Massage Parlor Reports

[Stressed Out]

First there is this for those who didn't see it.

Canadian province of Ontario legalizes brothels in landmark ruling

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/26/world/...els/index.html

And then this.

http://now.msn.com/money/0328-spanis...on-strike.aspx

What the heck is the world coming do. But then again we have Martha who nhasn't seen a dick in years but needs one. SO

[Stressed Out]

Speak for yourself SMS. Tipping is based on how good the service is, not on the age of the monger. I'm not in my early 20s anymore either but if I get a massage that's lackluster at best even with a 'happy ending, ' She's not getting $40-plus from me. Just my 2 cents.

Me thinks our good friend SMS was being sarcastic. But then again I could be wrong. Old age does that to you.

[Adobe]

Arg, I respectfully disagree. You don't think that the average 45 year old Asian masseuse (who granted may look to be 30) , who sees seven guys a day over the course of a 10-hour day (at least) is pulling down half the house fee (let's say some sessions are half hour and some a full hour) , so 220 in their share of the house fee and another 280 in tips? 500 large a day? Maybe in an American parlor, but not an AMP. Regardless, I agree that 20 seems low, but I.

Just don't think we should be judging the guy who tips 20. If we all start over-tipping, it's like we're upping the ante for ourselves.

Contrary to what Adobe said, the tip is usually 100% for the masseuse. The house fee is what gets split and that ranges from "so much a minute" for the masseuse to a 70/30 split to maybe a 50/50 at most. The house gets the larger share. If one gets a totally legit, no HE, no groping etc. Bodyrub / massage that alone is a service that should be tipped. A 55 minute massage, if half way decent, ought to earn a $10-$20 tip alone. If you go to place with a rep for happy endings another $20-$30 would be fair and reasonable for a total of $40. My personal opinion is that if you tip less than $30 for a half assed massage and rushed happy ending (worst case scenario) you are being too cheap.

ARG

[ARegularGuy]

Contrary to what Adobe said, the tip is usually 100% for the masseuse. The house fee is what gets split and that ranges from "so much a minute" for the masseuse to a 70/30 split to maybe a 50/50 at most. The house gets the larger share. If one gets a totally legit, no HE, no groping etc. Bodyrub / massage that alone is a service that should be tipped. A 55 minute massage, if half way decent, ought to earn a $10-$20 tip alone. If you go to place with a rep for happy endings another $20-$30 would be fair and reasonable for a total of $40. My personal opinion is that if you tip less than $30 for a half assed massage and rushed happy ending (worst case scenario) you are being too cheap.

ARG

[French]

Tiping is always a question of service, OR, How they mainpulate situations, to drain every dollar.

It took me years to understand that money is not a rite to all, just because of being the opposite sex. Society and cultural norms will want to manipulate and brainwash all into acting as if so, while demanding equal rites.

In One pocket I have a 10, the other a couple of 20's and Ben is in the car.

This way I have to think about whats going on.

My new attitude is that after the flip they want the tip, I walk out with towel around my waist. (They freak out on that one) and rush me back in.

Follow the standards and try to develop L T R with providers and have them feel treated like a queen and your the king.

[Amp Slave]

Since you asked, yes, the minimum standard is 40, unless you get lousy service. Your age has nothing to do with it. Beng an inexperienced tightwad has more to do with it. I would be embaressed to walk out the door after leaving a tip like that and even more embaressed for a return visit.

I understand and have been tipping $40. 00 depending on the service but have been known to tip $20. 00 also. These girls want you to return and they will take the $20-$30 because of it. With the economy the way it is we all should be doing that. The girls may complain but then again they still get a tip. I have tighten my belt as we all have.

