Massage Parlor Reports

**IAmCybermn** · 03-11-13 10:50

Originally Posted by Redneck3565 [View Original Post]

Saw "Lisa" at Sunshine in So. El Monte. She was average, and only PARTIALLY accomadating. Open to titty sucking, fingering and a HE, but no FS. Left. 4 as a tip (she asked for. 6, and I let her know that FS would have to be allowed for that).

Yeah the whole place is pretty average and a little depressing. Saw Candy last time, very little roaming but a pretty good tugger. Within first 2 minutes you pretty know what's going to happen so that's a plus.

**Mphelper909** · 03-09-13 23:19

Does anyone have Linda@678 Number I lost it when my Galaxy 2 took a shit?

**Member #5605** · 03-08-13 17:58

Saw "Lisa" at Sunshine in So. El Monte. She was average, and only PARTIALLY accomadating. Open to titty sucking, fingering and a HE, but no FS. Left. 4 as a tip (she asked for. 6, and I let her know that FS would have to be allowed for that).

**MusicDude** · 02-17-13 12:45

Originally Posted by OboBob [View Original Post]

Thanks for the report MusicDude bro!

To be fair, you just don't find girls with strip club caliber looks in MP's, if they are young and hot looking, strip club scenes offer much easier and much more money than AMPs. You really get what you pay for, and for. 7.8 total price of admission for an hour of private one on one that sometimes end up as FS. To some of us the price is fair and to expect a 22 yr old hottie to do this at this price in LA is not realistic (or if you do know where I can find this, please share!).

I also agree with you that both girls in JJ are a little screwed up in the head, that's probably how they end up there in the first place. Just don't get too caught up in these conversations and focus on what you want, and you would more often than not be happier on your way out.

Cheers and Happy Valentines to all!

OboBob, I don't expect a 22 yr old hottie when I go to MPs. I've been in the MP scene for quite some time now. I know what I'm getting. What pissed me off were the blatant lies. I didn't try to engage in conversation. I never do when I go to MP. Non-verbal communication is usually sufficient to get what I want. In this case, she just kept effin talking and insisting on making me think she was something that she so obviously wasn't. I like all kinds of girls. Sometimes I'm in the mood for thick, sometimes thin, sometimes Asian, sometimes Latina, etc. And I really don't mind age (mid 40s might be my limit). If her attitude was different we would have had a much more pleasant experience. I usually have a good sense when it comes to MPs. Hence, this place is a no go!

**OboBob** · 02-14-13 14:22

Thanks for the report MusicDude bro!

To be fair, you just don't find girls with strip club caliber looks in MP's, if they are young and hot looking, strip club scenes offer much easier and much more money than AMPs. You really get what you pay for, and for .7.8 total price of admission for an hour of private one on one that sometimes end up as FS. To some of us the price is fair and to expect a 22 yr old hottie to do this at this price in LA is not realistic (or if you do know where I can find this, please share!).

I also agree with you that both girls in JJ are a little screwed up in the head, that's probably how they end up there in the first place. Just don't get too caught up in these conversations and focus on what you want, and you would more often than not be happier on your way out.

Cheers and Happy Valentines to all!

Originally Posted by MusicDude [View Original Post]

M*a is a total Latina waste of time. Her face is a 4, and she is a a bit thick. Stay away from her. Looks, IMHO, aren't everything, but attitude goes a long way. Another thing that goes a long way is not trying to insult my intelligence.

When flip came, she told me. 4 for HE. I said fine. Then I started to roam and asked if I could see the goods. She said that would be. 2 more. I said I only have. 4. She said she doesn't negotiate. I said,"okay I don't negotiate either." Then, I started to get up, and she quickly changed her tune. She said she'll do it for. 4 this time only, but I was totally pissed by now, and I told her that she was such a mood killer. She wanted to know why I was such a tightwad. She started to tell me that she was worth it and much more. I said,"You probably would be worth it if you were really 29 years old." I also told her that if, in fact, this was her dream job that she really sucked at it. I told her to go back to being a dance instructor, and perhaps that would help her lose a little weight. As I quickly dressed, she started to tell me not to come back again. I looked at her and asked,"Do you really think I would want to come back? Do I look like a satisfied customer that would want to come back?" How stupid is this woman? As I proceeded out the door, she said that a gentleman would still give a tip. I just laughed it off and told her she was an effin joke! After I left, I drove down the street to Paradise and got a steamy lap dance from a real 22 yo beauty. That was a much better. 4 spent.

