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[Stressed Out]

Having gone missing for a day or two I just thought I'd catch up a bit and as usual throw in a couple of cents. As any LT poster / lurker knows I have certainly had my differences with KK over time but I have ALWAYS respected her for posting here. As can be seen by reading some of the responses no matter what she says she will be praised for her honesty or villified for her thoughts. It seems that most providers who do post quickly learn it is not a wise thing to do.

TBH the whole discussion of GFE sometimes gets out of hand. While some do prefer that girl who typifies the holy grail of GFE acc to the Bart scale (BBBJ, DFK, DATY ect) those ladies are few and far between. And if you take the 'acting' ladies out of the equation (yes KK is right here) it is even far fewer. To 'verbally maim' girls for not fitting this definition (yes even for a 200 donation fee) is rather useless. If you want the true GFE they are out there. Find them. Most of the BP, Tazlist and agency ladies out there are not 'GFE' even if they advertise they are. And as far as KK's girls. Hell they are so young that they probably don't even know what it is like to be a 'girlfriend' to someone. To me personally it is more important that the person I am with just gives me the attention and is 'in the room' with me so to speak. I don't care if she is faking the 'friend / lover' part cause I got to tell ya almost oll of us gents are too. I just want an honest effort, the full time and not answer the phone and make other appointments while I'm there.

As far as advertising 'out of agency' a quick check of ads and you realize that many providers who are part of an 'agency or referral service' also advertise on their own. I'm not sure there is a fundamental way to stop that. However to me the more concerning / discerning fact would be that if a girl does advertise on her own for clients her behavior would / should be looked at. If when getting clients on her own she upsells, shorts time, doublebooks, is unsafe or acts in a negative manner that shows her 'real colors' than I would have a hard time keeping her. Not only would it show negatively on my business but it would tell me that I couldn't trust her. Again just my. 02.

[Kit Kat]

Sorry Kat but your assertion of 99% of providers 'acting' when they're offering a GFE is way off base. I'd say it's closer to 60/40 and that's just my guess, as is yours. You have no proof, other than your own experiences and your girls from RT. Unless a customer is brain-dead (which I'm sure some are that have this as a 'hobby') , one can know if a girl's having a good time with her client (not acting) or she's merely going through the motions. I can tell you personally that over the years, more than a handful of girls that offered a GFE to me were clearly enjoying themselves just as much as I was. Now if you were to say you're directing a movie and your girls were 'acting' their part, then I'd say you're right but seriously, 'making progress with GFE?" I don't buy it.

As for your claim that a provider's experience with a girl will be different if they're booked thru your agency versus via her own independent ad, why would you even bother hiring a girl who when left to her own vices upsells and double-books? That's the mentality of a girl who clearly doesn't care at all about who she's screwing, pardon the pun.

I've spoken with quite a few providers, both with RT and independent or with other agencies, and I stand by my comment that it's a matter of acting. I'd say that 40% is a good estimate of those who are good enough to fool the vast majority of clients.

Xoxo Kat oxox

[Kit Kat]

I usually don't use my real name with providers. I use allies. So if you have to match the name to the number you won't be able to allow me in.

Send me an email, and we'll see if we can work something out. Assuming you'd like to see me or one of my girls of course.

All may know that it's an act but some get into their roles so deep that they may actually turn their acting into reality.

Which according to DSM-IV is a symptom of Dissociative Disorders. Maybe the best providers are the ones that are the most screwed up. The ones who can act so well, that they can even fool themselves.

Xoxo Kat oxox

[Member #4772]

http://gabriella89.escortfiles.com/gallery

Spoke with her says her rate is $500 / hr and not full GFE.

Decided to pass.

Anyone else seen her?

It seems she was NOT getting $500 like she expected. Changed her name to Ally / Allison on BP went from outcall to incall in South Boston (Not a great area to visit). Then her rate droped to $300 then $250, then $200 and the latest is $150 for one shot and your out. Still not GFE even though she tells U on the phone she is. She also runs it like a factory one after the other.

I pass no matter how cheap the rate is

[Nrlmus]

As long as you have at least two references (which judging by your posting history shouldn't be a problem) , we really wouldn't need any personal info beyond a name and number.

I have heard of providers falling for clients before, and I know that it is fairly common. Especially among those providers with some history of abuse. Although my personal experience has been more the other way around, and I've actually had to stop taking appointments from clients who were becoming too attached. A couple of them I'd even call stalkers, and were a large part of why I had to move and stopped offering incalls.

As for knowing if a provider is faking it or not, I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've actually been meaning to watch Secret Diary of a Call Girl. I loved Billie Piper in Doctor Who (HH says I'm the hottest geek he's ever met).

Xoxo Kat oxox

I usually don't use my real name with providers. I use allies. So if you have to match the name to the number you won't be able to allow me in.

