"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Jaw4You** · 05-04-13 14:38

Originally Posted by ICantGetNo [View Original Post]

New member having relocated from So. Cal. To Richmond. Gentlemen, the information dispensed on this forum is a must read for all participating in the wonderful hobby of ours. I see a best selling book or movie blockbuster coming out of these threads. The info is phenomenal.

But onto business. I've been in contact with the Baroness and had a long running email conversation. When I decided not to pursue her, she turned on me like a cobra. It was pretty shocking how quickly and nasty she became. I was estatic that I ended that pursuit when I did. It may have been a bad day, but I don't think so. Be wary.

Thanks. I am going to meet her for lunch, but she is already trying to negotiate allowance without even meeting so I pretty sure it won't get too far, but her pics are very nice and it will be an enjoyable arm candy lunch at the minimum. I will update afterwards.

**F Scott** · 05-04-13 14:38

Gentlemen,

Out of curiosity, I google imaged her picture. Here is her website: http://www.scarlettjamesburlesque.com/about.html

Looks like she could give most men a hernia, but maybe that's not a bad thing. I have had two babies who were involved in the Modern Burlesque movement, and both were completely uninhibited in bed, if also a bit bossy. Bad with the good, I say.

Scott

**PartyTimeGuy** · 05-04-13 13:11

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo

I had one tilted kilt success too. Those outfits are HOT!

Challenges and frustrations? If you do this enough there will be plenty. Forget the ones that never even showed up which are about 20 but I thought about it long and hard and I have had at least 5 failures in physically meeting a SB for the first time. All these failures were her meeting me in a hotel room before we even had met in person. Two of them came into the room, were very nervous and just wanted to leave after a few minutes of talking. My guess is that regardless of the approach I would have struck out on those. They just weren't ready. On two occasions I did my typical kissing and fondling, undressing her and eating them out and afterward they both begged off further activity saying it wasn't for them. On both occasions I was at least able to convince them to give me a HJ in all fairness after I had gotten them off. One sucked and fucked me for an hour and then suddenly quickly got dressed and bolted from the room even leaving her purse behind which she returned for. Given that I have had well over 100 SBs give or take I suppose this is not such a bad batting average. I don't know that it taught me much other than that you are going to run into some women who just either aren't into you physically or are just getting cold feet regarding the reality of it.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 05-04-13 12:50

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

First date percentage for sexual contact is about 80% (oral or HJ) and intercourse about 50 % of the time. My rule is they have to be within 45 minutes drive or cum to me. Also happy to be a trusted member of this thread. Thanks.

Also of my current top 3 girls. 2 I had intercourse on the first date and the other on the 3rd date.

One of the things I definitely love about the SB Hunt is the initial kissing and fondling with a new baby. It takes me back to fumbling in the back seat of the car in HS. I typically go solidly from first to second to third and eating her out. I am batting almost 1. 000 on that one. Oral from her is almost a given after that, quid pro quo and all. If we fuck too then that's fine but I am happy with oral. I often prefer that to fucking anyway. Just lean back and watch her bobbing up and down sloppily and wide-eyed and offer the occasional nasty instructions.

**Donwhite** · 05-04-13 12:24

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo

Out of State Babies.

My situation is a lot different than most of you. I'm a 29 year old single bachelor. Therefore, I don't have to maintain as stealthy of an alter ego as most of you. At one point, I had trouble finding anyone that I wanted to meet in my state (Tennessee) so I used the search feature on SA to search around 250 miles from the area I live in. If I didn't find anyone who sparked my interest, I searched by nearby states (Alabama, Georgia, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, Virgina, Florida, etc.) I like to talk and build up a rapport for a couple of weeks and I really like to skype and talk on the phone with potentials. I have big fingers and really hate texting. Once I feel comfortable, then I'd talk about them coming to visit. Some were very eager to come to Nashville and even drove 4-6 hours to meet me. I've had a 30 year old MILF come to visit from Alabama, a 25 year old Hawaiian tropics girl from Georgia, and a 20 year old girls of the sec playboy model from Mississippi. They all drove 4-6 hours to meet me and spend the night. Since they spent all the time driving to see me I generally compensated them well $500 for an overnight which I thought was fair since they basically spent 8-12 hours driving round trip. Some of you may disagree, but it's my money and I'll do whatever I want to with it.

There are certain pitfalls to this. Some insist on gas money before coming to visit. Sometimes it's a scam, I've only done that 4 times and only one actually came to visit after I sent money (The Hawaiian Tropics Model). Also, if you buy a plane ticket they can try to swap it for another ticket or try to cash it in. I've had that happen once.

