Raven just called me to tell me she has gotten her tongue pierced and wanted to know if I would like to try it out! I told her ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY! But it'll have to wait till next week.
Started on conkling at 2:30pm Sunday 19th. Saw the usual big blonde chick about 5'9 pretty big gut hair above the shoulder. She was wearing black miniskirt and brown top. She was with another skinny older WSW; face messed up about 5 feet tall.
Headed over to Wilkens loop and saw about 5-6 WSW. There was one in a pink dress looks like she uses meth. Also a green top and jean short about 40 years old 5'1-5'2 maybe older WSW but looked healthy almost picked up but decided not to. What really sparked this report is I saw this sitting on the steps by the light at Wilkesn and Catherine. Looked very very nice! Anyone know who she is?
The Senator is not on Harford Road. And where / what is Tony's?
Sorry, ithat's not the Senator, it's the VFW that looks like an "old-timey" theater by Oak Forest Drive. Tony's is a strip club at E Monument and N Kresson, one block off of 40. It's like a slightly classier Sherries.
I finally caught up with Kiara today, what a gem. This girl is a beautiful little spinner, plus I find Pilipinos to be the most accommodating providers in the world, Kiara is half Pilipino.
I would like to personally thank Cls9637 for hooking up a veteran monger, I have been in the Stan for the last 2 years and I salute you Sir, I owe you a beer! I have been posting on Iternationalsexguide.info on the Dubai forum, but it is good to be home on R&R. Perhaps time for an RT?
Here are a few pictures of Kiara they speak for themselves, Pics don't do this girl justice. She is easy going, accommodating and just a nice person to be around. I picked her up on time as scheduled and did not have to play R U A Cop this just puts her above SW status.
At first, I wanted to defend Crofton. But, he's doing just fine holding his own. I'm going to rally around his idea but would like to put a different spin on it. This argument comes up about as often as the BB argument. The supposed commonality between the two arguments is one monger doing it can affect the many on the forum. I don't believe that particular line of logic in regards to money, though, and I'll get to why. A member once told me 'You get what you pay for. ' And that's mostly true.
There are over 270, 000 members on the USAG. On our very cute little Baltimore SW thread, there are roughly 350+ daily unique visitors (this is going on picture view counts). In the past year, there have been around 4 members (including me) who have openly stated on the forum that they have paid more than standard tuition for a particular service at a given time. I know of 2 members who customarily pay more for service (and they definitively get better service). So, that's about 6 verified out of about 350 Baltimore mongers who do it occasionally. That's less than 2 percent. And that 350 'aggregate' number is just the mongers who are on this board, who knows how many mongers are actually out there. But, let's stick to 350.
From what many girls have told me, they see somewhere between 2 and 20 mongers a day to make that $1 to $4 (above $2. 2 and you're already having a VERY good day for most girls). On the low average, (and we'll use that as our control number because there's not a girl on the fucking planet who would rather be out there doing this shit for a moment longer than they must) a girl might meet around 5 mongers / day or have 35 'sessions' a week. Of those, one monger MIGHT be someone like Crofton. And of that engagement, the Crofton type person MIGHT be willing to go above standard tuition. That means, on her end, she MIGHT have a 2% chance of meeting someone who MIGHT spend some serious duckets on her. That's a lot of fucking maybes, I mean 'mights'.
We lowly cheap bastards are part of the 98 percent. This particular 98% control the market, gentlemen. The 2% couldn't possibly see enough girls enough times enough days out of the week to make a noticeable dent in the entirety of the market culture. If each of those 6 guys saw a working girl from each fucking loop everyday paying $1. ++ for the next month, you would have an argument. Firstly, take me out of that equation because I ain't doing it. Secondly, they would all be broke as shit. But because of the forum's 'standard', we've had an absolute lock on the market for WELL OVER A FUCKING DECADE. There is no argument against that, gentleman. Not a fucking one. It is a monger controlled market. We ARE the market. To say otherwise is to cling to a poor logic slippery slope argument. We have verifiably kept the prices the same for 12 YEARS. You're worried about Crofton? Really?
Crofton, do what you do, man.
Let's go for a different angled argument. And it will seemingly defend Chrissy here (and it should, really). Do you think that someone like Kiara is going to take $.2 from you (this is a general forum 'you') to do the same beautiful stuff she does to me for what I pay her? You're out of your tiny little head if you think that. And she LIKES me.