[Member #4075]

[QUOTE=Adobe; 1413722]My 2 cents: Yes the standard may be $40 but a) the tip goes to the house in these places, not the masseuse, and be) if they take $20 and continue to offer HE next time you return that means that the $20 was adequate. Maybe not generous but at least enough. I tip 40 unless the service was truly awful but let's face it, with rare exception these ladies are all about getting us to pop as quickly as possible, within 2 to 5 minutes if possible. I don't know anyonw who gets paid 40 for 5 minutes. Or let's say 10 minutes of "milking". That's like 240 an hour! Add in a 50 door fee and you're talking about 90 for a so-so massage from a middle-aged lady who probably gets better bonuses (if any) from Mamasan based on repeat business rather than the occasional big tipper.

Not so! Adobe, I know for a fact that the Chinese masseuses in the greater Boston area specifically, get to automatically keep a minimum 25 percent or fifteen dollars to as much as forty percent or twenty four dollars on your atypical 60 dollar, one hour massage. It is all worked out prior to their hiring. It's what determines, among other things, whether they even want to work at the place or not. These ladies aren't hired by the spa in the usual sense of other jobs; an opening is spread by word of mouth or an advertisement placed in a free street vending machine, Chinese or Korean magazine (similar to the Phoenix) , they inquire, and decide for themselves if they want to work there, if they like the deal.

When the opening is available, it means the Mamasans are losing money daily so they arent exactly too particular, too scrutinous, too difficult with their hiring requirements. They just need a body. And fast. To get the money flowing again. Who ever applies first and can start soonest and will cooperate with the deal and the rules, gets the job. Simple as that. Short, fat, tall, pretty, ugly, young, old, it's all arbitrary to the Mamasan, she has seen a lot of ladies come and go and that is how it has and always will be in this business. There are few favorites. Remember this is criminal for most places, and quasi-criminal for the rest. There are few completely one hundred percent legitimate places. It's not like applying for a job at Home Depot.

This percentage workout has been true since the last six or so years, too. That is why the ladies move so often from place to place, there is always a better deal, better or busier store, better, kinder, more generous Mamasan or owner around the corner, and the ladies know this and exploit these options when they feel they need to. I am friends with several masseuses, and in the past three owners, and two Mamasans. They have revealed the "ancient Chinese secret" to me. Those fifteen to 24 dollars are the ladies' commission to keep. The balance is to pay the bills and rent and buy house food. The half hour breakdown is usually only five to ten dollars for the masseuse, the rest house. Or else, why would anyone hang around all day for 12 to 14 hours (for some of them,) waiting for a customer and working their way through a two, three or even four girl rotation to get their next shot? Nobody works for free.

And they keep all (one hundred percent) of their tips. And they are fed by Mama for free as well. Many to most don't pay taxes either, or have a bank account or a credit card. They live underground so to speak. Pay cash for everything. Send most of their money home in 900 or so dollar wire transfers. Buy pawnable items, like jewelry etc. You may beat them once with a low tip, fool them once, but believe me they are savvy and they will remember you, and most likely the next time you get them, they will either short change you on time, give you a purposefully inferior massage or deny you the HE until you promise 40 or better thru hard, pre-touch (but some tease) negotiations, some asking for the dough up front even or others blocking the door after etc. They will get even with you if they care to. Perhaps, this lady didn't, but many others do. This way, even if they only get one customer on any given day, they will still yield fiftyfive or so dollars, which divided by 12 hours is still only minimum wage, however should they get lucky and have two, three, or four or more customers in a day and all tipping forty, that day's salary could be as much as an enginerer, lawyer, professor etc.

The business is feast or famine, chicken or feather, peanut or shell, take the good with the bad, but since many work nearly 365 days a year, it ultimately stills pays for them.

