"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**F Scott** · 09-21-11 19:56

Gentlemen,

As promised, I am submitting a to-date summary, over several posts, of my SD activity in the hopes that it will provide some assistance, insights, and a couple of chuckles along the way. This is by no means going to be an exhaustive narrative of every thrust and counter-thrust. I am only commenting on the babies that were interesting or unusual in some way. Also, I number them only when they have been fucked. Coffee doesn't count.

SB3 – A gorgeous, tall (6') thin, athletic Irish amazon. What's not to like, right? After a few emails, we meet and find we have many interests in common, not the least of which is an overriding interest in sex. We part with the promise of looking at our respective calendars with an eye towards finding a mutually-workable day and time to get to it.

Well, it turns out, among her many and wide-ranging hobbies, she is involved in the 'modern burlesque movement. ' If some of you are scratching your heads now and saying to yourselves 'what the heck is that? ' let me tell you it is a hotbed of potential babies. These are young women who have a healthy obsession with sex, have no problem taking their clothes completely off, and in fact view both as a mark of power. They are not strippers, as you and I might cassify them, in any sense of the word, however. They view what they do as an art form, reviving the glory days of burlesque and such luminaries as Sally Rand and others that I was not paying attention to so can't give you their names. Whatever.

A day and time is agreed upon, and I appear, pumped full of V, my pockets bulging with raincoats, and a jaunty tune running through my head. After some small talk, during which she asked if I were LEO, which I must admit put a speed bump in my otherwise open freeway for a moment or two, we started to get focused on the task at hand. Long story short, I make her cum via oral, slap on a cover, and bang that pussy for all I'm worth. Things reaching their inevitable conclusion, I reach down to remove the condom, at which point she freaks and shouts 'did you just cum? ' I kinda thought that was the objective here, right? When I replied in the affirmative, she jumped up and started yelling at me about stds and the need for proper 'protocol'. WTF? I'm a horny old fart, not a diplomat! After a longer-than-necessary lecture on the biological, medical and whatever need for sterile procedure when having sex, I pulled up my boxers, gave little Scottie, who by now is wisely hiding, a silent apology for getting him mixed up in such a debacle, and beat a hasty retreat. The strange denouement to this episode is that two weeks later she contacts me again through my SD email to see if I'm still thinking about her. Well, yes, in fact, I am. I'm thinking how lucky I was to get out of there with soul still connected to body.

I will continue to post up relevant experiences, and encourage my fellow Daddies to do the same. Knowledge is power.

Keep up the good work,

Scott

**F Scott** · 09-21-11 11:57

Gentlemen,

Expanding a bit on Nando's observations, I have found, personally, that SA is the best producer of hot, high-quality babies in my area. I have had paid, all-access memberships on three other sites, SD4Me (2nd best, but fewer babies in my area) , Sugarsugar (nothing of real value there, and very few babies) and AM, which I agree is a sucky, total rip-off. All the contacts that came from there turned out to be shills for pay webcam sites. I believe every "sb"on that site is actually an Eastern European dude, just looking to get your credit card number. Nando, I'm surprised you even got as far as a meet with anyone.

Golf, you may be right. I wasted two hours in total yesterday checking my SD email account for a message from her, which of course did not come. She's just so hot, and the fucking is mind-blowing. I need to take a page from Lit's gamebook and fuck one or two of my other babies to get my mind off her. If that doesn't work, an intervention seems inevitable.

Keep up the good work,

Scott

**Varoom** · 09-20-11 21:19

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

* edit delete* the 4th is my SO. And is superb. But even she does not want any emotional connection beyond romantic FC activities. No Honey, sweetie, darlings at all. No texting or calling between visits. I'm finding that random sex for most people is just that (and Do-Re. Me of course) Most of you are saying." what's wrong with that?" But I do like that part without the obsession. Hookers act like that. I want a SB to act the girlfriend part in between visits.

Originally Posted by Golfcart [View Original Post]

Scott, more power to you if you're a 22 year old college student cut from the same bolt of cloth.

If not the intervention is 9:00 pm Eastern Time tomorrow.

Sounds like Nando may soon need the 12 step SD treatment since he is yearning for that emotional attachment from the SB.

This may be all well and good until the SB takes the bait; hook, line and sinker. And demands more Nando than Nando can or will deliver.

Can you say playing with fire, or at least fanning the flames a bit too much here, IMO?

GC, plan on two attendees for tomorrow night.

**Golfcart** · 09-20-11 19:21

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

(edit delete) My current SB, a 21 year old college student, is coming dangerously close to making me fall in love. Help! Keep up the good work, Scott

Scott, more power to you if you're a 22 year old college student cut from the same bolt of cloth.

If not the intervention is 9:00 pm Eastern Time tomorrow.

**Hernando** · 09-20-11 15:17

Where has everybody gone? I know there are a few Mongers working the Board but we don't hear as much anymore. Is it just that the active reporters have taken a break like Lit? Or have we overworked the system and run out of raw materiel?

