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  1. #5453

    Papaya. Suffering from success? And. Top Therapy?

    So I had an itch that needed scratching, so I made my way down to Papaya (aka a dozen other names these days, as evidenced by all the Backpage ads).

    It took a few extra beats than normal for the MMS to open the door and I was about to walk away. I do not like standing idle at the door. But she opened it and ushered me in.

    On the way to the room, she asks me how long. I tell her one hour. She said something about 45 minutes and I said no. 1 hour. She didn't say anything else, so I pressed her (by this time we were in the room) and asked why she said 45 minutes. She said never mind. 1 hour.

    I "get comfortable" and while I'm sitting there for 5, then 10 minutes, I'm starting to think she meant it was going to be a 45-minute wait. I again start thinking about leaving, but the door opens and a lady walks in, with a heavy sigh as if she just rushed down to see me.

    Off to the shower. From the beginning, it was completely rushed, as if there was a queue of 10 guys waiting and I was holding them up. Short strokes, just enough soap to call it a table shower. She tossed buckets of water on me like she was trying to douse a forest fire. The drying off was nice and a bit playful.

    Back to the room. Rushed massage. Short strokes, everything moving in double-time. Not relaxing at all. About 10 minutes into that, a little soft-touch and then she asks me to flip over way too soon. She starts negotiating with me and then says you gave $80, I'll give you $20 back. What? I thought she was talking about the tip, but then I realized she meant she wanted me done in 30 minutes.

    I told her no, that I told MMS I wanted an hour and if it was going to be less, she should've been honest with me. I started to get off the table, but she pushed me back down, covered me with a towel and went to talk to MMS. As soon as she left, I got up and began to get dressed. I was putting on my shoes as she came back in and was very unhappy to see me leaving. She was quite insistent and said the MMS said 1 hour was okay. (Like I was going to say "oh, okay then").

    I went to the door and I asked her if she wanted to check and see if it was clear. She didn't move toward the door, so I opened it, looked out, then made my way to the door. She was trailing me, asking me to stay. I went into the stairwell and she actually came into the doorway, hoping I'd come back in.

    So, I left after about 20 min of rushed service with no completion and out my. 8. I didn't leave any tip, of course.

    This is not typical of my experience with Papaya (I've been there many times). Once, I had gone and it was very busy. They let me know and I came back later, greeted with a bunch of smiles. The ladies are usually some of the best in the area, IMHO. Now, there's a MMS I don't trust and I have to wonder if I'll get the same sub-standard treatment next time.

    In hind sight, I should've left when I suspected MMS was trying to say something about 45 minutes to begin with.

    Please, Mamasans, respect our time and our money. Just deal with us honestly and you'll have repeat customers for a very long time. Are there really enough one-time clients out there for you to treat us this way? A little courtesy goes a long way (in both directions, yes?).

    ----------------------------------------------

    BTW, while chuckling over the various Papaya ads on Backpage, I saw one for Top Therapy, almost the same address, but off by one digit. I saw the signs, it's just around the side of the same building as Papaya. I was now too short on cash and out of time to start another 1 hour session, but I'm interested in trying out. Has anyone else been to Top yet?

  2. #5452
    Wow, seems like everyone is striking out lately.

  3. #5451

    Spa Moments

    On my way home from work Friday, I stopped by at Spa Castle. There are a few new ladies there. My luck of the draw today was Julie who says she has been there for less than a week. I had the usual good table shower followed by a few minutes in the sauna. Back in the room, she gave an decent massage although not as good as Candy, Tina, or Bebe, all of whom I have seen there previously. However, I was quite satisfied with it. Julie has a very shy personality and at first, I thought it was part of the routine but at the end of the session, I believe her shyness to be genuine. Either that or she is a very good actor. I would see her again. On the way out, I ran into Bebe who said Hello, and introduced my to another new lady named Lucky. So far I like the consistancy of this establishment.

    After an emergency dental appointment this morning, I remembered of my favorites who works only Mondays and Tuesdays at a location convenient to my dentist's office. I called and found out that she was available as she had just arrived. Another outstanding session which prepared me for the work week.

  4. #5450

    Massage Pro in Sterling

    Happened in today, got a ok looking therapist. Did not leave happy.

    Total was. 70.

    PC out

  5. #5449
    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    For those who feel the tipping subject has been beaten to death, don't feel compelled to read on. To my mind, it's helpful to have a full and free airing of the issues.

    PD: Thanks for the input. Mongering skills are acquired through experience, and I'm the first to admit I'm still acquiring mine. Last week I had an AMP experience which, while limited to NoVa finish, was very satisfying. (See my report #5280.) I tipped. 6, and the provider accepted it without grousing.