In summation, the best advice is to never go back to a place where you were not happy, where you low-tipped, and to just find one or two, places that you are always happy with, and make them your go to places and just tip the regular amount, that most of us know, on most sessions and a little bit better on the more quality sessions. You can not win this maximum for the minimum game. Perhaps a victory here or there, but ultimately if you keep up at this hobby, you will realize that you will be forced to pay competitive market rates for tips and / or realize it is time to stop going. This is sort of a game, for the masseuses, but NOT for the customer. Don't try to play it better than them, they are much more business smart than they appear to you. Some can get friend discounts, but most aren't at that level. If you want to play games that you can win at, the streetwalker scene allows much more angles to play and can be a more win-able game (albeit dangerous) for those with experience and finesse. But given the LE climate lately, I'm personally done with the street scene, even if some extremely low prices and high mileage can be gained from it.

[Big Bobby35]

As I saw someone ask, and I've seen the girls digging real hard for more 'tip' with less people visiting the multipling establishments.

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I will lead off saying that I am not the be-all end-all of standard of tipping. I can just remember a time when $60 bucks got ya an hour massage and a great Ending. And I am younger than most on here.

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Originally Posted by Erokejs.

Ok Big Bobby, I didn't think I was over tipping for what I got and the talent level. But hey, I'm part of the local 69 Mongers Union and as a good dues paying union brother, I will be happy to fall in line. Why don't' you set the rates for us here in the Monger's Union and I'm down for sticking to them.

It is a free economy (well at least today) , so lets all put our 2 cents.while keeping it in a positive light.

Maybe a standard should be set, as it seems numbers have gotten higher while we are all making less.

HJ.

= $20. For mechanical, like she's pulling weeds out of the back garden.

= $30. Your a regular, good technique, but just ok.

= $40. A great day, she put that orgasmic energy into her job today.

BJ.

= $40. Quick mouth to cock sensation, too much hand, finish is no where near her body.

= $50. Normal rates, covered BJ that is good, maybe finish on chest.

= $60. Drained you like she was the only meal she ate today. Facial, etc.

FS.

= $80. Standard, single position, covered (shoulda got a BJ)

=$100. Old ct days of multiple positions, maybe just rush to get out.

= $120+. She wants you to remember her, she is in charge and your going to pay.

Most recently girls have been asking,"what ya going to give me". I hate to think I'm buying a car. But, tactics prove out. If your willing to do $50, why say $50. Shouldn't you say $30 or less. Hell, have fun with it. You may be only one of 3 guys she sees that day!

I think I threw this up awhile ago, based on what most guys felt were the 'norm'. Yes, there is that rando knock-out that you stumble into and its once in a life time. Gj you won the lotto. What kills me is when I turn a friend on to a new piece of talent and I give them this range. 4wks later they ask me how can I afford to do this hobby. I ask them why do they think its expensive. Their response = well I go to abc give $70 for the massage and tip $80-$180 for a HJ or FS on top of the door fee. My response, WTF are you thinking. You've now priced yourself into a let down. To them, you are an atm. Its a service economy. Treat them with respect, and make it enjoyable.

[Adobe]

My 2 cents: Yes the standard may be $40 but a) the tip goes to the house in these places, not the masseuse, and be) if they take $20 and continue to offer HE next time you return that means that the $20 was adequate. Maybe not generous but at least enough. I tip 40 unless the service was truly awful but let's face it, with rare exception these ladies are all about getting us to pop as quickly as possible, within 2 to 5 minutes if possible. I don't know anyonw who gets paid 40 for 5 minutes. Or let's say 10 minutes of "milking". That's like 240 an hour! Add in a 50 door fee and you're talking about 90 for a so-so massage from a middle-aged lady who probably gets better bonuses (if any) from Mamasan based on repeat business rather than the occasional big tipper. We're in a lousy economy and I personally tip 40 but if you asked an AMP whether it would rather have an extra visit or two each month at the expense of a modest tip, or less visits but 20 bucks more to the girl (to the house actually) , I would put dollars to donuts the answer is more visits, smaller tips. My point is just let's not judge others for what they decide or are able to tip. If it's not enough, they'll find out soon enough.

