"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Spitfire** · 09-20-12 22:11

Hi Everyone,

It's been a while since I've posted, I'm happily on month 10 with my one and only SB. However, I had introduced a friend to this world. He tried both SD4Me and SA. He fell victim to the 'send me something up front' scam. I had warned him against sending money before meeting, but he let little head do his thinking. This is the first one he had even corresponded with! I'm passing on the profile IDs involved so that none of you fall victim.

SA. Profile = 1185001.

SD4Me. Profile = 2393777.

Good luck and I hope you're all doing well!

**EuroInCincy** · 09-20-12 16:52

Ok so I have had this good 18 yr old (SB-perfect) now for close to 9 monhts, very eager and very accommodating. But she went of to college 3 hrs away, so the visits became quite infrequent.

I had let my SA membership expire, yes I got the occasional winks, emails but after looking to the profiles I kept saying nah not worth it. Until until about a week ago. I got an email and I though ok nice. But not worth it. Then 2 days a later another email from the same one, locally, cute, right age, right words in her profile. So I decided to renew, and started the pursuit. All went very smooth, but she kept insisting on only email. Should have been red flag 1. Which 21 yr old does NOT want to text. Then after a bit I was able to get her to yahoo messenger for a bit more interactive conversations, still she had every point, quality I needed. I asked for a few more pics and I got 2 more. So we set up a coffee date. I go to the location, she is not there after 15 minutes, and I get a text. Ok must be her, no. It was SB-perfect texting me "oh your new SB won't be showing up since she does not like a guy who cheats "

WOW so SB-perfect had gotten too attached.

**JoesParty** · 09-19-12 10:17

The first interview with a HYCB was a no-go yesterday, as she failed to show. I confirmed the day and time, checked that she was on her way, and she still stood me up. Called me two hours after our meeting time with the lame "I lost track of time and didn't answer your calls because I didn't have my phone near me" excuse."But you can drive an hour to come see me still tonight."

Bullshit. You lost your chance, sweetie. I have zero tolerance for girls who waste my time. If there's one thing I've learned in my time in the sugar bowl, it's that there are dozens of other eligible ladies willing to take the place of the one who just doesn't get it.

**F Scott** · 09-18-12 22:21

Originally Posted by EasyGoingJ [View Original Post]

Good idea Scott,

Her profile number is 623953, I will update if she changes or deletes. I treat my babies well and will not tolerate out and out thievery or other bad behavior that I associate more with a BP ad or a desperate garden tool with a bad habit. I would have probably made a gift to her if she told me she needed it so badly, I am fortunate and don't mind sharing what I have.

We all need to work together with both the good and the bad. Thanks to all my brothers on here, I've been playing for many years but have learned many valuable things reading here, wish I had more positive experiences to share.

J

Easy,

When I plugged the number into the SA search function, I almost fell off my chair! I have business that takes me often down to Asheville, and Susie is someone that I had spent a fair amount of time emailing back and forth with, in anticipation of meeting up with her on my next visit. She then fell off the radar, but my comment that I was immune to someone in your neck of the woods was clearly a little naive. Thanks, my brother, for the invaluable intel. I see she no longer is listing in NC, but I will scrub her from my cell and contact list to make sure I don't accidentally contact her in the future. Again, a request to the brotherhood - out these bad babies with details. We all recognize this is a different league in terms of costs and rewards, and I am guessing none of us want to lose sugar needlessly.

I am currently back in my favorite city in the south, having just driven the 11 hours it takes to get down here, and am looking forward to a week full of work, billable hours, and babies.

As always, keep up the good work, and don't forget to write.

Scott

**SubCmdr** · 09-18-12 12:53

Originally Posted by JoesParty [View Original Post]

All in all, she's an excellent candidate to keep on the roster for future occasional visits. If I'm going to "Stand and take my grade" as the Cmdr would say, I'd give myself a sold B. Hot MILF, sex on the first date, prospect for future romps at her place, but overpaid.