    This week I had a much less attractive provider, and it became increasingly clear as the session went on that she was going through the motions, just doing it for the money. (When I asked her if she liked her job, she just said, it pays well.) I particularly didn't want to give her a good tip after the 'covering' experience I described, she seemed to find servicing me distasteful.

    For $.6, condos provide guaranteed FS, freedom from upsell and a better attitude. If you tip. 8 for disrobe + HJ, you are paying the same for a lot less service (unless the massage is important to you, to me it's not).

    The AMP experience varies enormously depending on the luck of the draw and interpersonal chemistry. I'm sure plenty of you have developed relationships over time where AMP providers give FS after they come to know you and trust you, and you don't talk about it here. (Indeed that happened to me, it was a great pleasure but I stopped seeing her for other reasons.) Perhaps it's best to develop such an 'ATF, ' or just accept the cloak and dagger and transient nature of the condos.

    Happy hunting
    That's it I quit. Ban me. I don't care. I feel dirty reading this guy's reports. Paying for sex is one thing, but because a girl won't smile while this pig slobbers over her body he cries about it. Christ! This place caters to the lowest of the low, the scum of the earth. I'm out of here. Pathetic loser!

  6. #5448

    Tipping

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Dagon  [View Original Post]
    DATY & disrobed? That's an automatic. 8 tip right there. And she did it with NO cash up front? No wonder she was pissed.
    For those who feel the tipping subject has been beaten to death, don't feel compelled to read on. To my mind, it's helpful to have a full and free airing of the issues.

    PD: Thanks for the input. Mongering skills are acquired through experience, and I'm the first to admit I'm still acquiring mine. Last week I had an AMP experience which, while limited to NoVa finish, was very satisfying. (See my report #5280.) I tipped. 6, and the provider accepted it without grousing.

    This week I had a much less attractive provider, and it became increasingly clear as the session went on that she was going through the motions, just doing it for the money. (When I asked her if she liked her job, she just said, it pays well.) I particularly didn't want to give her a good tip after the 'covering' experience I described, she seemed to find servicing me distasteful.

    For $.6, condos provide guaranteed FS, freedom from upsell and a better attitude. If you tip. 8 for disrobe + HJ, you are paying the same for a lot less service (unless the massage is important to you, to me it's not).

    The AMP experience varies enormously depending on the luck of the draw and interpersonal chemistry. I'm sure plenty of you have developed relationships over time where AMP providers give FS after they come to know you and trust you, and you don't talk about it here. (Indeed that happened to me, it was a great pleasure but I stopped seeing her for other reasons.) Perhaps it's best to develop such an 'ATF, ' or just accept the cloak and dagger and transient nature of the condos.

    Happy hunting.

  7. #5447
    DATY & disrobed? That's an automatic. 8 tip right there. And she did it with NO cash up front? No wonder she was pissed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    Arrived about 11 am, greeted by cheerful MMS 'Lee. '.8 for the house. Drew provider 'Joon, ' K-girl, said she was 28, nothing special in looks and body. Said she has been in USA for 15 years, has lived in New York. Said she has been doing this work for 2 years. When I asked what she did before, she said, 'No comment. '

    Uninspired TS and massage, allowed a bit of roaming. After a while, I asked if she would like to disrobe, got the dreaded 'How much you pay? ' She made it clear, 'No sex, only ' (shaking motion with hand). I thought about skipping it, said I would rather decide how much to tip at the end. She reluctantly accepted, disrobed, allowed me to massage her and DATY, but she was standoffish, her heart wasn't in it. Allowed me to straddle her and finish, but covered the end tightly with her other hand to keep my stuff off her as much as possible. I was not happy with that.

    I was not pleased with her attitude or services. I offered her two Andrews as a tip. She became highly offended, refused to take it. 'I do best for you! ' I said I was not happy, but had trouble explaining it to her. I held out the tip and asked, 'Do you want it or not? ' She just stared at me. After a few seconds I put it back in my pocket and she got madder, said something about my 'fucking attitude. ' I said we could discuss it with the manager, she said 'This is my place! ' and ushered me out angrily. This was easily the most unpleasant experience I have had in my (brief) mongering career.

  8. #5446

    Similar Experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    Arrived about 11 am, greeted by cheerful MMS 'Lee. '.8 for the house. Drew provider 'Joon, ' K-girl, said she was 28, nothing special in looks and body. Said she has been in USA for 15 years, has lived in New York. Said she has been doing this work for 2 years. When I asked what she did before, she said, 'No comment. '
    I had a similar experience this weekend in my first foray back into the AMP scene in a while. Her attitude seemed like "let's get this over with" until counting the tip. And then the haggle over it.

    Unfortunate as another AMP close to home gets crossed off my list.