**Kajispam** · 02-13-13 14:26

Originally Posted by MusicDude [View Original Post]

M*a is a total Latina waste of time. Her face is a 4, and she is a a bit thick. Stay away from her. Looks, IMHO, aren't everything, but attitude goes a long way. Another thing that goes a long way is not trying to insult my intelligence.

Well that settles it. JJ sounds like a terrible place to visit.

**MusicDude** · 02-12-13 01:40

Originally Posted by OboBob [View Original Post]

Quiet night at JJ, I walked in, asked for M*a, was told biz was too slow tonite so she went home already, there was only the one Chinese lady holding the fort. As I was about to walk away, the Chinese lady almost begged me to stay. Her name is Lily. She appeared really eager and needy, so I decided to save the damsel in distress and stayed.

I started regretting it soon after, she did one of the worst massages ever, it's more like just brushing my whole body up and down and up and down using oil, with no skill at all. However maybe it's the cold night, maybe she was lonely and appreciative of me being there with her, she really took a liking of me and the chitchat and atmosphere got intimate after 20 min or so, she didn't mind me roaming all over her, OTC then UTC then top went off. She had nice soft big titties although a little love handle too, but pretty good skin and soft all over. I got more daring and sucked them titties like a hungry baby she seemed to enjoy it. After the deed, she started the caressing motion of my body again for another 15 min or so while letting me cool off before wrapping it up. No tip ever discussed, I ended up paying. 4+.3 and she seemed happy enough. My hands, tongue, and junior had a grand time, rest of the body just have to be taken cared of by another professional some other time.

M*a is a total Latina waste of time. Her face is a 4, and she is a a bit thick. Stay away from her. Looks, IMHO, aren't everything, but attitude goes a long way. Another thing that goes a long way is not trying to insult my intelligence.

So, I went to see M*a couple weeks ago. She walks in and asks me if I have a cell phone. After replying yes, she asks me to put it in a drawer. She said that someone else had secretly videotaped one of her sessions and had tried to extort her. Needless to say, I said hell no, and she was okay with that as long as it remained in my pants pocket. I was already having a bad feeling about this session. Well, I decided to stick it out, after all, it was my day off and I was seeking something different than all the Asian providers I'd been frequenting.

During the lame massage she kept reiterating how an hour would have been better since I only paid for 1/2 hr. She also began to tell me her resume, which was hilarious! She said she had her real estate license, a nursing degree, was a dance instructor, but that she finally landed her dream job. Yup, you guessed it! The art of rub 'and' tug! Yeah, I would've never guessed with her lack of enthusiasm. Sometimes, honesty is just a better route to take than to totally turn someone off with the obvious BS. She also said she was 29. Well if that was true, it is quite unfortunate that a 29 year old would already be dealing with loose neck skin. If I was a gambling man I'd say she was mid forties quite confidently.

By this time I was a little turned off by the blatant lies. Now, I know that not many providers are completely honest in conversation and in giving details about their personal lives. However, this was just too ridiculous. I was annoyed that she would actually think I was buying her BS. I didn't say anything, as I was still hoping for a HE. After, all, she did have a nice fake rack, and I was willing to bite the bullet and give her a tip.

When flip came, she told me .4 for HE. I said fine. Then I started to roam and asked if I could see the goods. She said that would be .2 more. I said I only have .4. She said she doesn't negotiate. I said,"okay I don't negotiate either." Then, I started to get up, and she quickly changed her tune. She said she'll do it for .4 this time only, but I was totally pissed by now, and I told her that she was such a mood killer. She wanted to know why I was such a tightwad. She started to tell me that she was worth it and much more. I said,"You probably would be worth it if you were really 29 years old." I also told her that if, in fact, this was her dream job that she really sucked at it. I told her to go back to being a dance instructor, and perhaps that would help her lose a little weight. As I quickly dressed, she started to tell me not to come back again. I looked at her and asked,"Do you really think I would want to come back? Do I look like a satisfied customer that would want to come back?" How stupid is this woman? As I proceeded out the door, she said that a gentleman would still give a tip. I just laughed it off and told her she was an effin joke! After I left, I drove down the street to Paradise and got a steamy lap dance from a real 22 yo beauty. That was a much better .4 spent.

So there it is comrades. I hope to report a more fulfilling experience from a different provider next time.

