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[Hatchet]

The best advice is travel to this area with very little cash wear nondescript clothes. Get a $20 "batphone" and leave the area after you get a "Hottie" to go to a No-tel. Don't draw attention to youraelf in anyway. These people are tough and travel in packs targeting the easy marks.

[CookyJar]

Let me explain myself.

...I said walking the ave is bad vs driving a car.

Enterprise has cars to rent for 20 a day (say less then 50 w / all the extras).

...You totally need to keep your shit together or you will get hurt.

Milo

I am Not disputing what you are saying. On this avenue or any place where there are drugs, hookers, and questionable people, you should always have your wits about you. Much of what you are saying makes a lot of sense. I have but one question: What difference does having a rented car (or any car) make.

There was a News report, earlier today, about a victim who was shot in his car and drove to the hospital were he died. I have heard of guys who got robbed in their car. I have heard of guys who got robbed at their hotel after driving there with a girl. Guys get robbed at gun point during car dates in back lots. Unless the car is bullet proof, or comes with an armed guard, I don't see where it, by itself, is a lot of protection. In fact, you may be worst off, if you let yourself be lured into a sense of false safety, believing you don't have to be alert because you've rented a car.

FYI: Guys who grew-up in the hood, lived there all their life and know the streets get killed every day.

Whether On foot, driving a tank or ordering out, your best defense/protection is a alert mind.
JMHO.

CookyJar

[Yeahitsme13]

I put a review of Alice from BP in the BP Review section. I HIGHLY recommend seeing her before she becomes a regular girl from BP. She is BRAND NEW. I was her first outcall ever.

Go check her out and PM me if you want her personal digits!

[JustForKicks]

I'm in town for the night, I don't want to rent a car, or go to the ave, I would prefer a safe provider that can come to my hotel. Can anyone Suggest a girl or two in the airport area? Would rather trust a safe source from this site rather than lurk on BP. I have many connections for you to trade if you are ever in the VA area. Thank you and Happy Hunting.

Let me explain myself.

I don't post much here because of various reasons but I know the ave well.

I said walking the ave is bad vs driving a car.

Enterprise has cars to rent for 20 a day (say less then 50 w / all the extras).

I see (and have met personally) where a guy not from the area wants to enjoy the fruits of the ave. (walking or not) This is not the place to learn street smarts. People from the burbs that think they are tough ain't crap to the people that are here. They are silly to think the girls want to have great sex and collect money. Some do but which ones are they. They don't understand some of these folks will cause them harm for 10 dollars. They don't understand dope sick. These people live in a completely different world.

You totally need to keep your shit together or you will get hurt. This needs to be the one thing to get across here. F. Up or meet the wrong person and you can die. No bones about it. I mean dead! You life can be worth the value of your watch to someone. Someone did steal the watch off a guy dying in the emergency room.

Have I been mugged. No, but very close. (guns pulled the whole deal) and it was in a car, them banging on the windows. Thank god the car started and I'm quick thinking. I was a statistic ready to be recorded. I have had girls take the cash and run, wallet cleaned out while sucking my the, bullshit dates. All of it. I've learned a lot from the school of hard knocks.

Unless you know the person you must always keep you stuff together. Some girls are sweet hearts but without knowing how can you tell them from the one that just wants to steal whatever you got. Including your car.

My advice to anyone (visitor to philly from out of town) that wants to experience the ave. Rent a cheap car. Get a GPS so you don't get too lost.

Go to a hotel. When you learn and understand the Ave. Venture out. Meet a few girls, get a few digits then take some chances.

Have a good time just be safe. Again people die for being stupid, just be smart. Trust no-one (not even myself).

Milo

[Milo96]

Let me explain myself.

I don't post much here because of various reasons but I know the ave well.

I said walking the ave is bad vs driving a car.

Enterprise has cars to rent for 20 a day (say less then 50 w / all the extras).

I see (and have met personally) where a guy not from the area wants to enjoy the fruits of the ave. (walking or not) This is not the place to learn street smarts. People from the burbs that think they are tough ain't crap to the people that are here. They are silly to think the girls want to have great sex and collect money. Some do but which ones are they. They don't understand some of these folks will cause them harm for 10 dollars. They don't understand dope sick. These people live in a completely different world.

