Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Delicious Dawn** · 03-11-13 14:59

I do not accept this type of behavior.

If I make a scheduled appointment with you, please have the courtesy of showing up.

Today I scheduled with a gentleman who had good references and checked out.

23 minutes after said appointment time he sends me a text saying that the area was too hot. Apparently he seen a cop a block away. What a bs lame excuse.

I told him that he need not ever contact me again. I do not accept this type of behavior and it isn't tolerated.

I will put his handle name / number on any black listed site and will inform the ladies of any gentleman who plays such games with me.

We take time to schedule appt's. We get sitters (some of us) that we must pay. We turn away other appointments. Only to have someone cancel or not show up. It is frustrating and unacceptable.

I will not ever correspond with anyone who does this. You go into the Do Not Answer log.

Please, everyone, be courteous or do not schedule at all.

Thank you, O,

Dawn

**CoffeeFtw** · 03-10-13 16:35

I hope this post goes in the right area for newbs to say hi.

I was on BestGFE when I was in Jersey, have lived in Cincy area for about 4 years now.

I'm 40, disabled, a part-time hobbyist and have had the pleasure of meeting several gals from DD of D. (B is awesome to deal with on the phone / screening process)

I have met w / Brianna now from R2U, (Very beautiful but also very much aware of it.) and met up with AmR a month back and had a really great time.

I'm pretty much in the know on where to look for what so don't need to bug anyone for this or that, just wanted to say hi and also thanks to the ladies.

Of the Cincy area for being able to look past the wheelchair. Cheers.

PS, I hope the abbreviations aren't a pain to follow. Never sure how much to spell out. Better to be a little obscure IMHO.

**Cinyguy C** · 03-09-13 13:48

Users who post this kind of drama should be put in time out for 60 days from the board.

Originally Posted by Sinful Dreams [View Original Post]

So rumor has it, or rather it has been sent to me that you are sending emails to other hobbyists basically trying to ruin my business. What can't handle your own? I haven't bothered you, haven't said one word about you, because for one I am better than that, and two I don't stoop to highschool bullshit, but on this you went too far as to emailing other hobbyists whom might or might have not seen me. At any rate, your antics won't work, so keep trying. If you only knew so much more is going on, and you aren't "on top" like you claim to be. In fact I used to think highly of you, but A you call me out of my name, and B you now do this stupid shit.

I would like to know if you want to be so honest, how many other hobbyists received this very email.

Re: Plan be.

Can you imagine if leo gets ahold of her cel phone?

Credit card, Work place and personal information on anyone who calls her? WOW!

"I have a program that I put each client into, even if they are a ns / nc that lets me know next time."

Ally.

First of all, IF you would screen like I do, you would know that I use a SITE, not anything on my phone, to look up the info. And that is for MY safety, as tons of other providers use this same site. I am sure you have paid attention to the recent events, so we providers have to be very safe. And if a hobbyist has no references, I do verify his number with who he says he is, as well as work references. Also, I am very cautious about what I do, so I keep a database of said info. But doesn't mean it has YOUR info in it. It has a first name and that is it, and expenses incurred. Maybe before you go copying from forums I have wrote in, maybe you would've asked the question of what exactly I use it for.

I normally wouldn't even explain myself on this subject, but I just find it appalling that you would stoop to this level. But I guess your true colors are starting to shine through. This isn't the first email I have gotten. I can post the other one too, because it seems you have it out for me. I have done nothing to you. The transaction we had was a business transaction, but didn't completely work out the way it was supposed to. It happens. I am not God and I know you definitely aren't, so get off your high horse, and leave my name out of your mouth. This was the other email I got. I didn't post all of it but the last line to keep the one who sent it to me out of it.

Your old news here. Must kill you to see you are no longer the big man on the boards and folks won't take your shit anymore. Stick to ally and the druggie bitches.

Again, you must be showing your true colors, but mine are clearly shining on, and I am and always will be a true and honest person. Can you say the same?

**MollyDaniels** · 03-09-13 11:10

If drugs weren't so intricately tied to this hobby, it would be legal. Which sucks for the ones who don't have an 'early death' habit to feed.

