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  1. #13575
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuGuy36  [View Original Post]
    FWIW, in the eye's of the LAW if "any" woman asks you stop doing something that is hurting her and you do not stop, it's ASSAULT/RAPE period!
    I think you have a good point. I really wonder what would happen if a working girl pursued legal action for something like this. Seems the initial burden would fall on her since she'd have to explain why she was fucking a complete stranger and provide evidence that her ass was torn up. If she were able to get beyond that point (I doubt it) , then perhaps the legal process would shift to the guy.

  2. #13574
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juker  [View Original Post]
    There was no extra charge. The ad was misleading and not written by her, so she was surprised as anyone. For that I can understand the guy being pissed. But ho or not he should have stopped. Second, he was no gentleman about it. If he was she might have enjoyed it or at least made it through. In fact I made it known I was disappointed because I might have wanted to try it some day. She actually said she liked to experiment and she would do it because she trusted me enough to be nice about it (basic respect goes a long way). Bottom line this guy was a low class brutal asshole. IMO just because you are paying for it gives you no right to treat a girl like shit.
    Well Juker, if you do ever get her to do Greek with you, let us know how it goes.

  3. #13573
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshalRick  [View Original Post]
    But we only got her side of the story. And the client is not responsible for what her handler advertised. I'm not saying what happened was right, but there is always 2 sides to the story, and the truth usually lies in the middle. JMO
    Amen to that. Not in any way discounting what Juker said, but we all know how these girls can exaggerate; however, I would never condone a guy ripping a provider's ass apart if it were obvious she was in pain or told him to stop. Plus, it really makes me wonder how physically hard she tried to stop the guy. Was she completely pinned down by him? Any attempt to twist her body so his dick would pop out? If so, what did he do, hold her down again and continue? Too many unanswered questions.

  4. #13572
    Quote Originally Posted by Juker  [View Original Post]
    There was no extra charge. The ad was misleading and not written by her, so she was surprised as anyone. For that I can understand the guy being pissed. But ho or not he should have stopped. Second, he was no gentleman about it. If he was she might have enjoyed it or at least made it through. In fact I made it known I was disappointed because I might have wanted to try it some day. She actually said she liked to experiment and she would do it because she trusted me enough to be nice about it (basic respect goes a long way). Bottom line this guy was a low class brutal asshole. IMO just because you are paying for it gives you no right to treat a girl like shit.
    But we only got her side of the story. And the client is not responsible for what her handler advertised. I'm not saying what happened was right, but there is always 2 sides to the story, and the truth usually lies in the middle. JMO

  5. #13571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Hamlet  [View Original Post]
    If a woman asks a man to stop is different than a ho asking a trick to stop doing something that was advertised as a service and most likely charged extra for
    There was no extra charge. The ad was misleading and not written by her, so she was surprised as anyone. For that I can understand the guy being pissed. But ho or not he should have stopped. Second, he was no gentleman about it. If he was she might have enjoyed it or at least made it through. In fact I made it known I was disappointed because I might have wanted to try it some day. She actually said she liked to experiment and she would do it because she trusted me enough to be nice about it (basic respect goes a long way). Bottom line this guy was a low class brutal asshole. IMO just because you are paying for it gives you no right to treat a girl like shit.

  6. #13570
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutTher  [View Original Post]
    Had some time with Lacy from BP. Wasted. 60$ on the meet up. She is not hot really. Tall chick with strech marks from child birth recently. Pics don't show her body how it looks in person. Wouldn't even waste your money. You know I had to get out there though.
    It's best to post a link.

  7. #13569
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Hamlet  [View Original Post]
    If a woman asks a man to stop is different than a ho asking a trick to stop doing something that was advertised as a service and most likely charged extra for
    Good luck with that argument in a court. I suspect we will not agree on this point. My opinion is that YMMV on services happens all the time and guys (and tricks) need to respect "no" at ALL times. And just because something is written in a review or listed on her site under services, I have minimal expectations that everything listed will be available during my visit with her. When it happens with a "ho" then guys should spread the word and do a report. If I understand you. Your opinion is that if it is advertised it should be available to all. Where we seem to disagree is forcing a female to go through with an act after she has said no (perhaps I misunderstand you?)