**Pcpc1688** · 02-10-13 11:20

Originally Posted by Snubit [View Original Post]

I like this guy. Take your time, you'll do just fine and just for some encouragement, there are. 25 places on Valley that give a good massage and HE.

Snub

Snubby,

Did you find other 25 massagi places other than Cindy on Valley that do HJ? Let me know please via PM.

PC out

**Snubit** · 02-08-13 02:59

Originally Posted by DimSumFoo45 [View Original Post]

First, thanks for all the advice it's much appreciated. I understood about 90% of it so that's a huge help. The girl I met at the Plaza wasn't named Anna, but similar hence the A*a. Then again maybe she just gave me a different name and it really is Anna LOL. I'm still new and not rich, so starting off slow suits me just fine. Like you said "going crazy with blue balls but a fuller wallet" is a good place for me right now.

I'd originally been trying to work up the nerve to try an incall ad from BP or else an AMP HE place like HT or similar, but decided against that stuff since I'd never tried anything beyond a legit AMP hot water bucket foot + body or else body massage. With my limited resources, figure I'll get some experience at the $25 grab ass places. Thanks for the tip about raising my ass. Read that so many times on these forums, but it was completely different when *I* was the one in the AMP and it was a bit overwhelming trying to remember how to go about things. Not only did I forget to raise my ass (she spent a lot of time on my butt giving me plenty of opportunity) I also forgot to start the session off laying on the table with no towel! Yep I'm a newbie.

Having read deep into many of the threads on these forums, I notice some of the senior members giving what sounds like very good advice about things like not being cheap and then getting a bad rep, and the possible value of developing a relationship if you find a MMS or girl you like. The advice that this kinda stuff can pay off in the long run sounds sensible to me. In the past I've gotten enough regular AMP massages from both men and women that I'm not completely new to the scene, and my vibe with my tech A*a makes me pretty sure my next trip will give me what I'm looking for in this price range. A lot of grab ass and roaming. Maybe I'll get lucky with a HJ or CBJ at some point, but if not I'll still be happy before trying pricier stuff because the Thai massage is so good.

I still don't know a lot of things like where Pizza is (although after some more research I think I have a general idea now). And I don't know what HX means or where it is. Lots of little questions still rolling around in my head. I've also only got ONE post (now 2) so till I've managed to contribute more and provide new info that proves valuable, it's probably for the best. Too many new people seem to want a free ride on these boards. Ya'll veterans are generous enough IMO, make us newbies contribute and that will sort out the riff raff.

I like this guy. Take your time, you'll do just fine and just for some encouragement, there are. 25 places on Valley that give a good massage and HE.

Snub

**DimSumFoo45** · 02-07-13 16:01

Originally Posted by Asgardian [View Original Post]

Nice review. If you are set on HE, then you going to the wrong place. Pizza. 123, 678 are sure fire and on the cheaper side, you just need to build up thick skin when you try to force a granny on you, you can't beat. 7 to. 8 for HJ (that's. 3.4 door fee +.3. 4 tip) , whereas HT like places will set you back the $.4 standard and at times too mechanical but if you haven't experienced the routine, then by all means try it a dozen times at least.

Without HE. 2 tip is too much IMHO! If you are rich then yeah go for it, with the right provider you'll likely get more mileage but usually not.

Here's what I go by:*HJ. 3.4, HJ + roaming. 4.5, BBBJ. 6, FS. 8+ (but towards this end on the spectrum, you might as well join HX).

I try not to pay more than. 3 door fee unless they have table-shower, there a a few places in Arcadia on baldwin that is. 35 with TS, very nice if you have the budget.

When they brush your ass, lift it up way high in the air so they get the idea of reach under, feels great when they go for it! However, PHC might not be the place that this would happen, not saying it won't with the right girl.

I've been going to the two places you mentioned and various. 25 / hr places on valley over the past year, averaging 2-3 times a week and have found a little more fun than what the average person might notice (not HE). However, what you experienced with Anna is near the most you can get at PHC, on the contrary, the other places can get you a tiny little more if you find the right person. From what I have gather, it's 20% the place and 50% the girl and 30% on you, for rather fun can be had at an unexplored AMP.

I'm poor and have gotten tired of HJ and BBBJ at AMP is way too expansive and very difficult to find for my lack of game and / or resources, so I go for. 25 / hr places only and have fun my way, lots of tease and going crazy with blue balls but fuller wallet.

Happy hunting.