And, if this was legal, us girls would not have to rely so much on provider references. I am usually very good about saving phone #s, but every once in a while I do forget-hell, we are all human. That's why I ask for at least 2 refs, that way if one forgets then hopefully the other ref won't.

What really irks me is providers that I have never even heard of contacting me, and then grilling me for specific details about my client and his sessions. Seriously? I'm not telling you how big his cock is, if he cums quick, if he takes the whole hour, etc. I'm sorry, but I feel my clients do have the right to a little bit of privacy and discretion. Don't get me wrong-if something bad happened with the client, I will be sure to relay that info.

**HelpMeRhonda** · 03-09-13 09:02

Originally Posted by EnvyMe [View Original Post]

I read so much through the boards where different people want to sit behind their computers and try speak that majority all providers are on some sort of drugs or another. I myself am not and do not do what I do for drugs. I do what I'd do because I enjoy it and because I have bills and a home to keep up with monthly as well. While I do what I do as a hobby I'm also looking for a job in search whether it be fulltime or just part time.

Also just a reminder and friendly key of advice for some providers in the hobby. I like to be on safe side when referencing my clients as I'm sure the rest of the providers would. I find it odd though on majority when I contact a few providers to reference through and all they can say is they do not remember if they know the client or number or not. I do not know if you choose to be that way because you feel you are loosing business or if its because you really do not. However key of advice is if you want to continue to be on safe side and help other providers be safe then START remembering clients and keeping track of names and numbers because I surely do. I also do not have a problem to ever be of help verifying a client because I do understand clients want to experience different providers, that is their right. Its not on me to choose not to verify out of being mad I would loose business. I give that respect to all providers so I would expect the same in return. I have heard numerous times from different people providers are complaining of their clients seeing certain people and not them. Grow up its a hobby business and clients can see whom they want it is their decision not ours to make for them or try stop them. All that will cause is for those providers doing just that to loose business being that way.

Hon, I know it is very frustrating to see comments about providers being on drugs and doing what we do for drugs, yes some of us do what we do because we not only enjoy it, but hey it pays the bills, I for one am not on any drugs either but the comments are easily ignored, I know as well as my friends I have met along the way know I am no dope addict, so the comments mean nothing to me.

I get the frustration on references also, as I have ranted as well as other providers that do provide ref have also on this same topic. I won't name names on the girls that don't give ref in fear of losing "their" client, not my style but the guys know, and in the long run it hurts them more than it does anyone else. I know the ladies that do provide ref and have no fear, they know variety can be what some men are looking for, others may want one female they can relate to and feel comfortable with, to each their own. I always provide ref, always have and never had a problem with it, remember hon not all females in this business are secure enough with themselves nor their business to know giving a ref isn't going to destroy them if they are doing things right, its about being safe and ref help keep not only us but the men safe as well. Everyone needs to remember that!

As always stay safe and keep it fun,

Rhonda

**EnvyMe** · 03-09-13 01:02

I read so much through the boards where different people want to sit behind their computers and try speak that majority all providers are on some sort of drugs or another. I myself am not and do not do what I do for drugs. I do what I'd do because I enjoy it and because I have bills and a home to keep up with monthly as well. While I do what I do as a hobby I'm also looking for a job in search whether it be fulltime or just part time.

Also just a reminder and friendly key of advice for some providers in the hobby. I like to be on safe side when referencing my clients as I'm sure the rest of the providers would. I find it odd though on majority when I contact a few providers to reference through and all they can say is they do not remember if they know the client or number or not. I do not know if you choose to be that way because you feel you are loosing business or if its because you really do not. However key of advice is if you want to continue to be on safe side and help other providers be safe then START remembering clients and keeping track of names and numbers because I surely do. I also do not have a problem to ever be of help verifying a client because I do understand clients want to experience different providers, that is their right. Its not on me to choose not to verify out of being mad I would loose business. I give that respect to all providers so I would expect the same in return. I have heard numerous times from different people providers are complaining of their clients seeing certain people and not them. Grow up its a hobby business and clients can see whom they want it is their decision not ours to make for them or try stop them. All that will cause is for those providers doing just that to loose business being that way.