    Your comment about extra charges for extra services seems like a gray area to me; based on the timing of when those extras were agreed upon. If anyone were already engaged in a session and then the lady mentioned an upgrade to greek or BBBJ for $X more and then said stop, I would be more understanding about a guy having some serious self-control issues in stopping.

    Just felt like giving my opinion. Not trying to start anything. It is the holiday season after all.

  8. #13568
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Hamlet  [View Original Post]
    If a woman asks a man to stop is different than a ho asking a trick to stop doing something that was advertised as a service and most likely charged extra for
    FWIW, in the eye's of the LAW if "any" woman asks you stop doing something that is hurting her and you do not stop, it's ASSAULT/RAPE period!

  9. #13567
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Hamlet  [View Original Post]
    If a woman asks a man to stop is different than a ho asking a trick to stop doing something that was advertised as a service and most likely charged extra for
    Good luck using that as a defense if it ever comes down to it!

    O.

  10. #13566
    Quote Originally Posted by Zipper34  [View Original Post]
    Okay, I do agree that if a woman asks a man to stop doing anything sexually with her, and he doesn't stop, then it is rape. I used to see this girl who I met off the internet a few years back all the time. Used to finger her all the time before we had sex. One night though, she suddenly asked me to stop fingering her, and I did. Again, if a woman asks a man to stop doing anything sexually and he doesn't, then it is rape.
    If a woman asks a man to stop is different than a ho asking a trick to stop doing something that was advertised as a service and most likely charged extra for

  11. #13565
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwhipped  [View Original Post]
    YEP! ! Maybe I should write a book. LOL I used todo much more and have wasted many $$ on helping the escorts.

    I still help the down trodden. But have been looking at the other class of families. These are not working ladies or ones who will drop the panties for dollars. I have met so many in my line of work that have menial job / low pay. And have kids and no or worthless dads. Yeah, I get wrapped up in the kids and keep shelling out for those in need, but at least most of those are very grateful.
    My *Doctor* once told me I should write a book. It wouldn't be a best seller like yours though, LOL. Yes he knows what I do. He pretty much figured it out for himself since there's no other plausible way for a man my age to get laid so much. He's helped me with a couple of questions and vice versa, believe it or not. You'd be amazed at how ill informed most doctors are especially about HIV. He was curious about it all and it was kinda funny telling him about "the scene."

    I understand and basically agree with everyone's response here. But it's not everyday someone you know gets pneumonia and, well, I couldn't NOT do what I did, and I'd do it again. I'm just shocked at the utter lack of gratitude. It really came at a bad time for me, too, though I'd probably have just blown it on another piece of ass anyway, LOL. Also, this was *not* a case of being cheated out of some money (which has happened more that I would like to admit). The girl really was sick as a dog and looked like death warmed over the other day. Hell, a hundred years ago pneumonia was pretty much a death sentence.

  12. #13564

    Not the hot body in the picks

    Had some time with Lacy from BP. Wasted. 60$ on the meet up. She is not hot really. Tall chick with strech marks from child birth recently. Pics don't show her body how it looks in person. Wouldn't even waste your money. You know I had to get out there though.

  13. #13563
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias  [View Original Post]
    I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it's just a very, very bad idea to get involved with prostitutes in any capacity beyond "strictly business". These are very, very damaged people.

    You're upset that this girl is "ungrateful", but you're talking about someone who was almost certainly sexually molested as a minor, has probably been raped quite a few times, comes from abject poverty, has no education and no prospect, and very likely will not die a natural death at an old age.

    Bottom one percent, at best.

    Don't get me wrong, I love a good, slutty w h o are e, and I even like the atmosphere of gamesmanship in dealing with them, but I won't trust them, and I certainly won't waste my time on them! I advise others to do the same.

    O.
    Was going to reply but this says it all.

  14. #13562
    Quote Originally Posted by NuGuy36  [View Original Post]
    I'm willing to bet Pwipped could write a book about his experiences with ungrateful girls. I'm permanently retired from the Capt save a hoe business. Keep it simple folks: You pay, you both have fun within the allocated time, and then you move on. Nothing more, nothing else!
    YEP! ! Maybe I should write a book. LOL I used todo much more and have wasted many $$ on helping the escorts.