  9. #5445

    I got it too

    Quote Originally Posted by BlkPrinceVa  [View Original Post]
    Did anyone else get a request for an interview about AMP? This person says she's a reporter for a progressive radio shation is DC. I have no interest in this, but was curious if anyone else got this request.
    I offered to give some general background info, especially on the myth that the women in the spas open to Americans are trafficked or in any way victims.

  10. #5444
    Ambidextrous, sorry about it. Why don't You ask Joy?

    Stay safe,

    Aman

  11. #5443

    Top Therapy: Disastrous

    Arrived about 11 am, greeted by cheerful MMS 'Lee. '.8 for the house. Drew provider 'Joon, ' K-girl, said she was 28, nothing special in looks and body. Said she has been in USA for 15 years, has lived in New York. Said she has been doing this work for 2 years. When I asked what she did before, she said, 'No comment. '

    Uninspired TS and massage, allowed a bit of roaming. After a while, I asked if she would like to disrobe, got the dreaded 'How much you pay? ' She made it clear, 'No sex, only ' (shaking motion with hand). I thought about skipping it, said I would rather decide how much to tip at the end. She reluctantly accepted, disrobed, allowed me to massage her and DATY, but she was standoffish, her heart wasn't in it. Allowed me to straddle her and finish, but covered the end tightly with her other hand to keep my stuff off her as much as possible. I was not happy with that.

    I was not pleased with her attitude or services. I offered her two Andrews as a tip. She became highly offended, refused to take it. 'I do best for you! ' I said I was not happy, but had trouble explaining it to her. I held out the tip and asked, 'Do you want it or not? ' She just stared at me. After a few seconds I put it back in my pocket and she got madder, said something about my 'fucking attitude. ' I said we could discuss it with the manager, she said 'This is my place! ' and ushered me out angrily. This was easily the most unpleasant experience I have had in my (brief) mongering career.

  12. #5442

    MY ATF gave me a call.

    A couple weeks ago. Come to find out she was texting me all along. I have texting blocked on my cell. Glad she decided to make a phone call instead of texting. Made my day. .

    Lovejugs

  13. #5441

    Eva

    It's been a long time since I sampled the local water holes. I got tires of the same old thing. You find a good spot, with a good girl, and use it til the familiarity becomes a hindrance rather than a incentive. So there I was heading home from work. Eva was calling my name. The fear of PWCLE causing me to feel daring and immortal. I entered to find a middle aged girl in her upper 30s, possibly even 40. Her name was Michelle. The TS was mediocre to a point of regret. I figured may as well stay, I'm here. Then the massage. It was the best massage I have ever had. She put me to sleep multiple times. The strokes down my back were applied with perfect pressure. With every stroke down my back followed by her slender soft arms stroking back up. Not a movement was wasted without touch. The finale was evenly enjoying. She exposed her washboard stomach, and then the cotton came off completely. I was astonished as her see size companions were perfectly centered and pointing anywhere but to the floor. I massaged them as if they were a long lost lover leaving forever. The finish was deep, slow, and intense. It's been a long time since I was so excited to be able to paint the ceiling on a release. I am fighting the urge to return quickly so that I do not become that familiar face, but I may not be able to hold back long. So there it is, a little hope in the trade rekindled.

  14. #5440

    Getting too close with your ATF

    For about 6 to 9 months now, I've been seeing a regular AMP girl. Every time I go, the staff knows I want her, and because I'm both a nice man and a generous man, she's happy every time I show up. Over time, she's become a bit emotionally attached, and asks me for personal and sometimes professional advice. She likes me, she's not married, and I think she started having visions of what it would be like if she saw me outside the AMP.

    Last month, after the TS, she spread eagled on the massage table and asked me to fuck her for all she's worth. It was bareback, and because Junior Banker Boy was doing all the thinking at that moment, I didn't hesitate to take her up on her offer. Needless to say, I regret that decision. The situation was made worse when she begged me to go home with her that evening. That was a non-starter for me.

    Afterwards, I wasn't happy about the experience, and wished it hadn't happened. I stayed away from the AMP for a few weeks, and I returned last night. I saw my provider again, and things were very awkward. She apologized for her behavior, but things felt very stilted. The TS was average. She tried hard to give me a good massage to make up for the shame she was feeling. But the happy ending was a struggle. She didn't know where the line was, and my efforts to make her comfortable and get back to our previous happy relationship didn't work.

    In short, I believe I have seen my ATF for the last time.

    Best regards,

    Banker Boy

  15. #5439

    Just Passing through.

    Had the opportunity to visit Papya near TC. Saw Sarah, very nice HJ, combined with DATY and some very LFK and cuddling. Nice TS and light teasing massage too to start with. Overall, she was cute, sexy. 7/10 or so body. While I'm used to FS up north in NYC, it was well worth. 70 for the house +.4 tip. An enjoyable 45 minutes. I'll repeat when back in town.

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