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  1. #633
    Stoner, were they all 200 for hour? Seems like a lot, but also. They are stunning. Would be interested to hear what the circumstance was that you met the other two. Were they in the next room? Did they watch? Group rates?

  2. #632

    Thank you

    I don't like being called a moron or a retard, but I asked for opinions so I guess I have to accept it. Truth is, I'm not some newbie who just had his first bad experience. I've been doing this for years. I've been robbed many ways, including by knife point, and by gun point. That kind of shit teaches you a lot of lessons, and will teach you to wise up if you want to continue playing this game. I've mongered in many states and several countries, sampling streetwalkers to massage parlors to straight-up brothels. I'm still alive and disease-free, so I must have learned something.

    I'm surprised by how many of you are sympathetic to the escort. Had you been ripped off by her, I doubt you would feel the same way. Maybe if I had not done anything, one of you would have had the pleasure of being ripped off by her, too.

    I'm not sure the front desk did anything, and I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. My intention was only to cause this thief to rethink her scam, and to consider actually trying to please her next customer instead of ripping him off. And please, of course I didn't use my regular phone number.

    Good luck fellow mongers, and remember the next time you get robbed - Nobody here wants to hear about your stupidity. Besides, you don't really care anyway, it's all part of the hobby.

  3. #631
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    Posts: 1659

    Bravo

    Quote Originally Posted by Glowbal  [View Original Post]
    Street Wise is a moron. The front desk is usually in on the deal especially if the trick is a regular and a pimp is involved. I guess if you not married, not employed, and don't mind being a pinata in jail, getting revenge on a pro like that is cool. Me I'd just write it off as another grand experience of mongering, learn and get the * out of the situation as fast as possible. If your cool they are normally cool. If they're whacked it generally shows right away. Throw a 20 down and get out. You have to see the humor in it and move on.
    What he said! Nicely stated, Glowbal. (I read that after I posted my last little preachy bit)

  4. #630
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    Posts: 1659

    One More Thing

    Just to tell you you should throw out the cell phone you used. Depending on what no-tell it was you visited, if the front end person was non-caucasion, they were probably willing or otherwise in on the deal. Both the pimp and the no-tell have your number. And, if the pimp is involved with any of the four major Hartford or Springfield gangs, you are on one serious shit-list right now. Throw that phone in the Connecticut river. It is very likely that when you call the next sex worker indentured to the gangs, you will be greeted by a few tough mother-fuckers looking to teach you a lesson in revenge. It is highly likely that the police never came to the no-tell at all. Shit, check the municipalities arrest and call log and see if ther ever were notified about your warning. All you may have accomplished is to put yourself on a hit-list.

    The hobby is (as Stoner said) buyer beware. Whatever they taught you at Walmart or Costco about customer service does not apply to the hobby.

  5. #629
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    Posts: 2024

    MYA from Cali

    I saw the pics, and I started dreaming big dreams on this one. Real exotic mix on this one...so I had to sample.
    No games or upsells. Decent time. Cute face. Her tits are indeed fun size. Like itty bitty, and barely a titty.
    All covered, no kissing, so no GFE by any man's stretch of the word.

    YMMV on this one. I did enjoy, but lack of GFE = "robotic and waste of time" for me...so it's always a deal breaker for me.

    Can confirm that the pics are real on:
    http://hartford.backpage.com/FemaleE...irl-23/5252898

    However, they make her seem taller. Thats not the case. Her ass is also not as large as it used to be. (Thats actually a negative for me).

    She introduced me to her hot looking friends:
    http://hartford.backpage.com/FemaleE...dlt-18/5141596
    http://hartford.backpage.com/FemaleE...res-20/5252781

    Can confirm the pics are real on all them both, but had no time to sample. In person, I was impressed enough with their looks to sample without hesitating. However, I'd be surprised if there is any form of GFE between any of them...but for those that is not a deal breaker, then you are good to go.

  6. #628

    Well spoken words of wisdom

    Well spoken words of wisdom Stoner, and words for all of us to remember!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoner  [View Original Post]
    What Garthy said is very true.

    In all of my years at the game, I've never been given my money back. Whether scammed or merely dissatisfied. Shit happens. Sometimes I've been so dissapointed that I ask my self "Why do I put myself through this shit?"

    Truth is, we all scam. You scam. I scam. Everyone is looking to get more out of doing less.

    Things are also not as they might seem. Had a bad scenario recently...

  7. #627
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    Posts: 2024

    When did the hobby stop being Buyers Beware?

    What Garthy said is very true.

    In all of my years at the game, I've never been given my money back. Whether scammed or merely dissatisfied. Shit happens. Sometimes I've been so dissapointed that I ask my self "Why do I put myself through this shit?"

    Truth is, we all scam. You scam. I scam. Everyone is looking to get more out of doing less.