Joe,

My man! You caught the 3rd wire!

Your approach: Solid; Working the cougar angle eh? I like it!

Her appearance: 'This woman is hot'

Assessment of Nando class: Dead on.

Move to the FC on the first date: Impressive, plus bonus points for no discussion of sugar.

Sexual performance: 'After that, it was ON'

Sugar Amount: So you may have outbid yourself. You wanted to see her again. The sexual performance was solid. And you got an invitation to return with her hosting. That places her at ease, improves the quality of the experience, and is going to lower your CPO. So, put that extra sugar that you could have saved into intangibles / goodwill and roll with it.

You are too hard on yourself: A-

SubCmdr out

**JoesParty** · 09-18-12 12:23

Originally Posted by Exacta Picker [View Original Post]

Hi guys. I'm from the 757 but used to read the Richmond board as I got up there occasionally. I used to read this particular forum right after it started but it was, well, moribund as far as useful information. But I'm bored today and decided to check it out again. Holy sh*t! I am impressed! I'm a bit of a SD myself at the moment, having become the go-to for a local 22 year old who can't seem to hook up with anyone but me locally as she doesn't have a place. Plus, she's not exactly what I'm looking for and I like variety.

At any rate, I've been trying figure out what SA is? I've RTFFed but no one has referred to the site by name, and it must work as you guys are mining the hell out of it. I tried AFF and POF without any success, waste of $$. Thanks in advance for the info.

And, SubCmdr, your posts have me RTFLMAO.

Welcome back, EP. Believe it or not, this is the first thing I read every day. It's always full of info, and even in slow times, there's a laugh or two to be had.

SA = seeking arrangement. Com (remove spaces)

There are other sites, of course, and they tend to be regional at times. But SA I think is the largest.

**Exacta Picker** · 09-18-12 12:16

Hi guys. I'm from the 757 but used to read the Richmond board as I got up there occasionally. I used to read this particular forum right after it started but it was, well, moribund as far as useful information. But I'm bored today and decided to check it out again. Holy sh*t! I am impressed! I'm a bit of a SD myself at the moment, having become the go-to for a local 22 year old who can't seem to hook up with anyone but me locally as she doesn't have a place. Plus, she's not exactly what I'm looking for and I like variety.

At any rate, I've been trying figure out what SA is? I've RTFFed but no one has referred to the site by name, and it must work as you guys are mining the hell out of it. I tried AFF and POF without any success, waste of $$. Thanks in advance for the info.

And, SubCmdr, your posts have me RTFLMAO.

**EasyGoingJ** · 09-18-12 11:55

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Not that it effects me, since I am in Chicago, but I think some of our bretheren would appreciate an exact profile # on this bad, bad baby. I am pretty sure this is not against Jackson's rules, and it would be extremely useful to our local chapter.

Peace,

Scott

Good idea Scott,

Her profile number is 623953, I will update if she changes or deletes. I treat my babies well and will not tolerate out and out thievery or other bad behavior that I associate more with a BP ad or a desperate garden tool with a bad habit. I would have probably made a gift to her if she told me she needed it so badly, I am fortunate and don't mind sharing what I have.

We all need to work together with both the good and the bad. Thanks to all my brothers on here, I've been playing for many years but have learned many valuable things reading here, wish I had more positive experiences to share.

J

**JoesParty** · 09-18-12 10:39

With the ATF serving an indefinite period in the penalty box for playing me like a chump lately, I decided to fire up the SA account and start fishing again. I still have my nice 18yo HYB in my back pocket, but I crave variety. I've therefore set up a series of interviews this week to replenish my little black book, and, with some luck, find my next favorite.

Interview #1 was last evening after work. At 43, she's the oldest Pot I've met. She sounded nice on the phone, and from what I could glean from our conversation, she is divorced, has kids, and a stable career. She only had one pic on SA, but it was nice. Definitely MILF material. We met at the bar of a casual chain restaurant for an introductory drink.