By as it may, I'm sure falling for him or for her happens both ways. Obviously more clients fall for providers then the other way around just by the sheer fact that (usually) providers see more variety of clients then clients see providers. If you look at percentages however, you'd probably find it relatively even. Also clients usually have better control on the situation then do providers. If a client feels that a provider begins to act more like GF then GFE, and he doesn't welcome it. He just doesn't call that provider anymore. The providers however would usually have a harder time getting a grip on the situation before it gets out of control because to the provider the client is a source of income. Having been on both sides of the obsessive-compulsive (not with providers but.) , I know how it feels to be obsessing over someone and to have someone be obsessing over you. Usually, there isn't much fun in either case for both parties although I've seen some exceptions.

In regards to knowing when provider is faking and when not. It depends on a provider. Some should do Hollywood, others wouldn't even be able to do Bollywood (no offense to Indian musicals intended but let's be real here). When provider is a good actress, you can get a burst of positive energy that would keep you productive and useful for months. More often then not though, we are all regular people of regular talents. Providers are no different. All may know that it's an act but some get into their roles so deep that they may actually turn their acting into reality.

Anyway, I think I get your general taste in films Kit Kat. You may actually not going to like Secret Diaries or or may like it but before watching the film what you may want to do first is to go to a bookstore and read first couple of paragraphs of Diary of a London call girl by Belle de Jour, the book that miniseries apparently follows closely. The interesting aspect of a film is something that I already knew or rather suspected. Many women actually enjoy many if not most of the aspects of being a provider. In our politically correct world one usually can't say it aloud because it goes against the gospel but you know that analogy: acts like a duck, etc. LOL

[Davehter]

As for knowing if a provider is faking it or not, I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've never met Kit Kat, and I disagree with some of the posts she makes (I believe she sometimes searches for excuses, when the reality is that other agencies do a better job getting girls, for whatever reason) , but. anyone Who quotes Game of Thrones is awesome. Period. End of story.

Plus that scene was freakin' hot.

For those that haven't seen it, google around.

[IceCreamMan33]

I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've actually been meaning to watch Secret Diary of a Call Girl. I loved Billie Piper in Doctor Who (HH says I'm the hottest geek he's ever met).

Xoxo Kat oxox

Game of Thrones, can't wait for that to start up again. We geeks need entertainment besides hobbying!

[Joe Fish]

In the "real world" you have that luxury, because if you fire someone, there are 20+ people waiting to take that job. But in this world, that's simply not the case. Finding young, attractive women willing to do this is not easy.

As for GFE, it's also not nearly so simple. As much as you would all like to believe, and as much as we try to convince you otherwise, it really is just an act 99% of the time. That is the harsh reality that very few providers will admit to clients. Acting, of any kind, takes practice and dedication. Some learn it faster than others, to some it comes easy, and some need to learn to suppress their own personality and feelings in order to outwardly become what is desired. A lot of providers actually start to develop dissociative disorders as a result of their job. I know this isn't really what you all want to hear, and the majority of you probably don't care why some girls do more than others, or why some are better than others. You just care about the results. But then that's why we're paid as well as we are, because you don't need to think about our feelings.

I'm sure that was a lot more information than expected, and I apologize if my honesty offended any of you. But I hope that I've answered your question regarding "making progress with GFE". I'm sure this will probably be one of my less popular posts, but I always try to give you guys honest answers.

Xoxo Kat oxox.

I'm sure it's a lot more than you expected, and I hope I've answered your question regarding.

Sorry Kat but your assertion of 99% of providers 'acting' when they're offering a GFE is way off base. I'd say it's closer to 60/40 and that's just my guess, as is yours. You have no proof, other than your own experiences and your girls from RT. Unless a customer is brain-dead (which I'm sure some are that have this as a 'hobby') , one can know if a girl's having a good time with her client (not acting) or she's merely going through the motions. I can tell you personally that over the years, more than a handful of girls that offered a GFE to me were clearly enjoying themselves just as much as I was. Now if you were to say you're directing a movie and your girls were 'acting' their part, then I'd say you're right but seriously, 'making progress with GFE?" I don't buy it.

As for your claim that a provider's experience with a girl will be different if they're booked thru your agency versus via her own independent ad, why would you even bother hiring a girl who when left to her own vices upsells and double-books? That's the mentality of a girl who clearly doesn't care at all about who she's screwing, pardon the pun.

[Member #5013]

I've never met Kit Kat or any of her girls. But I think she deserves a +1 for her honesty in this post. Kat, since some of us actually do care about these girls, I'd love to hear what we could say or do to help them relax, be themselves and not mess up their own heads.

I've decided to avoid the hotel-based rotating aamps because I believe it supports a system that's inherently bad for many of the woman. Maybe I am naive, but I'd like to believe it's possible to participate in this hobby in a way that is not harmful to the women I pay for pleasure. Kat's posting was a reminder to me that it's sometimes not as simple as just avoiding aamps.