[Smoke Screen]

Hey guys I'm a newb on here but been in the game for a bit. I usually only tip 20. 00 and have never had any complaints. I usually frequent the same places more then once. Is the industry standard 40 and am I just getting away with 20 because I'm young mid 20s. I have had a couple places especially revere where I haven't tipped at all and gotten more then normal.

Since you asked, yes, the minimum standard is 40, unless you get lousy service. Your age has nothing to do with it. Beng an inexperienced tightwad has more to do with it. I would be embaressed to walk out the door after leaving a tip like that and even more embaressed for a return visit.

[Joe Fish]

Yes, you are correct, the industry standard is 40 for HE at most AMPs, but you are getting away with 20 or less because you are such a stud, that those 40-50 yo providers are willing to work hard and accept that half a tip or less, just to be in your presence. Just be forewarned, that as you age and if you happen to get like, bald, fat, gray or some / or all combination of those, you will be expected to cough up the full industry standard, whatever it may be in the future. Just like the rest of us fossils are paying now.

Speak for yourself SMS. Tipping is based on how good the service is, not on the age of the monger. I'm not in my early 20s anymore either but if I get a massage that's lackluster at best even with a 'happy ending, ' She's not getting $40-plus from me. Just my 2 cents.

[Spaz2580]

I've seen some reports on Lavendar. Seems to be DIY with some younger providers.

Water St. Reports have said legit session.

The first ads I saw for it were in Nov and it was called Lavendar Spa. Sometime last month it gturned into Jennifer's. Both were att he same location. I've seen nothing on it at all although the ads are well written.

There is another place in Quincy that has advertised recently on Water St. The number is 617-821-1295. Maybe someone has info on there also. SO

[Jafo101]

Yes, you are correct, the industry standard is 40 for HE at most AMPs, but you are getting away with 20 or less because you are such a stud, that those 40-50 yo providers are willing to work hard and accept that half a tip or less, just to be in your presence. Just be forewarned, that as you age and if you happen to get like, bald, fat, gray or some / or all combination of those, you will be expected to cough up the full industry standard, whatever it may be in the future. Just like the rest of us fossils are paying now.

You are 100% correct I have never been to an AMP and tipped less than 40 like you say when he gets 40-50 age range and puts the extra pounds on like we have he will pay. Enjoy it while you can.

[AsianLPGAfan]

Been a long time customer at B. F. And never complained when they switched ladies or through me in with the unskilled rubbers.

Lately, they say to come down know problem and boom when I get there, they are beezy and to come back later.

Or, you should have called. AHHH OK.

Well, I will miss some of the great therapist they have, Cindy, Mary are the ones that stick out to me. But, when you call and make appts. 2-3 times and they tell you to screww when you get there, fuget about it. I would normaly take the hint that they don't want you. But, the languadge and culture realms are so different, it is the coordination of things that is too difficult for this business.

For the money I spend, I should get alot better service.

I actualy toughened up the other day. Had mild to louzy service at AMP and left no tip. Usualy, always leave something.

The money these women make is more than most PHD and Masters degree workers in the economy and they work hard for it, but I am know longer going to be looked at as an atm for there life style, if I don't get the service my body needs.

The prices there aren't bad. Mary was excellent.

Expect "therapeutic" or at most DIY.

Haven't frequented enough to know if more is possible

[SMS 54]

Hey guys I'm a newb on here but been in the game for a bit. I usually only tip 20. 00 and have never had any complaints. I usually frequent the same places more then once. Is the industry standard 40 and am I just getting away with 20 because I'm young mid 20s. I have had a couple places especially revere where I haven't tipped at all and gotten more then normal.

Yes, you are correct, the industry standard is 40 for HE at most AMPs, but you are getting away with 20 or less because you are such a stud, that those 40-50 yo providers are willing to work hard and accept that half a tip or less, just to be in your presence. Just be forewarned, that as you age and if you happen to get like, bald, fat, gray or some / or all combination of those, you will be expected to cough up the full industry standard, whatever it may be in the future. Just like the rest of us fossils are paying now.