    Things are also not as they might seem. Had a bad scenario recently where the provider complained I was working her too damn hard. Even said I was taking too long. Until I had her check the time and realize that I'd been there for only half the time I donated. I could tell she was embarrassed and thought I'd do a horrible review on her or whatever. She (half-heartedly) offered to give me the money back. I considered it. Then declined. I concluded affairs amicably, we talked, she apologized and I realized she had some real problems going on that probably had little to do with me. I just hugged her while she sobbed a bit. I have no angst with her, no desire to cause her ill because I was completely dissatisfied. For me, this is a hobby, an experience. I've got a regular hot looking latina stripper for my ATF right now. Damn good, sweet bod, intelligent, (did I mention she's a a good fuck). Yet I wanted some variety? Cause I am a hobbyist. Can't settle for one, in the long run, for too long.

    For this provider however, its not a hobby. Its a way to make ends meet when you have little to no other way to go. I felt compassion for her. She obviously needed the cash a lot more than I did.

    Its a good thing when both parties find satisfaction in the deal, but truth is...that is the exception and not the rule. One or both sides are only getting some satisfaction out of the deal, rarely do both parties feel a complete sense of satisfaction out of the deal. CT is actually a fairly friendly hobbying area. In the city...the game is cutthroat and brutal. The scams are bigger and bolder...calling the front desk won't do you any good at all.

    Here is a truth to consider: If you are hobbying with money you shouldn't be hobbying with and can't afford the loss...DONT! You need to switch your game up. DON'T experiment with cheap providers. You may have to settle with well reviewed consistent providers, or only choose providers that someone else has reviewed. That review (whether good or bad!) is worth real currency in my opinion.

    (Part of the reason why its good for new folks to offer reviews and at least TOFFT before asking tons of questions and begging for hand outs! Contribute!)

    Its like buying a $100 cigar you've never tasted before. If it pains you too greatly to burn $100 bill, then don't buy a cigar you've never tasted. Stick with the ones you like and know. You can't go to a smoke shop and return the butt of a $100 cigar and say it wasn't satisfying, you want your money back. He'll kick you out of his shop. Would complaining to the owner of the strip mall where this shop just happens to be located make great sense?

  8. #626
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    Street Wise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garthy  [View Original Post]
    If (and only if) she were an independent provider would you have intimidated her or possibly taught her a lesson. She was not. She was a hard-core drug addict who has a pimp who already beats and rapes her on a regular basis. He will turn your "revenge" on her. He will let her sit in jail until she has serious withdrawal. Then he bail her out and beat her mercilessly (in some fashion that leaves little marks, like hitting her with a pillow-sack full of soap bars). Then he will sodomize her. Then he will explain how much her bail "cost him" and threaten her kids or family until her debt is "paid off."

    You are an ass-hole. Getting revenge would have involved somehow either staking the place out or getting in touch with the pimp and putting a. 45 slug in his worthless ass.

    You just caused a girl who is already a victim to be victimized more.

    DON'T go with providers who use pimps. It makes drug dealers and organized criminals wealthy and enslaves the girls.

    You are a fool. Sorry to be so blunt with you, but you should at least stop kidding yourself that you took revenge on a victim.

    Also, what location was this because I want to stay away from it (as it is likely to be the subject of a police sting in the near future because of your call).
    Street Wise is a moron. The front desk is usually in on the deal especially if the trick is a regular and a pimp is involved. I guess if you not married, not employed, and don't mind being a pinata in jail, getting revenge on a pro like that is cool. Me I'd just write it off as another grand experience of mongering, learn and get the * out of the situation as fast as possible. If your cool they are normally cool. If they're whacked it generally shows right away. Throw a 20 down and get out. You have to see the humor in it and move on.

  9. #625

    I'm with Garthy.

    Ditto. The pics should've been your first clue, not to mention a phone number search. We've all been ripped off.

  10. #624
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    Posts: 1659

    Nope. You're Retarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetWise  [View Original Post]
    The more I think about it, the more I feel justified in doing what I did. In fact, I wish I had thought of threatening to call the front desk if she didn't give me my money while I was still in the room with her. Then maybe I would have gotten my money back, and she'd still be sleeping in the same room.

    I don't think it's wrong to have some leverage against getting ripped off. I don't think it's noble in any way to just let yourself get ripped off, and walk away with your tail between your legs. Wouldn't that just encourage these scammers to keep doing the same thing?
    If (and only if) she were an independent provider would you have intimidated her or possibly taught her a lesson. She was not. She was a hard-core drug addict who has a pimp who already beats and rapes her on a regular basis. He will turn your "revenge" on her. He will let her sit in jail until she has serious withdrawal. Then he bail her out and beat her mercilessly (in some fashion that leaves little marks, like hitting her with a pillow-sack full of soap bars). Then he will sodomize her. Then he will explain how much her bail "cost him" and threaten her kids or family until her debt is "paid off."

    You are an ass-hole. Getting revenge would have involved somehow either staking the place out or getting in touch with the pimp and putting a. 45 slug in his worthless ass.

    You just caused a girl who is already a victim to be victimized more.

    DON'T go with providers who use pimps. It makes drug dealers and organized criminals wealthy and enslaves the girls.

    You are a fool. Sorry to be so blunt with you, but you should at least stop kidding yourself that you took revenge on a victim.

    Also, what location was this because I want to stay away from it (as it is likely to be the subject of a police sting in the near future because of your call).