For people who don't know how to negotiate at all, when you meet a SW for the first time, do not open with, 'Hey what's on the menu? ' or 'How much do you charge for _____? ' You immediately give away your opening bargaining position to them, and for what. For nothing. You gave them control of the conversation for zero gain. If I meet someone new, I say this, 'What will a $.2 spot get me? ' When I receive the answer, I move negotiations from that starting point. If their response is, 'I usually get ___ for ____' and it's too high, then I offer them to leave my car. And I stay within my budget just fine. I drive by girls that have too high of a monetary expectation and they know it. If I pick them up anyway, I tell them immediately what my concerns are. If they push the issue and get snotty and say something like, 'Why can't you go to an ATM? ' I counter with, 'Why the fuck can't you? '
Draw the line and stand by it, gentlemen. If you can't do that, well, I don't know what to say to you. I will tell you that it isn't Crofton's fault.
Punished, MsExsw is not here for the same reason as us. Read her posts. Some of us have seen her in a biblical sense. Neither Doe nor BK were being nice at all. I'm surprised some of the Super Seniors haven't buried them yet for that faux pas. There was no attempt to mitigate bad feelings regarding shitty providers or attempt to see her reasoning. They just went after her as a person. Guranteed, neither has ever dated her. They should reserve that vitriole to thieving / lying SWs that they know who deserve it. She has EVERY reason to be upset. Though normally good posters, DoeSurfer and BKMason's posts were very uncool. There's a reason there's a filter on the forum for calling women derogatory names. Attacking an ex SW for giving us insight into the girls' minds is invaluable and I, for one, thoroughly appreciate her posts.
Chrissy, you go girl.
On a side note, I know I'm guilty of writing weighty tomes but there's no need to quote the ENTIRE post if you have a two sentence retort. Delete some of the text of the quote. People can easily reference the link to the quote just fine. We're ending up with pages with 3 posts for crying out loud.
Everyone knows that me a Rizalboy usually do not see eye to eye and that is fine. But this post that he made is absolutely correct and it should be noted that this is the perfect example of the mindset that we should have on here. You have some Senior Members that thing that because they came to the site first that newer members were not mongering before reaching this site that Jackson made for us to use as a tool to share and gather intel. Yes Croftn33 is hammering away on the girls as we all are but he is very selective and when he finds something that he wants, he puts forth the extra money so that he can be first in line all the time when the calls comes in or out to him to be serviced. The girls know that this is just a preferred client. In everyday life we all get what we pay for and he is getting what he wants to pay for. PERIOD Is some of you that are hacking at the fact, then pay more or just pay your normal tuition and be on the list with everyone else. But Crofton and a few others prefer to be on the list of first callers for service and there is nothing wrong with that. These girls have some knowledge of the game and know that they are not going to get the same tuition from monger to monger. That is life and they know it. We all know that each monger is not going to treat the same girl the same just because of our makeup or personality. That should be pretty much common sense. The fact that anyone has the right to tell Crofton that he has to pay a certain amount because they do not want him to set the bar to high for SWers is just stupid. He is not setting the bar as Rizalboy stated so gracefully in his statements above. He just stated the same facts as I when it comes to SWers. The prices change as the volume of mongers increase or decrease. It is all a game. Crofton is just playing it the way that he sees it and we should respect that. Now coming to this senior status member thing. If you take that senior status so seriously, then it only shows that your life outside this forum is very dismal. Seniors on this forum are only here to guide and help but not to tell anyone how to spend there money when it comes to a certain situation. Rizalboy gave a great example of how he does it but that does not mean that his way is the only formula to get to the same equations end. Tactics come in play all the time and the timing of these tactics come when it is presented to the monger at that moment. If you can get a great deal then good job. If you have to pay more for a service then that is the price of the game. If you do not want to pay more then tell her to get out the car and continue on with the hunt. Some of you that are talking shit to Crofton are loosing the point of this forum. It is not to dictate what you will do but give suggestions of what you consider a idea from mongering in the past. Now if that person decides not to follow your example, it is not for you to stomp like a child because you wanted to be the captain of the 3rd grade kickball team. It is you as an adult to just look the other way and say, well if that is what he wants to do.
Happy Hunting to all. For some, get a damn life and stop trying to rule others from your keyboard! Continue the good work Crofton. You are kicking ass no matter what the price it cost you.
