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  1. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Wnde8  [View Original Post]
    Damn, I'm getting burned by SugarDaddyForMe right now. I cancelled on the 1st day of a 3 day trial (just wanted to check what was out there) but they billed me anyways. I've sent them 2 messages through their account cancellation messaging system and no responses. The line item on my credit card reads "JAGODA ASSOC SD4ME. 866-9209606"

    At least I have their phone number now. I'll call them and threaten a chargeback now. Be careful with this site guys, I wish I heard the advice about using virtual card numbers earlier.
    Acultually, I am current ripping off SD4M. I signed up for a free month trial with total access using a prepaid visa card that has less than $10 on it. And am now on my second month, and I keep getting the notice that my card had been declined. But I am still having access. So 2 free months of totatl access.

    Should give that a try.

    Sorry to hear this. But it really is old news. Many guys had problem cancelling from that site.

  2. #208

    Hi I'm interested

    Trying in SD4M but no appointments yet, I'm interested in the girl that you talk. 100 right FS and anal sound great, I can give you information about a MILF name COULTAS, I only text her, she said 100 poer visit, sex and FS, but never tryed because she is to far away for me. If you share the info Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by LimaBeansStink  [View Original Post]
    I have a SB who is looking for action. $100 and she does anal too. Contact me if interested. It would be great if you had something too, but not necessary.

  3. #207

    SDFM ripping me off

    Damn, I'm getting burned by SugarDaddyForMe right now. I cancelled on the 1st day of a 3 day trial (just wanted to check what was out there) but they billed me anyways. I've sent them 2 messages through their account cancellation messaging system and no responses. The line item on my credit card reads "JAGODA ASSOC SD4ME. 866-9209606"

    At least I have their phone number now. I'll call them and threaten a chargeback now. Be careful with this site guys, I wish I heard the advice about using virtual card numbers earlier.

  4. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Spongee62  [View Original Post]
    I am thinking about joining but if I may ask, I see a lot of girls with last activity, over two weeks. Do you get responses typically from that scenario? I am thinking about the total access feature. Thank you in advance.
    Go for it. It beats jerkin off.

  5. #205

    SB looking for action

    I have a SB who is looking for action. $100 and she does anal too. Contact me if interested. It would be great if you had something too, but not necessary.

  6. #204
    Quote Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO  [View Original Post]
    You make $20k a month? What the fuck do you do? I want to do whatever it is you do if it brings in half of what you make.
    If you sell those million dollars home in the Hollywood area, maybe you can make that much.

  7. #203

    A Question If I May Regarding SD4ME

    I am thinking about joining but if I may ask, I see a lot of girls with last activity, over two weeks. Do you get responses typically from that scenario? I am thinking about the total access feature. Thank you in advance.

  8. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    My current average is $500 a month per girl. 4 different regular girls + a few interviews. I have sex on at least 20 to 25 days of the month. So about $100 a visit overall. Many are multiple hours or overnites (and 1 lives here). I am trying to stick to 2k a month total for now or about 10% of my pretax income. Over budget this month. If it wasnt for my kid and x wife I would double that amount for sure.

    Last 3 years averaged about 5k a month. Prior to that I was crazy.
    You make $20k a month? What the fuck do you do? I want to do whatever it is you do if it brings in half of what you make.

  9. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by FunTrust  [View Original Post]
    I think you guys who are into it should show this to the girls, to get their thoughts. It would be fun- would get a lot of 5 k girls to 1k per month.
    My current average is $500 a month per girl. 4 different regular girls + a few interviews. I have sex on at least 20 to 25 days of the month. So about $100 a visit overall. Many are multiple hours or overnites (and 1 lives here). I am trying to stick to 2k a month total for now or about 10% of my pretax income. Over budget this month. If it wasnt for my kid and x wife I would double that amount for sure.

    Last 3 years averaged about 5k a month. Prior to that I was crazy.

  10. #200

    Tax and Income

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Here is part two of one the best series of articles I have seen written on allowance:

    "Allowance in Real Dollar Terms

    Allowance is one of the most popular topics in the sugar world and there is no shortage of opinion about it. Instead of passing judgment on what's fair and reasonable for what's offered or expected, I'd like to examine what it means to have an allowance in real dollar terms. This will take into account real world factors such as taxes and discretionary income and compare that to established benchmarks.