  11. #623

    Leverage

    The more I think about it, the more I feel justified in doing what I did. In fact, I wish I had thought of threatening to call the front desk if she didn't give me my money while I was still in the room with her. Then maybe I would have gotten my money back, and she'd still be sleeping in the same room.

    I don't think it's wrong to have some leverage against getting ripped off. I don't think it's noble in any way to just let yourself get ripped off, and walk away with your tail between your legs. Wouldn't that just encourage these scammers to keep doing the same thing?

  12. #622
    Quote Originally Posted by Willy O  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I would say you were an asshole for turning her in. Revenge is an attitude that never works. I would say count your losses and move on, but let the buyer beware. I'm a nice guy too, but reality has a different fate.
    Ditto. Yes you got ripped off but you could've at least beat off on her and left if you wanted too. Bad move bro, perhaps the front desk turned a blind eye, now maybe not anymore.

  13. #621

    I "ve done the same

    Quote Originally Posted by Willy O  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I would say you were an asshole for turning her in. Revenge is an attitude that never works. I would say count your losses and move on, but let the buyer beware. I'm a nice guy too, but reality has a different fate.
    While I understand where Willy O is coming from.

    Several years ago at a upscale hotel in Stamford.

    I encounter 2 Brasilians they pull a straight up rip off.

    Right in front of them I call the front desk. I laid it on with front desk manager.

    Long story short, they were packing up right in front of me. I have say it felt good. These 2 were pure thiefs in panties and made no bones about it.

    This is the game we play. And with that you have to take all that goes with it. The art of the "Bail" 101. All of us need to take a refresher course in that class.

  14. #620
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    Posts: 1213
    Quote Originally Posted by StreetWise  [View Original Post]
    OK, so if you read my previous report, you'll see that I fell for a bait and switch scam. Furthermore, the ad stated that the girl was GFE, and she absolutely was not. She was a junkie that was high as a kite and barely used 2 fingers to attempt a HE. No BBBJ, as I've come to expect when a girl advertises as GFE. Cost me $150, no nut, and she practically fell asleep during. I told her that I wasn't happy, and that the ad was a lie, and she said to take it up with the woman I spoke to on the phone.

    I left the room, and thought about what she said. Should I call that "dispatcher" and complain? I didn't think it would help because the operation was a scam, and I'm sure they weren't concerned with "customer service." I've been ripped off a few times over the years, and I've never done anything about. I've always figured that it was somehow partly my fault for being stupid. This time, I didn't feel the same way. I'm an honest customer. I'm nice, and I don't deserve to be ripped off.

    So this time, I decided to take revenge. I called the hotel, and I asked for the room that the girl was staying in. She answered the phone, and I told her who I was and that I wanted my money back. She was a little shocked, and she said she didn't know what I was talking about. I told her not to play dumb, she ripped me off and I wanted my money back or I was going to tell the front desk what she was doing. There was moment of silence, and then she hung up on me. So, I called the front desk and told them they had a prostitute in that room, and that it was making the other customers uncomfortable.

    I feel a little bad about what I did, because it's really the fault of her "agency." That girl probably has a tough life, and I made it tougher without punished the people who are really running the scam. I'm curious what you guys think. Was I an asshole, or do you think my revenge was justified? Do you have a better way of getting revenge? Or better yet, have you gotten your money back without having to fight a pimp?
    Yes, I would say you were an asshole for turning her in. Revenge is an attitude that never works. I would say count your losses and move on, but let the buyer beware. I'm a nice guy too, but reality has a different fate.

  15. #619

    Revenge

    OK, so if you read my previous report, you'll see that I fell for a bait and switch scam. Furthermore, the ad stated that the girl was GFE, and she absolutely was not. She was a junkie that was high as a kite and barely used 2 fingers to attempt a HE. No BBBJ, as I've come to expect when a girl advertises as GFE. Cost me $150, no nut, and she practically fell asleep during. I told her that I wasn't happy, and that the ad was a lie, and she said to take it up with the woman I spoke to on the phone.

    I left the room, and thought about what she said. Should I call that "dispatcher" and complain? I didn't think it would help because the operation was a scam, and I'm sure they weren't concerned with "customer service." I've been ripped off a few times over the years, and I've never done anything about. I've always figured that it was somehow partly my fault for being stupid. This time, I didn't feel the same way. I'm an honest customer. I'm nice, and I don't deserve to be ripped off.

    So this time, I decided to take revenge. I called the hotel, and I asked for the room that the girl was staying in. She answered the phone, and I told her who I was and that I wanted my money back. She was a little shocked, and she said she didn't know what I was talking about. I told her not to play dumb, she ripped me off and I wanted my money back or I was going to tell the front desk what she was doing. There was moment of silence, and then she hung up on me. So, I called the front desk and told them they had a prostitute in that room, and that it was making the other customers uncomfortable.

    I feel a little bad about what I did, because it's really the fault of her "agency." That girl probably has a tough life, and I made it tougher without punished the people who are really running the scam. I'm curious what you guys think. Was I an asshole, or do you think my revenge was justified? Do you have a better way of getting revenge? Or better yet, have you gotten your money back without having to fight a pimp?

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