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  1. #11821

    We all know about this situation

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteTimer  [View Original Post]
    What you're doing now is what we call re-investing. You have to pull out your investment of time, money and energy in Kiara and have to re-invest in someone else. You are not the 1st one as my friend Joe Cool is learning right now, and this was not a wasted investment, because she was obviously fun for the moist part, and if she wakes up suddenly she may discover you probably were a high (not needle induced) point in her life. I only met her once, and was amazed of how pretty she was, but I know that spell all too well. You're still thinking linear; as most of us old soldiers do do don't punish yourself for making it through the chaos of someone else's life. Now, go out and find some sweet young thang to take your mind off the drama; carry on.
    I think that we are taking to much time on this subject If I would have known that answering or responding to BBB's post would have started such huge response on my comments, I probably would not have done it. I am certainly past it as all of us should be by now. LOL.

    It happens to the best of us and even the ones that have been mongering for years.

    Happy Hunting

  2. #11820

    Kindness for Weakness

    I don't allow myself to close to these girls. I treat them with respect but keep them at a distance when it comes to my emotions. I've been told by a SW every time I see her 'I'm getting into a program next week' Well next week comes and she is on the same program-SW. I wish them the best, but I can't SAVE them. THEY have to go through the difficult rehabilitation process and have the resilience not relapse. What I can do is pull for them from a distance and hope that they are successful in their future endeavors. Thanks to the posters who provided their stories-teaching moments.

  3. #11819
    The best one can do is to offer some kind words of advice and moral support. Most SW's tend to have a lot of problems. I try to be nice to the girls. There was this one girl named Junie that I visited when she was in the hospital.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiling Fox  [View Original Post]
    Look, Some times it is easy to "fall" for one of our ladies. We are involved intimately with them. We may try hard to SAVE them.

    You can't. You can help, you can support them, you can even aid them. You can love them. But Gentleman, YOU CANNOT SAVE THEM.

    There is a line. It is very clear. If you cross that line, and you will know when you do. Its when you know you are "involved" with them, When your private personal life is being opened to them. This is a Big Red Flag. It will destroy you, and your life. Stop.

    I have an expression. You have read my posts, I am an intensive lover. I make love to my ladies, I pay amazing attention to their needs and passions, I am supportive and helpful to my closest friends. I say to them.

    Fall in love with me, I will fall in love with you. For just a little while. And then they are gone.

    I can't beleive we are having this descussion again. But I see new names, so its always good to review the rules.

    An update here. 4 day marathon. 4 girls 4 days 4 amazing women. OMG. I am even impressed. LOL.

    Headen for the Hosp. Next week, so all your ladies will be safe for a few weeks. My ladies want to visit me in the hosp. How can I hit on that hot nurse with all these girls running around my room. LOL.

    Be safe out there.

    Smiling Fox, ; }

  4. #11818

    Gentleman, There is a line, and there is a rule.

    Look, Some times it is easy to "fall" for one of our ladies. We are involved intimately with them. We may try hard to SAVE them.

    You can't. You can help, you can support them, you can even aid them. You can love them. But Gentleman, YOU CANNOT SAVE THEM.

    There is a line. It is very clear. If you cross that line, and you will know when you do. Its when you know you are "involved" with them, When your private personal life is being opened to them. This is a Big Red Flag. It will destroy you, and your life. Stop.

    I have an expression. You have read my posts, I am an intensive lover. I make love to my ladies, I pay amazing attention to their needs and passions, I am supportive and helpful to my closest friends. I say to them.

    Fall in love with me, I will fall in love with you. For just a little while. And then they are gone.

    I can't beleive we are having this descussion again. But I see new names, so its always good to review the rules.

    An update here. 4 day marathon. 4 girls 4 days 4 amazing women. OMG. I am even impressed. LOL.

    Headen for the Hosp. Next week, so all your ladies will be safe for a few weeks. My ladies want to visit me in the hosp. How can I hit on that hot nurse with all these girls running around my room. LOL.

    Be safe out there.