This woman is hot. Keep in mind, gents, that I'm mid 30s, so 43 theoretically is at the edge of my comfort zone. But she's slim, toned, and has great features. Needless to say, the interview started well.

We talked for about an hour. She does seem to have her shit together. She says she normally trolls the legit dating sites but that she isn't looking for a relationship now, just fun. We never discussed specific sugar, although she dropped lots of hints that she expected to be well compensated for her time. At this point, I had to decide whether I should take a risk, and if so, for how much, or just cut her loose after the M&G.

I e-mailed a trusted brother but unfortunately did not hear back in time. In any event, I decided to take the plunge. We went to a hotel down the street, got another drink at the hotel bar, and headed upstairs. This is the "first" for me: the first time I've gone to the FC on a first interview.

After that, it was ON. She quickly shed her clothes and told me to take off my pants. Excellent; I like a woman who takes charge. She showed me a good time, and after I returned the favor, I knew she was enjoying herself by the large wet spot on the bed. Multiple positions ensued, she enjoyed herself a couple more times, and I had a big finish.

I decided to slip her sugar at the high end of my scale, because I would like to see her again. Turns out, I outbid myself (I know, I know) because she called almost immediately after we were headed our separate ways to tell me she had a great time and looks forward to our next meeting, which she offered to host at her place.

All in all, she's an excellent candidate to keep on the roster for future occasional visits. If I'm going to "Stand and take my grade" as the Cmdr would say, I'd give myself a sold B. Hot MILF, sex on the first date, prospect for future romps at her place, but overpaid.

Interview #2 is set for this evening with a HYCB; Interview #3 is Friday with a 27yo girl-next-door type. It's a tough job, but someone has to do it.

**SubCmdr** · 09-18-12 04:54

Originally Posted by SubCmdr [View Original Post]

Her friend is 19, student, blonde and hot.

Blonde is on SA. Profile 1154604 Name: Mary Location: Columbia, MD. I cannot find Brunette's profile.

I think it is good policy to out bad babies. The only problem with profile #'s is that they can cancel them and and resurface.

SubCmdr out

**F Scott** · 09-17-12 18:51

Originally Posted by EasyGoingJ [View Original Post]

I guess she burned everyone she could here in Charlottesville, see my cash and dash report below, I noticed she has moved her profile location to Richmond so watch out guys. Very promising talker, but desperate like someone on BP with a bad habit. Her profile pic is an overhead shot of a girl in a bikini with a blurred face. Careful guys. May be working as waitress, too heavy and clumsy to dance she told me, at paper moon with name Ginnie.

Not that it effects me, since I am in Chicago, but I think some of our bretheren would appreciate an exact profile # on this bad, bad baby. I am pretty sure this is not against Jackson's rules, and it would be extremely useful to our local chapter.

Peace,

Scott

**RiverCity2011** · 09-17-12 13:46

Ha, I see where she writes that she "loves Spankings" in her profile. Nice!

I would love to know anything about Anne in Glen Allen,

Profile Number. 860835 (Sugar Baby. F)

Age 41 from Glen Allen, United States.

Username:

Anne.

City / State:

Glen Allen, Virginia.

Country:

United States.

Age:

41 years old.

Height:

1. 63 meters (5' 4")

Body Type:

Slim.

Originally Posted by EasyGoingJ [View Original Post]

I guess she burned everyone she could here in Charlottesville, see my cash and dash report below, I noticed she has moved her profile location to Richmond so watch out guys. Very promising talker, but desperate like someone on BP with a bad habit. Her profile pic is an overhead shot of a girl in a bikini with a blurred face. Careful guys. May be working as waitress, too heavy and clumsy to dance she told me, at paper moon with name Ginnie.

**EuroInCincy** · 09-17-12 12:39

A cute young one willing to try everything and all she wants, is some drinks, dinner a stay in a hotel, and won't blink if anybody looks and you introduce her as "my wife' or "my mistress approved by my wife" to shut the looks up.

