vocal, shaved bald, lives 1 1/2 hrs away (buffer from the warden) and says loving things. But, she hasn't dropped the L Bomb, won't see me twice / week for free, and doesn't like kissing and snuggling all night. So I continue to look for the optimal SB. This Baby will be moving out of state at the end of the summer anyway so I need to have a backup plan ready to go.

Even at $ a date. 20 to 25 dates a month adds up fast. Kissing is like vitamin C for me. So without it, as they say on yelp, meh. I believe there are girls that get 2k a month and more. If you were seeing them 5 times a week it could be worth it. But $$.5 and no kissing? That would not work for me more than a couple times. Cast a wide net. Hit up every girl within range. Let them know you are interested in multiple monthly visits (whether you are or not) so that the $ times the # of visits will be worth it

[HollywoodGuy]

Ok. So I am assuming these are the things you qualify them on. Is that correct?

Now do you confront them with all of these issues? If so do you do it up front? Before the interview, during the interview, throughout the process?

I think that qualifying is my weak spot right now.

Revvo

Always upfront

[FredMoore]

Anyone see the pubic hair in the teeth episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm " with Larry David? It's worth a look up if not. And it will convince you even more not to eat hairy pussy.

[Colgado]

Since getting into the Bowl several years ago, I don't think I have seen anything but A shaved baby.

Scott

I like them with lasered labia with a tiny landing strip.

[ICantGetNo]

anyone under 20, i get to take a photo of license and forward. not only do you have to worry about parents if they're still living at home, the last thing you want is leo, and especially fbi or homeland security, which both work **** trafficking heavily.

verify the birthday beyond question before even discussing sexual activities.