Massage Parlor Reports

**Justforme** · 10-08-11 03:17

Yes, and those that you mentioned were young girls of 19. 25 with little or no English? It is still happening not always in the way we hear from politicos. Most need the funds to get here and the assistance in getting the visas. There are a lot of legit agencies who help the girls get the visas, some let the girls pay off their debt on their own and a lot enslave the girls until the debt is paid.

Interview a NY CASA worker, they will tell you.

Now granted a great many of these older ones get busted and will cry they were traffic and that might have been true years before but not likely at the time they are crying. These are facts and human trafficking is not just kidnapping and bringing the girl against their will some are recruited into the fold they just do not realize the amount and time it takes to pay back what is owed.

Originally Posted by Aman Tuleev [View Original Post]

My last ATF, she is working in AMP, and she is very inteligent and very kind Chinese woman, she told me that she is CMT, and she did work in medical office for a long time, and moved to AMP after. And, I do beleive that, because she is very skilled.

My previous ATF, many of You know her well, she is korean, she did serve in USA mil, and she is also moved to AMP by her voluntary decision. She did grow here from ordinary provider to owner of place where she is working now. I'd not tell that she is very rich and spoiled, she is still driving her nissan maxima 199X and she is very modest in everything, I mean living, dressing, etc.

BTW, I think that a time, when some trafficking had place in AMPs, is gone long ago. Now it is mostly voluntary endevour.

Just 2C.

Stay Safe, and be kind with ladies,

Aman

**Aman Tuleev** · 10-07-11 20:25

Originally Posted by Justforme [View Original Post]

Romanticize as you like but the nasty part of the business still exists.

My last ATF, she is working in AMP, and she is very inteligent and very kind Chinese woman, she told me that she is CMT, and she did work in medical office for a long time, and moved to AMP after. And, I do beleive that, because she is very skilled.

My previous ATF, many of You know her well, she is korean, she did serve in USA mil, and she is also moved to AMP by her voluntary decision. She did grow here from ordinary provider to owner of place where she is working now. I'd not tell that she is very rich and spoiled, she is still driving her nissan maxima 199X and she is very modest in everything, I mean living, dressing, etc.

BTW, I think that a time, when some trafficking had place in AMPs, is gone long ago. Now it is mostly voluntary endevour.

Just 2C.

Stay Safe, and be kind with ladies,

Aman

**Anon Busi** · 10-07-11 16:05

Received some inside information about what happened on 9/30. Supposedly a monger came in and wanted FS (and not the first time this guy has done this at the Fruit) and was denied by the girls and he threatened to call police in retaliation, and I am guessing he did since FF's finest showed up on the same day. Anyway, I was told some of the girls got scared and left the Fruit for good, but nobody got arrested. I checked out the Fairfax police's weekly arrest list (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt) and that appears to be the case. Looks like a few mamasans in the area got rounded up for not having license and allowing unlicensed therapy, but no providers (at least none with Asian names) were hooked.

Anyway, I just wanted to vent on what a fucking loser this monger is. Drove away some of the best girls around here, and for what?

**Justforme** · 10-07-11 10:46

I started out years ago with the Washington Post sports section but that place has mostly dried up. I moved on the Washington City Paper which now has on-line classified as well, check the personal service ares as well. From there I went CL and you might know about why that dries up but the Thro section can still give you leads. On to BP and CV EROS, etc. The warning which you already know from reading this fucking forum, most of the ads are bullshit and the service in many places suck. The AMPs are mostly filled with dried up hads who finished their usefulness in the big thriving cities and are now here working for / with the MMS.

Hope this helds and welcome to this real world.

PS: hit a hot latina, please PM me, legally young spinners are my thing. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Blarghonk [View Original Post]

It's all good, I understand that when you transition from Japan and the International forum, you lose your post count and time on the boards, so it's expected. And I DID read the fucking forum, which gave me some good acronyms, but no real locations or even close names, which is why I asked for some clarification. But at the same time, the hesitation is also understandable, due to the nature of the game. I would never fault you guys for being overly cautious. Yes, I am still in the Air Force, but as a comm nerd, I'm about as far removed from a badge as you can possibly be. Your directions would have been helpful a few weeks ago, though, when I needed to get fingerprinted for my concealed carry permit.

**Justforme** · 10-07-11 10:31

i was not going to get into this but since it is continuing i would like to bring to light as many might not realize or are ignoring this but in some of these asian (korean / chinese) massage services, the girls come here in debt. in debt to smugglers for the cost of visas and or airfare and in some cases obtained the fake or forged passports and visas (it has gotten easier for the korean young girls as they no longer need visas to come here). how do you think those from dirt poor or their countries middle class can afford the trip here. this might not be the case for a majority of the women in this area, as they are old and past their usefulness to some of the people in charge so they strike out on their own and are now making their own money. in the good ole ny where some of these girls are fresh in country, it is true. to stay away from the political aspects you just need to consult with a ny casa who have worked with some of these girls to know about that part of the business.

romanticize as you like but the nasty part of the business still exists.

Originally Posted by bunker buster [View Original Post]

the ones that advertise on bp have a mix of girls who live in the us and those who come up to el norte on tourist visas for a few months to make a lot of easy money. most of these outfits are run by women who started out working themselves, and brought in friends of friends to expand the business.

girls who are being trafficked don't have their own cell phones, don't walk out of an apartment alone to open the back door of a secured building to discreetly let customers in, don't give out their email addresses, and don't go to dinner or ask customers to go out dancing (and i speak from experience).

the ms-13 run brothels with trafficked and / or **** girls don't advertise. even in some of those cheapo places, there are girls who come and go as they please. i also speak from experience here, although my knowledge of those kinds of places is about 5 years out of date.