First, thanks for all the advice it's much appreciated. I understood about 90% of it so that's a huge help. The girl I met at the Plaza wasn't named Anna, but similar hence the A*a. Then again maybe she just gave me a different name and it really is Anna LOL. I'm still new and not rich, so starting off slow suits me just fine. Like you said "going crazy with blue balls but a fuller wallet" is a good place for me right now.

I'd originally been trying to work up the nerve to try an incall ad from BP or else an AMP HE place like HT or similar, but decided against that stuff since I'd never tried anything beyond a legit AMP hot water bucket foot + body or else body massage. With my limited resources, figure I'll get some experience at the $25 grab ass places. Thanks for the tip about raising my ass. Read that so many times on these forums, but it was completely different when *I* was the one in the AMP and it was a bit overwhelming trying to remember how to go about things. Not only did I forget to raise my ass (she spent a lot of time on my butt giving me plenty of opportunity) I also forgot to start the session off laying on the table with no towel! Yep I'm a newbie.

Having read deep into many of the threads on these forums, I notice some of the senior members giving what sounds like very good advice about things like not being cheap and then getting a bad rep, and the possible value of developing a relationship if you find a MMS or girl you like. The advice that this kinda stuff can pay off in the long run sounds sensible to me. In the past I've gotten enough regular AMP massages from both men and women that I'm not completely new to the scene, and my vibe with my tech A*a makes me pretty sure my next trip will give me what I'm looking for in this price range. A lot of grab ass and roaming. Maybe I'll get lucky with a HJ or CBJ at some point, but if not I'll still be happy before trying pricier stuff because the Thai massage is so good.

I still don't know a lot of things like where Pizza is (although after some more research I think I have a general idea now). And I don't know what HX means or where it is. Lots of little questions still rolling around in my head. I've also only got ONE post (now 2) so till I've managed to contribute more and provide new info that proves valuable, it's probably for the best. Too many new people seem to want a free ride on these boards. Ya'll veterans are generous enough IMO, make us newbies contribute and that will sort out the riff raff.

**OboBob** · 02-05-13 18:12

Just got back after a week in New York Manhattan.

Have to say I miss the cheap $35-40 entry fee in the SGV.

My quick impression of the Manhattan AMP scenes. $60 entry fee for Chinese operated AMP's, $70 80 for Korean AMP.

$80 ticket price would get you younger prettier girls 8-10 looks.

$60 ticket price gives you Chinese ladies who are better looking than most SGV AMP ladies, with above average massage skills. But half of them do not have TS while most Korean places have either TS or jacuzzi.

Tips for HJ is $50-60 and more you tip you can demand more than just HJ, BJ and even FS tend to be more available at additional costs. Chinese places give more therapeutic massages, but Korean places really blow me away with how flirtatious and playful the ladies were from beginning all the way to the end.

**FourIncher** · 02-05-13 18:08

I TOFTT around the Monorvia area. They advertise on BP with the usual grand opening. The funny thing is I believe they are new. LOL. Unless I havent notice them. Lets call them LEmsg. Anyways. I called in advanced saying I will be there in fifteen minutes. I'm a little paranoid and like to scope the place out for any weird actions or le. I went in and there was a cute asain. Her name is and*a. And charged the .40 for 1/2. I knew she was to cute to be the mms and as I was being showed the room I walked across the mms. She gave the cute one a nod. As if "he is ok" I didn't really k ow whT that couldve ment. In the room I undress and with the little experience I have I didn't use the towel. She came in and asked if I wanted oil and what type massage. I said no oil and light. She light touched me and everytime she would pass by my ass or thighs I would moan to signal her. I did do some roaming and she did let me grab ass. Thighs and waste. She would politely walk off but not say no. I would also lift my butt in the air everytime she came near my butt. As the massage kept going she started the teasing. Wouldn't touch the sack but skim through it. She asked me to flip and asked what would I like. With my eyes I pointed to her paints and with my finger I pulled down a bit of her jeans. She said no. We don't do that. I give you my hand for .40 I was alrdt to hard to say no and not receive anything. She grabbed the oil Nd worked on jr for a good 5 minutes. As she tugged I was roaming everywhere even underneath the bra. Amazing skills! I usually take awhile to bust but her hand skills were great. The tight rolling motion over the head and base with both hands skill. You know what I'm talking about LOL. After busting she cleaned me up really good. Said to come back and visit her. I left and tipped her the .40. Honestly it didn't hurt because of the hand skills. MMV.

