Massage Parlor Reports

[Justforme]

i was not going to get into this but since it is continuing i would like to bring to light as many might not realize or are ignoring this but in some of these asian (korean / chinese) massage services, the girls come here in debt. in debt to smugglers for the cost of visas and or airfare and in some cases obtained the fake or forged passports and visas (it has gotten easier for the korean young girls as they no longer need visas to come here). how do you think those from dirt poor or their countries middle class can afford the trip here. this might not be the case for a majority of the women in this area, as they are old and past their usefulness to some of the people in charge so they strike out on their own and are now making their own money. in the good ole ny where some of these girls are fresh in country, it is true. to stay away from the political aspects you just need to consult with a ny casa who have worked with some of these girls to know about that part of the business.

romanticize as you like but the nasty part of the business still exists.

the ones that advertise on bp have a mix of girls who live in the us and those who come up to el norte on tourist visas for a few months to make a lot of easy money. most of these outfits are run by women who started out working themselves, and brought in friends of friends to expand the business.

girls who are being trafficked don't have their own cell phones, don't walk out of an apartment alone to open the back door of a secured building to discreetly let customers in, don't give out their email addresses, and don't go to dinner or ask customers to go out dancing (and i speak from experience).

the ms-13 run brothels with trafficked and / or **** girls don't advertise. even in some of those cheapo places, there are girls who come and go as they please. i also speak from experience here, although my knowledge of those kinds of places is about 5 years out of date.

[DeuceSlim]

There wasn't half a page of posts about how hot the AMPs are right now just one page back (pardon the rhyme). If you're out trying to hit AMPs for extras right now you might as well go to the station yourself.

Now for a non-asshole answer; you'd be better suited hitting up BP at the moment.

From earlier posts, Blarghonk appears to be still in, or recently out of the service. Although he asks a lot of questions for a guy without a lot of posts, let's not send him into hostile territory.

[Blarghonk]

It's all good, I understand that when you transition from Japan and the International forum, you lose your post count and time on the boards, so it's expected. And I DID read the fucking forum, which gave me some good acronyms, but no real locations or even close names, which is why I asked for some clarification. But at the same time, the hesitation is also understandable, due to the nature of the game. I would never fault you guys for being overly cautious. Yes, I am still in the Air Force, but as a comm nerd, I'm about as far removed from a badge as you can possibly be. Your directions would have been helpful a few weeks ago, though, when I needed to get fingerprinted for my concealed carry permit.

[Bunker Buster]

You know, you could always go to Red Tree at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd, or Friendly Feeling at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive.

I hear they're a real eye-opening experience. Top notch facilities, good service, they'll even provide transportation if you wish.

The staff is so great it'll be hard for you to leave.

From earlier posts, Blarghonk appears to be still in, or recently out of the service. Although he asks a lot of questions for a guy without a lot of posts, let's not send him into hostile territory.

[Bunker Buster]

now the latino (and / or eastern european if there are any around here) operations, they are a different story as tivoterry has suggested, and i wouldn't touch them with a 60-foot pole. those are what polaris and police should focus their energy upon if sex slave problem is what they really care about.

the ones that advertise on bp have a mix of girls who live in the us and those who come up to el norte on tourist visas for a few months to make a lot of easy money. most of these outfits are run by women who started out working themselves, and brought in friends of friends to expand the business.

girls who are being trafficked don't have their own cell phones, don't walk out of an apartment alone to open the back door of a secured building to discreetly let customers in, don't give out their email addresses, and don't go to dinner or ask customers to go out dancing (and i speak from experience).

the ms-13 run brothels with trafficked and / or **** girls don't advertise. even in some of those cheapo places, there are girls who come and go as they please. i also speak from experience here, although my knowledge of those kinds of places is about 5 years out of date.

[DeuceSlim]

Hey why'all, I'll be heading up to the Chantilly area this weekend for the gun show. I'm going to be getting a hotel room for the two day stint at the show (you can never see everything in one day, especially at a show this big) , and I'd like to find something to entertain me for the evening after the show closes. I know "NoVa" is a pretty big area, is there anything in easy driving distance of Chantilly that you would recommend? I would prefer not having to go into DC, but when push comes to shove, I won't be picky.

Thanks!

You know, you could always go to Red Tree at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd, or Friendly Feeling at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive.

I hear they're a real eye-opening experience. Top notch facilities, good service, they'll even provide transportation if you wish.

The staff is so great it'll be hard for you to leave.

[Blarghonk]

Hey y'all, I'll be heading up to the Chantilly area this weekend for the gun show. I'm going to be getting a hotel room for the two day stint at the show (you can never see everything in one day, especially at a show this big) , and I'd like to find something to entertain me for the evening after the show closes. I know "NoVa" is a pretty big area, is there anything in easy driving distance of Chantilly that you would recommend? I would prefer not having to go into DC, but when push comes to shove, I won't be picky.

Thanks!