Frankly, I don't even know where to begin with my response, but I will close my eyes and toss my dart because no matter where it lands, it will land on absurdism. But we will start with the first line and we will work our way down.
I am new here, and you have made that abudantly clear throughout your response, so forgive me if I am not as informed as you. My decision to have paid the $.2 has affected you in a manner that when you went to pick up a SW and you offered her what you were willing to pay, for whatever desires you were needing fulfilled, she told you no because Crofton33 pays this much? Or is their a secret SW association in which the going rate is discussed and voted upon and is passed onto you? I have heard of stretching to a conclusion based on fews facts, but you have built a bridge to get to yours. First, you have no idea what it is that I requested and what exchanged between myself and the lady, so based on that, you have no reasonable conclusion to ascertain if the fee was too much or even too little. My view dosen't matter? My view SHOULD matter, just as everyone elses view on here matters. It is a forum after all. As to your lines on senior status, I can agree, but where in ANY of my post have I ever requested to be placed on Senior status? I clicked on you previous post and quickly glanced over the snippets that list, aside from a couple of editorial type responses, you have spent most of your time asking for intel than providing it. If being a senior should be viewed as a job, then I would hope that you would exercise that and guide us newbies with information and not assult us with what YOU think I should do or not. I am still confused in the corrolation of being a senior / mentor of sorts, on telling me how I should spend my money. Furthermore, what makes you think I want to see the same type girl you want to. Next you are going to be telling me how to bang her. The overtones of financial irresposibilty are even more appauling. Take your post #7558 and #3279. If anything is monetarily not prudent is a waste of money you yourself posted about. I would tend to think, that as a senior member and the responsibilities that coincide, you would be guiding in how to monger in the safest possible way. That it is a cohesive combination of safety, money and experience. Not promoting that the only thing is a cheap suck on some side alley where all parties involved have plenty to lose. Have my views upset some, yes, but take post #10643. That is what your job as a senior should be. The fact had you been in charge you would have cancelled me? If there is ever more blatant disregard for what this forum embodies it is that statement. Whether or not you agree with my view, you should stand next to me fighting to allow me to express them. What would you suggest, that your view is the only valid one? I have management on me? That was addressed on #10638, or did you miss that? I believe you were a new menber at one point and I am confident you were not aware of how this system works. Perhaps you were, but I wasn't and my question was asked out of ignorance and have apologized accordingly. It is about everyone, but you have made it about you, or am I not part of the consensus that makes up "everyone"? Change my ways and become a good member of the team or maybe this isn't the place for me. So is it your position in educating others to eliminate those views that you may not have thought of? But, I will give credit where credit is due. If there is one thing that I can take away that you provided me, is if when, or even if I ever acheive senior status, I know what not to do. For that I thank you.
Some of these fools take leadership senior status to more ridiculous heights. Pay what your wallet can afford and not worry about the ideals of others that think there way of doing things are either better or more appropriate. Senior Status does not give others the right to critic others in a $&-hole manner. They are there to assist and not bring drama. I guess senior status means a lot to some here because in there daily normal lives there existence is mot very senior LOL.
Driving through CurtisBay late last night, I saw Jessica. Cute, dirty blond and athletic and tan. She said she was from Florida. I decided to take a chance and go to a notel. She immediately took a shower and when she came out, WOW. You can tell that this girl either works out or was at some time in her life an athlete. I believe she has a tramp stamp just above her ass. We had a good time and I took her back to CurtisBay. She gave me her number but when I called it today, it is a non working number. I was going to ask her if I could share her number. I would repeat. Pm if you have info.
Anybody have some intel on a fit. 28 yo, blond with very short (I mean crew cut) hair who has been found around the circle. This babe comes to town now and then from the county. I have seen her one time and had a fantastic BBBJ cardate and would very much like to find her again.
Frankly, I don't even know where to begin with my response, but I will close my eyes and toss my dart because no matter where it lands, it will land on absurdism. But we will start with the first line and we will work our way down.
