"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[John G Smith]

On a positive side, If you rent a rolling hotel room, at least it will be sterile and not have your personal papers in there anywhere. And you can stock it with refreshments, condoms, sex toys, and other paraphernalia necessary for the sex trade, and would keep them out of your car trunk, gym locker, or other places that could trip you up.

This is a pretty good suggestion! I've been also thinking about similar options like others here. Problem with a lease for an apartment, the credit check will show up on your credit report and usually they'll require deposits of the first and last month. You'll also need to pay utilities and possibly buy some basic furnishing. And then the SB also has a physical location to tie your real identity to. And if you decide to keep a full-time SB in your apartment, you'll have eviction and guest issues that Hernando experienced.

I just did a quick search, and quite a few 2 star hotels offer weekly and monthly rates. I found some motel 6's near my area for $42 a night over a month, $50 a night over a week. That comes to about $350 a week or $1200-1300 a month but that includes utilities and house-keeping. No credit checks. And you're not locked into a long-term lease. Also I bet if you called up a mom & pop motel you might be able to get a more competitive weekly or monthly rate. If I could find a place that would rent a room for $1000 a month or 250 a week, I might experiment with this for a month at some point. As Hernando said, aside from having a dedicated FC it's useful for storing your sex and sugar paraphernalia. The only downside is that my current SB is 90 miles away, so having a local rental FC would be mostly useless to me at the moment.

[Zomby]

I'm thinking of purchasing a rental FC on a lease. I'm talking about an apartment not a hotel. Anyone know what to be cautious of to avoid having it tie back to you on public records or your credit report? My list so far is:

1. Utilities under someone else's name.

2. Obviously no personal mail to that address.

I'm not sure if a lease agreement by itself goes into public record but I doubt it would. Am I missing anything else?

Just like a hotel room, I don't think anyone is going to rent you property, at least not a property you'd want to rent, without ID, a credit check and a background check. Credit checks can show up on your credit report, so be aware of that.

What you could try is one of those extended stay hotels, though; the per night cost for those is lower than most hotels, and they usually have kitchen facilities and sometimes more than one room.

/z

[Hernando]

Thanks guys for your comments re:my addiction / compulsion. I love it too much to give it up! Didn't you know that SA got it's name from "Sex Addicts "?

So, I tried the rental unit in a different way. I put a SB in an investment place I own in dog town expecting to visit her twice / week. We mapped out the expectations in detail, obviously not on paper. Rent I charge for the 2 BR house is $800 / month, so I figured CPO (one Orgasm / visit) at$ 92. 30. Not bad right?

Well, the reality was I had sex 0 times in the 6 mos it took to get her out of there. She came up with excuses at first which were believable ish, then I found out she had moved in with the recently paroled BF. Of course I was vulnerable to her potential attacks and she threatened me with exposure. I finally said "fuck it " and shut the water and power off. Now I'm getting $800 / mo to apply to my hobby.

Don't do it! I know renting a room makes economic sense but there is a paper trail and you ultimately are at the mercy of a potential felon. That was in my Nando 1 days, which I will never seek again, no matter how horny I get.

On a positive side, If you rent a rolling hotel room, at least it will be sterile and not have your personal papers in there anywhere. And you can stock it with refreshments, condoms, sex toys, and other paraphernalia necessary for the sex trade, and would keep them out of your car trunk, gym locker, or other places that could trip you up.

[Dog Rice]

I thought about going to rental option (basically having my own "fuck-apt"). But the cost (I am in San Diego) and the logistic do not make sense. Cost-wise, is more expensive in SD for rental than mid-class hotel (50-60 / night ones). Logistic-wise, too much paper trail and no good for me (I am married and want to keep it that way)

I tried to go to hotel for FC, and it is a hazard. (Checking price / location, credit card trail, . Etc). I am looking for SBs who they can host now, but this limits my pool significantly. .

I've thought of this as well. Compared to hotel rooms several times a month, this could be a cheaper, and nicer option. I'm interested in the collective wisdon on this.

Scott

[Pats Fan1]

Well Said. I completely agree.

"Hi. My name is BigTigger and I'm an addict".

I couldn't help it. I started literally laughing out loud.

About 2 months ago I was driving home thinking to myself what the hell is wrong with me? Now I know, thanks to all of you for all of your help!

[F Scott]

I'm thinking of purchasing a rental FC on a lease. I'm talking about an apartment not a hotel. Anyone know what to be cautious of to avoid having it tie back to you on public records or your credit report? My list so far is:

1. Utilities under someone else's name.

2. Obviously no personal mail to that address.

I'm not sure if a lease agreement by itself goes into public record but I doubt it would. Am I missing anything else?