You think Kat deserves a +1 because of her honesty? This person is making money off of someone selling their ass and now she deserves the Nobel peace prize? I don't know her or her ladies. I don't know or care if they are GFE ladies or not. The reality is that the providers are as messed up as we are. Bottom line. I don't expect a GFE. If it happens, cool. Otherwise, oh well.

You want a real GFE. Get a girlfriend. I want a provider to be kind, respectful and at least act like I'm in there. You guys sound pathetic crying to a pimp about why her ladies aren't hugging you afterwards.

[Member #5013]

I've never met Kit Kat or any of her girls. But I think she deserves a +1 for her honesty in this post. Kat, since some of us actually do care about these girls, I'd love to hear what we could say or do to help them relax, be themselves and not mess up their own heads.

I've decided to avoid the hotel-based rotating aamps because I believe it supports a system that's inherently bad for many of the woman. Maybe I am naive, but I'd like to believe it's possible to participate in this hobby in a way that is not harmful to the women I pay for pleasure. Kat's posting was a reminder to me that it's sometimes not as simple as just avoiding aamps.

You think Kat deserves a +1 because of her honesty? This person is making money off of someone selling their ass and now she deserves the Nobel peace prize? I don't know her or her ladies. I don't know or care if they are GFE ladies or not. The reality is that the providers are as messed up as we are. Bottom line. I don't expect a GFE. If it happens, cool. Otherwise, oh well.

You want a real GFE. Get a girlfriend. I want a provider to be kind, respectful and at least act like I'm in there. You guys sound pathetic crying to a pimp about why her ladies aren't hugging you afterwards.

[Mmaddmann]

In the "real world" you have that luxury, because if you fire someone, there are 20+ people waiting to take that job. But in this world, that's simply not the case. Finding young, attractive women willing to do this is not easy.

As for GFE, it's also not nearly so simple. As much as you would all like to believe, and as much as we try to convince you otherwise, it really is just an act 99% of the time. That is the harsh reality that very few providers will admit to clients. Acting, of any kind, takes practice and dedication. Some learn it faster than others, to some it comes easy, and some need to learn to suppress their own personality and feelings in order to outwardly become what is desired. A lot of providers actually start to develop dissociative disorders as a result of their job. I know this isn't really what you all want to hear, and the majority of you probably don't care why some girls do more than others, or why some are better than others. You just care about the results. But then that's why we're paid as well as we are, because you don't need to think about our feelings.

I'm sure that was a lot more information than expected, and I apologize if my honesty offended any of you. But I hope that I've answered your question regarding "making progress with GFE". I'm sure this will probably be one of my less popular posts, but I always try to give you guys honest answers.

Xoxo Kat oxox.

I'm sure it's a lot more than you expected, and I hope I've answered your question regarding.

I've never met Kit Kat or any of her girls. But I think she deserves a +1 for her honesty in this post. Kat, since some of us actually do care about these girls, I'd love to hear what we could say or do to help them relax, be themselves and not mess up their own heads.

I've decided to avoid the hotel-based rotating aamps because I believe it supports a system that's inherently bad for many of the woman. Maybe I am naive, but I'd like to believe it's possible to participate in this hobby in a way that is not harmful to the women I pay for pleasure. Kat's posting was a reminder to me that it's sometimes not as simple as just avoiding aamps.

[Mmaddmann]

Not true Bat. While I agree the majority of pics are fake, some girls that advertise on BP are in fact hott. The problem though is the upselling that many of these 'hott' girls engage in. The truly 'hott' girls are in this for the money versus maintaining a list of repeat customers. Sad, but true. BTW, this alleged pic of the Revere lady isn't 'hott' to me. Boobs are disgustingly too big. Just my 2 cents.

Agreed: Alexa (brunette who requests no reviews) and Angel in Revere are two examples of very attractive women who advertise primary on BP.

[Kit Kat]

That was a very good response Kit Kat. You definitely know how to bring it home. LOL. Sorry I can't sign up for your service. I keep this discreet and revealing my personal information is as much of a no-no for me as it is for you to reveal the name behind "Kit Kat".

One thing I'd like to add to what you said though, and it is from our (or just my) perspective that you as a provider may not experience. You'll be surprised how many providers out there are looking for the relationship with one of us. All we have to do is just let our guard down a bit and good 25% (rough estimate of course) would fall for us like an apple from a tree. That's not why do what we do though so for 99. 9% of us it's probably not an option. You usually feel that sentiment only when you meet them for the first time. There are certain signs, words and body language which are just unmistakable. If you ever had girl-friend. You just know it. In this business where you often are treated solely as "providers", just a bit of a real warmth towards provider often breaks her guard easily.