I am new here, and you have made that abudantly clear throughout your response, so forgive me if I am not as informed as you. My decision to have paid the $.2 has affected you in a manner that when you went to pick up a SW and you offered her what you were willing to pay, for whatever desires you were needing fulfilled, she told you no because Crofton33 pays this much? Or is their a secret SW association in which the going rate is discussed and voted upon and is passed onto you? I have heard of stretching to a conclusion based on fews facts, but you have built a bridge to get to yours. First, you have no idea what it is that I requested and what exchanged between myself and the lady, so based on that, you have no reasonable conclusion to ascertain if the fee was too much or even too little. My view dosen't matter? My view SHOULD matter, just as everyone elses view on here matters. It is a forum after all. As to your lines on senior status, I can agree, but where in ANY of my post have I ever requested to be placed on Senior status? I clicked on you previous post and quickly glanced over the snippets that list, aside from a couple of editorial type responses, you have spent most of your time asking for intel than providing it. If being a senior should be viewed as a job, then I would hope that you would exercise that and guide us newbies with information and not assult us with what YOU think I should do or not. I am still confused in the corrolation of being a senior / mentor of sorts, on telling me how I should spend my money. Furthermore, what makes you think I want to see the same type girl you want to. Next you are going to be telling me how to bang her. The overtones of financial irresposibilty are even more appauling. Take your post #7558 and #3279. If anything is monetarily not prudent is a waste of money you yourself posted about. I would tend to think, that as a senior member and the responsibilities that coincide, you would be guiding in how to monger in the safest possible way. That it is a cohesive combination of safety, money and experience. Not promoting that the only thing is a cheap suck on some side alley where all parties involved have plenty to lose. Have my views upset some, yes, but take post #10643. That is what your job as a senior should be. The fact had you been in charge you would have cancelled me? If there is ever more blatant disregard for what this forum embodies it is that statement. Whether or not you agree with my view, you should stand next to me fighting to allow me to express them. What would you suggest, that your view is the only valid one? I have management on me? That was addressed on #10638, or did you miss that? I believe you were a new menber at one point and I am confident you were not aware of how this system works. Perhaps you were, but I wasn't and my question was asked out of ignorance and have apologized accordingly. It is about everyone, but you have made it about you, or am I not part of the consensus that makes up "everyone"? Change my ways and become a good member of the team or maybe this isn't the place for me. So is it your position in educating others to eliminate those views that you may not have thought of? But, I will give credit where credit is due. If there is one thing that I can take away that you provided me, is if when, or even if I ever acheive senior status, I know what not to do. For that I thank you.
If you could read what I said you would have not even opened your mouth. First of all many members even ones that are more senior then me tried to correct your mistake but you kept defending your view like you had done nothing wrong instead of saying I am new and I need someone to help me with the ways of the forum. I am always willing to show a new person the ropes so we can all be safe and happy above everything else. Also I said get rid of you if you carried on like you know everything and are not willing to learn the correct way to conduct business on here. As I stated this is like a family on here rather you are here everyday or show up a few times a year like in-laws. We have to tak care of each others period, cause no one else is. If you are on the forum you are after the same girls that everyone else is. You have yet to say a situation, name, or location that has not been talked about before. Last point not only did I tell you that you are wrong but told you the ways to correct it like paying the standard and offering the rest in a tip. I would keep coming but I tired of talking and independence day just came on.
At first, I wanted to defend Crofton. But, he's doing just fine holding his own. I'm going to rally around his idea but would like to put a different spin on it. This argument comes up about as often as the BB argument. The supposed commonality between the two arguments is one monger doing it can affect the many on the forum. I don't believe that particular line of logic in regards to money, though, and I'll get to why. A member once told me 'You get what you pay for. ' And that's mostly true.
There are over 270, 000 members on the USAG. On our very cute little Baltimore SW thread, there are roughly 350+ daily unique visitors (this is going on picture view counts). In the past year, there have been around 4 members (including me) who have openly stated on the forum that they have paid more than standard tuition for a particular service at a given time. I know of 2 members who customarily pay more for service (and they definitively get better service). So, that's about 6 verified out of about 350 Baltimore mongers who do it occasionally. That's less than 2 percent. And that 350 'aggregate' number is just the mongers who are on this board, who knows how many mongers are actually out there. But, let's stick to 350.
