"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**SubCmdr** · 03-27-13 13:19

Originally Posted by RichmondDude [View Original Post]

Well I paid join SA, other day, puttin I'm some work, I usually play on other threads, but after reading some of these post, figured I'd try it for a month or 2. I have had a few UTR types, which were good, and one who kept around for yrs. Well I'm set to meet my 1st SB this wk end, you were right they rather text than anything, we both got a little idea of whats going to happen, she is 27 very nice looking. So I will see. In the mean time ima keep looking.

Mr. RichmondDude,

Welcome to the sugar world. We love to hear reports of success, failure, old techniques that work and new ones you develop.

Good Hunting!

Subcmdr out!

**Rob Taylor** · 03-27-13 12:21

I have been trying to devise a plan to seperate the real SB's from UTR's and non pro's posing, because if they are non pro's or UTR's. You have to take extra security precautions if even see them at all. So here is my criteria to determine the difference.

A. Sugar baby criteria is 1. She will want to see a picture 2. She will want to text and email for about a week 3. She will want to meet you in a public place to meet before going to a hotel or home for FC. Now a girl can require this and still not be a SB, but if she doesn't do this you can in fact conclude that she is a non / pro or UTR, because a SB will be worried about safety and or some base line chemistry Now how do you tell if a girl is a non pro. 1. She will want a picture as well. 2 she will want talk and maybe meet in a neutral area (but a non pro will start talking about prices per meet very early and probably will talk in terms of per meet.

And also there is a good chance she will skip the meet and greet and go straight to the FC at your house or hotel.

C. UTR 1. Does not care about a picture. 2. Will talk money and charge on a per hour basis. 3. Will come straight to you.

Without a public meeting.

Obviously the most overlap is between non pro's and SB's, but my rule of thumb is that a a chick who wants a picture and is willingto come over right away and does not charge by the hour is a non pro. In regards to SB's if they ask for things like shopping dinneretc. This means they are probable a real sb, non pro's and UTR's just want money. There maybe more overlap but I find these distinctions work well.

**RichmondDude** · 03-27-13 07:32

Well I paid join SA, other day, puttin I'm some work, I usually play on other threads, but after reading some of these post, figured I'd try it for a month or 2. I have had a few UTR types, which were good, and one who kept around for yrs. Well I'm set to meet my 1st SB this wk end, you were right they rather text than anything, we both got a little idea of whats going to happen, she is 27 very nice looking. So I will see. In the mean time ima keep looking.

**SubCmdr** · 03-26-13 16:55

I would argue that your methods change depending upon the type of garden tool you are dealing with. I like to roll with hard working Nando 1's. Hard working MILF's who have a job, car and bills to pay. Spoiled rich college girls sitting around figuring how much dick they can take to finance their spring break because their real Daddy won't get off the money are not my thing.

1. $100 / visit. Bust as much as you want. Keep your CPO low and fuck two to three times as much!

2. Extras: Oh fuck no! Especially in the beginning. They are getting paid to fuck! They have to put some work in so you can see if you want to spend that kind of time with them. Some of them are so busy they don't want extras. They often want to see you on the regular because don't have time to take splooge from multiple Daddy's like the rich college girls.

3. Be a big baller and throw the cash in the air. Make it rain and have it float down on the bed while you are both still naked. These women want to know you are not trying to get over. After they know you, you can be discreet.

**Hernando** · 03-26-13 16:16

This avocation of ours is very personal and we each have different ways of handling our relationships. I appeared to miss a lot over the past few days I have been away. I have a very similar personality and approach to Scotty, so I can identify with him. That is not to say other approaches are wrong, they're just different.

I love wooing a worthy Baby, and emotionally lock her up. The down side of that is that I get very E involved and mourn the loss of our relationship when it ends, and demand exclusivity while it's going on. It is a harder way to roll and ties up more of your thoughts and time during the days when your apart. At the same time it makes the time together so much more intense. Other more pragmatic approaches, perhaps Sub Commander's, gets the job done with a minimum of emotional baggage, and less sensitivity. Both techniques get the FC filled, and the sperm ducts emptied.

Re : Mike's?

1) $250 / visit.

2) Extras offered at the time, such as dinners, spa visits, gifts, flowers for a total of $50 to 150 / visit.