**Asgardian** · 02-05-13 15:57

Nice review. If you are set on HE, then you going to the wrong place. Pizza. 123, 678 are sure fire and on the cheaper side, you just need to build up thick skin when you try to force a granny on you, you can't beat. 7 to. 8 for HJ (that's. 3.4 door fee +.3. 4 tip) , whereas HT like places will set you back the $.4 standard and at times too mechanical but if you haven't experienced the routine, then by all means try it a dozen times at least.

Without HE .2 tip is too much IMHO! If you are rich then yeah go for it, with the right provider you'll likely get more mileage but usually not.

Here's what I go by:*HJ .3 .4, HJ + roaming .4 .5, BBBJ .6, FS .8+ (but towards this end on the spectrum, you might as well join HX).

I try not to pay more than .3 door fee unless they have table-shower, there a a few places in Arcadia on baldwin that is .35 with TS, very nice if you have the budget.

When they brush your ass, lift it up way high in the air so they get the idea of reach under, feels great when they go for it! However, PHC might not be the place that this would happen, not saying it won't with the right girl.

I've been going to the two places you mentioned and various .25 / hr places on valley over the past year, averaging 2-3 times a week and have found a little more fun than what the average person might notice (not HE). However, what you experienced with Anna is near the most you can get at PHC, on the contrary, the other places can get you a tiny little more if you find the right person. From what I have gather, it's 20% the place and 50% the girl and 30% on you, for rather fun can be had at an unexplored AMP.

I'm poor and have gotten tired of HJ and BBBJ at AMP is way too expansive and very difficult to find for my lack of game and / or resources, so I go for .25 / hr places only and have fun my way, lots of tease and going crazy with blue balls but fuller wallet.

Happy hunting.

Originally Posted by DimSumFoo45 [View Original Post]

Hello all. Lurker turned poster here but did some homework reading the forums. Not much to share but here goes.

I'm new to all this but got to start somewhere so after working up the nerve I went with the place you recommended Teddy. Considered some of the better known places that give HE, but figured it'd be an experience no matter what happened so starting off slow might be better since I'm a newbie. I hit Sunny Plaza and went to the 2nd floor. There was a MMS (still not sure if that means what I think it means) right at the top of the stairs and she quoted the $25 / hr full body seen on BP. I was so nervous I said yes and headed inside. After 15 or 20 mins, I tried to brush my hand against the calf of my girl, but no go. I wasn't rude or pushy but gave it a few more cracks and was again denied. Then I remembered the directions from the ad on where to go and realized I might be in the wrong place. I was. The plaza has several AMPs so be sure you know where you are going. To make matters worse the massage was just okay vs even the hot water foot massage stuff from a lot of the other AMPs. She was still polite the whole time and didn't get mad at all. There were 2 other mongers in there (one spoke Mandarin) who both made it pretty clear what they were there for but the "no"s I kept hearing from their massagers told me they were getting denied too. I tipped 10 and left.

After TOFTT at the first place (or else just noobing it) I went back to the plaza and the correct place. Got a gal named A*a. Nice looking with a nice rack. After she asked I admitted it was my first time there. She had me pay up front which I did. This was my first Thai massage ever. Damn, it was pretty awesome vs the legit massages I'd always gotten previously (1hr foot massages with some body and face). Her Thai style wasn't as good as a true swedish massage, but I really enjoyed it overall.

From the start I was still really nervous but worked up the courage to rub her legs and feet. She was okay with that. Eventually I touched her ass and she slowly and calmly brushed my hand away but not in a way that made me think she wouldn't let a more experienced monger get some action. Later on, as she crouched above my head I gave her a foot and leg massage as she did my back, but this time resisted moving on to her tastier bits. Figured if Teddy is willing to try and build up a good rep with 4 massages in a month, I can at least take it easy since I was a virgin to this ass grab stuff. During the last 20mins or so of the massage when she was doing a great job on my legs and butt, a few times she gripped her fingers deep into my buttcrack (but never touched the hole) and a couple times she would just barely, and I mean barely, brushed the hairs on my sack. Teasing, taking it slow with the new guy or making sure I'm not LE? Prolly all of them, but it's fine I was happy (and hard). After the flip, I used jr to lift the towel a few times. This was in plain view of her and she made some comments about how nice and strong I was and gave me a caress and playful pinch on the cheek.