    Smiling Fox, ; }

  5. #11817

    Renee is back3

    Renee is back3
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    Renee is back2

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  7. #11815

    Renee is back

    Time to put a smile on your faces after all that drama this week, hope you gentlemen enjoy.
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  8. #11814

    Drama is a constant

    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Bad Boy  [View Original Post]
    All have a story to tell and many of us want to help out, it rarely works and leaves us frustrated. Drugs really mess them up to the point it affects their memory and thought process, making it nearly impossible to be responsible. Drama is a big part of this hobby and you need to keep your distance and be careful not to cross that line of getting too involved in their lives. It's always a good idea to have a back up plan ready when something goes wrong. .We need to remember at all times that we live in two different worlds which neither will be able to fit into the other. BBB
    I agree with everyone. Most people that get caught up with a SW / provider forget that the reason why they initially began seeing the SW / or provider was because of the convenience: The ability to get what you want (physical satisfaction) , without the drama, obligation, or significant expenditure of time / money / or effort. Those are the parameters / context of every SW / provider relationship. However, things go sideways when hobbyist bring civilian rules and expectations into a pay for play relationship.

    Succinctly put, it is business. Those hobbyist amongst us that are therapists / divorce lawyers do not date clients, just as officers don't date enlisted, and nco's don't date non-nco's = it is contrary to good order and discipline. In fact, this entire discussion reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry had sex with his house cleaner. After a while, she would come over, not clean a thing, and then still want to get paid. Same scenario with a SW / provider. After all they are human, and who wouldn't take the easy way out? If a guy will pay w / o the play, they will take the path of least resistance and effort and milk the situation. Just my two cents.

    Doe

  9. #11813

    Its a life time struggle

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Irish  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like an adrenaline addiction in and of itself. W / o the drugs (well not directly). Girls use different terms for this, the girls in Nevada call guys like this "Capt' save a 'ho". In reality, they don't want to be saved. Harsh reality for those that get sucked into the save a princess fairy tale. Pretty Woman this is not.
    Boy have I tried to play Captain America and tried to save the day. This year the girls that went the longest being clean, fell of the wagon. Like I said earlier. This is not like on TV. Dr. Drew will not help these girls. When you start getting sucked in, play the BROKE card. I agree with this. Become more broke than Donald Trump before a divorce! Just take the lumps and move on. Like they say on the block."next booty on duty". But just be nice anyway. Keep hunting / sharing. I know I am.

  10. #11812

    Getting sucked in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsetrader  [View Original Post]
    We all know how to get sucked into the world of a streetwalker, many of us have done it. It's as easy as falling off a log. BBB and Punished just described some of the heartaches and issues very nicely.

    I have two suggestions of how to get out of her world. First, is to plead poverty when she calls: "Oh, baby, I want to see you so bad but I just paid rent and I don't have money to put gas in the car to come see you. This car is too expensive, I need to sell it and buy a POS." Even if you are filthy rich these girls can related to being broke. Don't ever say that you can't spend money today because you need to pay rent (or whatever) tomorrow, that is admitting you have money today and she wants it. Second, you need to convince her that she can get money from other men. I once drove a girl to her client so she could do a BJ for the $20 she needed to buy her meds, she would have been really pissed if she knew I had plenty of money in the trunk when I dropped her off. When she talks about other men paying her money, be supportive of her servicing that man."Wow, it sounds like he is rich, you should give him a call. I wish I had that much money."

    Once she believes that you are broke she won't have any reason to call you.
    Getting sucked in may cost more than time and money. I occasionally hear of well-meaning mongers who bail out favored SWers. While the gesture is kind (if not at least a little self serving) it could leave one's name attached to a court record that surfaces in a MD judiciary court search. I don't think many of us would be partial to our names be attached to some of these girls, especial those with prostitution charges.

  11. #11811
    Quote Originally Posted by Punished  [View Original Post]
    It did not start out as a mission nor a quest. It was just something that developed and then ended like most things in life. Kiara's actions are of her own doing and at this time she knows her actions are not correct but at the same time she does not care about a week from now, tomorrow, or the last hour. She appreciates the present and now. Nothing more and nothing less will do. She has told me that no one has treated her the way that I did but at the same time it ended with her pushing away because I would not yield to all her thoughts on what she considered grand ideas. My mission if there was one was to treat her well and because of my financial situation I can do so very easily but she got to use to it and started to demand and not ask with the polite tones. It started with can I or may I, to I need this now in order to do this or that. When I pushed back, it was like I was putting her in her place like others have done in her life. She then decided to move on. There is one thing that I have learned with 21 years of military service and business. You can not control others and there thoughts, deeds, or temperament. You can not help the unwilling if they are not willing to do what is best for them. But more importantly you can not say that you did not try. I can look myself in the mirror and know that I gave my best for Kiara in this situation. I would still be helping her if she was moving forward and not backwards. I was Johnny on the spot for her when she needed something but it comes a time when you have to push back when you see your efforts going without a purpose. But I know my efforts and I know that I tried, when others can not say that. I remember her showing me and telling me that when I was traveling that she could not get a ride to the probation office because either someone wanted free sex or BBBJ for payment for a ride or money from her. She was putting forth the effort and did not have the resources when I was not around. That is effort even if failure. But when the effort ended even when resources are presented, then that is pure lack of trying. So CLS, the key word is TRY. And yes if you want to call what I did as a mission, then yes it was a success. Not a long one but still a success. For a few months she was on track but the Dope won at the end of the day. There is no replacing that first love of hers and that is Dope. She said that plainly and clearly several times. I got her mindset away from that briefly and there was another person behind the curtain, but not even help from me or her grandparents could keep it closed from the streets and dope that awaited her with every step.