3) Cash under the soap dish / key dish at her residence or in her purse at a Notel

4) I emphasize my desire for exclusivity on both sides, and expect her not to make it evident to me that that she sees others.

**F Scott** · 03-26-13 16:01

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

Scott, I sort of lost track. Did you ever, ah, enjoy relations with that co-worker who sent you stimulating pix of her tatas, ass and pussy? She was sweet.

My balls were just not big enough to handle that amount of stress and exposure. It was shortly after that when I took a self-imposed hiatus from all Sugar activity, in order to recalibrate my Adreneline Meter. Several situations, including hitting on a tatooed baby at my local Trader Joes, thinking I could fuck my ex-assistant without repercussions, and running into a baby while out with my family at a restaurant led me to realize that I was in love with the risk of where I was at, and the next stop on that train wreck was the End of My Life as I knew it.

After a few months or so of bed-rest, I emerged only to meet Polo, who ushered me back into the Sweet Life with gusto and a great deal of inventiveness. It's all back in the Journal if you are having trouble sleeping some evening.

Back to the co-worker for a moment, she dropped out of the Bowl shortly after sending me those pics, so I assumed some local brother scooped her up, and even now is happily nailing her every other day. I still have my daydreams, tho!

Back to the chase!

Tally ho,

Scott

**Literal2** · 03-26-13 15:41

Scott, I sort of lost track. Did you ever, ah, enjoy relations with that co-worker who sent you stimulating pix of her tatas, ass and pussy? She was sweet.

**Literal2** · 03-26-13 15:38

What happened? I was responding to quarreling, now the quarrel has disappeared! Ah, the magic of sugarbabies. Well done by all!

**Literal2** · 03-26-13 15:36

Lets get back to talking about how sweet those little SB pussies are.

**SubCmdr** · 03-26-13 15:32

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**F Scott** · 03-26-13 13:03

In case some think I am overreacting, based on what is public here, let me assure you our back-channel conversation was much more frank and direct.

Enough,

Scott

**F Scott** · 03-26-13 12:14

Originally Posted by Literal2 [View Original Post]

I for one want to hear more of Scott's stories. He's a good writer with a successful technique. Just what we need on this thread. The fact that others have different techniques and styles usually makes it all the merrier. It would be nice to avoid giving offense when possible. Sub, a string of obscenities usually sounds like an insult to someone. I'd prefer to hear about your successes and how you set them up, and about any failures you care to share with us. Thanks.

I appreciate your words of support.

For the record, I have no problems whatsoever with different approaches, techniques, viewpoints or attitudes. We each need to find what works for us. The civility and comraderie of this particular thread is a marvel, and it has always been here from the start. I do not want to upset that.

My problem with Sub's comments was that they were gratuitous, advanced nothing, and seemed like a direct attack at me and a baby I have admitted to caring for, perhaps a bit too much, but there you have it. There's no other way I could see it, and to some extent you seem to agree. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, he could have thought he was being "funny", I suppose, but as you point out, a string of obscenities sounds more like an insult, and again, advances nothing.

If other brothers see it differently, let me know.

Scott

**Literal2** · 03-26-13 11:29

I for one want to hear more of Scott's stories. He's a good writer with a successful technique. Just what we need on this thread. The fact that others have different techniques and styles usually makes it all the merrier. It would be nice to avoid giving offense when possible. Sub, a string of obscenities usually sounds like an insult to someone. I'd prefer to hear about your successes and how you set them up, and about any failures you care to share with us. Thanks.

**F Scott** · 03-26-13 09:42

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

You remain entitled to your opinion. I also stand by my PM. And furthermore state that I don't need your approval for anything I say in the forum!

"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.". Voltaire.

Subcmdr out!

You can say anything you want, but that right does not come without consequences. I am equally free to say what I think as well. If your view towards this whole world is contained and shaped by the words to the song you cite, I feel sorry for you, and any "garden tool" you happen to run across. I'm not wasting any more time on this shit, or on you.

Scott out!

**F Scott** · 03-26-13 09:18

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

Just my unique perspective on the issue. I feel a lot of good advice about the sugar world is contained in the little John song Play no games. I highly suggest you listen to it. Or you can just google the words online. No offense meant. But obviously a great deal was taken.

SubCmdr out!

I stand by my PM. If you mistakenly thought you were being clever, I can assure you that you were not even close.