Nando report :

SBSO (SB sig other) is still my #1 focus and I still see her 1 to 2 X / week. She is everything I want in a SB (almost) and my only complaint is she moved to North Carolina and is less available to me. We are still managing to keep up weekly visits though, but I am a little insecure about her ongoing availability and committment to me. We have a no ask / no tell policy about our sexual activities so I choose to think that she is only seeing me. Which is my preference. I, on the other hand, am exploring other sites and vaginas trying to assure that I get my 2-3 nuts / week. In my culture we believe in the double standard-period!

Fling- Is a renewed source lately and I have two girls primed and ready for the FC. One is on the books for this week already. Both are size 12's though, and I am not truly happy unless they are 2's to 4's. One is an athletic girl in her 30's who looks like she can work me over pretty well, and the other is a softer looking girl also 30's. But the worst fuck I have ever had has been great, so I will at least give them an opportunity to thrill me and see where to go from there. The young hot Fling girls are not interested in older guys. Or probably anyone. I think many are lurkers and get their jollies from being in print, or are shills. These two added to the lover I had earlier this year who was also Fluffy, but loved to fuck and was wild! I couldn't get interested in more than every 2-3 weeks with her but when we got together it was entertaining. We met 3 times before she got the guilts for cheating on her hubby, and bailed.

DPS (BP). Remember my discount pussy (syndrome) new 20 yr old? She gave a very servicable fuck for our first visit, but cancelled on round 2 leaving me with a serious SRH (Sperm Retention Headache ). I was pissed! We will try one more appointment and if she is not reliable I will pass her on to the board players. I cannot tolerate unreliability! We all have to schedule out the time, make our excuses, get ourselves excited, etc. So girls. Don't fuck with us! I will continue to glance at BP, but the quality and number of real girls looking for a hookup is pretty low.

AM. Sucks! I think the girls there are looking for young boys. I have had 4 tries. 3 meets, and only one taker but she is a size 20 ergo no invite to the FC. There were 2 outright rejections. A 50 yr old and a 30. Both very hot looking. The 30 I get but the 50?

SD4U. Is the gold standard. But you do run through the existing data base pretty quickly, and new sign ups in your geographical area are low. I met 4 hot girls pretty quickly and failed at two of them-1 broke stripper mother and 1 30 yr old fox. I think money and emotional detatchment were responsible for both. I wanted a regular connection and they definitely did not. The third was a 50 ish yr old decent fuck for the night but turned into a fatal attraction, and the 4th is my SO. And is superb. But even she does not want any emotional connection beyond romantic FC activities. No Honey, sweetie, darlings at all. No texting or calling between visits. I'm finding that random sex for most people is just that (and Do-Re. Me of course) Most of you are saying." what's wrong with that?" But I do like that part without the obsession. Hookers act like that. I want a SB to act the girlfriend part in between visits.

Others : Diamonddaddy, sugarsugar, a million others. Anybody have any luck with these? I have signed on but have not paid money, and you can't sample the goods until you pay. How about Adultfriendfinder, hookup, etc? Any leads?

WEll, thats it for now. Let's hear from you other Mongers. Make Lit proud!

**F Scott** · 09-20-11 14:29

Gentlemen,

Whether he is on self-imposed hiatus from this thread, or in lockdown, we owe it to the creator of this fantastic thread to keep actively posting. I will prepare a report of SB activity and personal insights and post it up shortly, but anyone else who is enjoying this fantastic aspect of the hobby is encouraged to share. My current SB, a 21 year old college student, is coming dangerously close to making me fall in love. Help!

Keep up the good work,

Scott

**CantWinLosin** · 09-15-11 21:17

I too miss his literate and often funny posts. But if you scroll back a little prior to his flameout with fotog, he said he was probably going to take a hiatus. Let's hope that's what he's doing, and that he's getting all the wet willie he dreams of.

**F Scott** · 09-15-11 16:50

I'm wondering if he somehow didn't get caught by the warden and is now in solitary. I pm'ed him a couple of weeks ago, and no reply. That minor dust-up with Fotog surely is not enough to make him abandon his brothers.

**Hernando** · 09-15-11 10:03

Come back Lit! We need you bro!

**Varoom** · 09-14-11 21:29

Originally Posted by Golfcart [View Original Post]

I miss Literal2.

+ 1 on that GC.

Lits last post was on 8/2 (post # 572) when he was very po'd at fotog over his combative posts regarding the hobby of sb / sd's.

Hopefully Lit2 is ok and has merely bannished himself, since he was so upset by this.

**Golfcart** · 09-14-11 20:50

I miss Literal2.

**Hernando** · 09-09-11 10:01

I found another source for SBs on CL. So keep that hunting ground in the loop.

I have send dozens of queries to "girls " advertising on CL Personals and 99. 9% have been web site pimps promoting bogus dating sites.

However. I got a legitimate reply from a 21 yr old and after exchanging pictures and a few texts invited her to the FC and banged her brains out. She said that she was amazed by my energy LOL and expected less of an older man. Go AARP! She was singing like a canary and wet as a river as I busted a large nut so I felt satisfied. She is a Nando class 1 desperately poor and living from hand to mouth, so she is not my ideal. But.she was shocked by the $ I gave her so she is the opposite of a GPS. I will call her a DPS (discounted Pussy syndrome) I like it that she was appreciative of my gift and effort. She will stay the night if I so desire so she is not a clock watcher. She is a 6 on looks. 9 attitude. 7 overall, so one could do a lot worse.