From what many girls have told me, they see somewhere between 2 and 20 mongers a day to make that $1 to $4 (above $2. 2 and you're already having a VERY good day for most girls). On the low average, (and we'll use that as our control number because there's not a girl on the fucking planet who would rather be out there doing this shit for a moment longer than they must) a girl might meet around 5 mongers / day or have 35 'sessions' a week. Of those, one monger MIGHT be someone like Crofton. And of that engagement, the Crofton type person MIGHT be willing to go above standard tuition. That means, on her end, she MIGHT have a 2% chance of meeting someone who MIGHT spend some serious duckets on her. That's a lot of fucking maybes, I mean 'mights'.
We lowly cheap bastards are part of the 98 percent. This particular 98% control the market, gentlemen. The 2% couldn't possibly see enough girls enough times enough days out of the week to make a noticeable dent in the entirety of the market culture. If each of those 6 guys saw a working girl from each fucking loop everyday paying $1. ++ for the next month, you would have an argument. Firstly, take me out of that equation because I ain't doing it. Secondly, they would all be broke as shit. But because of the forum's 'standard', we've had an absolute lock on the market for WELL OVER A FUCKING DECADE. There is no argument against that, gentleman. Not a fucking one. It is a monger controlled market. We ARE the market. To say otherwise is to cling to a poor logic slippery slope argument. We have verifiably kept the prices the same for 12 YEARS. You're worried about Crofton? Really?
Crofton, do what you do, man.
Let's go for a different angled argument. And it will seemingly defend Chrissy here (and it should, really). Do you think that someone like Kiara is going to take $.2 from you (this is a general forum 'you') to do the same beautiful stuff she does to me for what I pay her? You're out of your tiny little head if you think that. And she LIKES me.
For people who don't know how to negotiate at all, when you meet a SW for the first time, do not open with, 'Hey what's on the menu? ' or 'How much do you charge for _____? ' You immediately give away your opening bargaining position to them, and for what. For nothing. You gave them control of the conversation for zero gain. If I meet someone new, I say this, 'What will a $.2 spot get me? ' When I receive the answer, I move negotiations from that starting point. If their response is, 'I usually get ___ for ____' and it's too high, then I offer them to leave my car. And I stay within my budget just fine. I drive by girls that have too high of a monetary expectation and they know it. If I pick them up anyway, I tell them immediately what my concerns are. If they push the issue and get snotty and say something like, 'Why can't you go to an ATM? ' I counter with, 'Why the fuck can't you? '
Draw the line and stand by it, gentlemen. If you can't do that, well, I don't know what to say to you. I will tell you that it isn't Crofton's fault.
Punished, MsExsw is not here for the same reason as us. Read her posts. Some of us have seen her in a biblical sense. Neither Doe nor BK were being nice at all. I'm surprised some of the Super Seniors haven't buried them yet for that faux pas. There was no attempt to mitigate bad feelings regarding shitty providers or attempt to see her reasoning. They just went after her as a person. Guranteed, neither has ever dated her. They should reserve that vitriole to thieving / lying SWs that they know who deserve it. She has EVERY reason to be upset. Though normally good posters, DoeSurfer and BKMason's posts were very uncool. There's a reason there's a filter on the forum for calling women derogatory names. Attacking an ex SW for giving us insight into the girls' minds is invaluable and I, for one, thoroughly appreciate her posts.
Chrissy, you go girl.
On a side note, I know I'm guilty of writing weighty tomes but there's no need to quote the ENTIRE post if you have a two sentence retort. Delete some of the text of the quote. People can easily reference the link to the quote just fine. We're ending up with pages with 3 posts for crying out loud.
You have missed everything altogether. I have never told what Crofton should or shouldn't pay we said he needs to up hold the standard that the seniors have set. When he has been here longer he can try to change things. If he wants to pay a total of $.2 he can offer standard and offer a tip if he is happy. After they are finished he can give her the rest in the form of a tip. The reason I say anything about this because I have found SW trying to raise prices because other member gave them more. Even had a few got all the way to the spot and asked for more and even said they rather go back out there then to take less. I took her back and dropped her off as she would not take standard. This is what happens when even a few make up there minds that they will do what they want. Therefore still to standard and offer a tip of choice based on what you are got.
Feeling a bit nostalgic, I'm thinking about a cute brunette with beautiful blue eyes name Emily. She used to hang-out by Bentalou Street on Wilkens Ave. A couple of years ago. If any of you seniors out there with her contact info. I would greatly appreciate a PM. Thanks.
She was family in the area so you can see her every blue moon, but the last time I saw her she had pick up about 40 to 50 pounds!
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