"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Varoom** · 07-14-12 00:41

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

since, as she told me, she's pretty sure I'm her guy.

Well, I guess Irish is the LAST ONE to know then. The rest of use in the clubhouse are damned sure about you being the guy, and Scottie put in two vote of confidence on the subject. My guess Scott, you'll have her kissin the Blarney Stone for dessert on Monday.

**F Scott** · 07-13-12 18:39

Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]

Brother Scott,

The above dialogue is like a classic line from a movie. It may rival Rhett Butler, in GWTW. I am certainly glad that I didn't have a mouthful of liquid when I read this one because I busted out with an uncontrollable horse laugh which continued on a bit. Sweet. Vroom

Thanks, Vroom. I didn't really think of the humor potential as I was writing it, but now that you point it out, it was pretty snappy, wasn't it? And the best part is, it's all true! And you are correct, I will never forget the day, ever, nor will Scottie. He loves me so much right now, it's kind of embarassing. Can you have a bromance with your own penis? Apparently so!

In other news, my Irish Cherokee bailed on me, surprise, surprise. My big failing is that I let myself get out ahead of reality, and start to image the two of us, wrapped in the Sweet Embrace, and I start to believe that she will, in fact, follow through, and forget what the history has been up till now. I straight out accused her of yanking my chain, which of course she denied, and protested that she really, really wants us to get together, but things just came up, yada yada yada. I ask you, my brothers, what just comes up in the life of a 23 yo partially-employed baby that can't be put off for an hour or two? I own my own business and still I can usually find an hour to meet someone for coffee on a given day, especially if it's been planned ahead. Whatever.

In further news, out of the blue I got a response yesterday to a contact I had put out on SA from a gorgeous, funny, smart, lively baby who I may just be mad for. We met for coffee, spent almost three hours at a Starbucks near me, and have been texting and emailing ever since. She is a single mom, ex-military, fishing, hunting and cooking fan, who acts and sings. God, I think I'm in love. Plus, she is gorgeous, did I mention that? We are meeting for lunch on Monday. Negotiations have already been dealt with, since, as she told me, she's pretty sure I'm her guy. Plus, she's Irish. First generation, and you senior members know what I think about that! She is so animated, and full of life, that I think she will be perfect for me to get over the breakup with my ATF, which I realized recently has not even been a month. Time does drag when you are miserable, doesn't it?

Lastly, my "sure thing" with my little Goth baby with the enormous rack did not materialize either. After an endless stream of "sexts", the line suddenly went dead. As Magic said to me, "Ya just never know how this shit's gonna go", which I think we should have made into t-shirts for the clubhouse.

Anyway, just some random musings and updates, in no particular order and without polish. SO comes home this evening, so I will be headed back to solitary until Monday, when I am going to delight in my shiny new baby (hopefully).

Feelin' good,

Scott

**Varoom** · 07-13-12 08:23

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

I ask,"would you like to take the tiller?", to which she replies, in her posh British accent,"no, I'd like to fuck you."

Brother Scott,

The above dialogue is like a classic line from a movie. It may rival Rhett Butler, in GWTW. I am certainly glad that I didn't have a mouthful of liquid when I read this one because I busted out with an uncontrollable horse laugh which continued on a bit. Definitely some great prose there my friend and sooooo glad that the Brit blew your boating shoes clean off. Yip-fuckin-ee; sounds like one that you will take to the old folks home in your grey matter, and even old-timers won't erase that memory! Sweet. Vroom

**ChiGuy606** · 07-12-12 23:38

John,

I think a lot of them probably are legit. I let my account expire every month and have noticed they 'feature' you as soon as it expire so you get a ton of winks and emails. Of course this makes you re-subscribe (they are not dumb).

Of the round of expired winks I got last month, I followed up on all the interesting ones and at least got emails and a few m&gs, so I know many if not all are real.

That being said, the previous advice is also probably good, it'll be like a new pool if you take a month or so away.

Originally Posted by John G Smith [View Original Post]

Brothers help me out.

So at the beginning of the month, I decided to let my SA membership lapse. I had gotten enough leads from SA and new prospects from CL to keep me occupied for a while.