My college girl is still my heart's desire but is a little less available so I need to fill in where I can. We all know that frequent ejaculation is critical for prostate health so I am trying to stay healthy. If I were single I would want CG for a real girl friend and would prob get my heart broken since she probably wouldn't want me for more than I provide her.a few $s and a NSA experience.

**BigTigger** · 09-06-11 23:57

Gentlemen (I do use that term loosely) , we have liftoff. Latina HYB success with TB#10 on 2nd date. TB#10 is a winner. Tight, very wet, full of energy and lots of good noise. I think I'm hooked. All of a sudden my MILFs, do seem so attractive anymore. .

Thanks team for gently leading me down this road with your HYB tales. She even spoke some Spanish to me during sex, man that was hot!

BigTigg.

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

OK, I'm working on a HYB for the Tigger Harem. .

22. Young Latina.

Pictures are smoking! So far she seems to be game with the way I like to do things (more covering expenses with a little extra in the gas money). She has good conversation and it's not as hard as I thought it would be to talk with a 22 year old. After the storm passes through, we are planning on scheduling our first date. No sugar was discussed, but she seems like she's going to be reasonable. However, I'm not quite as willing as Scott to avoid sex talk altogether. I do approach it from the perspective of asking one or two "do you like.", then change the topic back to other small talk as to not overwhelm them with the topic.

So far so good.

I think she's TB#10 and she's definitely the Latina Fantasy I've had for some years now. I wasn't expecting 22, but in order to fulfull my SD club obligation, I'm going to give it a try. I do have a 25 year in the stable already, so I guess that counts too. But this looks like it's going to be good and much more in line with what I think of for a HYB. I'll update you all after the first date, I hope to be tasting the goodies the first date in this case.

BigTigg

**BigTigger** · 09-06-11 23:53

Very well said!

Originally Posted by Cantwinlosin [View Original Post]

AM is a ripoff, plain and simple. They employ shills to try to lure guys into their pay-by-the-minute chatrooms, post fake profiles, and generally have nil respect for their customers. I wouldn't use them on a bet.

That said, there was a period prior to the end of my marriage where I frequented several of the married-but-looking sites. What I learned was that, by and large, the women on these sites are *not* looking for sex (or not only for sex or for a SB sort of thing) , they are looking for a white knight to save them from the misery of their horrible marriage. They are seeking emotional connection that fills the vacuum. They want *love* or at least some emotional involvement. The guys that come across as just-seeking-sex are the lowest of pond scum to these women. Of course, there are a few of the NSA / FWB seekers there, but they are definitely in the minority, and on some of the sites they are often directly encouraged to go elsewhere. All of the sites that I'm familiar with try to be very careful about killing the profiles of obvious pros and admitted SBs. They know they're already on shaky ground from the social-stigma aspect of the service they provide, and don't want the sort of attention CL and BP got from the state's attorneys general on top of it.

If you're married and want something on the side, several of these site may be good options, but only if you can handle the related drama (bunny-boilers are common on these sites.) If you want a more honest and straightforward SD / SB type of thing, go elsewhere.

**CantWinLosin** · 09-06-11 22:39

Originally Posted by Hernando [View Original Post]

AM so far is again not panning out to be a good hunting ground. If I wanted to work hard at scoring I would go to Match dot com or some other random dating site. I thought this site was full of girls just wanting to play on the side. I have the age thing going against me but I am told I am attractive to the ladies (by a lot of ladies) so WTF? This MILF I saw the other night should have been thrilled to have me fill her pussy but maybe it's an ethnic thing. Once my credits run out there I'm bagging it for sure.

AM is a ripoff, plain and simple. They employ shills to try to lure guys into their pay-by-the-minute chatrooms, post fake profiles, and generally have nil respect for their customers. I wouldn't use them on a bet.

That said, there was a period prior to the end of my marriage where I frequented several of the married-but-looking sites. What I learned was that, by and large, the women on these sites are *not* looking for sex (or not only for sex or for a SB sort of thing) , they are looking for a white knight to save them from the misery of their horrible marriage. They are seeking emotional connection that fills the vacuum. They want *love* or at least some emotional involvement. The guys that come across as just-seeking-sex are the lowest of pond scum to these women. Of course, there are a few of the NSA / FWB seekers there, but they are definitely in the minority, and on some of the sites they are often directly encouraged to go elsewhere. All of the sites that I'm familiar with try to be very careful about killing the profiles of obvious pros and admitted SBs. They know they're already on shaky ground from the social-stigma aspect of the service they provide, and don't want the sort of attention CL and BP got from the state's attorneys general on top of it.

If you're married and want something on the side, several of these site may be good options, but only if you can handle the related drama (bunny-boilers are common on these sites.) If you want a more honest and straightforward SD / SB type of thing, go elsewhere.