**DeuceSlim** · 10-07-11 09:27

There wasn't half a page of posts about how hot the AMPs are right now just one page back (pardon the rhyme). If you're out trying to hit AMPs for extras right now you might as well go to the station yourself.

Now for a non-asshole answer; you'd be better suited hitting up BP at the moment.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster [View Original Post]

From earlier posts, Blarghonk appears to be still in, or recently out of the service. Although he asks a lot of questions for a guy without a lot of posts, let's not send him into hostile territory.

**Blarghonk** · 10-07-11 06:37

It's all good, I understand that when you transition from Japan and the International forum, you lose your post count and time on the boards, so it's expected. And I DID read the fucking forum, which gave me some good acronyms, but no real locations or even close names, which is why I asked for some clarification. But at the same time, the hesitation is also understandable, due to the nature of the game. I would never fault you guys for being overly cautious. Yes, I am still in the Air Force, but as a comm nerd, I'm about as far removed from a badge as you can possibly be. Your directions would have been helpful a few weeks ago, though, when I needed to get fingerprinted for my concealed carry permit.

**Bunker Buster** · 10-07-11 06:09

Originally Posted by DeuceSlim [View Original Post]

You know, you could always go to Red Tree at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd, or Friendly Feeling at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive.

I hear they're a real eye-opening experience. Top notch facilities, good service, they'll even provide transportation if you wish.

The staff is so great it'll be hard for you to leave.

From earlier posts, Blarghonk appears to be still in, or recently out of the service. Although he asks a lot of questions for a guy without a lot of posts, let's not send him into hostile territory.

**Bunker Buster** · 10-07-11 05:58

Originally Posted by anon busi [View Original Post]

now the latino (and / or eastern european if there are any around here) operations, they are a different story as tivoterry has suggested, and i wouldn't touch them with a 60-foot pole. those are what polaris and police should focus their energy upon if sex slave problem is what they really care about.

the ones that advertise on bp have a mix of girls who live in the us and those who come up to el norte on tourist visas for a few months to make a lot of easy money. most of these outfits are run by women who started out working themselves, and brought in friends of friends to expand the business.

girls who are being trafficked don't have their own cell phones, don't walk out of an apartment alone to open the back door of a secured building to discreetly let customers in, don't give out their email addresses, and don't go to dinner or ask customers to go out dancing (and i speak from experience).

the ms-13 run brothels with trafficked and / or **** girls don't advertise. even in some of those cheapo places, there are girls who come and go as they please. i also speak from experience here, although my knowledge of those kinds of places is about 5 years out of date.

**DeuceSlim** · 10-07-11 01:27

Originally Posted by Blarghonk [View Original Post]

Hey why'all, I'll be heading up to the Chantilly area this weekend for the gun show. I'm going to be getting a hotel room for the two day stint at the show (you can never see everything in one day, especially at a show this big) , and I'd like to find something to entertain me for the evening after the show closes. I know "NoVa" is a pretty big area, is there anything in easy driving distance of Chantilly that you would recommend? I would prefer not having to go into DC, but when push comes to shove, I won't be picky.

Thanks!

You know, you could always go to Red Tree at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd, or Friendly Feeling at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive.

I hear they're a real eye-opening experience. Top notch facilities, good service, they'll even provide transportation if you wish.

The staff is so great it'll be hard for you to leave.

**Blarghonk** · 10-06-11 19:02

Hey y'all, I'll be heading up to the Chantilly area this weekend for the gun show. I'm going to be getting a hotel room for the two day stint at the show (you can never see everything in one day, especially at a show this big) , and I'd like to find something to entertain me for the evening after the show closes. I know "NoVa" is a pretty big area, is there anything in easy driving distance of Chantilly that you would recommend? I would prefer not having to go into DC, but when push comes to shove, I won't be picky.

Thanks!

**IluvSmellyFish** · 10-05-11 23:44

I know of AMPs that have been shut down because of too much publicity. Either their own or because of these kinds of forums. Share enough info to help keep your favorite spots in business but not enough to get them shut down. Post all your reports of unsatisfying encounters for the world to see.

Originally Posted by TivoTerry [View Original Post]

This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.

**Pilot Aviator** · 10-05-11 22:05

In NoVA there are many fine establishments.

From the outsode, many of them have seen better days, but inside is warm and a good massage.

I visited a place that has been mentioned on the list recently as having "official visitors" earlier in the week.

It was true. Inspectors came. Checked liscense and safety of facility. And left.

Yes. It is a time for discretion. So, I'll not identify it further. And I'll not name the therapist (other than to say, she was "new" (to me if not to others).

TS. OK. But this is a place that usually has great TS.

Massage. Was mostly soft. But of good quality.

Everything about normal. Except, after I arrived others kept ringing the bell. They go busy, so for my first visit with the lady, she cut my time short. Also unusual for this place.

MMS gave me a big hug as I left. Thanked me for being understanding.

Standard rates and tip. I was nice to the lady (but not more generous than was appropriate). Be discrete and you be nice also.

PA

**Because I Can** · 10-05-11 21:34

Been way to long since I have been active, am visiting from Baltimore and had an ache. Cute and bubbly provider, decent conversation. Standard rates and I left happy.

Would like some info on ACC if anyone is willing to share. No car so TCCC is not an option.

**AKFourtySeven** · 10-05-11 14:28

One reason these women can keep so much is they are not paying taxes like Americans are. AMPs are a cash business and they take advantage of that fact. If you or I didn't have to pay the IRS their vig we could retire early too.