But now I've been getting a relative flood of responses to my SA account now that my membership has expired. I have over 20 unread messages sitting in my inbox that I can't access. Ironically (and suspiciously) I wasn't getting this kind of response rate when I had an active membership logging almost everyday and sending messages. Yet when I do nothing and don't login my profile becomes a magnet.

Is this due to some search engine rigging they do to try to re-active accounts by placing my profile at the top of results or is it the girls in my area are starting to get desperate to find a legit SD? I'm noticing the majority of the girls who are contacting me have been on the site for at least a couple of months.

Anyway, I wanted to get your guys opinion on this. Have you guys noticed this same phenomenon on SA? I know other sites blatantly have fake accounts to reel in old members, but from what I can tell most of the girls who contacted me are legit.

So should I stay strong and ignore the temptation to renew? I kinda want to just focus on the two SBs who are currently on my plate. Or is it not a big deal to renew and explore some new SA leads?

**ChiGuy606** · 07-12-12 23:34

Fabulous story Scott! I've got that old Dennis DeYoung song going through my head now."Cum Saaaaaiiil away with me!"

**Hugh Jardon** · 07-12-12 17:57

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Hugh,

Are you a lurker with intel to contribute? If so, welcome to the Bowl. Wherever you are from, your insights, experience and wisdom are appreciated. Please post up.

Best,

Scott.

PS. Funny name!

I have no intel to contribute on this subject. I'm good with the BP scene and the Baltimore SW tracks.

I do like reading your posts. I'm not sure I have the patience that you seem to have. The reward does sound great!

**EuroInCincy** · 07-12-12 08:00

Originally Posted by John G Smith [View Original Post]

Brothers help me out.

But now I've been getting a relative flood of responses to my SA account now that my membership has expired. I have over 20 unread messages sitting in my inbox that I can't access. Ironically (and suspiciously) I wasn't getting this kind of response rate when I had an active membership logging almost everyday and sending messages. Yet when I do nothing and don't login my profile becomes a magnet.

So should I stay strong and ignore the temptation to renew? I kinda want to just focus on the two SBs who are currently on my plate. Or is it not a big deal to renew and explore some new SA leads?

That is common, just wait and tae care of your current leads, then a month or two later there is the new catch to be caught.

**John G Smith** · 07-12-12 02:39

Brothers help me out.

So at the beginning of the month, I decided to let my SA membership lapse. I had gotten enough leads from SA and new prospects from CL to keep me occupied for a while.

But now I've been getting a relative flood of responses to my SA account now that my membership has expired. I have over 20 unread messages sitting in my inbox that I can't access. Ironically (and suspiciously) I wasn't getting this kind of response rate when I had an active membership logging almost everyday and sending messages. Yet when I do nothing and don't login my profile becomes a magnet.

Is this due to some search engine rigging they do to try to re-active accounts by placing my profile at the top of results or is it the girls in my area are starting to get desperate to find a legit SD? I'm noticing the majority of the girls who are contacting me have been on the site for at least a couple of months.

Anyway, I wanted to get your guys opinion on this. Have you guys noticed this same phenomenon on SA? I know other sites blatantly have fake accounts to reel in old members, but from what I can tell most of the girls who contacted me are legit.

So should I stay strong and ignore the temptation to renew? I kinda want to just focus on the two SBs who are currently on my plate. Or is it not a big deal to renew and explore some new SA leads?

**F Scott** · 07-12-12 00:47

I had forgotten about how hot nurses are as a genre! When I was in college, there was a nursing school right down the road, and my frat would always make a point of inviting them to our parties. My first three-way was with one of those students and her roommate! They were not into each other as much as I was hoping, but still.

Scott

**Varoom** · 07-12-12 00:25

Originally Posted by AliasSM [View Original Post]

Scott,

My nurse SB is not nearly that restrictive, but she also doesn't get into the act like I would hope so it's either something I'm not doing or something else holding her back. She seems to view it as a pleasant experience, just doesn't seem to have that wild side that we all seem to yearn for.

Alias.