[IluvSmellyFish]

I know of AMPs that have been shut down because of too much publicity. Either their own or because of these kinds of forums. Share enough info to help keep your favorite spots in business but not enough to get them shut down. Post all your reports of unsatisfying encounters for the world to see.

This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.

[Pilot Aviator]

In NoVA there are many fine establishments.

From the outsode, many of them have seen better days, but inside is warm and a good massage.

I visited a place that has been mentioned on the list recently as having "official visitors" earlier in the week.

It was true. Inspectors came. Checked liscense and safety of facility. And left.

Yes. It is a time for discretion. So, I'll not identify it further. And I'll not name the therapist (other than to say, she was "new" (to me if not to others).

TS. OK. But this is a place that usually has great TS.

Massage. Was mostly soft. But of good quality.

Everything about normal. Except, after I arrived others kept ringing the bell. They go busy, so for my first visit with the lady, she cut my time short. Also unusual for this place.

MMS gave me a big hug as I left. Thanked me for being understanding.

Standard rates and tip. I was nice to the lady (but not more generous than was appropriate). Be discrete and you be nice also.

PA

[Because I Can]

Been way to long since I have been active, am visiting from Baltimore and had an ache. Cute and bubbly provider, decent conversation. Standard rates and I left happy.

Would like some info on ACC if anyone is willing to share. No car so TCCC is not an option.

[AKFourtySeven]

One reason these women can keep so much is they are not paying taxes like Americans are. AMPs are a cash business and they take advantage of that fact. If you or I didn't have to pay the IRS their vig we could retire early too.

[Anon Busi]

I concur with other posts on this topic so far and just wanted to add my $.02. Most AMP's hire women willing to work, and they tend to work hard for a short time and before cashing out. This is why there are always people on the board looking for his ATF, it's always possible she found greener grass, but more likely than not: she made enough money and quit the business temporarily or permenantly. I actually had a provider who wanted to be a masseuse (the legit kind) , and decided to work in AMP for a few months so she could gather enough capital to open her own business. I wouldn't be surprised there are women desperate for money turning to this, but I would be VERY VERY surprised if any of the places I have been to actually employ sex slaves like this article suggests. The providers would be Oscar-worthy actresses or liars. Because a lot of what we enjoy, is the attitude of the providers. I don't think most of us can have an enslaved, crying, upset and / or depressed provider and desire an HE from her. Case in point, if you walk into any AMP and ask for a provider who does FS, even if you are a regular, mamasan will always deny your request. If you find a providers willing and able, that's a different story because nobody forced her, but think about it, what kind of sex-slave brothel openly denies customers who want FS?

I have no doubt local operators actively recruit women who they know are in need of money. Questionable and / or possibly unethical business practice? Sure. Sex-slaving? Hardly! I think the biggest problem with Polaris' misconception about AMPs. They may read the forums, but they don't go into the AMPs as customers and don't see how the providers interact with customers and just simply don't know the whole picture.

Now the Latino (and / or Eastern European if there are any around here) operations, they are a different story as Tivoterry has suggested, and I wouldn't touch them with a 60-foot pole. Those are what Polaris and police should focus their energy upon if sex slave problem is what they really care about.

NoVa's Asian massage parlors can be fronts for human sex trafficking, authorities say.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...O6IL_blog.html

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[DeuceSlim]

This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.

Oh, I agree. I wasn't saying for people to stop contributing, just be aware that there are a lot of extra eyes around here.

[MinoTaurus]

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Just a friendly reminder that Uncle LEO can read this forum just as easily as you can. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what spots are being talked about.

I love getting details as much as anyone else but. Nobody wants to see their favorite spots closed down or their face in the Post.

This is really a red herring type of argument / effort. There is nothing LE already doesn't know already re: where and what. That they may find / read on here. I agree reasonable diligence is necessary on dealing with less established members (how many times have we seen the "new members" with one or two posts asking where they can go get "action". These guys obviously need to be ignored for obvious reasons) and also with publicly posting every last detail (PM among senior members can provide the nitty gritty). But, would urge folks NOT to discontinue contributing in fear. It just doesn't really make a difference. And I believe is ultimately a net gain for both the AMPs and us to continue.

[MinoTaurus]

.I remember seeing a girl show up in a BMW once.

Darn straight. Further. I know more than one woman personally in the business. As an example. Used to keep in touch a little (been a couple years though) with one. She is married, has adult children now, takes / took multiple nice vacations a year, has two houses paid for. A third only a small mortgage on (that was then. Probably paid for now) , nice luxury cars, children's college paid for and finished, nice cash nest egg, etc. She worked very hard (like 5-6 months out of a year) for about 8 years if I recall the time frame correctly. She hasn't worked now for a couple years as everything is paid for and her husbands modest income provides plenty for their daily needs. I, for one, admire the dedication these women have for their families. We should these types of people into our society. They are a net gain overall to our country / economy. They take nothing in terms of government services, are entirely self reliant and supportive, and overall add to our economy / society. Fat lazy self-entitled white and black American women could learn a thing or two from them on hard work and dedication to their families.