When it was time to wrap it up, I was going to give her only 10 tip since I have no idea what's appropriate (I'd normally tip 10 for a legit 1hr foot massage) , but had forgot to get change. I gave her 20 and asked for 5 back but of course she gave me the sob story and I'm a sucker so I just asked her to take care of me next time. I'll be back there in the next week or so to push my luck and see if she is more willing.

Did I tip too much? Especially since I didn't do any actual goodie grabbing? I don't want to drive the market up. Next time I will definitely take only 10 or 15 for tip unless ya'll tell me otherwise.

No matter what thanks for all the info already posted. This stuff has been great to learn and I look forward to contributing.

**DimSumFoo45** · 02-05-13 05:09

Hello all. Lurker turned poster here but did some homework reading the forums. Not much to share but here goes.

Originally Posted by TeddybearG [View Original Post]

Happy New Years to all! Been going to this spot about 4x during the month of December, pretty legit. Trying to so called (LOL) build a good rep with the two females I go see. Should I even bother to do soo? Curious if anyone got any luck with a HJ yet? Its only $25 hr full body w / table shower, ad on BP. Never had a problem grabbing their ass, tits and snatch.

I'm new to all this but got to start somewhere so after working up the nerve I went with the place you recommended Teddy. Considered some of the better known places that give HE, but figured it'd be an experience no matter what happened so starting off slow might be better since I'm a newbie. I hit Sunny Plaza and went to the 2nd floor. There was a MMS (still not sure if that means what I think it means) right at the top of the stairs and she quoted the $25 / hr full body seen on BP. I was so nervous I said yes and headed inside. After 15 or 20 mins, I tried to brush my hand against the calf of my girl, but no go. I wasn't rude or pushy but gave it a few more cracks and was again denied. Then I remembered the directions from the ad on where to go and realized I might be in the wrong place. I was. The plaza has several AMPs so be sure you know where you are going. To make matters worse the massage was just okay vs even the hot water foot massage stuff from a lot of the other AMPs. She was still polite the whole time and didn't get mad at all. There were 2 other mongers in there (one spoke Mandarin) who both made it pretty clear what they were there for but the "no"s I kept hearing from their massagers told me they were getting denied too. I tipped 10 and left.

Originally Posted by Pcpc1688 [View Original Post]

Hey Teddy,

Which gals here let you do what you do with the tits and ass and snatch?

PC out

After TOFTT at the first place (or else just noobing it) I went back to the plaza and the correct place. Got a gal named A*a. Nice looking with a nice rack. After she asked I admitted it was my first time there. She had me pay up front which I did. This was my first Thai massage ever. Damn, it was pretty awesome vs the legit massages I'd always gotten previously (1hr foot massages with some body and face). Her Thai style wasn't as good as a true swedish massage, but I really enjoyed it overall.

From the start I was still really nervous but worked up the courage to rub her legs and feet. She was okay with that. Eventually I touched her ass and she slowly and calmly brushed my hand away but not in a way that made me think she wouldn't let a more experienced monger get some action. Later on, as she crouched above my head I gave her a foot and leg massage as she did my back, but this time resisted moving on to her tastier bits. Figured if Teddy is willing to try and build up a good rep with 4 massages in a month, I can at least take it easy since I was a virgin to this ass grab stuff. During the last 20mins or so of the massage when she was doing a great job on my legs and butt, a few times she gripped her fingers deep into my buttcrack (but never touched the hole) and a couple times she would just barely, and I mean barely, brushed the hairs on my sack. Teasing, taking it slow with the new guy or making sure I'm not LE? Prolly all of them, but it's fine I was happy (and hard). After the flip, I used jr to lift the towel a few times. This was in plain view of her and she made some comments about how nice and strong I was and gave me a caress and playful pinch on the cheek.

When it was time to wrap it up, I was going to give her only 10 tip since I have no idea what's appropriate (I'd normally tip 10 for a legit 1hr foot massage) , but had forgot to get change. I gave her 20 and asked for 5 back but of course she gave me the sob story and I'm a sucker so I just asked her to take care of me next time. I'll be back there in the next week or so to push my luck and see if she is more willing.

Did I tip too much? Especially since I didn't do any actual goodie grabbing? I don't want to drive the market up. Next time I will definitely take only 10 or 15 for tip unless ya'll tell me otherwise.

No matter what thanks for all the info already posted. This stuff has been great to learn and I look forward to contributing.