This is based on my own research of course, but if we were to catagorize sexual freaks by profession, I would puts Nurse at or near the top. I've done my share of mkt research with them, say maybe 12 to 15 of them, and they seem to be the hotest in the sack based on the Varoom-o-meter. I've always quantified it as part of what they experience in their daily jobs, (potential life and death from moment to moment) that has affected how they see and experience things. Most of them have not been germaphobes at all, hence they work around much more threatening germs than may live on a male genitalia or be carried in semen. In fact most of the ones that I recall love the drink; semen that is.

So Alias, I would stick with her and do some digging to find out what flips her switch. If you can uncover that piece of news you may need to start taking some new vitamins yourself. Of course if she just doesn't get into sex that much then there isn't that much you can do about that. I guess. But she hasn't even hit the prime of her life in terms of sexual appetite yet, so I would declare it your duty to help her uncover her inner sexual freak Alias. And of course share all those freaky details with the rest of us here at the clubhouse. Wish you all the best on getting into her deepest carnal sandbox.

PS. I once dated a nurse who when we began dating it was frankly disappointing in the sack. She may have been about 30 yrs old and not highly experienced. Practice did not make perfect, but it surely improved her game. This training certainly made a better experience for the guy she married, who came along right after me, as sher made leaps and bounds in about a 4-5 month time span.

**F Scott** · 07-11-12 21:17

Gentlemen,

As planned, I took The Naughty Brit sailing today, and it was the fulfillment of a teenage fantasy that I was way too dorky and shy to ever act upon back in my teens when I used to sail all summer. Hot, hot sex on a sailboat in the open air! May I just say, hooray for me?

Now before you all think that I'm an eccentric millionaire, there is a place in one of the harbors here in Chicago that rents 22' sailboats by the hour, and if you can demonstrate that you have some knowledge of sailing, you can take them out by yourself. Back in the day, I was a true harbor rat, and would sail or crew for anyone I could convince to take me on. My goal was to fuck some daughter of some rich dude who owned a boat, but that never happened. Duh, who fucks the hired help, right? On the bright side, I now can sail pretty much anything with a mast, which I suddenly find is a powerful aphrodisiac with the babies.

So I pick her up at her place, and she's looking all fabulous and nautical, and I see evidence of a bikini under her clothes, which makes little Scottie stir from his slumber, and we head down to the harbor. After the whole certification "exam", which basically amounted to them watching me rig the boat and asking me what "come about" means, off we go, into the bounding main! It was a truly gorgeous day, blue sky, warm sun, not too hot, fresh breeze out of the east at about 15 knots, perfect in other words. Enough wind to make the boat cook, but not too much that baby would be scared. I am silently saying a prayer of thanks to the god of the Sugar Bowl as we head out into the lake on a close reach, which as anyone knows is the sexiest of tacks. I am doing my best to impersonate JFK in Hyannisport, or maybe a J Crew catalog page, and I can feel Brit's eyes on me, admiringly, I hope.

After we are about a mile out, in other words, far from land, with no other boats near us, I ask,"would you like to take the tiller?", to which she replies, in her posh British accent,"no, I'd like to fuck you." These are exactly the words Scottie has been waiting for, and he signals his agreement in the only way he knows how. She comes over, pulls her bikini bottoms off, opens my shorts, slaps a cover on Scottie, (which she brought!!) and sits down on my lap, facing me so we could kiss like teenagers. My brothers, this girl has fantastic lips, maybe the best I've ever kissed, and I was in heaven. The water was a little choppy, so there were a few awkward moments, but honestly neither one of us cared. It was, as I have said, the realization of a fantasy that I have been harboring for 35 years, and I'm not sure I will ever be able to look out at the lake again in the same way!

We sailed for about 4 hours, and then went to a fantastic bar and had some beers and artisinal mac and cheese, which is a thing with the younger set, apparently. We sat outside, in the shade, and just laughed, talked, touched and generally basked in the glow of the day. I hope I am not coming across as a puss when I say I have rarely had a more wonderful, enjoyable day than today, and I want to reiterate something I posted a while ago - when you connect with the right baby, this is the Fountain of Youth!

In other news, yesterday I made tentative plans to meet up tomorrow with an old contact, my Irish Cherokee, who I sent an exploratory email to last week, not thinking I would hear anything, and got a very promising series of replies. This is a baby that I was crazy, crazy, crazy for about a year ago, but she got cold feet and bolted. I think if I could connect with her, she would be in the running for my new ATF, although after today, Naughty Brit is certainly looking odds-on.