I've tried to fly potentials in 3 times. One cashed in the ticket like I said before and the other two did come to visit. One was a 5'7 part time model from Richmond. She let me film us together and one was a 5'8 web cam model from Florida. Flying in can be expensive. I paid more for the fly ins once you consider dinner, activities, shopping, hotel rooms, cab fare, air fare etc. It ended up being at least 1K after everything was paid for.

Feel free to ask any questions and I'll try to comment when I have time.

**ICantGetNo** · 05-04-13 12:05

New member having relocated from So. Cal. To Richmond. Gentlemen, the information dispensed on this forum is a must read for all participating in the wonderful hobby of ours. I see a best selling book or movie blockbuster coming out of these threads. The info is phenomenal.

But onto business. I've been in contact with the Baroness and had a long running email conversation. When I decided not to pursue her, she turned on me like a cobra. It was pretty shocking how quickly and nasty she became. I was estatic that I ended that pursuit when I did. It may have been a bad day, but I don't think so. Be wary.

Originally Posted by Jaw4You [View Original Post]

Have been on and off with several long term SB's over the years and have been on the board before about some blackmail scheme a girl in RIchmond tried to run on me about a year ago. Dipping my toe back in and have date in Richmond for lunch on Tuesday with someone from SD4ME, where I have had good success before.

Since those of you who post and participate here have a good knowledge of the VA area I was wondering if anyone has come across the person with a profile #3747682 and goes by the name TheRealBaroness. Seems very high end and claims to have done this before. M.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Just doing my recon and want to make sure the M&G is worth the drive to Richmond from Charlottesville.

Thanks,

**PartyTimeGuy** · 05-04-13 09:26

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

The real money is what she takes from her be*tches at work (no offense to all you strip club lovers). I personally have never flipped a dancer. But you got her just at the right moment. And timing is everything. Of course being in Hollywood the girls are a little more hardcore. But this girl sounds fresh off the farm.

To ensure your safety and her income, just tell her stick to handjobs and fetish requests (which a lot of girls won't do but pay better money). You can laugh about her encounters when she tells you all about them in bed.

You are right. Most dancers have heard and seen it all if they have been stripping long enough and most are jaded and hard core. Most also have plenty of suckers willing to drop hundreds on them just to hang out with them at the bar and get their crotches rubbed in the back room or in the "champagne room" where they get to pay an awful lot for a very little. I did catch this fresh young thing at the right moment and timing IS everything.

You are a great sounding board for this. We clearly think very much alike on the subject of sugar babies.

**Jaw4You** · 05-04-13 07:51

Have been on and off with several long term SB's over the years and have been on the board before about some blackmail scheme a girl in RIchmond tried to run on me about a year ago. Dipping my toe back in and have date in Richmond for lunch on Tuesday with someone from SD4ME, where I have had good success before.

Since those of you who post and participate here have a good knowledge of the VA area I was wondering if anyone has come across the person with a profile #3747682 and goes by the name TheRealBaroness. Seems very high end and claims to have done this before. M.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Just doing my recon and want to make sure the M&G is worth the drive to Richmond from Charlottesville.

Thanks,

**Jaw4You** · 05-04-13 07:44

I read your post with a huge smile. I go to Germany once a quarter on business as my companies HQ is about an hour north of Frankfurt. I never go to the office without a quick stop at Oase for a nap, coffee and a quickie. The openness about sex in Germany is amazing and I am actually glad I don't live the as I would be in Hell already!

Travel safe and enjoy!

Originally Posted by HighCotton [View Original Post]

And all why'all are going to call bullshit, but I swear on the holy bowl'o'sugar its true. And I haven't told anyone. And its killin me.

So I'm in insurance, go to Europe for big company meetings a few times a year. Being the ginormous perv I am, I've been to every FKK club known to man, and a few trips ago went to this swingers club that lets a few single dudes in. Had a great time banging frauleins while their husbands watched. Its their thing. Who am I to judge.

So a few weeks ago I'm heading over, fire up SA, search Dusseldorf and send out a perfect torpedo spread (Sub Cmdr would be proud) of perfectly blunt "I want to meet, take you to dinner, and if we "click" take you to a swingers club" messages. I'm guessing my chance of success is about 1.

I get a response.

From a hot, blond, blue eyed german girl. Seriously. Very attractive.

Who works at Anderson Consulting in Cologne (haven't we all wanted to fuck a consultant?)