    I still help the down trodden. But have been looking at the other class of families. These are not working ladies or ones who will drop the panties for dollars. I have met so many in my line of work that have menial job / low pay. And have kids and no or worthless dads. Yeah, I get wrapped up in the kids and keep shelling out for those in need, but at least most of those are very grateful.

    Yep, Christmas for the kids.

    Wet Dreams, PW

  15. #13561
    Quote Originally Posted by Juker  [View Original Post]
    Well I kept this info in the PMs to a few Senior guys but see no reason any longer. I am really pissed and need to rant.

    An Erica want-to-be named Nikki was posting for a while on CL / CE for a few girls. Via email she told me they were just a bunch of girls with jobs and so-on, just sharing info and helping one another. I saw one named Tiffany (yet another Tiffany. I must have four in my phone already). She was hot as hell but unfortunately she moved to Chicago last week. At least she'll be visiting her Mom here occasionally.

    Another was "Missy". She was outcall from nearby Norcross at the time I saw her (twice). I "thought" she was a really sweet girl.

    By the second time I had figured Nikki out. This is no "group of friends." Nikki barely advertizes, does no screening that I could tell, and keeps 50 percent of the total. On top of that she way undercuts the rates in the few ads she does post. Missy says she normally wants 150-160 outcall and that she told Nikki she'd do anything except swallow and anal. Well, Nikki posted one ad for her in Spanish (though Nikki doesn't speak it) that read,"$40 deep blow job and I will clean you with my throat, or $80 per hour". I translated this for Missy and she was aghast. Another ad in English was pretty normal, but still only $100 per hour and included the backdoor. And oh, she visited one client that was expecting anal because it was listed in the ad. Missy relented. This asswipe was NOT a gentleman about it and she asked him to stop when it became too painful. But he wouldn't and just kept plowing away. I am sorry, but that is fucking RAPE in my book.

    Another time Nikki called Tiffany and said she was running $80 specials all night, like that was something to be excited about. Tiffany said fuck that, I'm not driving across town for 40 fucking dollars!

    So anyway, Missy called a few weeks ago saying her car broke down on the side of the road and the next day the towing company said it was gone. Stolen. She wanted a loan for a just a junker, which I couldn't provide even if I wanted to (not) but I did say I'd give her a ride to school at least till the semester was over and so on. I've heard it all, trust me, but I actually believed her.

    Then three weeks ago Missy called saying she was really sick and asked for a ride to the ER at Grady. I said,"Why Grady? The hospital next door to me is right up the road from you". She told me she had moved to Decatur. OK, that explains the stolen car, LOL.

    So I drove to Decatur and then to Grady and sat with her in that hell-hole of a waiting room with her all afternoon. Her cousin finally called and said she could pick her up later. But before I left I located the restrooms in case she had to puke, only to see signs on the door saying "key located at front desk!" WTF? What if you got to puke?

    Well, her cousin didn't need to come because she was admitted for pneumonia. She ended up staying there for three damn weeks and only just got out the other day. Yes, I picked her up and she still looked like hammered shit, had lost a huge amount of weight, and could barely talk. She had no money at all and her phone was about to be shut off, so I paid it ($100). She also had no food in the house so the next day Thursday I drove to Decatur in the driving rain and gave her $150 worth of supplies.

    Did I get a Thank You? Barely, but only after I later texted her to ask if she liked the stuff I picked out.

    Today she texted asking for a ride to the store around 2. I said I could right now (at 12) but was going to a football party at 1 and tomorrow morning would be much better if she could wait.

    The only response I got was "never mind".

    I mean, is that FUCKING IT?

    What an ungrateful fucking by&th.

    /rant. Very sorry. I had to do it.

    (Jackson: dashes, hyphens, and ellipses are a part of English grammar. I am SO tired of re-editing posts so I don't come off as an idiot. I do admit I often use ellipses for effect and not properly.)

    Edit: too painful, not to painful. Sorry, maybe I AM an idiot.
    Okay, I do agree that if a woman asks a man to stop doing anything sexually with her, and he doesn't stop, then it is rape. I used to see this girl who I met off the internet a few years back all the time. Used to finger her all the time before we had sex. One night though, she suddenly asked me to stop fingering her, and I did. Again, if a woman asks a man to stop doing anything sexually and he doesn't, then it is rape.

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