At present, I am back home, pets are fed, SO is out of town until Friday evening, and I have a nice bottle of chard in the fridge. Life is good.

Peace,

Scott

**AliasSM** · 07-11-12 05:17

Scott,

I appreciate your suggestions and I realize that I have some work to do on this one to create the kind of sex kitten that we all are looking for in a SB. I agree that I can influence some improvements to her overall FC attitude, but also wonder if she will ever be totally up to speed on what I'm looking for. Can you really train that (how to really please a guy) or is it an inborn desire that is intuitive to the right women with the right attitude. I'd like to think its possible because I really like that SB. She make me laugh and seems to truly enjoy our time together besides just getting the paycheck at the end. She has all of the right ASSets to keep me interested for a while, but needs to step up her game in the FC. I would like to think that I can correct that, but I think some women have some other mental barriers that will never let them compete at the top. With some women I've been with over the years, it's the "clean freak" barrier. They will never enjoy giving a BBBJ because they would gag thinking about all of those germs they are coming into contact with. They could never enjoy anal stimulation because " that's so disgusting", they would never think of allowing DATY because they are germaphobic.

My nurse SB is not nearly that restrictive, but she also doesn't get into the act like I would hope so it's either something I'm not doing or something else holding her back. She seems to view it as a pleasant experience, just doesn't seem to have that wild side that we all seem to yearn for.

I will keep trying though for now, and I promise to report any progress.

Alias.

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Alias,

In my experience, they are absolutely trainable, as a concept. Whether your particular baby is or is not, only time will tell. You need to be explicit in what you want her to do, and maybe even get your freak on a bit to show her your limits. I have had two babies that started out medium, and I took the approach that I was going to take the lead and instruct them, rather than wait for them to get up to speed, and it unlocked virtually insatiable sex machines. You must remember, we old dudes have been at this a long time, and know a thing or two about the female body and how to access its buttons. If this baby is in her 20's, she probably has not had any partners her own age who last more than 30 seconds, and once they pop, they're done. Thus, they have no idea what we want other than lie back, spread their legs and wait till it's over.

**ILikeHotWomen** · 07-11-12 00:06

First of all what is a Nando1? I'm guessing nympho as I have read about 20 pages of this forum, but not 100% sure. What do most of you guys pay per visit with these sbs? I am entering this arena but it seems like a bit more work on the emotional game for these females. I am looking for ones in the 18-25 range. What emotional ploys do you experts think work best on this type? I don't want to spend huge amounts of time wooing them, as I am only looking to hook up with them about once a week. Thanks for any help in advance for any pms or help on here.

**F Scott** · 07-10-12 21:42

Alias,

In my experience, they are absolutely trainable, as a concept. Whether your particular baby is or is not, only time will tell. You need to be explicit in what you want her to do, and maybe even get your freak on a bit to show her your limits. I have had two babies that started out medium, and I took the approach that I was going to take the lead and instruct them, rather than wait for them to get up to speed, and it unlocked virtually insatiable sex machines. You must remember, we old dudes have been at this a long time, and know a thing or two about the female body and how to access its buttons. If this baby is in her 20's, she probably has not had any partners her own age who last more than 30 seconds, and once they pop, they're done. Thus, they have no idea what we want other than lie back, spread their legs and wait till it's over.

I am oversimplifying, of course, but you get the gist. A number of babies like "dirty talk" as well, and this is a great way to work in some instruction. You might also consider sending her a "list", I. E, stuff you are going to do to her next time you meet, and what you want her to do to you. Be as concrete as possible, and it can be a fantastic method of foreplay.

Good Lord, I'm sounding like Dr. Phil, or is it Dr. Ruth? In any event, they don't have a chance of doing what you are looking for if you don't tell them what you want. They just haven't had as much experience as we have, for the most part.

Of course, this is all moot if she is not a baby you plan on keeping around mid to long term. But if you feel there's potential there, send her the "list", or talk dirty, or show her what you want. What do you have to lose?

Don't forget to write,

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