I've thought of this as well. Compared to hotel rooms several times a month, this could be a cheaper, and nicer option. I'm interested in the collective wisdon on this.

Scott

[FredMoore]

Animal House, a classic American guide to understanding male behavior. Hoo Rah I say!

So those upstanding young men did not pay a cent for their Babies. So howw Do WE do it? Appeal to their sense of Motherhood and apple pie? To their duty to go forth and multiply. To assure that the protectors and progenitors of our Nation, yea our World, are well supported in our quest to protect and serve? Or all of the above? I feel a new profile "about me " taking shape We don't need money my men, we need America!

America Daddy for Me (About me) : An American Patriot looking for a dedicated woman who desires protection, respect, and household security. A man who has your back (and front) , who will keep your world safe from desperate men who would attempt to lure you to their bedchambers with money. Heaven forbid that heinous animal who thinks money can solve the world's problems. No! Just say NO! And write me right now. I WILL protect you and take care of those needs that only a Patriot knows you need taking care of. God Bless America My number is UP.

[Pats Fan1]

Having just spent the entire day holed up in a hotel with a Shiny New Baby yesterday, I agree that once you have fucked a twenty-something or two, there is no going back. This gorgeous baby's skin was flawless, and her body is close to perfect. Why in the world would any sane man want to settle for anything less, given the fact that he has, as you say, access to the fresh poontang? Since I started playing in the Bowl, I've fucked babies hotter than I would ever have had the courage to approach when I was their age! It continually amazes me that this world exists, and that there seems to be an unending supply of new babies every day! What a world!

Scheduled for an overnight with SNB on Thursday at another chic hotel (Hotels. Com is my new best friend) , and a romp with a tall, artistic redhead at her place (hooray for me) on Wednesday. Life is good.

Scott

You may like hotelguides dot com as well. The big difference is with this one you don't pay up front. You reserve and pay when you arrive. Usually you can cancel up to 24hrs before with no charge. So if plans fall through with SB you are not as stuck. Now you just have a hard on problem not a loss of money problem too.

[FredMoore]

I don't think it's an addiction, per se; more of a compulsion.

I am compelled my brothers! My mission in life is to spread my seed far and wide! It is staggering how many of these HCBs (and all the rest of womanhood) are willing to sell themselves and their assets to the highest, or at least, the least unattractive highest bidder. The prize goes to the man with the most gelt.

Speaking of which, my HCB ATF SB is progressing nicely. Money is not front and center with her and she looks at me as a BF, wanting to introduce me to her circle of friends. This is good and bad. Since her FC is 90 miles away from ground zero I feel that it is unlikely that her circle will intersect with mine. But one never knows. This is that adrenaline surge that tweaks our nerves a little bit and makes the fucking later that much sweeter. I introduced her to a thundering orgasm last visit and discovered a few of her sweet spots to explore more this week. She might need a little spanking, so I will test the water there.

My former Ex regular HCB is still in the game. She likes my company even though she does not seem to be into sex, or sexually into me anyway. I approached her as a GF / BF option since I had to back off from a regular allowance and my new ATF is more sexually enjoyable. She tolerates sex so any load in a baby's pussy is good.

[PartyTimeGuy]

Here is the latest. A pretty damn good week.

REVVOATF, My little raven haired MILF is going strong. She is such a pleasant breath of fresh air. We can only meet about once a week. Two at the most. But when we do it is heaven. She is completely available to me. When we are together. She has a busy life with a small child, no father in the picture. Does get support. And has a job but is in debt and hurting for money. I honestly feel bad for her. And she is not asking me for extra cash. And I want to help. But I do not want to set a precedent. This baby has lived on the top before her divorce so she knows what it is like. But she makes do. Maybe I will give her a little something extra just to help her out. Don't know yet. Sexy and gorgeous. I will rate her as a 9 head 8 body, and 10 attitude. It is amazing to say but she treats me so well. She can't keep her hands off of me. I am startled sometimes by it. She has said things to me nice things sexy things, that I have never heard from my wife in over 17 years of marriage. What kind of a fucking world do we live in guys? That this is how things are. If I could spend all of my time with her I would. But I live in another city and we have separate lives. So I have more babies to help out with the other days. I honestly was only trying to round out a list of baby's I could call on for back up. Or to have a bench but it has blossomed.

REVVOSB2, My little asian fortune cookie. Sweet as can be. Eager to please and never shy about getting down to business. She is looking for ways to fuck me that I have not done yet. We are working on a list. She is only in town every other week because of her job. She works for one of the pharmaceutical firms and travels to NY. I am going to see her on Monday for our next visit. She wants to meet right after she gets off the plane so we can get to it. Since she will have to pick up her son later in the day. So get down we will. She is a little hard to raise on text. But when she is on she is very responsive. Milfs with kids and job, are a lot more busy, part of the package. I will have a better report on her later this week. But all systems are go. She did a lot of modeling in her younger years she is 26yo 9 head 8 body, and 0 attitude. So I want to get some more of her professional pics.