You totally need to keep your shit together or you will get hurt. This needs to be the one thing to get across here. F. Up or meet the wrong person and you can die. No bones about it. I mean dead! You life can be worth the value of your watch to someone. Someone did steal the watch off a guy dying in the emergency room.

Have I been mugged.no, but very close. (guns pulled the whole deal) and it was in a car, them banging on the windows.thank god the car started and I'm quick thinking. I was a statistic ready to be recorded. I have had girls take the cash and run, wallet cleaned out while sucking my the, bullshit dates.all of it. I've learned a lot from the school of hard knocks.

Unless you know the person you must always keep you stuff together. Some girls are sweet hearts but without knowing how can you tell them from the one that just wants to steal whatever you got.including your car.

My advice to anyone (visitor to philly from out of town) that wants to experience the ave. Rent a cheap car. Get a GPS so you don't get too lost.

Go to a hotel. When you learn and understand the Ave.venture out.meet a few girls, get a few digits then take some chances.

Have a good time just be safe. Again people die for being stupid, just be smart. Trust no-one (not even myself).

Milo

[Mrkuyamandla]

I worked in this area for 7-8 years and know the ave well. The north side is safer then the south. (talking about the south. Somerset) Ever count the number of senseless murders in this area. Send a person who doesn't know the area along with a pocket full of cash and your looking at another statistic. If you feel safe go hang out here but I wouldn't. Someone will hit you with a brick for just being stupid.

Everyone know what they are used to. Make sure you wear your nice sneaks and a gold chain too.

If you are white and you want to look like a local, you need to have a glazed look in your eye and a tattoo on the side of your neck. I don't know if any white people can easily fit in here. You see a white dude, he's probably a john. Just the way we assume every white bird walking on the ave is a hooker (and we are pretty much right).

Let them walk you right into a mugging. Real smart. How much you got in your pocket?

Has this happened to anyone?

Every day people go for walks with these girls to places they know where they have an arrangement to pay the people $10 or whatever. They are usually rooms people rent to them in the basement that have a bed. They'd have to call ahead to setup and ambush, if they were doing it on a regular basis it would be talked about here more.

So it's possible, but it's unlikely. Of course, many times you need to walk for 5. 10 blocks to get there and if it was dark and you didn't know the area, you might be like "what did I just get into".

If he was going during the day time, I'd say go for it. But not so much at night.

I do think walking around is an easy way to do it (can be time consuming to cover the blocks and chase down the gal you want). And anytime you are NOT in a car, law enforcement has less power over you.

[JGgarth]

I will probably avoid Kensington as . there seems to be no consensus on how safe I would be walking out there after the sun goes down.

Exactly. That's what I was trying to establish, and therefore thanks to all who commented. Personally, while I've never mongered there (nor visited w / o a car) , I'm somewhat familiar with the area, and yes, it does look very run-down, and while I've never witnessed anything criminal there, I kinda feel that it's far from impossible. At least, based on how the place looks.

Are there any streetwalkers around Chinatown?

Not that I'm aware of. Never seen one.

Is chinatown safe to be after dark?

Never had a problem, never heard of any problems (except for these "teen flash mobs" this summer). So, the short answer is, to the best of my knowledge, yes it's safe. Nor, BTW, have I ever read anything about Chinatown on the Philly crime blotter (at.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dncrime/

Usually bad stuff is concentrated in the North and West. These you should definitely consider as no-go areas.

What is the street address for "FC"?

Perhaps I'm too anal about it, but they seem to really appreciate when you call ahead (that's rather unique among AMPs, at least in this town, but otoh, why not accommodate?). So, I won't mention their address, but if you call them up they'll give it to you. Their phone is available on their site at.

http://www.funcityasians.com/

It's close to Spring Garden not quite in the middle of the town.

If you are not aware of your surroundings or feeble or don't walk around confidently, yes, you are vulnerable.