We meet for dinner. We "click", agree on 300 for the night. We go to the club. We fuck, she fucks other dudes, I fuck other girls (some hot, some not, lights are low, who cares).

I'm going to hell.

Happy.

HC.

I just needed to share.

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Gents,

If you guys want to discuss traveling to international destinations to get laid, why don't you visit my International Sex Guide forum at:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info

Thanks,

Jackson

**BigTigger** · 05-04-13 01:22

So the 6 hour planned date with MsIntellectualBeauty turned into a 2 hour sit in the car and listen to her talk incessantly. She is completely new to this and has no frame of reference. She wants to move slow so that chemistry is built and the relationship can last. Now she wants to be seen like a lady and does not want to rush and seem easy.

This one has issues and cannot really see what she is getting into. So I am going to follow the model others have set and have patience, move at her pace. I will keep the donations very low as right now there is no affection or affirmation. This will drive me crazy, but I have others to keep me entertained.

I got two hits off CL today. Married 45 year old AA with a smoking body. Face is a 6 .5 . She is looking for attention and a good screwing. Meeting her on Sunday for meet and greet. Second is a nurse who's face is probably a 6, but the body is a 10. She lives alone and we will meet early next week.

BigTigg

**Donwhite** · 05-03-13 23:07

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Don,

Like the success stories. But tell us more. Share some of your challenges and frustrations.

How did you get to this point of fucking a Tilted Kilt girl for a 100.

Tell us about bringing them in from another state or flying them in. I would love to hear about the do's and don't s on that one. How do you pick those? How do you set it up? What do we need to watch out for?

Keep it coming brother.

Revvo

Well, it helps that I'm 29 and a bachelor, but I also look younger. My tilted kilt baby thought I was 23-25 so that works in my favor quite a bit. Talking about bringing them in from another state is quite time consuming and I'll try to comment on that later. BTW I have had a few members private message me wanting contact info / more information about my tilted kilt baby and I am not interested in sharing her with other sds. So please don't message me about wanting to contact or meet her.

**HollywoodGuy** · 05-03-13 22:56

Paraphrased to eliminate boredom. 20 year old AA spinner looks 5'4" about 110+. So not teeny tiny but close enough. Guaranteed non pro.

ME. I pay $ per date to get to know you maybe fool around a little.

HER. I'm new to this site and I haven't gotten many messages but your offer sounds really good. Honestly though I'm not looking to have sex for money at all. The most I would be willing to do is like oral sex.

ME. Sounds fair (sent copy of recent std test)

HER. I'm glad your clean because I don't have any stds and I don't plan on getting anything! That's my worst fear is getting an std LOL. I've only had one sexual partner ever.

**Member #4103** · 05-03-13 22:44

Same profile as before.

"FYI I love bison burgers they're very healthy!

I am an animal lover to the fullest! Except I'm not against wearing or eating them"

Yes you are, sugar baby animal lover, yes you are.

These three sentences, unedited, back to back.

Awesome.

HC

**Member #4103** · 05-03-13 22:38

Love reading profiles. The randomness. Some of these women are truly exceptional. Some. Well.

Saw this tonight. From a hottie in NYC."I also enjoy camping, hiking, hunting / skee ball, and archery"

Can anyone clue me in on WTF hunting has to do with skee ball? I'm not making this up. Check out profile 1327296.

Perhaps I'm missing some lingo.

**Member #4103** · 05-03-13 22:20

And all why'all are going to call bullshit, but I swear on the holy bowl'o'sugar its true. And I haven't told anyone. And its killin me.

So I'm in insurance, go to Europe for big company meetings a few times a year. Being the ginormous perv I am, I've been to every FKK club known to man, and a few trips ago went to this swingers club that lets a few single dudes in. Had a great time banging frauleins while their husbands watched. Its their thing. Who am I to judge.

So a few weeks ago I'm heading over, fire up SA, search Dusseldorf and send out a perfect torpedo spread (Sub Cmdr would be proud) of perfectly blunt "I want to meet, take you to dinner, and if we "click" take you to a swingers club" messages. I'm guessing my chance of success is about 1.

I get a response.

From a hot, blond, blue eyed german girl. Seriously. Very attractive.

Who works at Anderson Consulting in Cologne (haven't we all wanted to fuck a consultant?)

We meet for dinner. We "click", agree on 300 for the night. We go to the club. We fuck, she fucks other dudes, I fuck other girls (some hot, some not, lights are low, who cares).

I'm going to hell.

Happy.

HC.

I just needed to share.