**Zomby** · 02-20-13 19:13

Originally Posted by MollyDaniels [View Original Post]

SNOWBUNNY.

Hot white girls who like black guys.

A female prostitute addicted to snorting cocaine.

And various other derogatory definitions. CRAP! I feel like an idiot-haha-laugh at me.

Anyway, luckily some nice hobbyiest on the east coast pointed out the definition for me.

Well, it made me snicker a little. I can remember in the '80s, some black men referring to hot white girls as "snow", if not with the rodent appellation.

/z

**Anderson74** · 02-20-13 18:49

Originally Posted by MollyDaniels [View Original Post]

So, seriously, I think I really need to read the urban dictionary (

www.urbandictionary.com

) from start to finish.

As you may know, I am a snowboarder, and I have been using the term 'snowbunny' quite frequently to describe myself. I even got a little jealous when I saw other girls using it. But, anyway, ladies and gents, here's the word of the day.

SNOWBUNNY.

Hot white girls who like black guys.

A female prostitute addicted to snorting cocaine.

I can see the second one. But the first? I don't see how that correlates to snow bunny. Usually I can make sense of Urban Dictionary, but that one's a bit off to me.

**MollyDaniels** · 02-20-13 13:39

The kicker was the pm that I got asking me if I only saw african american men (before I learned the definition of 'snowbunny') or white men as well.

I was like, WTH? I don't post that I don't see black men, but I was wondering why they would think I ONLY saw black men.

Yeah, it was hilarious-I am the first one to laugh at me haha.

Just goes to show you that you can learn a bunch of never-needed information from this hobby haha. Like when I was asked about watersports, and I replied, yeah, I like water-skiing!

**MollyDaniels** · 02-19-13 16:09

So, seriously, I think I really need to read the urban dictionary (www.urbandictionary.com) from start to finish.

As you may know, I am a snowboarder, and I have been using the term 'snowbunny' quite frequently to describe myself. I even got a little jealous when I saw other girls using it. But, anyway, ladies and gents, here's the word of the day.

.SNOWBUNNY.

Hot white girls who like black guys.

A female prostitute addicted to snorting cocaine.

And various other derogatory definitions. CRAP! I feel like an idiot-haha-laugh at me.

Anyway, luckily some nice hobbyiest on the east coast pointed out the definition for me.

Hope this gives someone a laugh today.

Kisses,

Molly Mae

**Member #4335** · 02-08-13 02:22

Originally Posted by MollyDaniels [View Original Post]

UGH! I am so sick and tired of all the drug addicts that do not check references nor return my requests for checks.

With a sexual predator on the loose, why do these girls not respond / act like they don't know what I'm talking about?

Are there any providers that keep track and provide references? I know that Silk, Chrissee, and Ally do, but is there anyone else? Please help me out girls.

I don't know about everyone, but there has to be more than just me, I'm licensed a few yrs but in salon, advertised only this yr so a lot is new to me. The very first month I took BP or CL list clients a lot of them would text me saying hello here are my references, plse check them quickly as I'd like to get in. I was really nervous calling an texting any of these girls, I didn't even kno what I was cross checking? Also as soon as my reviews hit, I got a ton of really nasty texts an emails calling me names. So the last thing I wanted to do was call some of those same girls an ask anything! So I didn't. I just followed a strict thing given to me from clients who are educated personally on what a cop has to get you to do or say " not that I needed it, I don't do anything." it didn't help with the crazies though. Then last month I got a great surprise. I was texted by Rhonda. She was polite an needing a reference on a client. I was scared to answer because it was sooo well set in my head from clients to never ever ever mention anything from sessions to anyone else period!