Well, so there's no consensus. I'd certainly err on the side of caution; seem like SlickPoetry thinks so too. I'm not entirely unfamiliar with the area, and while it's not enough to give advice, I know that I, personally, would not venture there w / o a car.

it has more to do with YOU and your street saviness than the fact that you are from Philadelphia.

That makes sense.

"let them take you somewhere"? Perhaps, but preferably on a second date after you know a girl

Well, yes, but it's a chicken and egg problem all over again. How do you then go about the first date (w / o a car)? I guess, I'm not crazy about the idea of sauntering around there w / o a car. But again, I'm not from that area and know it very superficially.

"Do we have something like a list"? No. Giving that out would jeopardize the owner of such places.

OK, so we do have a list, but it is private. Kinda / sorta. Meaning people do know of such places, but do not openly share this info. Right? As compared with not knowing.

You find one by asking a girl

Honestly, I'd be leery to let a girl there take me anywhere. Oh I'm sure in most cases that'd be all right, but you only need to get in trouble once, you know? I'd rather go to some familiar place that I knew of independently of any girls there.

As for hotels, search "Carlyle" "Riviera" "Hub" "Hallmark" or just plain "hotel" in the Philadelphia thread.

Thanks for that suggestion, will do.

We really need a sticky thread on "hotels" from some fine upstanding organized longtime member.

That would be very helpful indeed. I mean, we're talking "stundenhotel" not the regular kind. I don't know if you can find such an establishment in your yellow pages.

[SlickPoetry]

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I will probably avoid Kensington as I would need to do my activities after 5 PM (I will be in the convention center all day) and there seems to be no consensus on how safe I would be walking out there after the sun goes down.

Are there any streetwalkers around Chinatown? Is chinatown safe to be after dark?

What is the street address for "FC"?

Another question. Has anyone had any luck picking up a girl in the Harrah's Casino? Long shot I know, but I do plan on being there on a Friday night.

[Bigtime Monger]

JGgarth,

You are addressing others, but let me chime in as well:

• "need the somerset station" means "near the Somerset stop on the Market-Frankford elevated train line. The bottom of the stairs at that stop is one of the most notorious drug-dealing corners in the city. If you are not aware of your surroundings or feeble or don't walk around confidently, yes, you are vulnerable. Especially at night. Drug users, pimps, and other neer-do-wells are known to carry and use their fists or, gulp, guns! So it has more to do with YOU and your street saviness than the fact that you are from Philadelphia.

• "Run down", definitely yes; "dangerous", potentially yes. But as I indicated I have gotten off the el there and walked around and gotten laid, and I'm not fullback-sized. But I always kept moving and definitely kept my eyeballs open. Frankly, it's not for out-of-towners simply because they may not know which streets are more dangerous or where shops or stores are where they can find refuge. So really, "out-of-towners" would include Philadelphia suburbanites, visitors from across the river in New Jersey, and people from other Philadelphia neighborhoods. I'm from another neighborhood, and I drove those Kensington streets for several years before I ventured out to walk.

• "investigate the K alternative"? Yes, taking the above into account. But only if you like adventure and cheap prices.

• "let them take you somewhere"? Perhaps, but preferably on a second date after you know a girl, but again, it's an adventure with far more risk than at a hotel or AMP.

• "Do we have something like a list"? No. Giving that out would jeopardize the owner of such places. You find one by asking a girl (preferably one you have dated before). As for hotels, search "Carlyle" "Riviera" "Hub" "Hallmark" or just plain "hotel" in the Philadelphia thread. We really need a sticky thread on "hotels" from some fine upstanding organized longtime member. DukePV, are you listening?

[Milo96]

Ah, all right. The original inquirer (SickPoetry) is definitely not from Philly - so you say he should ignore the advice to visit K? Could you elaborate a bit: like, why wouldn't you walk the ave if you were not from Philly? Unsafe? If so, how would being from Philly make you safer? And if it's not the safety, then what is it?

I worked in this area for 7-8 years and know the ave well. The north side is safer then the south. (talking about the south. Somerset) Ever count the number of senseless murders in this area. Send a person who doesn't know the area along with a pocket full of cash and your looking at another statistic. If you feel safe go hang out here but I wouldn't. Someone will hit you with a brick for just being stupid.