    For example, according to the US Census Bureau, annual median household income in the US is $49k, top 5% starts at $157k, and top 1. 5% starts at $250k. Keep these numbers in mind as we look at allowance expectations in real dollars terms by taking into account taxes and SD's discretionary income.

    On seekingarrangement. Com a SB can indicate the amount of expected allowance in her profile. Let's look at what it means to have $1k, $3k, $5k, and $10k per month. And for illustration purpose let's assume a tax rate of 35% since SD's should be high income individuals.

    $1k / month. $12k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $17k before tax.

    $3k / month. $36k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $51k before tax. Note this is already higher than the median household income.

    $5k / month. $60k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $86k before tax. Note this is more than one and a half times of the median, or more than half the amount of what the top 5% makes.

    $10k / month. $120k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $171k before tax. Note this will put you in the top 5% of all US households.

    Now that we have put those numbers in perspective, let's realistically think about what are the chances of finding SD's who can provide that kind of allowance as part of their discretionary income. For illustration purpose, let's assume a SD has 20% of his gross income available to spend on a SB. This means the SD should have an income of five times the amount he provides to the SB. Keep in mind this is his total spending on a SB, for which the allowance may only be a part of. This percentage may vary based on each SD's situation such as whether he's single or married.

    $1k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $85k per year, this is already way above the median income.

    $3k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $255k per year, this is already in the top 1. 5.

    $5k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $430k per year.

    $10k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $855k per year.

    The analysis shown was for illustration purpose only. One can use different assumptions about tax rates and discretionary income to come up with different figures. But realistically, how many wealthy men can we expect from the top 1% to sign up on one of these web sites and are serious about being a SD and part with their money? Think about what kind of work or business the SD should be in to make that kind of money, where they're located, their age and marital status, and what kind of SB they'd be looking for. Will the top 1% of SD's look for an "average" SB, or would they look for the top 1% in SB's as well? What kind of a "real" job would a SB have to get in order to make the equivalent of the allowance she is seeking?

    I'm not passing judgment on what people are looking for or what they expect, and I know there are success stories across the spectrum. I'm just applying a straight forward analysis to help those in the sugar world to have a realistic view.". SD Guru.

    I don't do allowances. I prefer a event driven arrangement. It has worked out well for me. Hope the article provides some insights.

    SubCmdr out!
    I think you guys who are into it should show this to the girls, to get their thoughts. It would be fun- would get a lot of 5 k girls to 1k per month.

  11. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by LimaBeansStink  [View Original Post]
    I agree that the going rate is about $100 per event, although I have one down to $75 per. I've been impressed with the results on SD4ME. The women are young and it's like fucking a GF. I just had a great time on Sat with my new SB. We hung out for a couple of hours and she was ok with just getting her ass fucked. I mean the whole session, just Greek. It was awesome. She sent me a message asking when we were going to do that again? I'm tempted to move her in. Wonder what SO would say? LOL.

    I agree with previous poster, if the rate is higher than $100, move on. You can find nice, young, and attractive women for $100 or less. Just keep sending out emails.
    I think there was a lot of media hype and also some real spending during the go go years (5 to 10 years ago). Also just a lot of girls that are just dreaming, and you see them sign up to the site and then disappear within a week. I won't tell you what I was spending back then because its about as much as I earn now. But I usually did stay within the 20% or so range. And I think that is a fiscally safe place to be.

    The whole REAL SB game is to find a girl that needs help (through no character defect or drug addiction or laziness) and appreciates the help, is truly attracted to you, is trying to better themselves on their own either through work or school, has a natural attraction to older men and is looking for an exclusive relationship (even knowing you are not in one). They want to be mentored, realize their true sexual potential and feel protected.

    They are not ho's. A ho takes money from any guy no exclusions and has as many guys as possible. And we are not even discussing the gold diggers and players.

    In short, there are some grey areas. And different people have different comfort zones, available time, emotional needs, etc.

    This is a developing area and not as well defined as BP, HX, RB, etc. All that being said. It's awesome in my book.

  12. #198

    Allowance

    I agree that the going rate is about $100 per event, although I have one down to $75 per. I've been impressed with the results on SD4ME. The women are young and it's like fucking a GF. I just had a great time on Sat with my new SB. We hung out for a couple of hours and she was ok with just getting her ass fucked. I mean the whole session, just Greek. It was awesome. She sent me a message asking when we were going to do that again? I'm tempted to move her in. Wonder what SO would say? LOL.