REVVOPOT1, This baby is divorced and 28 YO white from somewhere in the Mediterranean. Lives in the same city as ATF. Absolutely gorgeous. I swear I am not that picky but I have a bench of all hotties right now. She is a 10 head 10 body, and about 7. 5 on attitude so far. But I learned something about her and others like her. You cannot be too good to them. It will ruin them if they stick around, but many times they will bolt if you are too good also. Got to be cocky and throw a little attitude back at her and accept no bad behavior. But not too much attitude. It is a balancing act. She sent me a picture with just her bra and panties, and pumps on. Shot from behind. She is standing on a balcony looking out. It almost brought a tear to my eye it was so perfect. This ass was fucking awesome. And she has that natural gap between her legs with the light from the outdoors shining through it. OMG I almost died. Anyway still working on her. But she is ready to meet and is good with a very fair price, $$ for a 10 I will be in heaven if I tap this.

REVVOPOT2, Another one that fell into my lap. Very new to the sugar bowl. 20 YO Latina, fine fine fine, and she is the worst looking of the four! I would rate her at a 8 head 8 body, and 7 attitude. Just because I am not sure of her yet. But I think she can be developed into some first string talent. We are set to meet on Monday. Strategy wise I have been trying to make contact with the new ones early on like Hollywood recommends. Then if they strike an attitude I just let them spend a couple of weeks trying to wade through the male debris that is in the sugar bowl. Then come back to them and see if they want to give it a try again. I did this with both of these POTs. And it seems to be working. They kind of understand how tough it can be out there. She is a college student very intelligent and has a very sexy body. Says she is open minded. Well I am going to open her mind some more and everything else. He he he. All kidding aside one of the things I have been told by all of these babies is that they get really creeped out by a lot of these men in and out of the sugar bowl and it really turns them off. I ask them about it and it is hard for them to explain. But the one thing I have noticed is that it seems like so many of these guys are just trying to get something from them. And the men are so needy. And the babies sense it. And they hate it.

Anyway that is where I am at for now. More reports to come. This should be a very busy week. Wifey is still kind of checking up on me. But I am following the advice on here and flying so low that my wheels are skimming off of the treetops. She is buying it. But she is still watching me.

Be careful out there,

Revvo

Seems like you got it going on. IMHO the attitude and skill or its potential of a SB trumps looks as long as there is some reasonable amount of attraction. 10s are nice but they usually come with a tude that the world owes them something. But if you can get looks, skills and attitude all together in one package then you hit the SB trifecta.

[Robespiere]

I don't think it's an addiction, per se; more of a compulsion. A natural compulsion, wherein our animal instincts demand we spread our seed as far and wide as possible, to strengthen our bloodline and have the highest chance of survivable offspring and, eventually, world domination. Of course I've been accused of being full of shit before.

"World domination". Yeah man. That's it. It almost sounds patriotic. Damn straight, I am a loyal American, therefore I monger. Great logic! There was a famous case when some amateur mongers were taken to trial over some of their antics, and this is how they handled it. I think we can all learn something from this. Here is the clip: Take special notice around 1:00 minutes into the trial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROxvT8KKdFw

[TreasureHunter]

I couldn't agree more. I'm a single man and I can't see myself getting married now. This game has spoiled me to the utmost. I love every part of it the from the chase to the kill!

[Wnde8]

I'm thinking of purchasing a rental FC on a lease. I'm talking about an apartment not a hotel. Anyone know what to be cautious of to avoid having it tie back to you on public records or your credit report? My list so far is:

1. Utilities under someone else's name.

2. Obviously no personal mail to that address.

I'm not sure if a lease agreement by itself goes into public record but I doubt it would. Am I missing anything else?

[West Central]

You hit the nail on the head my friend, it is an addiction.

I don't think it's an addiction, per se; more of a compulsion. A natural compulsion, wherein our animal instincts demand we spread our seed as far and wide as possible, to strengthen our bloodline and have the highest chance of survivable offspring and, eventually, world domination. Of course I've been accused of being full of shit before.

[West Central]

1. Fuck the wife with the same frequency in the same old way.

I don't have this problem anymore, but it was damn difficult when I did."Pace yourself" is my only advice there.

3. Our electronic media is our undoing.

Quite true, and it even goes back to the "paper trail" from before email and cell phones. Pay cash for everything hobby- or sugar-related. Discard receipts safely. Don't keep phone cards or slips of paper in your wallet or coat pocket. Establish a cleansing routine, and don't stray from it.

In short, don't fuck up.