By the way, you usually find out about how genuine her responses were during your second meeting. If after not seeing her for month, she begins to act very professional, chances are she was expecting your phone call much earlier, and probably for reasons other then business. GFE or not GFE. Most of us would feel when it's a "job", unless of course he is either full of it or just wants to lie to himself in order to feel "loved".

Actually I have a question for you. I've just seen a film, a miniseries, called Secret Diary of a Call Girl. It's closely based on a diary of some British call girl and it did seem rather realistic to me. If you haven't seen it, you probably should at least give it a shot. If you have, I know I'd be curious to hear your take on it.

As long as you have at least two references (which judging by your posting history shouldn't be a problem) , we really wouldn't need any personal info beyond a name and number.

I have heard of providers falling for clients before, and I know that it is fairly common. Especially among those providers with some history of abuse. Although my personal experience has been more the other way around, and I've actually had to stop taking appointments from clients who were becoming too attached. A couple of them I'd even call stalkers, and were a large part of why I had to move and stopped offering incalls.

As for knowing if a provider is faking it or not, I'll respond with a quote from Game of Thrones."You're not fooling them, they just payed you. They know what you are, they know it's all just an act. Your job is to make them forget what they know." In my opinion, being a good provider is just as much about being a good actress as it is about any physical techniques.

I've actually been meaning to watch Secret Diary of a Call Girl. I loved Billie Piper in Doctor Who (HH says I'm the hottest geek he's ever met).

Xoxo Kat oxox

[Nrlmus]

In the "real world" you have that luxury, because if you fire someone, there are 20+ people waiting to take that job. But in this world, that's simply not the case. Finding young, attractive women willing to do this is not easy.

As for GFE, it's also not nearly so simple. As much as you would all like to believe, and as much as we try to convince you otherwise, it really is just an act 99% of the time. That is the harsh reality that very few providers will admit to clients. Acting, of any kind, takes practice and dedication. Some learn it faster than others, to some it comes easy, and some need to learn to suppress their own personality and feelings in order to outwardly become what is desired. A lot of providers actually start to develop dissociative disorders as a result of their job. I know this isn't really what you all want to hear, and the majority of you probably don't care why some girls do more than others, or why some are better than others. You just care about the results. But then that's why we're paid as well as we are, because you don't need to think about our feelings.

I'm sure that was a lot more information than expected, and I apologize if my honesty offended any of you. But I hope that I've answered your question regarding "making progress with GFE". I'm sure this will probably be one of my less popular posts, but I always try to give you guys honest answers.

Xoxo Kat oxox.

I'm sure it's a lot more than you expected, and I hope I've answered your question regarding.

That was a very good response Kit Kat. You definitely know how to bring it home. LOL. Sorry I can't sign up for your service. I keep this discreet and revealing my personal information is as much of a no-no for me as it is for you to reveal the name behind "Kit Kat".

One thing I'd like to add to what you said though, and it is from our (or just my) perspective that you as a provider may not experience. You'll be surprised how many providers out there are looking for the relationship with one of us. All we have to do is just let our guard down a bit and good 25% (rough estimate of course) would fall for us like an apple from a tree. That's not why do what we do though so for 99. 9% of us it's probably not an option. You usually feel that sentiment only when you meet them for the first time. There are certain signs, words and body language which are just unmistakable. If you ever had girl-friend. You just know it. In this business where you often are treated solely as "providers", just a bit of a real warmth towards provider often breaks her guard easily.

By the way, you usually find out about how genuine her responses were during your second meeting. If after not seeing her for month, she begins to act very professional, chances are she was expecting your phone call much earlier, and probably for reasons other then business. GFE or not GFE. Most of us would feel when it's a "job", unless of course he is either full of it or just wants to lie to himself in order to feel "loved".

Actually I have a question for you. I've just seen a film, a miniseries, called Secret Diary of a Call Girl. It's closely based on a diary of some British call girl and it did seem rather realistic to me. If you haven't seen it, you probably should at least give it a shot. If you have, I know I'd be curious to hear your take on it.

[Pnil99]

Had a 30 min session with her once. Little chit chat for a minute or so and then straight into action. Good session. But only worth 30 mins or so. While she does not rush; she does talk much either when asked a little about her background. She had asked me get my own supplies and room and sheets looked used by other (s). She said. Yes. I share the hotel room with my other friends. In your case. Probably the room did not free as planned. Yes- She is second generation indeed.

I had arranged to meet her Fri middle of the day. Got to the neighborhood, called & dropped to VM. Called her again near the appointed hour, dropped to VM again. Hung around but the callback didn't come, gave up and went golfing instead. Got knocked off the course after a hole and a half by T-storms. Bad luck Friday with balls & holes.

Sent her email Fri night asking what happened. No answer yet. Guessing she must be 2nd generation, no trace of Indian accent.