    I agree with previous poster, if the rate is higher than $100, move on. You can find nice, young, and attractive women for $100 or less. Just keep sending out emails.

  13. #197

    Other view on Allowance

    Quote Originally Posted by Blak Casper  [View Original Post]
    This is like lying on a resume. They all will claim to have had some SD who was paying rent and all other expenses.

    The story I get is that the guy who was paying big always moved away!
    Here is part two of one the best series of articles I have seen written on allowance:

    "Allowance in Real Dollar Terms

    Allowance is one of the most popular topics in the sugar world and there is no shortage of opinion about it. Instead of passing judgment on what's fair and reasonable for what's offered or expected, I'd like to examine what it means to have an allowance in real dollar terms. This will take into account real world factors such as taxes and discretionary income and compare that to established benchmarks.

    For example, according to the US Census Bureau, annual median household income in the US is $49k, top 5% starts at $157k, and top 1. 5% starts at $250k. Keep these numbers in mind as we look at allowance expectations in real dollars terms by taking into account taxes and SD's discretionary income.

    On seekingarrangement. Com a SB can indicate the amount of expected allowance in her profile. Let's look at what it means to have $1k, $3k, $5k, and $10k per month. And for illustration purpose let's assume a tax rate of 35% since SD's should be high income individuals.

    $1k / month. $12k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $17k before tax.

    $3k / month. $36k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $51k before tax. Note this is already higher than the median household income.

    $5k / month. $60k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $86k before tax. Note this is more than one and a half times of the median, or more than half the amount of what the top 5% makes.

    $10k / month. $120k per year after tax or the equivalent of about $171k before tax. Note this will put you in the top 5% of all US households.

    Now that we have put those numbers in perspective, let's realistically think about what are the chances of finding SD's who can provide that kind of allowance as part of their discretionary income. For illustration purpose, let's assume a SD has 20% of his gross income available to spend on a SB. This means the SD should have an income of five times the amount he provides to the SB. Keep in mind this is his total spending on a SB, for which the allowance may only be a part of. This percentage may vary based on each SD's situation such as whether he's single or married.

    $1k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $85k per year, this is already way above the median income.

    $3k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $255k per year, this is already in the top 1. 5.

    $5k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $430k per year.

    $10k / month. The SD would need to have a gross income of $855k per year.

    The analysis shown was for illustration purpose only. One can use different assumptions about tax rates and discretionary income to come up with different figures. But realistically, how many wealthy men can we expect from the top 1% to sign up on one of these web sites and are serious about being a SD and part with their money? Think about what kind of work or business the SD should be in to make that kind of money, where they're located, their age and marital status, and what kind of SB they'd be looking for. Will the top 1% of SD's look for an "average" SB, or would they look for the top 1% in SB's as well? What kind of a "real" job would a SB have to get in order to make the equivalent of the allowance she is seeking?

    I'm not passing judgment on what people are looking for or what they expect, and I know there are success stories across the spectrum. I'm just applying a straight forward analysis to help those in the sugar world to have a realistic view.". SD Guru.

    I don't do allowances. I prefer a event driven arrangement. It has worked out well for me. Hope the article provides some insights.

    SubCmdr out!

  14. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    Go for the younger ones. All they ever got was bullshit, bad sex and them spending their money on their broke and equally young x boyfriend. Any girl that says she had a SD that was awesome I don't even talk to those types. And a lot of times that awesomeness only lasted a 1 to 3 months
    I have always wondered, if there previous SD's were so great and giving them their rent, a car and the moon, then why they hell aren't they doing it anymore. Makes me think that there must be something wrong with the SB that would necessitate the return to the hunt. Just my 2 cents.

  15. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by Blak Casper  [View Original Post]
    This is like lying on a resume. They all will claim to have had some SD who was paying rent and all other expenses.

    The story I get is that the guy who was paying big always moved away!
    Go for the younger ones. All they ever got was bullshit, bad sex and them spending their money on their broke and equally young x boyfriend. Any girl that says she had a SD that was awesome I don't even talk to those types. And a lot of times that awesomeness only lasted a 1 to 3 months

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