Who thinks you have dome more than she deserves by finding another female for a night, so she canner her first female-female play.

They are there, just need to go through a whole fleet of nando 1, 2 etc.

**EasyGoingJ** · 09-17-12 09:59

I guess she burned everyone she could here in Charlottesville, see my cash and dash report below, I noticed she has moved her profile location to Richmond so watch out guys. Very promising talker, but desperate like someone on BP with a bad habit. Her profile pic is an overhead shot of a girl in a bikini with a blurred face. Careful guys. May be working as waitress, too heavy and clumsy to dance she told me, at paper moon with name Ginnie.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-17-12 03:16

Originally Posted by FeelGoodMd [View Original Post]

Sometimes our reach exceeds our grasp, and that was what happened to me on Friday. I had a double header lined up, one with a 19 year old who turned out to be a Nando 1, and another with a 22 year old Nando 3 who likes it rough and, relatively, cheap. These were both first dates, with Nando 1 suppossed to go down at 1, and Nando 3 at 4 on Friday afternoon.

Long story short, I'd been flirting back an forth with Nando 1 for about a week, and we agreed on Thursday to meet Friday afternoon. That morning, she sends the "how much" email, and I told her I could provide $, with an extra. 2 to cover her gas. She writes back to inform me that she never meets for less than $$$, but being a longtime follower of this forum I know that is BS. I tell her that I could meet in the middle at $$ (thinking with my little head, because her pictures were incredibly hot). She agrees to this (a little too quickly) , and by 11, time and place are locked in.

I get to the FC and check-in at 12:55, feeling frustrated to be so rushed. Not to worry. At 1:15 I get a text that she's "heading over," which concerns me because I was downtown and she was in Ashland (a solid 20 miles, for you non-Richmonders). I stew a little, and at 1:50 I finally get the knock on the door. She comes in, we small talk for a few minutes (since we'd never met before) , and then get down to business. We make out for several minutes (I just love kissing a new girl) and then she goes downtown. A few more minutes of head (I mean. 20 or 30 minutes. Yeah, that's it) and I CIM. She swallows (points for her) and we play with each other's bodies before I return the favor.

After I give her a couple Os, I hit the head and go to pour us some more wine, but when I come back. She's getting dressed! We've been together MAYBE 30 minutes at this point, but she says her GF is waiting in the lobby and has to get back to babysit her (the GF's) nephew. I'm disappointed (I was planning to be with her until at least 3) , but obviously I'm not going to prevent her from leaving if she wants, so I go to my bag and give her $.

She gets pretty upset, and says we agreed on $$. I acknowledge that, but also point out that we'd agreed on 1:00, she'd been with me for less time than she'd been late, and I still have at least one more O left in me that I was hoping to enjoy. She says that "wasn't the deal," but I tell her firmly that she needs to go. After she leaves the room I hastily make an exit out the side of the hotel (I don't like that her friend is waiting downstairs).

I get to my car and leave, then pull into a restaurant a few blocks away to check my phone and confirm my next date. I have a text from Nando 3 that her job is keeping her until 6, and she's very sorry but she has to cancel. FML.

So, did I screw Nando 1 over, or was I too generous to even give her $. I am having a hard time with this, as she did show up and I at least got some relief. However, I don't think anyone (especially not any SD's) believes that half an hour and some head is what an "arrangement" is all about. Especially for a SB who "never meets for less than $$$."

I'd love some opinions, especially from Mandy, about how I handled this and how I might have handled it better.

Dr. Feelgood

I go for the shy but out control slutty girls. I have a lot a misses. But one out of 5 is a repeater. I only pay $ and do get a lot of turndows. But I also get 2 new girls a week that have agreed to enough terms for a first date. In a year thats a 100 girls. Thats like saying you got 20 regulars if you want them. So one bad experience just put one step closer to a good one. And of course the good ones get better. Somtimes. LOL