    The three girls that I have helped in my monger years where ones that I saw promise in. Others I did not even attempt to help because there was no glimmer of light. Kiara when she is clear is a wonderful person with so much personality. She often gets shy even at times and shows a side of her that is not present to others. She shows shame and remorse but those end quickly when it is time to feed the beast. Kiara will get clean regardless of if she wants it or not in the near future because of her past actions long before I came along. It will not be of her choice to do so but she knows that and is running 100mph until the time comes. I just hope she does not burn out before she has a chance to clear that mind and body of hers.

    So yes it was a success no matter how brief it was because I can say that I TRIED!

    Happy Hunting CLS. And hope you have many Monger Years ahead of you. May you have a pocket full of Viagra! LOL
    What you're doing now is what we call re-investing. You have to pull out your investment of time, money and energy in Kiara and have to re-invest in someone else. You are not the 1st one as my friend Joe Cool is learning right now, and this was not a wasted investment, because she was obviously fun for the moist part, and if she wakes up suddenly she may discover you probably were a high (not needle induced) point in her life. I only met her once, and was amazed of how pretty she was, but I know that spell all too well. You're still thinking linear; as most of us old soldiers do do don't punish yourself for making it through the chaos of someone else's life. Now, go out and find some sweet young thang to take your mind off the drama; carry on.

  12. #11810

    A few suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteTimer  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone else had difficulties w / these hard returns, or breaking up the paragraphs into double spaced sentences w / caps in the wrong places or capitalized letters in unintended places? If you have a solution I could use it would be appreciated. This infraction business for unintentional print issues is a pain in the ass, so ideas are welcome.
    You can't write here the way you would in other places. Don't use dashes, because they'll turn into periods, then the next letter becomes capitalized. Only hit Enter when you're starting a new paragraph.

    Finally, hit Preview Report to see what it looks like, then fix any problems before clicking Upload Report.

  13. #11809
    Quote Originally Posted by Crg3400  [View Original Post]
    I have to disagree to you on no special body feature. For 35 she has an ass that most 20 yo's wish they could have
    If this is the girl with the small tramp stamp tattoo, then I agree she has a hell of an ass.

  14. #11808
    Quote Originally Posted by Crg3400  [View Original Post]
    I have to disagree to you on no special body feature. For 35 she has an ass that most 20 yo's wish they could have
    If this is the same girl with the small tramp stamp tattoo on her lower back, she has one hell of a body for being 35.

  15. #11807

    Getting Sucked into and Getting out of a Steetwalker's World

    We all know how to get sucked into the world of a streetwalker, many of us have done it. It's as easy as falling off a log. BBB and Punished just described some of the heartaches and issues very nicely.

    I have two suggestions of how to get out of her world. First, is to plead poverty when she calls: "Oh, baby, I want to see you so bad but I just paid rent and I don't have money to put gas in the car to come see you. This car is too expensive, I need to sell it and buy a POS." Even if you are filthy rich these girls can related to being broke. Don't ever say that you can't spend money today because you need to pay rent (or whatever) tomorrow, that is admitting you have money today and she wants it. Second, you need to convince her that she can get money from other men. I once drove a girl to her client so she could do a BJ for the $20 she needed to buy her meds, she would have been really pissed if she knew I had plenty of money in the trunk when I dropped her off. When she talks about other men paying her money, be supportive of her servicing that man."Wow, it sounds like he is rich, you should give him a call. I wish I had that much money."

    Once she believes that you are broke she won't have any reason to call you.

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