I didn't want to give anything personal out on my private clients, in my head these are my babies! They trust me! So I called the client first. I said Rhonda was asking things, is it ok to answer that. An one right after another said, yea sure, oh yea that's fine, yep please do tell her what ever she asks, yes an thank you Christina! So now, I may not call every single client Frst now, but maybe those other girls don't know if their allowed? Also it's hard to give reff on some clients, they don't like you keeping their info at all. Just my food for thought an now that you have be out the importance to everyone's attention, hopefully it will change, if I'd a seen something like this, I would of coropperated sooner.

**LeftyGolfer** · 02-07-13 09:23

Just wanted to thank you all, as I am new to USA and new to the hobby I have learned alot from your posts. I have been able to see a few of the young ladies and will write a post when I feel a little more comfortable. Thanks to all for the information.

Leftygolfer

**Bobby1862** · 02-03-13 11:21

Originally Posted by PhatDaty [View Original Post]

I heard from three different providers that there is a gentleman (and I use that word very loosely) that is on the hunt for bareback full service. I won't name the gent, since it is hearsay at the moment, but he is a senior member.

I don't usually lecture folks on what they do in the hobby. I have always thought personal preference is a personal preference and WALDT is a concept we should all follow, however, bareback is where I draw the line, because it impacts all of us in the hobby. Being a guy that loves DATY, I don't ever want a creampie surprise, but it goes beyond that.

This isn't just about preference, it is about safety. Hopefully I don't have to provide the medical facts about just how reckless such behavior is. The three ladies told me they all declined. Sadly one of them said this dude became rough and profane when she showed him the door.

Ladies, I appreciate how you have to be careful, discreet, and watch just who and what you accuse people of. If this guy visits you and pulls his manipulation tricks, or gets physical with you, please understand that there are men on this board that you can trust and if you would like, we can form a posse and show this gentleman the error of his ways and if he doesn't listen to the voice of reason, there is always a good old fashioned military soap party.

I hope the gent in question is reading this.

Dude, cover up. If you want to practice bareback, get married, stay monogamous, and don't endanger the lives of the hobby community.

Amen to this!

**MisforMaster** · 02-03-13 04:23

For the love of everything:

If you make an appointment at 2, please be here (if you're doing outcall) before 2:10.

If you can't make it, just apologize and say,"Maybe next time," and I'd have no issues with it.

Blowing my burner up because you're an hour+ late and I'm not answering a door (that I'm not even at, mind you. I left when you were 30 minutes late and not responding to my texts / calls) just makes me turn the damn thing off and adding your number to the "Do not answer ever" entry in that phone's address book.

Hell, if anyone realizes that shit happens, it's me. Fuck, I've been late for my own appointments before, but, I've always called, apologized, given them an opportunity to cancel with no hard feelings, and then tip well for being someone who wasn't mindful of their time. If you're not going to show me even a bit of the same courtesy that I show everyone else, then you're not worth my time, or my money.

That is all.

**WordSmithFour** · 02-02-13 18:29

Originally Posted by PhatDaty [View Original Post]

I heard from three different providers that there is a gentleman (and I use that word very loosely) that is on the hunt for bareback full service. I won't name the gent, since it is hearsay at the moment, but he is a senior member.

I don't usually lecture folks on what they do in the hobby. I have always thought personal preference is a personal preference and WALDT is a concept we should all follow, however, bareback is where I draw the line, because it impacts all of us in the hobby. Being a guy that loves DATY, I don't ever want a creampie surprise, but it goes beyond that.

This isn't just about preference, it is about safety. Hopefully I don't have to provide the medical facts about just how reckless such behavior is. The three ladies told me they all declined. Sadly one of them said this dude became rough and profane when she showed him the door.

Ladies, I appreciate how you have to be careful, discreet, and watch just who and what you accuse people of. If this guy visits you and pulls his manipulation tricks, or gets physical with you, please understand that there are men on this board that you can trust and if you would like, we can form a posse and show this gentleman the error of his ways and if he doesn't listen to the voice of reason, there is always a good old fashioned military soap party.

I hope the gent in question is reading this.

Dude, cover up. If you want to practice bareback, get married, stay monogamous, and don't endanger the lives of the hobby community.

Amen to all of that!