Why? Mrkuyamandla said it's run-down but not dangerous. Do you disagree with that assessment?

Everyone know what they are used to. Make sure you wear your nice sneaks and a gold chain too. The strangler preyed upon women here and they knew the streets. Again I drive through but would put myself in jeopardy for a 25 dollar hummer. Try it and let me know how it goes.

What do you mean?Oh yeah, always a good alternative (not just FC but any AMP really) ; always unproblematic. But suppose we wanted to investigate the K alternative. The posters so far seemed to imply it's an option; you seem to disagree. Could you explain?

AMP is safe. The ave is not. Love the ave but only in a car.

Is it a good idea to let them take you somewhere? Is it a prevailing MO. Or would it be better to learn the "lay of the lang" as it were and rent a place on your own? Do we have something like a list of such places here (or elsewhere) and / or how do you find one?

Let them walk you right into a mugging. Real smart. How much you got in your pocket?

[JGgarth]

If your not from Philly. I would not walk the ave.

Ah, all right. The original inquirer (SickPoetry) is definitely not from Philly - so you say he should ignore the advice to visit K? Could you elaborate a bit: like, why wouldn't you walk the ave if you were not from Philly? Unsafe? If so, how would being from Philly make you safer? And if it's not the safety, then what is it?

I'm from here and would't walk

Why? Mrkuyamandla said it's run-down but not dangerous. Do you disagree with that assessment?

need the somerset station.

What do you mean?

Go to FC. You will have a good SAFE time.

Oh yeah, always a good alternative (not just FC but any AMP really) ; always unproblematic. But suppose we wanted to investigate the K alternative. The posters so far seemed to imply it's an option; you seem to disagree. Could you explain?

Most girls have their own favorite stops. Ask and you shall recieve.

Is it a good idea to let them take you somewhere? Is it a prevailing MO - or would it be better to learn the "lay of the lang" as it were and rent a place on your own? Do we have something like a list of such places here (or elsewhere) and/or how do you find one?

[Helfarch]

Hey guys,

I'm visiting from Los Angeles and am looking for a woman (not a girl-I want some experience, and if that means she's a little mature that's find by me) to come see me tonight in Center City. I'm not sure how it works, here, but back home most of the outcall ads can't be trusted. They'll take your money and hand it out the door to their "driver," then proceed to either upsell or flat out refuse to provide anything additional. There ARE safe bets, but they're generally not on BP. I've checked eros, and while I did find some of what I'm looking for there, the rates are a LOT higher than what I think of as reasonable.

So I figured I'd see if anybody here would be willing to help a guy out. I know I don't have a lot of posts, but you should be able to see that I'm a senior member who's been around for a few years. If you're willing to share info I'd really appreciate it. Of course, if you're ever in LA I will hook you up.

Thanks!

[CookyJar]

I totally agree. It can be done. My second favorite room to rent is within walking distance of the Huntingdon Station. Most girls have their own favorite stops. Ask and you shall recieve.

CookyJar

[Bigtime Monger]

Forgive me if I'm asking something obvious, but: having no car, how do you, um, consummate the deal?

Good question, actually. I've "consummated a deal" without having a car two times, but good luck was involved:

(1) I got off the El at the Somerset station hoping to find somebody with a nearby room and almost immediately ran into Kim, a former date. We ended up going to the adult bookstore 1/2 block north at Hart Lane, rented an upstairs video booth and she sat on me while I sat on the tiny wooden seat. The last I heard the bookstore was still on probation for its L&I violations and was not renting space to couples; it's been a few months however.

(2) I was just south of the K & A intersection, not looking for a date, and happened to bump into Jocelyn (R. I. P.). We agreed on a price and rented a room at her friend's house a few blocks away. So asking the girl if she knows of a nearby room may work.

[Milo96]

Forgive me if I'm asking something obvious, but: having no car, how do you, um, consummate the deal?

If your not from Philly. I would not walk the ave. Rent a cheap car, I'm from here and would't walk need the somerset station.

Go to FC. You will have a good SAFE time.